Lovie Smith&his white wife Mary-Anne.

FJP said:
His roster would have won 2 years before that, if Tony knew how to form any kind of an offense, thats why he was ousted in Tampa. Jon Gruden put in a decent offensive plan and they won the Bowl....dont make it seem like wasnt shit changed and Gruden just stole a title.


i disagree if the glazer's had given him another year he would have won it all.
gruden won with his roster. look what happened since that roster was broken up and gruden ain't won shit since.
 
Maddbaron said:
so what your saying is...him not being with a white woman growing up fueled him to purposely go after a white woman exclusively for intents of dating/marriage? well then he is a sellout b/c he refused to give a sista a change and had his mind set on a cracka.
thats what it sounds like to me...

and that "who makes u happy makes u happy" shit is a cop out u control your happiness u pick he CHOSE a cracka and made himself believe she was best for him.
shit just don't happen like a magic act or a movie, everything in life is choice using feelings and "u don't choose who u love" is a cop out.

How the fuck do you know he was "fueled" or purposely went after a white woman? You dont know that. How do you know he doesnt like black women? Did you talk to him? Do you know Lovie? Thats like saying because a man has a black wife then he only likes black women or because you have a pair Nikes you cant have ever wore Reeboks. So let me get this straight by your knowledge even if he loved his girl he was supposed to give a black girl a chance just for the sake of being black? Man kill that super revolution shit.


And what I said dude probably never thought about fucking with a white girl he probably met her and ended up loving her. You cant tell me you've never met a girl that you didnt intend to fuck with and ended up getting involved with. I aint saying marry but even taking it past hi and bye. So let me get this straight so if it was a black woman on his arm and she wasnt shit then it would be cool? As opposed to having a white woman that makes him happy..man grow up. So basically you are saying a white woman cant make a black man as happy as a black woman? Please tell me you're kidding. There isnt a magic drug in black women man that makes a black man happier, if a woman makes you happy she makes you happy.
 
Maddbaron said:
i disagree if the glazer's had given him another year he would have won it all.
gruden won with his roster. look what happened since that roster was broken up and gruden ain't won shit since.

Man the NFL is a league with a very short window of oppourtunity. Even the best teams have what 5 years max? Tony shoulda won or atleast went in 00-02. He couldnt come up with any kind of offense and they failed. All Gruden did was put in an offense. After that season they lost free agents my man and plus their window was closed. Come on man, if you cant see that through your black on black shades I dont know what to tell you. Any football fan that actually pays attention to the game knows that Tampa didnt win 3 years in a row because Tony couldnt put together a decent offense. The reasons Indys offense is so good is because Tony has really nothing to do with it.
 
It must be love with Lovie and his wife...cause she ain't fine at all.
Therefore,who am I to knock who he loves.
 
Maddbaron said:
thats what i dont understand if u come from the deep south weren't u exposed to MORE racism? and should u not want white women?

but whatever i'm rootin for tony the bullshit that man has been thru since the buc's won after he left with his roster i hope he blows the bears out just to shut the critics up.and b/c he lost his son. I'm all for tony winning he deserves it more.


I'm a yank that lived in the south for almost 20 years and when you compare, whites in the north and the west are MUCH more racist than those whites in the south. MUCH MORE. By MILES. I've lived in both places and northern and these western crackers got some serious hate about em.

-VG
 
Funny, the so-called "black militants" on here are the same ones that refuse to ever get married at all.

Not even to our black queens in order to properly raise a black family

Yes, "BLACK POWER" indeed.... :rolleyes: :lol:
 
XXXplosive said:
Funny, the so-called "black militants" on here are the same ones that refuse to ever get married at all.

Not even to our black queens in order to properly raise a black family

Yes, "BLACK POWER" indeed.... :rolleyes: :lol:

Or even better, marry white themselves. :lol:

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XXXplosive said:
Funny, the so-called "black militants" on here are the same ones that refuse to ever get married at all.

Not even to our black queens in order to properly raise a black family

Yes, "BLACK POWER" indeed.... :rolleyes: :lol:

i'm 26 not looking to get married and want my career where it needs to be before i even consider marriage if I do. how hard is that to understand? and how does not wanting to be married remove black pride and speaking on black issues? does marriage make a man a better man? is marriage required for EVERY fucking person in the world? stop with the bullshit man. marriage doesn't make any man better or worse than the next single man.
 
