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Anyone here in the lending field??? I have been trying to get on in this local company that really seems to be taking off....I wanted to know if their are any recomendations or warnings that I should be aware of. How are leads generated in this industry? I have been building relationships with realestate salesman in my area so when I know what Im doing hopefully they can do my footwork. Im not being lazy but me doing the loan would benifit both parties, and I'm not against greasing any palms to motivate my business relationships. Im in the LA area and the office is in Pasadena. Any and all insight would be greatlly appreciated, Im just trying to progress and quit selling doors and windows to pay my bills.

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clarence said:
Anyone here in the lending field??? I have been trying to get on in this local company that really seems to be taking off....I wanted to know if their are any recomendations or warnings that I should be aware of. How are leads generated in this industry? I have been building relationships with realestate salesman in my area so when I know what Im doing hopefully they can do my footwork. Im not being lazy but me doing the loan would benifit both parties, and I'm not against greasing any palms to motivate my business relationships. Im in the LA area and the office is in Pasadena. Any and all insight would be greatlly appreciated, Im just trying to progress and quit selling doors and windows to pay my bills.

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It is a bitch starting out ain’t it? Well… let do some talking Dawg… I take it that you have you CA RE Lic.
Hit me up on the PM or reply to this thread and we will go from there.
Stay up! “LICK”
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clarence said:
Anyone here in the lending field??? I have been trying to get on in this local company that really seems to be taking off....I wanted to know if their are any recomendations or warnings that I should be aware of. How are leads generated in this industry? I have been building relationships with realestate salesman in my area so when I know what Im doing hopefully they can do my footwork. Im not being lazy but me doing the loan would benifit both parties, and I'm not against greasing any palms to motivate my business relationships. Im in the LA area and the office is in Pasadena. Any and all insight would be greatlly appreciated, Im just trying to progress and quit selling doors and windows to pay my bills.

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deputy dawg said:
check for typos in ALL written correspondance. Take away reasons for overlooking your application.
True... " LICK":cool:
 
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I know of a company that has been around for 10 years that is about to do a major move in recruiting. The company does all the work on the loans and their reps only take care of origination and customer service (has to contact client every 48 hours, mandatory) and that is it. The split is lower than most, its only 25% to the rep, but all you do is origination.

They have no start-up fees are any thing, if I recall correctly they only have you purchase a small manual to make you familiar with the processes and procedures (about 20.00 and you can get it from Barnes and Noble) and order your business cards through the company approved vendor.

With them you make less per transaction, but you have the time and extra tools they provide to get more deals. It is a smart move to me because the volume (More Deals + Wonderful Service = More Referrals) and you come out on top. I know they have a few tools they have in place that really helps generate additional business.


ONE of the biggest kickers is They are Federally Chartered Bank and you do not have to worry about getting licensed in any state b/c their fed designation overrides the state requirement.

Anyone interested PM me. in the mean time I will check with my guys and see who the best contact for you to have.
 
clarence said:
Anyone here in the lending field??? I have been trying to get on in this local company that really seems to be taking off....I wanted to know if their are any recomendations or warnings that I should be aware of. How are leads generated in this industry? I have been building relationships with realestate salesman in my area so when I know what Im doing hopefully they can do my footwork. Im not being lazy but me doing the loan would benifit both parties, and I'm not against greasing any palms to motivate my business relationships. Im in the LA area and the office is in Pasadena. Any and all insight would be greatlly appreciated, Im just trying to progress and quit selling doors and windows to pay my bills.

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Dude, this is the wrong time to get into any aspect of the RE business.
 
afroyale said:
Dude, this is the wrong time to get into any aspect of the RE business.
DAYUMN! :lol: If you only knew! :lol: But it is all good my brother... :lol: I ain't mad at ya!
LICK :lol:
 
Yet another blood bath on Wall Street for Home builders and lenders. I am making a killing by shorting these stocks :yes:. I tell ya, this holiday season is gonna be a really sad one for equity locusts and RE hot heads.

clarence, the only way to make money in RE for now is to become an attorney, because 2007 is gonna be the year of RE lawsuits.


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afroyale said:
Yet another blood bath on Wall Street for Home builders and lenders. I am making a killing by shorting these stocks :yes:. I tell ya, this holiday season is gonna be a really sad one for equity locusts and RE hot heads.

clarence, the only way to make money in RE for now is to become an attorney, because 2007 is gonna be the year of RE lawsuits.


