Letters from Microsoft: An Employee Tosses His Zune

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Letters from Microsoft: An Employee Tosses His Zune

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Windows Enthusiasts like to paint me as biased against the Zune because I didn’t get a free gift basket from Microsoft and then turn around with a CNET-style gushing review of the me-too player that manages to consistently slink a year or two behind Apple. But what does one of Microsoft’s own developers think of the device? Here’s an independent report from a person deep inside the Zune maker.
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The developer, whom I’ll call “Mike Rosoft,” volunteered the following experience with the Zune in an email: “[some months after being hired] … I did the dutiful thing and bought a Zune 120 gig, thinking it would be better than the 80g iPod I had before. I saw some plusses and minuses to the software interface and the potential of the social and Zune pass aspects (good ideas, typically flawed execution) but I didn’t give much thought to the actual audio quality.

”I figured I’m using a lossless codec, it’ll be true CD quality, I have some nice Creative Aurvana earbuds, it should sound pretty good. But I have pretty sensitive hearing, and over a long time I noticed that I wasn’t enjoying the music as much when I played it on the Zune. It didn’t sound as good as I expected it to, and I was starting to think it was a function of stress and depression, but that wasn’t it.

“Because after I got the iPhone I spent a day transcoding all the music from my collection that I expected to want to listen to from the original Apple lossless files to 256 Kbps AAC (standard iTunes Plus preset). It was only slightly involved. I’d right-click a bunch of songs, convert to AAC, and then with smart playlists and sorting on various columns, I’d drag the converted ones to my iMac with file sharing, import them to iTunes (copying them to the right directories and stripping the ” 1“ added to the name to avoid a collision with the original lossless version with the same extension) and finally deleting the transcoded version from the original PC. I lost my play counts and star ratings, but I’m fine with that.

Cutting Corners on Quality.

”After syncing the first batch and plugging in the same Aurvana earbuds, I almost instantly realized that i’d been robbed, by the Zune, because the AAC version sounded amazingly good, obviously better than the uncompressed version on the Zune. So now my whole music collection takes up like 25 gigs of flash and sounds better than I had ever expected.

“I believe they either fucked up the DAC or the analog circuit pathways on the Zune and lost like 10dB or more of signal to noise. I think the stereo channels might be leaking into each other also. It just sounded muddy and I’d been using it all this time, not just with the earbuds but in my commute to work every day in the car.

”BTW, I think I could perhaps tell the difference between AAC and lossless after very carefully listening to each version, but the differences would be so subtle as to be meaningless in terms of enjoyability. Whatever they screwed up in the Zune to make the lossless version sound so flat and dead was much worse.

“Music is a very important part of my life and Microsoft robbed me of a portion of that enjoyment through typical corner cutting and short-sightedness. I’ve decided I’m going to find a nice grassy space this weekend and get my roommate to film me smashing up the Zune with a giant pipe wrench, a la the scene from Office Space where they smash up the printer. Should be a YouTube hit, especially with the story of why I’m doing it.

The Great Exodus of Microsoft’s Talent.

”Did I mention to you that after the layoffs, people have been resigning right and left? Always the same story, going to do something else, not sure what, but something else. Two weeks notice, see ya. I’ll be doing the same tomorrow morning along with a friend who’s quitting for the same reasons. In fact, he’s been frustrated longer than me, probably because I was blaming myself and not the real problem of the toxic work environment.

“We can’t figure out: how can you make a great product with shifty tools, and how can you make great, or even acceptable, tools on top of a shifty platform? You can’t ratchet up the quality, certainly not when you haven’t been allotted sufficient time to do so. You can only try to prevent the quality of everything from dropping further into mediocrity.”

Rosoft hasn’t yet posted his video or his story, but when he does I’ll link to it.

Up next: if you think Microsoft’s cutting corners on the Zune in the manner of the Xbox 360 is the worst example of the company’s failing to learn from its previous mistakes, get ready for a big surprise. Because Microsoft is preparing to replicate one of the biggest, most uncontroversial blunders of the recent decade in its misguided efforts to imitate Apple.

