why choose ? they both had a role.
Louis Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson
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Marcus Mosiah Garvey is my write in candidate. Dead or alive.
When Farrakhan was younger..his ego may have gotten in his way. But stil in all White agents were the main ones responsible for the death of Malcolm X....not members of the NOI.
To this day I truly believe Jesse Jackson was a FBI informant that was thrown into MLK's life just so MLK's agenda could be ruined.
I was never a supporter of Jesse, nor am I complete supporter of the Minister. But the agenda that the Minister pushes when it pertains to the betterment of Black folks makes 100000000 x's more sense than a lot of the things that i hear from Jesse (like a Black & Brown coalition).
To this day I truly believe Jesse Jackson was a FBI informant that was thrown into MLK's life just so MLK's agenda could be ruined.
I was never a supporter of Jesse, nor am I complete supporter of the Minister. But the agenda that the Minister pushes when it pertains to the betterment of Black folks makes 100000000 x's more sense than a lot of the things that i hear from Jesse (like a Black & Brown coalition).
Elijah Muhammad message was real. A lot of people never took a closer look at it until Farrakhan rebuilt the "THE NATION OF ISLAM". The message was very important to a black man that has not sold his soul to a white reality. And can get control of himself and take the world back from Satan (white people).
The same people that killed Malcolm actually killed Elijah. They could not afford to shoot Elijah down like they did Malcolm. But when they killed Malcolm they killed 2 birds with one stone. They caused division between blacks. Anyone with common sense knows that Elijah was about money. And that money was what was making blacks do for themselves instead of continuing to build on a white reality. Only a fool would have had Malcolm killed.
America and the world are about to see some very strange events begin to unfold soon. Right now nationalist thought is still being choked out while white supremacy is having all the growth and development. That is about to change. Soon I will finally get the energy and strength to make some real growth.
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The same people that killed Malcolm actually killed Elijah. They could not afford to shoot Elijah down like they did Malcolm. But when they killed Malcolm they killed 2 birds with one stone. They caused division between blacks. Anyone with common sense knows that Elijah was about money. And that money was what was making blacks do for themselves instead of continuing to build on a white reality. Only a fool would have had Malcolm killed.
America and the world are about to see some very strange events begin to unfold soon. Right now nationalist thought is still being choked out while white supremacy is having all the growth and development. That is about to change. Soon I will finally get the energy and strength to make some real growth.
http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
This is a stupid ass question to entertain.
Life and the fate of black people isn't like voting for the next American Idol.
Our community need 5,000 dentists, 5,000 engineers, 5,000 accountants, 5,000 elected officials, 5,000 teachers, 5,000 welders, 5,000 farmers, 5,000 everything.
We need 4,998 more of their kind - Rev. Jesse + Min. Farrakhan.
Life and the fate of black people isn't like voting for the next American Idol.
Our community need 5,000 dentists, 5,000 engineers, 5,000 accountants, 5,000 elected officials, 5,000 teachers, 5,000 welders, 5,000 farmers, 5,000 everything.
We need 4,998 more of their kind - Rev. Jesse + Min. Farrakhan.
Any group or organization with that status by law has to be all inclusive and can't give the impression of having any kind of political affiliations. Hence Jessie and his rainbow coalition and Farrakhan and his affiliation with Scientology, allowing whites in the noi, his new stand on Jews, teaching a lot more from the bible and his last million man march which resembled jessies rainbow coalition. When the government gets involved you have to toe the line.
The term "black leadership" and 501(c)3 don't mix.
I'm not a Jackson fan like that but seriously?
Fuck Jesse,Jackass and Farrahcon
Add this trash to your booklist as well.
The book is pretty much the same according to the title.Steve Cokely (Rest in Power) exposed Jesse Jackass...and recommended everyone at a Harlem lecture to read itI'm not a Jackson fan like that but seriously?
Add this trash to your booklist as well.
Scam..... How the white leadership exploits white America!!!!!!
There's an ongoing class action suit going on in ref to this as we speakScam..... How the white leadership exploits white America!!!!!!
It's crazy how we are supposed to accept whom ever is pranced out in front of us as a black leader without question. It's as if we give them a messianic persona and they are deemed off limits. This is why we have continuously been led astray and controled by gate keepers and con artists posing as black leaders and revolutionaries. History is filled with examples and we always find out years after they are dead.
Whenever someone stands up and states the obvious (that we should look deeper into these people) they are always put down and made to be the bad guy. One thing I know for sure is that if the dominant society knights them a black leader it's always a trick to it. Always.
Whenever someone stands up and states the obvious (that we should look deeper into these people) they are always put down and made to be the bad guy. One thing I know for sure is that if the dominant society knights them a black leader it's always a trick to it. Always.
List some black leadership that has led black folks astray.
Am I to understand that you think we are in this position by happenstance? The fact that we are in the exact same position on the majority of issues in our community as we where during the reconstruction era didn't happen by coincidence.
Jackson pushed for harsher drug laws instead of pushing to stop the government from bringing drugs in. This helped push generations of black men into the prison system and ushered in the prison industrial complex.
MLK as well intended his work helped destroy our economic base. In fact he himself realized that his direction may not have been the direction we needed. In his final days he wrote a letter to Harry Belafonte stating that he feared he integrated his people into a burning building.
Sharpton has been on record as working with the Fed's.
These are just a few.
Mr Jackson is a law maker?
Mr King dictated economics?
Mr Sharpton works with the FEDs?