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My brother, I have been hearing this gloom and doom from 2002... And if that happens then I will buy as many as I can and wait for the cycle to go back up as it will. LICK
 
somebody's got to buy these properties...
this is the RE market you don't hear about as investors quietly amass fortunes!
It's a bad market to buy a house just to live in. Banks don't want to hold on to non-performing assets (repo'd houses), so if you have $$$ to deal or a market to sell to things are just heating up!!!
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More Americans are losing their homes
By Melinda Fulmer

Risky borrowing is catching up with a number of homeowners across the U.S. Foreclosures rose 45% in January compared to a year ago, and experts only expect the pace to accelerate. The number of homes entering some stage of foreclosure -- from notice of default to bank ownership -- increased 45% in January from the same period a year earlier, according to Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac. That was one new foreclosure for every 1,117 U.S. households.

The number of foreclosures is still low on a historical basis, but it has been rising steadily over the past year, RealtyTrac reported. Job losses in some regions were to blame, but so, too, were risky borrowing practices that left homeowners little wiggle room on their mortgage payments. And with the pace of appreciation stalling and interest rates rising, many economists and industry observers expect the pace of foreclosures to accelerate this year.

Georgia leads the pack

The areas of the country with the highest foreclosure rates on a per capita basis were Georgia, Nevada and Colorado.

* One out of every 422 households was in some stage of foreclosure in Georgia in January -- an 88% jump from the previous year. Georgia also came in at No. 5 for the highest total number of foreclosures.
* Nevada was second, with 1,795 properties entering foreclosure; 2 1/2 times the number reported the year before and one for every 483 households.
* Colorado came in at No. 3, with a 36% rise to 3,747 properties, or one in every 488 households.

Economists speculated that lost jobs in and around the Atlanta and Denver areas were the main culprits. Realtors say the hardest-hit areas appear to be houses in lower-income urban neighborhoods.

“There are definitely more foreclosures out there,” said Duane Duffy of Metro Brokers Duffy & Associates in Littleton, Colo. Indeed, when Duffy recently took a client looking at homes in southwest Denver, “one out of every four homes we were looking at seemed to be a foreclosure.” But, foreclosures, he said, are becoming much more commonplace across Denver County.

The states with the largest total number of foreclosures were Texas, with 14,669 foreclosures; Florida, with 10,334; and California, with 9,354.

In many cases, the high number was a factor of the large population, and not an indicator of a greater percentage of people getting in over their heads. In California, for example, where the number of properties entering some stage of foreclosure reached
9,354 in January, the rate at which homeowners were defaulting was still below the national average.

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National Foreclosures Decrease 13 Percent in March According to RealtyTrac(TM) U.S. Foreclosure Market Report

Foreclosures Up 63 Percent From March 2005
Colorado, Georgia, Indiana Post Highest Foreclosure Rates

IRVINE, Calif., April 18 /PRNewswire/ - RealtyTrac(TM)
(http://www.realtytrac.com), the leading online marketplace for foreclosure
properties, today released its March 2006 U.S. Foreclosure Market Report,
which shows 101,597 properties nationwide entered some stage of foreclosure
in March, a 13 percent decrease from the previous month but a 63 percent
increase from March 2005. The report shows a March national foreclosure
rate of one new foreclosure for every 1,138 U.S. households.
 
Lick said:
My brother, I have been hearing this gloom and doom from 2002... And if that happens then I will buy as many as I can and wait for the cycle to go back up as it will. LICK

Every post of yours I see, I always have the sense that you have the inside track on something. It's all good...and you are correct the cycle will repeat itself...and I need to be ready. Now educate a brotha who has about 60 g's in school loan debt (no consumer debt), on how to break into the RE industry. I can read up on this stuff forever, but I need to get my hands dirty so to speak.
 