Guess what iceberg Balmer’s delirious company is going to aim towards for its next Titanic disaster! (Hint: it’s a far larger mistake than the whole ‘two years late iPod touch clone + Zune HD software problem’)
 
Is microsoft going to kill off dell and HP and make their own pc's?
 
Dude do you fucking work for Apple or Google? You posting all this biased bullshit about Microsoft products, when you know that they by the most innovative software maker in the world. Calm down...we are not buying into your bullshit!:smh:
 
Dude do you fucking work for Apple or Google? You posting all this biased bullshit about Microsoft products, when you know that they by the most innovative software maker in the world. Calm down...we are not buying into your bullshit!:smh:

i have to :lol: at this
 
Dude do you fucking work for Apple or Google? You posting all this biased bullshit about Microsoft products, when you know that they by the most innovative software maker in the world. Calm down...we are not buying into your bullshit!:smh:

:lol::lol: Nerds bout to whip some ass in here!
 
Dude do you fucking work for Apple or Google? You posting all this biased bullshit about Microsoft products, when you know that they by the most innovative software maker in the world. Calm down...we are not buying into your bullshit!:smh:

:lol:

Actually Divine works for M$ and is pro Apple.



South Bronx, South SOUTH Bronxxx (not related to this reply)
 
interesting article but that doesn't change the fact that Itunes still sucks big hairy balls and i can't wait to buy my Zune HD and use my shitty ass 30gb ipod as a door stop or a paperweight fuck ipods i'm done
 
will this (zune hd) be able take memory cards? cant find anything mentioning it
 
Both Zune and Ipod look cool to me as far as interface.

But I dont know how people can use MP3 players that use strange propriatory formats.

You got to go through Itunes or Zune center to convert your songs ?

Fuck that!
 
Both Zune and Ipod look cool to me as far as interface.

But I dont know how people can use MP3 players that use strange propriatory formats.

You got to go through Itunes or Zune center to convert your songs ?

Fuck that!

Both Ipods and Zunes play regular mp3 i don't follow what your beef is :confused::confused::confused:
 
Both Zune and Ipod look cool to me as far as interface.

But I dont know how people can use MP3 players that use strange propriatory formats.

You got to go through Itunes or Zune center to convert your songs ?

Fuck that!

Huh?....I've got 17gigs of music on my iphone & have yet to convert to another format other than mp3.....What you talkin bout mayne?:confused:
 
Dude do you fucking work for Apple or Google? You posting all this biased bullshit about Microsoft products, when you know that they by the most innovative software maker in the world. Calm down...we are not buying into your bullshit!:smh:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
C'mon, y'all been boyz since 3rd grade...

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I'd say a Zune phone.

Close, but Windows mobile. 6.5 is due in October but its meant for low end devices and still isn't completely suitable for a touch interface (it mostly gets by zooming the interface in key situations) and even that interface won't be ready until February, and Windows mobile 7 will be out the end of 2010.

so by the time Microsoft is ready to compete Apple will probably release another iPhone, Palm will have come out with several WebOS devices and Google will have release Donut, Eclair and Flan updates to Android. See why no one should take Microsoft seriously in the phone game?

And as for the guy, maybe he just had a fucked up zune, or the people who always dog the ipod sound is just trolling because its Apple but I haven't heard a lot of people complain about the Zune audio. The HD isn't bad, but the HD part is a gimmick (no one encodes in baseline for HD) and I'm done with music/video only devices as well. They really should have just made a phone out of it.
 
I'm still getting a zune HD

Me too. There is some shit I dont like about MS but they do make good software. Anyone who has used any MS programming tools can atest to that.

Visual Studio 2010 beta is very nice. Cant wait to give my MSDN subscription a workout :yes:
 
Huh?....I've got 17gigs of music on my iphone & have yet to convert to another format other than mp3.....What you talkin bout mayne?:confused:

yeah i'm ignoring the Apple F(ear) U(ncertainty) d(oubt) everybody who has used it so far is saying the Zune HD is the shit. And sonicly it is stillmurdering the ipod and it isn't attached to that god awful itunes :angry:

iTunes really does suck. There is nothing like a drag and drop MP3 player, which the Zune should have been. Thanks for the Zune theme. :lol:
 
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