9X3inch said:
Or even better, marry white themselves. :lol:

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so allow me to get this right.

if you love your race, and only your race and don't like white women then u must secretly like white women? is that what your implying? just to be clear. so a black man cannot like/love black women exclusively?
 
this board is funny, if u don't like white women then something must be wrong with u and u must be like the dude from don't be a menace blah blah blah the wayon's brother movie. it seems a lot of folks r saying and taking shots at people for not liking white women.

interesting mindsets.
 
Maddbaron said:
i'm 26 not looking to get married and want my career where it needs to be before i even consider marriage if I do. how hard is that to understand? and how does not wanting to be married remove black pride and speaking on black issues? does marriage make a man a better man? is marriage required for EVERY fucking person in the world? stop with the bullshit man. marriage doesn't make any man better or worse than the next single man.

Nah bruh don't try to change things now.
You've said before that you will NEVER get married and can have a family without being married.
Please tell me how you can properly raise a family without being married?
That's the number one problem with black families today.
Cats like you are scared of commitment but aren't scared of getting sistas pregnant.
You think being a weekend dad and paying child support will make up for not being there all the time like a real man should be for his children?

Look at all the great black men throughout our history and almost all of them are or have been married (including the two brothas in your avatar)

You're right, marriage isn't right for every person in the world.

My point is don't criticize another man for choosing to do something you wouldn't even have the guts to do.
 
XXXplosive said:
Nah bruh don't try to change things now.
You've said before that you will NEVER get married and can have a family without being married.
Please tell me how you can properly raise a family without being married?
That's the number one problem with black families today.
Cats like you are scared of commitment but aren't scared of getting sistas pregnant.
You think being a weekend dad and paying child support will make up for not being there all the time like a real man should be for his children?

Look at all the great black men throughout our history and almost all of them are or have been married (including the two brothas in your avatar)

You're right, marriage isn't right for every person in the world.

My point is don't criticize another man for choosing to do something you wouldn't even have the guts to do.

actually i have changed my point of view a few times before this thread. i believe right now i am selfish and won't make a good husband yeah i did say i would never get married but i am willing to give a shot if the right and i mean right female comes along whereas i dont have to settle if i have to settle then i'll stay single. i have said that a few times or something similar over the past several months.

and it has nothing to do with guts, if it aint right it aint right courage has nothing to do with it.

and yeah my avatar it was a proud moment in black history does it have anything to with marriage? no it has to do with me being proud of what the brother accomplished. don't mix and mingle two things that are nothing alike to prove a point.

also i have no kids and no one ever been pregnant as result of me say that to the next dude. i have no kids for the same reason i aint serious/married with a sista i am not career wise where i want to be and i am selfish as fuck. my career comes b4 all else for me.

and i know plenty of folks raised where their parents weren't married or even together who had great black families marriage doesnt make a family never has never will.

and where did i knock lovie? i was rooting for tony before hand and i thought his wife was white too til i was corrected. been pretty constant i want tony to win.
from what i have seen from this board and from cats i went to college with texas brothers date white/marry white women a lot its their culture and upbringing so its whatever.
was i shocked lovie was married to a white woman? no something about him told me he was.
just b/c he chose to marry a white woman doesn't make him anymore of a man then the next he got in where he fit in and chose to settle, his choice good for him.
he was raised with different priorities in life.
i did question his motivations though being that he was raised from what others r saying in the deep south where racism was stronger so it isnt clear to me why he went for a white woman so to me he went for one just b/c he finally could if that is the reason i dont respect him if he didnt and as some say "he magically fell in love" then ok good for him.
i questioned him but never knocked him.
 
AFKAQ said:
I'm not gonna villify the brutha. I haven't walked in his shoes to know what he's gone thru with women. If the white lady makes him happy-whatever. I'm just greatful that Lovie got my team into the Super Bowl. Now just win it.

I wonder if at Super Bowl parties held at black homes,if the topic of his wife comes up some sistas might say"Well,fuck him,I'm rooting for the Colts then."

