Lets talk porn on a porn board...

i can't tell when the last time i paid for cable yet it generates billions, can't tell you when the last time i paid for a movie yet it generates billions.. u can find all movies and tv shows, and sports, pay-per-view for free on the internet yet all those things are billion dollar bizzness.. juss because "you or i" don't do it , it's obvious somebody is and people will continue to do so
Noted.
 
Let me explain, being that I produced, but I am from another era, called DVD. The money that used to be in porn is gone to many factors like the economy of those that can't afford the luxuries like paying for it and add to the fact that now porn is free like nothing on the web.

As much as I don't like Buffy the Body, because of dealings with her and her manager Dawn once, but she dropped some knowledge on the changing of times in a vid in the past.
She used to cake off just being in a magazine with a bikini on. She got appearances nationwide just for showing a bikini and hosting. But fast forward to where we are today with the advent of Twitter, InstaGram and the worst being Tumblr where you can see all that for free and more. Add in the porn sites like XHamster and XVideos and whatever else.

Yes there is still money there for porn producers, but the least bought form of porn which is Black or Ebony suffered the first. When the porn industry moved to paying talent with checks and taking taxes, it killed it for a lot of the true hustling chicks in black porn. They had no reason to do it but to shoot a few scenes, get popular and do features or shows nationally. Chick's I know like Mone' still gets flown all over and she hasn't done a flick in how long.

You can't pinpoint one exact factor, but there are many, and Black porn suffered first. Next is Lesbo, Gay and all the other genre's of porn below straight boy/girl scenes.

The big boys still can float in the game but many have cut many corners. I was one of the first black companies distributed by Playboy, so to know from the top, as big as a company as Jenna Jameson was under them, and I used to deal with their Pres of Playboy that did porn, so knew firsthand to fold when they felt the hit. This was back in 2007-2008. I produced porn for them as well.

It's just our demographic suffered first, literally...
 
i dont think it will ever get back unless somebody comes out with something fresh and new...

like a blacked but with us and the bitches gotta b bad ....make it glamorous again & make ho`s wanna do it

shoot some high quality shit but with a home grown feel to it...dunno ...maybe that would work...

the more real & high quality it looks i think that would sell...again ...just spit balling here...lol
 
Let me explain, being that I produced, but I am from another era, called DVD. The money that used to be in porn is gone to many factors like the economy of those that can't afford the luxuries like paying for it and add to the fact that now porn is free like nothing on the web.

As much as I don't like Buffy the Body, because of dealings with her and her manager Dawn once, but she dropped some knowledge on the changing of times in a vid in the past.
She used to cake off just being in a magazine with a bikini on. She got appearances nationwide just for showing a bikini and hosting. But fast forward to where we are today with the advent of Twitter, InstaGram and the worst being Tumblr where you can see all that for free and more. Add in the porn sites like XHamster and XVideos and whatever else.

Yes there is still money there for porn producers, but the least bought form of porn which is Black or Ebony suffered the first. When the porn industry moved to paying talent with checks and taking taxes, it killed it for a lot of the true hustling chicks in black porn. They had no reason to do it but to shoot a few scenes, get popular and do features or shows nationally. Chick's I know like Mone' still gets flown all over and she hasn't done a flick in how long.

You can't pinpoint one exact factor, but there are many, and Black porn suffered first. Next is Lesbo, Gay and all the other genre's of porn below straight boy/girl scenes.

The big boys still can float in the game but many have cut many corners. I was one of the first black companies distributed by Playboy, so to know from the top, as big as a company as Jenna Jameson was under them, and I used to deal with their Pres of Playboy that did porn, so knew firsthand to fold when they felt the hit. This was back in 2007-2008. I produced porn for them as well.

It's just our demographic suffered first, literally...

