LeBron James was 'adamant' with Cavaliers GM: Do not trade Kyrie Irving, minutes later trade happen!

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LeBron James was 'adamant' with Cavaliers GM: Do not trade Kyrie Irving
By Charles Curtis
November 19, 2018 8:02

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On Wednesday, LeBron James will return to play against the Cavaliers for the first time since leaving Cleveland for the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.

In an interview with The Athletic, he revisited what he called “the beginning of the end for everything” with the Cavaliers: The trade of Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics.

The story recounts the day the Cavs made the deal: James was signing jerseys in Santa Monica, and with the trade about to go down, then-coach Tyronn Lue drove to James and got him on the phone with GM Koby Altman:

James was adamant on the call — do not trade Irving, especially to the Celtics. By the end of the call, according to four separate accounts of people present for the conversation, Altman told James the trade would not occur.

Minutes later, on Aug. 22, 2017, word broke that the Cavs agreed in principle to send Irving to Boston for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and Brooklyn’s 2018 first-round pick.

James’ close friend, Randy Mims, and bodyguard Rob Brown came to him with their phones to show him the news. James, who was still signing jerseys, dropped the pen and slumped in his chair. …

James suggested he didn’t feel he was lied to by Altman, so much as Altman was overruled by owner Dan Gilbert.

“You realize at that point in time, take nothing from Koby, because Koby (was just named GM), but at that point in time, you realize that Koby’s not the only one running the team, as (former GM David Griffin) had done, and that’s why Griff was let go pretty much,” James said.

We know that James’ relationship with Gilbert was icy to say the least, particularly after the now-infamous scathing letter written in Comic Sans font after James bolted for Miami years ago.

But we also know that James was a year away from making another free-agent decision, and that’s where the Cavs’ front office’s response is key:

Cavs front-office officials declined to be quoted for this story but disputed that Altman gave James any indication the trade would not occur. They also said Altman asked James whether he would commit to the Cavs long-term if Irving were not traded, and James said no.

In other words, it was a complicated situation for Cleveland’s brass: If James did indeed want the team to keep Irving but he had the potential to leave, what should the Cavaliers done? Start a rebuild or hope James would decide to stay? Then you have to factor in reports that Irving was unhappy at the time — The Athletic story mentions he “told the Cavs he wanted out so badly he’d go ahead with knee surgery and miss a large portion of the year.”

They chose to kick-start the rebuild, and here we are over a year later. Irving will contend for a title with the Celtics, James and the Lakers are figuring out how to work together and the Cavs are a mess.
 
Bs. Why didn't James call Kyrie then and say why you want to leave we need you? Funny how this nigga saying all this after it didn't work. I remember when they got D. ROSE James was tweeting rose emojis and shit
 
Bs. Why didn't James call Kyrie then and say why you want to leave we need you? Funny how this nigga saying all this after it didn't work. I remember when they got D. ROSE James was tweeting rose emojis and shit


Actually he said he did call Kyrie:dunno: and asked him if it was true...
 
I believe it...

He was under contract.

Hate or love it Kyrie gonna ball, worst case?

He sit out with "injury "
 
we knew this then, right after it went down

anyone who didnt was a blind hater that looking for any excuse to blame lebron


Like DirtyCake right above your post...

Gilbert tried to use Kyrie to blackmail Lebron to commit to stay
 
At the end of the day,this stupid ass trade is on the stupid ass owner. You dont trade your second best player for potentials and scrubs,let alone to your rival,who got alot better with that move.


I cant stand this fucking owner,this piece of shit was happy winning one title, while the Warriors were upgrading, while acting like they didn't win any titles....The Warriors literally upgraded after losing to the Cavs,while the Cavs didn't do shit after winning it..lol


And,then the owner wants to be cheap by not re-signing,the GM that was trying to get free agents to come to the team.
 
people keep bringing up the stupid trade forget that Kyrie assumed Bron was behind or knew about him being traded and went on a twitter tirade and turned off his phone.

after he learned the truth the damage was done, the bridge was burned, they HAD to trade him and IT was the only good offer out there
 
Anybody that thought LBJ had something to do with Kyrie being traded has no clue about the mindset of the Cavs owner and what really went down between LBJ and Kyrie. They only have a storyline of LBJ that fits along their narrative of who he is against their favorite player. Like Flavor Flav said, "you're blind baby." Kyrie would have went to the Knicks if he could. Is that the mindset of a dude trying to win or just trying to be the big fish in a small pond?
 