AristotlesOwn said:
Every post of yours I see, I always have the sense that you have the inside track on something. It's all good...and you are correct the cycle will repeat itself...and I need to be ready. Now educate a brotha who has about 60 g's in school loan debt (no consumer debt), on how to break into the RE industry. I can read up on this stuff forever, but I need to get my hands dirty so to speak.
Yes my brother… You NEED to own some dirt! Any dirt anywhere!
This is what I did; In 1982 I purchased a small two bed one bath home that cost 60K. I put 10K down and borrowed 50K. The loan I received was a very bad loan. However, in 84 I did a ReFi and cashed out 25K. I made 15K with the banks money (OPM).
My X has that home now but that was my start. I did not know what I was doing. I was busy trying to start and run the many businesses I have had.
What I have learned not is what I did, made some changes and what I am doing now.
Today, I look for deals or homes with 30% equity in them. They are out there and if you work at it you can and will find them. One place is your bank. Get to know the person in the REO (Real Estate Own) department at your bank. You can find deals there and often they will loan you the funds!
Bruh, my story is a very long one and I made a lot of mistakes along the way. But learn from each mistake and move forward. Your 60K of school loans is just a number. It is all numbers and I have learned that when you reduce anything to its lowest measure you are then able to put things in its proper place in your life.
Life is a gift and like it or lump it you are in it. May as well make it the very best you can imagine. So start dreaming about how you want to live and you are going to there and after you get there what will be next. Donald Trump said think big. You are thinking anyway so you may as well think BIG!
Dawg, you can PM me and we can go from there. What I offer is free. I believe that it is enough to go around for everyone who desires it.
I know this one thing; If you want anything, work and move towards it, in time you will receive it.
Stay up! LICK
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AristotlesOwn said:
Every post of yours I see, I always have the sense that you have the inside track on something. It's all good...and you are correct the cycle will repeat itself...and I need to be ready. Now educate a brotha who has about 60 g's in school loan debt (no consumer debt), on how to break into the RE industry. I can read up on this stuff forever, but I need to get my hands dirty so to speak.


If you're already $60K in debt right out of school, there's no need to get into further debt by buying overpriced RE. All residential RE today is seriously overpriced. Wait 2-3 years until prices come down 30% to 40%. Meanwhile use the time to refinance/chip away at your debt, save and increase your FICO score (if you've got bad credit). The RE market will have to cool down a lot longer before it heats up again, so why start off at the top and lose money?
 
afroyale said:


If you're already $60K in debt right out of school, there's no need to get into further debt by buying overpriced RE. All residential RE today is seriously overpriced. Wait 2-3 years until prices come down 30% to 40%. Meanwhile use the time to refinance/chip away at your debt, save and increase your FICO score (if you've got bad credit). The RE market will have to cool down a lot longer before it heats up again, so why start off at the top and lose money?

I completely feel you, and I know that places like NYC, Phoenix, San Francisco, all the "hot spots" are definitely overpriced...and I'll wait that out, but I'm originally from an area that is more undervalued. In fact, Fortune (even though I don't always follow their advice) made a mention of it as one of the "safe cities" for investing because there are a lack of investors in that particular market...but it is slowly on the rise. There is reconstruction (and gentrification unfortunately) occuring, and because my particular neighborhood is a main thoroughfare for public transit...the property is prime...the avg. price of a home NOW is between 40 - $70,000...I see that shooting up in the next 10 or so years.

Trust, I've consolidated and locked in a decent rate for my loans (I'm still in grad school though). I haven't checked my credit in close to a year, but I'm going to do that in the next few days...
 
afroyale said:


If you're already $60K in debt right out of school, there's no need to get into further debt by buying overpriced RE. All residential RE today is seriously overpriced. Wait 2-3 years until prices come down 30% to 40%. Meanwhile use the time to refinance/chip away at your debt, save and increase your FICO score (if you've got bad credit). The RE market will have to cool down a lot longer before it heats up again, so why start off at the top and lose money?

1. Not all of it is overpriced.
2. Student loans can be delayed if you don't get a job, and have tiny interest rates, if you do get one.
3. Prices will go down yes, but interest rates will go up. No win there.
4. And, although I don't want to give all my secrets away, but, if the next president pushes for superior education system (ah..Hillary...bless me), then prices will flatten (at the worse) not decrease.
5. the next cycle is about to begin...the time to get in is now. The big question is where you do decide to do it.
 
AristotlesOwn said:
I completely feel you, and I know that places like NYC, Phoenix, San Francisco, all the "hot spots" are definitely overpriced...and I'll wait that out, but I'm originally from an area that is more undervalued. In fact, Fortune (even though I don't always follow their advice) made a mention of it as one of the "safe cities" for investing because there are a lack of investors in that particular market...but it is slowly on the rise. There is reconstruction (and gentrification unfortunately) occuring, and because my particular neighborhood is a main thoroughfare for public transit...the property is prime...the avg. price of a home NOW is between 40 - $70,000...I see that shooting up in the next 10 or so years.