KNOWLEDGE

thanks Mixd
 
simple
we makeup the minority of the porn buying community.

porn is purchased by white men who in general have a love/hate relationship with IR. They dont want blk porn so companies arent putting money behind it
 
If those IG hustles are getting those bitches trips to Dubai and and checks in the 5 to 6 figure range, that is definitely more than doing a scene for Bang Bros/Brazzers/Reality Kings which might pay between $500 and $2000 one time for a video that will be on their site forever..

Even the extreme shit like Ghetto Gaggers doesn't really pay
How u know ghetto gaggers doesn't pay good?
 
i dont think it will ever get back unless somebody comes out with something fresh and new...

like a blacked but with us and the bitches gotta b bad ....make it glamorous again & make ho`s wanna do it

shoot some high quality shit but with a home grown feel to it...dunno ...maybe that would work...

the more real & high quality it looks i think that would sell...again ...just spit balling here...lol
the market is wide open..there's a bunch of broads willing to fuck for bread on camera..throw out 500-1000 per scene and they'll jump on it..order some cameras..find diff locations and shoot it..not hard juss are you willing to do it?? that's the question..u can do that or cut cost..get a canon camera an offer 200-300 bucks for various bitches to suck your dick pov status and get a cult following of 500-1000 loyal custies that will pay 20 bucks for each scene.. pretty much dslaf style.. now when u look at the diff in budget, the less energy, u'll see why some people go fuck all that work and go with the cheaper route.. it's make a movie like get out or make a movie like "life"..4.5 million to spend to get 170 million in return or paying 100 mill hoping to make 3-400 mill..that 4.5 mill don't sound so bad
 
the black female porn star..& i mean STAR... is an endangered species also ... i cant think of one chick i would feature at my club working now...

back in the day i was bringing a porn chick once a month...

even worse no more longevity ...these chicks are all one & done`s...that also hurts the game...

just look at the ho`s i posted...almost all had multiple yr careers...now...not so much ...
 
they was paying 1,400 at 1 point..actually 1 of the highest rates in the independant genre
I know the young Nigga who took over the reigns after duke and Jimmy now.

He told me for some of the hood rats That he puts on there, he gatta pay the niggas double sometimes to fuck them hoes

They gat like 10 sites going all at once
 
the market is wide open..there's a bunch of broads willing to fuck for bread on camera..throw out 500-1000 per scene and they'll jump on it..order some cameras..find diff locations and shoot it..not hard juss are you willing to do it?? that's the question..u can do that or cut cost..get a canon camera an offer 200-300 bucks for various bitches to suck your dick pov status and get a cult following of 500-1000 loyal custies that will pay 20 bucks for each scene.. pretty much dslaf style.. now when u look at the diff in budget, the less energy, u'll see why some people go fuck all that work and go with the cheaper route.. it's make a movie like get out or make a movie like "life"..4.5 million to spend to get 170 million in return or paying 100 mill hoping to make 3-400 mill..that 4.5 mill don't sound so bad
I'm in a FB group with the last of the dying breed of Black producers. Money just ain't there like that. Not for producers. Girls make money online individually better than a company or producer can. I watch these dudes trying to sell clips on these sites like Clips4Sale. It's dead man.
they was paying 1,400 at 1 point..actually 1 of the highest rates in the independant genre
No they pay as least as possible like any producer. I know the dudes. They will pay that high depending on if she is a major star and how much they are willing to humiliate themselves. They usually start at 500 and average about 7-800 tops. Sometimes 900-1k.
 
i kno several chicks that either shot for them or were offered money to shoot for them they def wrong
Who u know that shot for them?

Cause I remember u tellin me u was cock blockin.

How Do these hoes be in contact with them to get booked?

Like that's what gets me. Do they go on the site and fil out a app?

I know they booking "agents" be getting them the best deals. But these hoes gettin spit on and vomit going back in they mouth.

I know they be feelin like a piece of shit
 
I'm in a FB group with the last of the dying breed of Black producers. Money just ain't there like that. Not for producers. Girls make money online individually better than a company or producer can. I watch these dudes trying to sell clips on these sites like Clips4Sale. It's dead man.

