Malaysia Airlines plane shot down 7/17/14. (WARNING: GRAPHIC)
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so, if the twin towers 'blew out' the structure, how and why did the structure COLLAPSE ON ITS OWN FOUNDATION at the rate of gravity?
shouldn't it have fallen in one direction or another... and NOT COLLAPSED? there is a difference btw falling and collapsing ya know.
or are you saying that the structure weakened in a way such that all the right beams, etc. collapsed PERFECTLY and caused it to fall in perfect unison (like a demolition) with NO SWAYING, LEANING, NOTHING?
The media is acting like the US never shot down a passenger plane before. Also, if Ukrainian rebels shot it down how does that put the blame on russia? Is the US taking the blame or all the killings groups it sponsors do? Al Qaida, the Taliban, the rebels in Syria, the killing of Luamba, etc
Man you got me thinking over here. who can prove that the plane left amsterdam that day.
Did they ever conclude that the other Malaysia flight was shot down? Maybe, the first one was suppose to be found and linked to terrorism but since it never was found it was considered a error. So, they decided to take one down over land.
Iran Air Flight 655
Main article: Iran Air Flight 655
A missile departs the forward launcher of Vincennes during a 1987 exercise. The forward launcher was also used in the downing of Iran Air 655.
Iran Air Flight 655 (IR655) was a commercial flight operated by Iran Air that flew from Bandar Abbas, Iran to Dubai, UAE. On July 3, 1988, towards the end of the Iran-Iraq War, the aircraft flying IR655 was shot down by the U.S. Navy Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes when it fired a SM-2MR surface-to-air missile. The airplane was destroyed between Bandar Abbas and Dubai, killing all 290 passengers and crew. USS Vincennes was in Iranian waters at the time of the attack, and IR655, an Airbus A300, was misidentified as an Iranian F-14.[21]
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Again, simply keeping an open mind. I'm seasoned enough without a short term memory, to put nothing past humankind and their insatiable desire of destruction.
Regarding aircraft speeds, there are plenty of independent research by pilots and even a former NASA director. Their response and research is quite interesting. I wouldn't be so quick to call the pilots for truth a conspiracy site. What the world was initially fed, is still a conspiracy. There were also studies by the NTSB, FAA and a professor from MIT.
If you prefer all your news from mainstream sources...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/speed-likely-factor-in-wtc-collapse-25-02-2002/
Because no aircraft hit the Pentagon.....controlled blast made to look like something massive...they cant move wreckage that fast and undetected or documented...not in this country..
I ain't no expert or nothing...
but the pictures of the pentagon make no sense at all.
What happened to the wings, engines and tail?
but the pictures of the pentagon make no sense at all.
What happened to the wings, engines and tail?
I ain't no expert or nothing...
but the pictures of the pentagon make no sense at all.
What happened to the wings, engines and tail?
They all magically disappeared fam
so, if the twin towers 'blew out' the structure, how and why did the structure COLLAPSE ON ITS OWN FOUNDATION at the rate of gravity?
shouldn't it have fallen in one direction or another... and NOT COLLAPSED? there is a difference btw falling and collapsing ya know.
or are you saying that the structure weakened in a way such that all the right beams, etc. collapsed PERFECTLY and caused it to fall in perfect unison (like a demolition) with NO SWAYING, LEANING, NOTHING?
Tower 7 didn't fall like that. You got fooled by the "Troofers" with that animated gif/cut video.
They omit the penthouse collapse in this gif.
They leave out the penthouse and inner core collapse. The eastern penthouse on the top and the inner core structure fell first. Then, the outer shell fell inwards. The right side of the outer shell swayed inwards as it fell.
I ain't no expert or nothing...
but the pictures of the pentagon make no sense at all.
What happened to the wings, engines and tail?
Inertia. The plane debris kept traveling inside of the Pentagon the equivalent of two city blocks. Most of the tail and wings disintegrated on impact. It's not like the tail and wings are solid. Here's a few photos of the engines inside of the Pentagon.
It may not be worth repeating again, but my uncle was driving his cab and saw the plane hit the Pentagon. A few hundred people saw it too. He also saw the small whitish/grey plane flying by the Pentagon after the crash.
I used to say those conspiracy theorist were nut jobs but now I just say they are dumbasses. You cannot fake some things. This was clearly a plane that was obliterated once it struck blast proof concrete walls of the pentagon.
ok NSA what ever u say
Shit is crazy in this world we live in, R.I.P to those on that plane. With that being said Obama will be to blame.....