Trust, I've consolidated and locked in a decent rate for my loans (I'm still in grad school though). I haven't checked my credit in close to a year, but I'm going to do that in the next few days...
Let's talk my brother... 40 to 70K is not that much... LICK
 
YmX said:
1. Not all of it is overpriced.
2. Student loans can be delayed if you don't get a job, and have tiny interest rates, if you do get one.
3. Prices will go down yes, but interest rates will go up. No win there.
4. And, although I don't want to give all my secrets away, but, if the next president pushes for superior education system (ah..Hillary...bless me), then prices will flatten (at the worse) not decrease.
5. the next cycle is about to begin...the time to get in is now. The big question is where you do decide to do it.


If he's looking for a house to live in, then fine. BUT he wants to buy and sell houses for profit! The problem at this time is, buyers are scarce. There are too many houses on the market for sale. The economic laws of supply and demand states that, prices would need to fall for excess inventory to be absorbed. When you walk into your favorite store and almost everything is on sale, it means the store is trying to move the goods fast by increasing demand. No demand, no sale, no market, no revenue.

Finally, interest rates are reversible but the sale price of a house is final. He can always refinance a high interest rate to a lower one when the rate falls, but he cannot change the price paid after signing on the dotted line.
 
afroyale said:
If he's looking for a house to live in, then fine. BUT he wants to buy and sell houses for profit! The problem at this time is, buyers are scarce. There are too many houses on the market for sale. The economic laws of supply and demand states that, prices would need to fall for excess inventory to be absorbed. When you walk into your favorite store and almost everything is on sale, it means the store is trying to move the goods fast by increasing demand. No demand, no sale, no market, no revenue.

Finally, interest rates are reversible but the sale price of a house is final. He can always refinance a high interest rate to a lower one when the rate falls, but he cannot change the price paid after signing on the dotted line.

Thanks for the macro lesson.

Afro, you make a point, capital gains could be a gamble. But, now for a marketing lesson, if you can't get with the large segment, then you niche.

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You cannot make blanket statements like this:

"The problem at this time is, buyers are scarce. There are too many houses on the market for sale. The economic laws of supply and demand states that, prices would need to fall for excess inventory to be absorbed."

a few questions:
1) Does everybody in America who wants a house already own one?
-NO! There is a HUGE market of 1st time buyers out there; those who have been cleaning up their debt to up their credit score, those who have been saving for the downpayment, those who have had recent life changes and need to downsize or upsize. Either way, new home construction most often leaves these people who are just entering home ownership unable to afford the new "McMansions".

2) How does one reach this niche market segment?
Existing houses bought at a discount (we already covered the 'other ' R.E. market) marketed to pre-approved 1st time buyers saves time and effort. People who have gone through one of the many 1st time buyer programs are the target. You'll meet many who qualify for a mortgage but not necessarily a huge amount (low earners. single parent, etc.) Keep those prospects for a quick lease-to-own deal you get wholesale from another investor. You may get lucky and get into a bidding war by pre-approved 1st timers.

3) Aren't interest rates going up?
Yeah, but that will only rush those who haven't acted yet to quickly do so. Refinancing is still going on despite rates rising, and the world still turns round & round.

It's not always about flipping - buy & sell strategies. There's also a market of renters; those who will never be able to or don't want to own a home. Plus a few markets to tap into guaranteed monthly rental income (NOT Section 8!!)

WHen people ask what I do I say:
collect checks & :dance:
 
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deputy dawg said:
"The problem at this time is, buyers are scarce. There are too many houses on the market for sale. The economic laws of supply and demand states that, prices would need to fall for excess inventory to be absorbed."

a few questions:
1)Does everybody who wants a house already own one?

And your point is? :confused:

Does everybody who wants a Ferrari already own one? You can have a roof over your head without buying it. The concept is called "rent", or in the case of a Ferrari, "lease", where you get to enjoy a luxury sports car for a fraction of the cost, and without the headaches of ownership.
 
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afroyale said:

And your point is? :confused:

Does everybody who wants a Ferrari already own one? You can have a roof over your head without buying it. The concept is called "rent", or in the case of a Ferrari, "lease", where you get to enjoy a luxury sports car for a fraction of the cost, and without the headaches of ownership.

A recent professor I had said something similar. I always thought leasing was a "sin" of sorts, or that's how the parents and others made it sound.
 
AristotlesOwn said:
A recent professor I had said something similar. I always thought leasing was a "sin" of sorts, or that's how the parents and others made it sound.