No they pay as least as possible like any producer. I know the dudes. They will pay that high depending on if she is a major star and how much they are willing to humiliate themselves. They usually start at 500 and average about 7-800 tops. Sometimes 900-1k.
Who do u know?

500? Man these be hoes can't be hurting

I was hearing they was going for like 1,400-2,500
 
i can't tell when the last time i paid for cable yet it generates billions, can't tell you when the last time i paid for a movie yet it generates billions.. u can find all movies and tv shows, and sports, pay-per-view for free on the internet yet all those things are billion dollar bizzness.. juss because "you or i" don't do it , it's obvious somebody is and people will continue to do so

I got to add this though...

the AVERAGE person and even above average user?

Is either TOO comfortable with the status quo...
they are STILL not a comfortable easy (Apple" way to access all this free stuff)

Cause go back and study how LONG it took for the damn Roku box to be as popular as it is?

And even now using bgol as an example...you see that thread for streaming...

it isn't EASY ( I'm not saying its DIFFICULT) but aint easy.

and consumer are so programmed its hard to break.

And remember many of these things are illegal

so if the media box bricks, or the sites crash or virus etc...

the average user is pretty much done with that.

Hell I remember it took awhile for Netflix to pop...

look how people DO NOT share their passwords like before.

Tall is right on the money...

MANY things are available...

the MONEY is making it accessible.

(and curating too)
 
I'm in a FB group with the last of the dying breed of Black producers. Money just ain't there like that. Not for producers. Girls make money online individually better than a company or producer can. I watch these dudes trying to sell clips on these sites like Clips4Sale. It's dead man.

No they pay as least as possible like any producer. I know the dudes. They will pay that high depending on if she is a major star and how much they are willing to humiliate themselves. They usually start at 500 and average about 7-800 tops. Sometimes 900-1k.
lol mix u kno i kno a few major chicks so they was paying them over a g..i kno a few unknown but those the 1's i kinda told to fall back.. as far as producers i kno a few that's making a nice low 6 figs.. they got cult followings..they promotion on point
 
these nichies like many mentioned they get more money than porn and more control over they content

the golden era of onion booty , big booty is sadly gone , unless promint black porn website produces it to lure people to they site
 
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Who u know that shot for them?

Cause I remember u tellin me u was cock blockin.

How Do these hoes be in contact with them to get booked?

Like that's what gets me. Do they go on the site and fil out a app?

I know they booking "agents" be getting them the best deals. But these hoes gettin spit on and vomit going back in they mouth.

I know they be feelin like a piece of shit
i kno a few pro's and a few amateurs..yes i stopped a few from fucking with them..the 1's that did it never hollered at me or asked for my advice about their decision to do it.. as far as some girls were informed by this talent scout here in ny that use to get chicks gigs with diff companies.. me and that crook ain't really that cool
 
For BJ scenes, you can pay $150 for a scene and for a B/G scene you can get girls for 300-500. It's the reason girls won't expose their faces doing that and would quicker go fuck a square for the same money and no exposure.
Man hoes would be lining up the block if they was giving 300-500 a scene for that shit.
 
lol mix u kno i kno a few major chicks so they was paying them over a g..i kno a few unknown but those the 1's i kinda told to fall back.. as far as producers i kno a few that's making a nice low 6 figs.. they got cult followings..they promotion on point
Majors, that's the diff, but not regulars. Unless they going extreme they paying them around 1k for that.
But still we going off topic. That's one company. Overall, money aint there like that. Yes some have cult followings, but that's not putting movies out there and getting money like in the past.
 
i kno a few pro's and a few amateurs..yes i stopped a few from fucking with them..the 1's that did it never hollered at me or asked for my advice about their decision to do it.. as far as some girls were informed by this talent scout here in ny that use to get chicks gigs with diff companies.. me and that crook ain't really that cool
What did they say was the shoot wasn't like?

Did any of these hoes have a 2nd scene with them?

What advice did you give?
 
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