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that nigga reminds me of jack johnson the first black heavyweight.He also had a great affinity for white women...im still rooting for the bears . :yes: unless ya'll know white women have been the companions to many oppressed people ...bruce lee, president of guyana, barack obama's pops....not all but some white women have been great companions to other races and black men too so im not going to knock them all if you find the right one she can make a great companion...some of them are genuinely loyal.
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damn i forgot about jack johnson his love of white women ruined his career worse than another boxer ever could and stopped him from being best of all time.
 
Most Coaches/Athletes in professional sports have non-black wives, this is not news. As a matter of fact, I'm more surprised when I see a sports figure with a black woman.
 
Maddbaron said:
actually i have changed my point of view a few times before this thread. i believe right now i am selfish and won't make a good husband yeah i did say i would never get married but i am willing to give a shot if the right and i mean right female comes along whereas i dont have to settle if i have to settle then i'll stay single. i have said that a few times or something similar over the past several months.

and it has nothing to do with guts, if it aint right it aint right courage has nothing to do with it.

and yeah my avatar it was a proud moment in black history does it have anything to with marriage? no it has to do with me being proud of what the brother accomplished. don't mix and mingle two things that are nothing alike to prove a point.

also i have no kids and no one ever been pregnant as result of me say that to the next dude. i have no kids for the same reason i aint serious/married with a sista i am not career wise where i want to be and i am selfish as fuck. my career comes b4 all else for me.

and i know plenty of folks raised where their parents weren't married or even together who had great black families marriage doesnt make a family never has never will.

and where did i knock lovie? i was rooting for tony before hand and i thought his wife was white too til i was corrected. been pretty constant i want tony to win.
from what i have seen from this board and from cats i went to college with texas brothers date white/marry white women a lot its their culture and upbringing so its whatever.
was i shocked lovie was married to a white woman? no something about him told me he was.
just b/c he chose to marry a white woman doesn't make him anymore of a man then the next he got in where he fit in and chose to settle, his choice good for him.
he was raised with different priorities in life.
i did question his motivations though being that he was raised from what others r saying in the deep south where racism was stronger so it isnt clear to me why he went for a white woman so to me he went for one just b/c he finally could if that is the reason i dont respect him if he didnt and as some say "he magically fell in love" then ok good for him.
i questioned him but never knocked him.

Just because he chose to marry a white woman also doesn't make him any LESS of a man

I doubt you also question every black man that marries a black woman, right?

If he's genuinely happy and raising a family rather than just creating more baby mommas, what's there to question?
 
smiffnwessun said:
that nigga reminds me of jack johnson the first black heavyweight.He also had a great affinity for white women...im still rooting for the bears . :yes: unless ya'll know white women have been the companions to many oppressed people ...bruce lee, president of guyana, barack obama's pops....not all but some white women have been great companions to other races and black men too so im not going to knock them all if you find the right one she can make a great companion...some of them are genuinely loyal.
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Man, that brotha looks like he could be his twin :lol:
 
Maddbaron said:
damn i forgot about jack johnson his love of white women ruined his career worse than another boxer ever could and stopped him from being best of all time.


the gotdayumm tree he ran into on the backroads of north carolina is what ruined him but as far as white women goes he refused to follow the conscripts of the time and because of his maverick attitude he came under the scrutiny of the ferociously racist ruling class who erroneously applied the mann act to have him jailed....i'm just sad that he never had any children.
In my eyes he was in fact the best of all time. :yes: :yes:
 
where have i ever supported creating baby mommas? thats a ghetto word for women who u happened to get pregnant and dont give a fuck about.

why would i question a black man marrying a black woman?

as for 1st point thats debateable if he is like julian bond or armstrong williams or deception leader then yes it does.
 
where have i ever supported creating baby mommas? thats a ghetto word for women who u happened to get pregnant and dont give a fuck about.

What do you think having kids without getting married creates?
Of course I'm assuming you do want to have kids someday.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

why would i question a black man marrying a black woman?

So why would you question a black man marrying a non-black woman?


as for 1st point thats debateable if he is like julian bond or armstrong williams or deception leader then yes it does.