Depending on several factors which includes personal circumstances, leasing a car might be better. First off, average cars depreciate rather quickly -- like as soon as it's driven off the lot. So why not just pay for its lost value during a specific time frame, and return the darn thing to the dealership? That's what leasing a car is supposed to be. You're just paying Price X Today - Price Y in 2 years (or length of lease).

For real estate, the concept of leasing is a bit different and more complex. There are regulations which govern how much rent a landlord can charge etc. However, the rule of thumb is, when the monthly rent of a house is cheaper than the monthly mortgage payment for the same house, It's best to rent until such a time that the mortgage is equal or less than renting.

In most metropolitan areas of the country today or even backyard areas, rent is lower than PITI (Principal + Interest + Taxes + Insurance = Mortgage Payment) of owning the place. That's why interest-only loans and ARMs are popular because it lowers the mortgage payments for a couple of years until the buyer can flip the property. But there's no free lunch because, eventually, the buyer would have to start paying off the principal or go into foreclosure when another sucker can't be found to take it off their hands at a ridiculously high/fake appraised value.
 
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No need to get super-technical on this. Leasing a car is nowhere close to renting a roof over your head. I'm not talking about a pipe dream by someone who wants a Ferrari but can't afford it. I'm talking about people who have planned and worked for the PRIORITY goal of home ownership. Buying what they an afford and though it nay cost more than renting tax deductions and (eventual) appreciation give something to build wealth on and pass on to future generations.

It's O.K. to say I'm right about this afroyale. I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm saying there is a large and ever growing market of those who want to buy their 1st home and have only this year/next year become financially ready.

I'm doing it and making money so it's far beyond being just a theory that looks good on paper. I'm only a couple of years into it but know enough to make it work. I have banks/1st time buyers presenting my flips to their qualified clients for me. I'm not speculating, I'm buying low and targeting a specific markets depending on the situation.

You're a smart guy, so I know you understand what I'm saying and based on that understanding you gotta agree with me. Go on, say I'm right. Or maybe you just like to argue...

As I said so many times before, look beyond the headlines.
 
deputy dawg said:
It's O.K. to say I'm right about this afroyale. I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm saying there is a large and ever growing market of those who want to buy their 1st home and have only this year/next year become financially ready.

Name any high price tag product, and there's always a segment of people who would like to own one. The issue is affordability.

Only this year and next year to become financially ready?..WTF? Are they gonna die in three years or somethin'? You're spewing the same nonsense that fueled the housing bubble like, "They're not making any more land in ______" ... "get in now or be priced out forever" ... "If you rent, you're just making your landlord rich". Fuck that, aint nobody wanna buy some overpriced POS with shady mortgages located in Murder Town USA. Especially when there are millions of other properties on the market competing for buyers. I predict you're gonna be holding that flip for a long time while slowy bleeding cash.
 
afroyale said:
Name any high price tag product, and there's always a segment of people who would like to own one. The issue is affordability.

Only this year and next year to become financially ready?..WTF? Are they gonna die in three years or somethin'? You're spewing the same nonsense that fueled the housing bubble like, "They're not making any more land in ______" ... "get in now or be priced out forever" ... "If you rent, you're just making your landlord rich". Fuck that, aint nobody wanna buy some overpriced POS with shady mortgages located in Murder Town USA. Especially when there are millions of other properties on the market competing for buyers. I predict you're gonna be holding that flip for a long time while slowy bleeding cash.
My brother, you are assuming that the investor will be flipping the investment. BTW… They are not making any more dirt and if you rent, you are making your landlord rich. I have tenants, and their rent is paying my mortgages. When the homes increase or decrease in value I am still the owner.
Their rents payments to my company will benefit my family and for them, they only receive a roof over their head for the thirty days they pay for. I don’t care how you look at it, ownership is always better.
My two cents…. LICK!
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afroyale said:
Name any high price tag product, and there's always a segment of people who would like to own one. The issue is affordability.

The issue is ALWAYS affordability!! That's why my flips are perfect for 1st time buyers. New construction is generally priced too high for them, and being that I'm buying distressed property at its lowest price my houses are their best option.

afroyale said:
Only this year and next year to become financially ready?..WTF? Are they gonna die in three years or somethin'?

I'm talking about people who needed a couple of years to clean up their debts and raise thwir scores to qualify - the ones who weren't ready 1/2/3 years ago. Thay have been working with a bank/broker/1st time buyer program during this time to get themselves financially ready.

afroyale said:
Especially when there are millions of other properties on the market competing for buyers. I predict you're gonna be holding that flip for a long time while slowy bleeding cash.