Those cacs and coons will find a way...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...on-for-allowing-plane-attack?detail=facebook#
lol
is the solution always "give them weapons"?
or sell them?
man someone always getting rich from war.
so, if the twin towers 'blew out' the structure, how and why did the structure COLLAPSE ON ITS OWN FOUNDATION at the rate of gravity?
shouldn't it have fallen in one direction or another... and NOT COLLAPSED? there is a difference btw falling and collapsing ya know.
or are you saying that the structure weakened in a way such that all the right beams, etc. collapsed PERFECTLY and caused it to fall in perfect unison (like a demolition) with NO SWAYING, LEANING, NOTHING?
None of the towers nor building 7 had a "perfect implosion"- none of them collapsed in on their foundations. even though it looked like a controlled implosion -7 really progressively collapsed south towards the towers- when I saw it -to me it was obvious that the building was going to give way.
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You're in on it!!!! You wer looking at a hologram of NYC it's where they tested the hologram used at cochella to make PAC. Looked real huh?
If you believe that America would never harm its own citizens, then no one should waste time debating you. Id rather you question your faith in the USA.
so what about when news reporters all said they had people in the blding looking at the damage and because of all the damage there "gonna pull it" for safety pre-caution...if u watch the live news that day it was a bunch of bloopers that came out b4 they were able to "fix" the truth...kinda like roswell when the guy said it was mysterious metal pieces and ufo parts but the next day the truth was"fixed" and it was a weather balloon
..by the way i was in a room with over 40 tvs inside of it on all the local news channels and they all were telling the blooper truth but the next day all info was changed..hard to lie when ur on the scene but easy when u wait 24hrs..all the news channels was telling everybody how they bout to pull blding 7
IMO reporters were saying a lot of inaccurate shit that day -bombs in the battery tunnel, explosives in vans at one of the bridges... etc.so what about when news reporters all said they had people in the blding looking at the damage and because of all the damage there "gonna pull it" for safety pre-caution...if u watch the live news that day it was a bunch of bloopers that came out b4 they were able to "fix" the truth...kinda like roswell when the guy said it was mysterious metal pieces and ufo parts but the next day the truth was"fixed" and it was a weather balloon
I think everyone downtown was freaking out at some level...
I saw Building 7 around 2p - on the North side the lower floors looked like swiss cheese and there were multiple fires inside and I knew the south side had to be much worse.
Shit there were fires burning as far east as Broadway and Vesey and approaching B'way and Fulton. I was expecting the Marriott to go too - I think I even heard a false report that night that it had collapsed.
hell yeah there is a conspiracy - there are too many "coincidences" - but I saw building 7 and knew it was coming down, and I wasn't expecting the NY Telephone switch building to survive either.
Americans are so stupid. The media is overplaying this crash to demonize the Russians. No investigation has been done yet they present their wild speculations like it has substance. Ukrainian rebels likely shot down the plane, but how is that Putin's fault ? Is every person that Isis kills Americas fault?
Smh
Tower 7 didn't fall like that. You got fooled by the "Troofers" with that animated gif/cut video.
They omit the penthouse collapse in this gif.
They leave out the penthouse and inner core collapse. The eastern penthouse on the top and the inner core structure fell first. Then, the outer shell fell inwards. The right side of the outer shell swayed inwards as it fell.
Inertia. The plane debris kept traveling inside of the Pentagon the equivalent of two city blocks. Most of the tail and wings disintegrated on impact. It's not like the tail and wings are solid. Here's a few photos of the engines inside of the Pentagon.
It may not be worth repeating again, but my uncle was driving his cab and saw the plane hit the Pentagon. A few hundred people saw it too. He also saw the small whitish/grey plane flying by the Pentagon after the crash.
I could maybe accept that for the fuselage. But where did the wings impact the pentagon?
We are talking about a 727 with engines on the wings.
Tower 7 didn't fall like that. You got fooled by the "Troofers" with that animated gif/cut video.
They omit the penthouse collapse in this gif.
They leave out the penthouse and inner core collapse. The eastern penthouse on the top and the inner core structure fell first. Then, the outer shell fell inwards. The right side of the outer shell swayed inwards as it fell.
Inertia. The plane debris kept traveling inside of the Pentagon the equivalent of two city blocks. Most of the tail and wings disintegrated on impact. It's not like the tail and wings are solid. Here's a few photos of the engines inside of the Pentagon.
Then what made this exit hole at the outer ring?
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