There are plenty of "pro-black" brothas that are or have been with white women such as Charles Barkley.
Malcolm X also comes to mind.
Is he any less of a man because he dated white women in the past?
 
charles barkely is ignorant as fuck his mentality makes him less than a man to me and he is like the basketball version of tom jackson so yeah he is less of a man.

malcolm ended up with a black woman did he not? saw the light i believe.

i dont follow but i do know jordans love of white women ruined his life after basketball with the allegations.

i do know that bond's love of white women is the reason the feds are after his ass b/c she snitched on him.

i do know OJ's love of white women made him get involved in some bullshit...

not saying all black women are great they aren't but not all white women are either but it seems the mentality nowadays is if your black u must be involved with a white woman and from what i have seen those who are don't support black issues. julian bond hold weight at the naacp and when a serious black issue comes up involving racism he is silent as fuck. same with the guy in charge of the united nations.
someone alluded to the T.O. thing Dungy said it was wrong while lovie said shit.
once they commit to a white woman they give up part of their blackness to keep shit politically correct and dont get involved as much so they don't risk losing their piece of ass at home.

i'd love to see or read about a black man who married a white woman who is very active in black issues and deals with the racism that is popping up without holding back.

so in that regard yes brothers who fall for while women are less black men to me since they remove themselves from black issues to keep white girl happy.
 
wrong. Barry Bonds first wife was white, his second wife was/is black I think, and his mistress on the second wife I am pretty sure is black
 
Stink Money said:
wrong. Barry Bonds first wife was white, his second wife was/is black I think, and his mistress on the second wife I am pretty sure is black

No, his current wife is Asian (I think)
She sure ain't black

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godofwine said:
Truth. People marry who they marry. It is 2007 and people are still on this blacks can only marry blacks shit. Piss off (I had to quote my folks in the UK on this one)


Shit like this makes no sense to me whatsoever. Kinda like I wont vote for o'bama because I cant identify with him. Im like HUH? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
All The Poeple That Think Lovie Is "sell Out" Well Be Going To Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do You Really Think God Want People Like You In The Kingdom Of Heaven! Y'all Make Me Sick Wit This Shit!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I think its dumb to think less of someone because they are married to someone of a different race. That isnt what marriage is about. It's not like they got famous, and THEN married a white woman. But even then, if that's when they found love and companionship, then fuck it
 
riqmoney said:
All The Poeple That Think Lovie Is "sell Out" Well Be Going To Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do You Really Think God Want People Like You In The Kingdom Of Heaven! Y'all Make Me Sick Wit This Shit!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel you on that dawg but you are on the porn board. How are you gonna talk about the Kingdom of Heaven and then go download the newest episode of Bootytalk?
 
LordSinister said:
I'm tired of these booty faced Ninjas. :smh: :smh:

That's what makes it hard for me to respect dudes who go out of their way to make themselves appealing to white. Then again I might be a hypocrite because sometimes I shave my face clean. lol When I went to UNC, so many cornball black dudes try to my themselves appealing to white folks. Brothas on campus were so corny. White people never respects those type of dudes. I tell you this Vince Carter and Jamison use to beat them white broads down on campus, but you notice they kick it with black chics now.

I have no beef with interracial marriage or dating because I dated a few white shorties, but I never understood the philosophy of you dating black chics all your life then once you make it you kick it with only white chics.
 
Chase Bannon said:
That's what makes it hard for me to respect dudes who go out of their way to make themselves appealing to white. Then again I might be a hypocrite because sometimes I shave my face clean. lol When I went to UNC, so many cornball black dudes try to my themselves appealing to white folks. Brothas on campus were so corny. White people never respects those type of dudes. I tell you this Vince Carter and Jamison use to beat them white broads down on campus, but you notice they kick it with black chics now.

I have no beef with interracial marriage or dating because I dated a few white shorties, but I never understood the philosophy of you dating black chics all your life then once you make it you kick it with only white chics.

For the record, Vince Carter is divorcing his wife.
And yes there were some corny-ass brothas on campus but there were also plenty of real-ass brothas as well.
You would find the same thing at any other college, including HBCU's.

What about a white chick that was with a brotha BEFORE he made it or became famous?
How do you know they weren't chasing after sistas but maybe they weren't trying to holla back because he was broke.
Every situation is different.
I personally don't even find most white women to be that attractive.
I think black women and other races of women are the most beautiful women on this planet.
But I can't judge another brotha based off of who he chooses to date or marry.
 
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