We got mo'fukkin' Kreskin on the board, y'all! :lol:

I'm scheduled to finish my present flip by July 4th. I'm working on a promotion to hype it (Marketing & Promotion are my specialty so this will be the easy part. Details to follow...)

I predict it will sell in less than a week once I list it on MLS, if I don't get a buyer before I finish the rehab. I'm already turning down renters or those who want to lease/purchase.

Basically, a $15.5K forclosure downpayment was the only cash out of pocket.
Total expenses (mortgage & repairs) is less than $175K. (build a deck or sod the backyard?)

I'm pricing it at $220K to turn the $15.5 K to $45K in 6 months. We'll see...
 
deputy dawg said:
The issue is ALWAYS affordability!! That's why my flips are perfect for 1st time buyers. New construction is generally priced too high for them, and being that I'm buying distressed property at its lowest price my houses are their best option.



I'm talking about people who needed a couple of years to clean up their debts and raise thwir scores to qualify - the ones who weren't ready 1/2/3 years ago. Thay have been working with a bank/broker/1st time buyer program during this time to get themselves financially ready.



We got mo'fukkin' Kreskin on the board, y'all! :lol:

I'm scheduled to finish my present flip by July 4th. I'm working on a promotion to hype it (Marketing & Promotion are my specialty so this will be the easy part. Details to follow...)

I predict it will sell in less than a week once I list it on MLS, if I don't get a buyer before I finish the rehab. I'm already turning down renters or those who want to lease/purchase.

Basically, a $15.5K forclosure downpayment was the only cash out of pocket.
Total expenses (mortgage & repairs) is less than $175K. (build a deck or sod the backyard?)

I'm pricing it at $220K to turn the $15.5 K to $45K in 6 months. We'll see...
Yo Dawg... Someday I would like to bounce some things off you about the flipping game... I don't know that one yet... Ya made some very good points. I was feeling ya in the first post but this makes it very clear! LICK! :cool:
 
deputy dawg said:
The issue is ALWAYS affordability!! That's why my flips are perfect for 1st time buyers. New construction is generally priced too high for them, and being that I'm buying distressed property at its lowest price my houses are their best option.



I'm talking about people who needed a couple of years to clean up their debts and raise thwir scores to qualify - the ones who weren't ready 1/2/3 years ago. Thay have been working with a bank/broker/1st time buyer program during this time to get themselves financially ready.



We got mo'fukkin' Kreskin on the board, y'all! :lol:

I'm scheduled to finish my present flip by July 4th. I'm working on a promotion to hype it (Marketing & Promotion are my specialty so this will be the easy part. Details to follow...)

I predict it will sell in less than a week once I list it on MLS, if I don't get a buyer before I finish the rehab. I'm already turning down renters or those who want to lease/purchase.

Basically, a $15.5K forclosure downpayment was the only cash out of pocket.
Total expenses (mortgage & repairs) is less than $175K. (build a deck or sod the backyard?)

I'm pricing it at $220K to turn the $15.5 K to $45K in 6 months. We'll see...

You predict it will sell less than a week? :hmm: .... BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol: :lol:...

I am sorry, just couldn't help myself...BWHAHAHAHA!!! ... :lol:

Nigga, you're gonna be holding a bag of turd after all is said and done. This is not 2005 or 2004 or 2003. The reason you don't wanna rent out the damn place is because rental income can't cover the mortgage. Welcome to The Big Real Estate Bust of 2006.

Yo, listen my brutha -- THE RE PARTY IS OVER!
 
afroyale said:
You predict it will sell less than a week? :hmm: .... BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol: :lol:...

I am sorry, just couldn't help myself...BWHAHAHAHA!!! ... :lol:

Nigga, you're gonna be holding a bag of turd after all is said and done. This is not 2005 or 2004 or 2003. The reason you don't wanna rent out the damn place is because rental income can't cover the mortgage. Welcome to The Big Real Estate Bust of 2006.

Yo, listen my brutha -- THE RE PARTY IS OVER!
Okay bro... What Real Estate bust?

LICK! :cool:
 
Boom Prices Won't Tank
Harvard University predicts soft landing for housing market

Climbing interest rates and cooling speculative demand is putting pressure on the housing boom, but as long as jobs continue to be created and builders curb production, the sector will experience a soft landing, according to Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies.