Your position on Rev Jackson and Dr King are so exaggerated. Men with microphones. They have never constructed policies. White folks don't take orders from the Black Church leadership. Dr King has been death for nearly years and you are blaming him for shit that predates his conception. He led people in the direction that wished to travel. He represented the face and voice of most Black people in that day and time.
These men were victims of the same system that has been in place since 1619. They are not saviors of our people. They are not generals with an army. They are not finance ministers. They don't have magical powers.
These individuals are focal points. They are the opposite of a bunch of impulsive folks giving their opinions on social media.
FARRAKHAN
And they are also human not above reproach so stop acting like we are not allowed to revisit their accomplishments, goals and lack there of. Logic dictates that we reevaluate past achievements and weigh them against the current temperature and be honest about it. Some things will hurt to accept in hindsight but it's a pill we must swallow. We can't afford to keep repeating the same mistakes because our enemy is cunning.
What are talking about? Be specific.
I clearly stated that King, Jackson and Sharpton were just men doing their thing within of the limitations of their day and time.
You keep speaking negatively about these men.
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Dr King didn't lead the Black Panther Party or the Weathermen. He had his own affiliation. He affiliation isn't disappointed in their results. His affiliation wasn't about your 21st century agenda. They didn't have the means to work a future agenda yet you want to measure them based on today.
Dr King (as in Team Dr. King) didn't help destroy our Black economic base.
He grew it - exponentially.
He opened up our learning potential and employment potential. Before Dr King, 99% of black people were field workers and laborers who were stuck riding the back of the bus back to their segregated ghettos.
My parents lived life before the rise of (Team) Dr. King and since the rise of Dr King and none of them want the pre Dr King days back.
The Pre-King Black economy was like this for most of us.
What are talking about? Be specific.
I clearly stated that King, Jackson and Sharpton were just men doing their thing within of the limitations of their day and time.
You keep speaking negatively about these men.
.
Dr King didn't lead the Black Panther Party or the Weathermen. He had his own affiliation. He affiliation isn't disappointed in their results. His affiliation wasn't about your 21st century agenda. They didn't have the means to work a future agenda yet you want to measure them based on today.
Dr King (as in Team Dr. King) didn't help destroy our Black economic base.
He grew it - exponentially.
He opened up our learning potential and employment potential. Before Dr King, 99% of black people were field workers and laborers who were stuck riding the back of the bus back to their segregated ghettos.
My parents lived life before the rise of (Team) Dr. King and since the rise of Dr King and none of them want the pre Dr King days back.
The Pre-King Black economy was like this for most of us.
Currently 99% are still working on the modern day plantation. We have the same wealth we had during the beginning of reconstruction. The wealth is still in the same hands. The gains we did make after reconstruction was lost when we integrated our wealth and not our body's.
Speaking of which we still live in segregated ghettos. Most of which was created by government intervention and redlining.
Now they don't make you ride the back of the bus instead they refuse to put bus stops in rural areas where they moved the jobs. So now you can't even make it to the plantation if you ain't got a ride.
Originally Kings movement was about enforcing separate but equal and to put an end tp lynching. Once outsiders got a hold of his agenda that's when integration and the rest came about. Which is why he said he was integrating us into a burning building. The only thing truly integrated is your dollar. The majority of cities is still segregated.
Call it what you want. It doesn't change those facts.
Who was the most important black leader of the last 30 years?
Louis Farrakhan Muhammad, Sr. (born Louis Eugene Wolcott; May 11, 1933) is the leader of the African-American religious movement the Nation of Islam (NOI). He served as the minister of major mosques in Boston and Harlem, and was appointed by the longtime NOI leader, Elijah Muhammad, before his death in 1975, as the National Representative of the Nation of Islam. After Warith Deen Muhammad disbanded the NOI and started the orthodox Islamic group American Society of Muslims, Farrakhan started rebuilding the NOI. In 1981 he revived the name Nation of Islam for his organization, previously known as Final Call, regaining many of the Nation of Islam's National properties including the NOI National Headquarters Mosque Maryam, reopening over 130 NOI mosques in America and the world.
Jesse Louis Jackson, Sr. (born October 8, 1941) is an African-American civil rights activist and Baptist minister. He was a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1984 and 1988 and served as shadow senator for the District of Columbia from 1991 to 1997. He was the founder of both entities that merged to form Rainbow/PUSH. Representative Jesse Jackson, Jr. is his eldest son. In an AP-AOL "Black Voices" poll in February 2006, Jackson was voted "the most important black leader".
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The answer is easy for me to be Jesse Jackson.
Not knocking Farrakhan, but Jesse tried to encompass all Black folks. Jesse came from a church slant,
but he did not further the cause of social justice by growing his church, and his church could have been bigger
than all the megachurches put together.
Farrakhan's power is rooted in the NOI and has he ever complimented a Black person?
Farrakhan says some underhanded things about various Black people including those
in audience, always to a satisfactory chuckle.
Add to that, I believe, that the Yacub story and claim that only WF Muhammad being god were a couple of non-provable
plants injected into the NOI to poison it so that Blacks would not join in and leave those xian churches.
Not knocking Farrakhan, but Jesse tried to encompass all Black folks. Jesse came from a church slant,
but he did not further the cause of social justice by growing his church, and his church could have been bigger
than all the megachurches put together.
Farrakhan's power is rooted in the NOI and has he ever complimented a Black person?
Farrakhan says some underhanded things about various Black people including those
in audience, always to a satisfactory chuckle.
Add to that, I believe, that the Yacub story and claim that only WF Muhammad being god were a couple of non-provable
plants injected into the NOI to poison it so that Blacks would not join in and leave those xian churches.
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