The center's "State of the Nation's Housing" report, released on June 13, predicted that even though home-price growth will fall to more moderate levels in many areas, sharp drops in prices are unlikely. The absence of severe overbuilding or big job losses in major metropolitan areas is an important factor in the stability, the report said.


So, you're smarter than Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies, Kreskin?

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I'm turning down renters 'cuz I don't want to re-fix my quality work in a year or 2 or 3. I can more than make the note by at least $500 monthly, but I'm looking to move up (deal/dollar-wise)
No, I'm not sure what the market will be like here in the richest state in America (per capita) 1 or 2 years down the road, but it's a good time to sell now so guess what?

I have a house for you fool!! Make an appointment and I'll walk you through. Have you pre-qual letter with you , please.

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NOT the 2 of hearts - your FICO and your loan pre-approval, fool!
 
deputy dawg said:
but as long as jobs continue to be created and builders curb production, the sector will experience a soft landing, according to Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies.
I had a Harvard MBA tell me I needed to listen to him - I could learn something from him... month's later the bank seized the company he'd recently been hired into as CEO. Besides, job surplus and curbed production, that's a very tall order. I think the issue here is not whether the Real Eastate market will be negatively impacted; it already is and it will continue to be negatively impacted.

I believe the greater concern is whether to advise a guy with 60K in debt and no 9-5 to start playing in the RE game for profit. Or a guy to buy land next door to try and build a home in hopes it will be a good match for someone else.

The aspects of real estate that most of these posts refer to have significant dependecies on jobs and family cash flow. There is negative impact right now because of the job market and the resulting impact on consumers' cash flow. This will lead to more renters. One thing is certain; it will be increasingly difficult for a RE novice to sell a home, purchase a home and/or receive short-term profit. It will be equally challenging for first time buyers to purchase and maintain a new home/avoid foreclosure - again, job stability is scarce now. This creates a bottleneck in the market and if you don't have decades of experience and lot's of cash you will not be successful.

Remember in order to lead, you must first learn to follow. Many of us who are succsessful aren't necessarily teachers, so we have to carefully construct our recommendations so that we don't mislead those who are not as savy.
 
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Pharaoh said:
I had a Harvard MBA tell me I needed to listen to him - I could learn something from him... month's later the bank seized the company he'd recently been hired into as CEO. Besides, job surplus and curbed production, that's a very tall order. I think the issue here is not whether the Real Eastate market will be negatively impacted; it already is and it will continue to be negatively impacted.

I believe the greater concern is whether to advise a guy with 60K in debt and no 9-5 to start playing in the RE game for profit. Or a guy to buy land next door to try and build a home in hopes it will be a good match for someone else.

The aspects of real estate that most of these posts refer to have significant dependecies on jobs and family cash flow. There is negative impact right now because of the job market and the resulting impact on consumers' cash flow. This will lead to more renters. One thing is certain; it will be increasingly difficult for a RE novice to sell a home, purchase a home and/or receive short-term profit. It will be equally challenging for first time buyers to purchase and maintain a new home/avoid foreclosure - again, job stability is scarce now. This creates a bottleneck in the market and if you don't have decades of experience and lot's of cash you will not be successful.

Remember in order to lead, you must first learn to follow. Many of us who are succsessful aren't necessarily teachers, so we have to carefully construct our recommendations so that we don't mislead those who are not as savy.
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My brother, I hear what you are saying and I feel that a point is missing here. When question my reply was how I did it. In that reply I informed him that mistakes were made and that I learned from them. In addition, for the life of me, I cannot see how anyone can go wrong in buying a home to live in verses paying rent.
The cat with 60K of debt is not going to drop out of school and do what I do… He has too much invested in school and I would never tell a Black Man to drop out of school ever.
I said it before and I am saying it again; The Real Estate market is slow in some areas. Not in Los Angeles it is not slow enough for me to change anything I do. I still look for the deals. If you buy at retail you better be in the game to hold that until the market goes up for you to make you next move.
The market my be slow in your neck of the woods and if so, I would look into what are the rents in that area. I would look into how motivated the seller is. Motivated to sell at 20% or more under value. They are out there.
Dawg yall know what I am going to say so I will just stop here.

Stay up! LICK ! :cool:
 
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Lick said:
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Dawg yall know what I am going to say so I will just stop here.
Don't stop there playa. I don't want to discourage you guys from sharing the wealth of knowledge you have; especially when you shoot straight from the hip. Please don't mistake me fussin at Real1 earlier this year as me saying real estate is wrong... besides I think after a while there I was just posting shit to play devil's advocate - hope he's not pissed at Pharaoh. I just want to make sure the young cats who look up and say "Wow, how can I be down" understand at 100 over 100 that they've got to apply due dilligence to this thing and it doesn't happen overnight as most expect. If they learn it the right way, then they can get through dips in the market like you, dawg, real1 and the other cats here who have done this thing for years and still moving.

I was just speaking generally and happen to piggy-back off the Deputy's post. Just adding my two cents.

There are a lot of faces of RE... and I may know about 5% well... to me that's a lot, to a novice that's a lifetime, to someone who's been doing this shit for years 24x7, it's just another day at the office.

It's funny, I have to pick up at least 100 acres to build a new facility. I asked our RE firm to locate it for us... they came back with $40K per acre. Ouch. We told them to go to hell and they came back with $12K per. I just saw some in south GA on a site for about $2K, but it was a lot of 600+ acres. Guess I was wrong to pick on the fam about the $1K land, learn something new every day, huh.

Big big risk if you haven't played the game for years now; it's still a big risk if you have experience and relationships only the risk is more manageable.

Peace
 
deputy dawg said:
So, you're smarter than Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies, Kreskin?


Does something about this list jump out at you? Nigga, you be fukked! :lol:


Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies
Policy Advisory Board- Member Companies


84 Lumber Company

Andersen Windows

Armstrong Holdings, Inc.

Beazer Homes USA

Boise Cascade, LLC

Boral Industries

The Bozzuto Group

Bradco Supply Corporation

Builders FirstSource

Building Materials Holding Corporation

Canfor Corporation

Cendant Corporation

Centex Corporation

CertainTeed Corporation

Champion Enterprises

Countrywide Financial Corporation

Crosswinds Communities

Fannie Mae

Fannie Mae Foundation

Federal Home Loan Bank of Boston

Fortune Brands - Home and Hardware

Freddie Mac

GAF Materials Corporation

Georgia-Pacific Corporation

Gibraltar Industries

Hanley Wood, LLC

Hearthstone

Home Depot

Hovnanian Enterprises

Huttig Building Products

Jeld-Wen

Johns Manville Corporation

KB Home

Kimball Hill Homes

Kohler Company

Lafarge North America

Lanoga Corporation

Lennar Corporation

Louisiana-Pacific Corporation

Marvin Windows and Doors

Masco Corporation

Masonite International Corporation

McGraw-Hill Construction

Meritage Homes Corporation

MI Windows and Doors, Inc.

Move, Inc.

National Gypsum Company

Oldcastle Building Products, Inc.

Owens Corning

Pacific Coast Building Products

Pella Corporation

Pulte Homes

Reed Business Information

Rinker Materials

The Ryland Group

S&B Industrial Materials S.A.

The Sherwin-Williams Company

Stock Building Supply

The Strober Organization

Temple-Inland

UBS Investment Bank

Weyerhaeuser

Whirlpool Corporation

http://www.jchs.harvard.edu/people/pabmemberlist.html
 
Pharaoh said:
I had a Harvard MBA tell me I needed to listen to him - I could learn something from him... month's later the bank seized the company he'd recently been hired into as CEO. Besides, job surplus and curbed production, that's a very tall order. I think the issue here is not whether the Real Eastate market will be negatively impacted; it already is and it will continue to be negatively impacted.

I believe the greater concern is whether to advise a guy with 60K in debt and no 9-5 to start playing in the RE game for profit. Or a guy to buy land next door to try and build a home in hopes it will be a good match for someone else.

The aspects of real estate that most of these posts refer to have significant dependecies on jobs and family cash flow. There is negative impact right now because of the job market and the resulting impact on consumers' cash flow. This will lead to more renters. One thing is certain; it will be increasingly difficult for a RE novice to sell a home, purchase a home and/or receive short-term profit. It will be equally challenging for first time buyers to purchase and maintain a new home/avoid foreclosure - again, job stability is scarce now. This creates a bottleneck in the market and if you don't have decades of experience and lot's of cash you will not be successful.

Remember in order to lead, you must first learn to follow. Many of us who are succsessful aren't necessarily teachers, so we have to carefully construct our recommendations so that we don't mislead those who are not as savy.


I am just gonna shut up and listen to Pharaoh lay it down. :yes:
 
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