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Kyrie signed that extension before LBJ decided to come back to the Cavs. He thought he was going to be the big dog in Cleveland but LBJ stopped all that by coming back. That's why Kyrie was cool with being traded to the Knicks. He wasn't interested in winning. Just shining because he got his ring. The trade God's sent him to the Celtics. But because LBJ is involved he's the scape goat in all this while the real villains are overlooked. The owner and Kyrie.
 
At the end of the day,this stupid ass trade is on the stupid ass owner. You dont trade your second best player for potentials and scrubs,let alone to your rival,who got alot better with that move.


I cant stand this fucking owner,this piece of shit was happy winning one title, while the Warriors were upgrading, while acting like they didn't win any titles....The Warriors literally upgraded after losing to the Cavs,while the Cavs didn't do shit after winning it..lol


And,then the owner wants to be cheap by not re-signing,the GM that was trying to get free agents to come to the team.


Bruh, inept and cheap ass owners is the most consistent damn story in Cleveland sports.... God damm
 
Ego`s been the downfall of men and empire`s 4 yrs....nothing different now...

sad ....but hey i dont give a shit...not a cav`s or boston fan or lakers fan for that matter ....

so fuck em...
 
Lol how the hero of Cleveland aka kyrie narrative is changing now...I remember how all the fake cav fans said kyrie was stupid and wasn't needed cause they got it...remember how dudes laughed when in the first game of Celtics and old boy got injured people was like kyrie regret that trade now...people thought Cleveland could survive without kyrie... Even LeBron admitted after Cleveland savior left it was grand closing


Cleveland savior...never forget
 
Lol how the hero of Cleveland aka kyrie narrative is changing now...I remember how all the fake cav fans said kyrie was stupid and wasn't needed cause they got it...remember how dudes laughed when in the first game of Celtics and old boy got injured people was like kyrie regret that trade now...people thought Cleveland could survive without kyrie... Even LeBron admitted after Cleveland savior left it was grand closing


Cleveland savior...never forget


How is the narrative changing? Kyrie was the 2nd best player on the team but the go to guy in clutch moments. And LeBron like most of us knew, ANY team needs a guy like that. What good is a Steph Curry being the human cheat code all season, but when in the semis and finals come around dude is virtually just a body on the court?

And then for Gilbert to ok a trade with Boston on some petty ass "we'll show him," shit is just madness. How often do we play Boston in a season.... That just wasn't smart. We made their team better and significantly harmed our own....
 
Lol how the hero of Cleveland aka kyrie narrative is changing now...I remember how all the fake cav fans said kyrie was stupid and wasn't needed cause they got it...remember how dudes laughed when in the first game of Celtics and old boy got injured people was like kyrie regret that trade now...people thought Cleveland could survive without kyrie... Even LeBron admitted after Cleveland savior left it was grand closing


Cleveland savior...never forget




It's mostly bandwagon fans that says that nonsense....Most died hard fans always give Kyrie his props,especially for hitting that game winning three at the end.
 
How is the narrative changing? Kyrie was the 2nd best player on the team but the go to guy in clutch moments. And LeBron like most of us knew, ANY team needs a guy like that. What good is a Steph Curry being the human cheat code all season, but when in the semis and finals come around dude is virtually just a body on the court?

And then for Gilbert to ok a trade with Boston on some petty ass "we'll show him," shit is just madness. How often do we play Boston in a season.... That just wasn't smart. We made their team better and significantly harmed our own....
The bgol threads of past had very diff narratives...kyrie was replaceable according to some people on this board...it was gonna ball out, maybe better than kyrie some said...bgol narratives switch like the weather especially when proven wrong... It's why you see certain yrs threads of certain teams are highly talked about and than not at all..no more heat threads no more cavs thread
 
Me too and I ain't a Cavs fan, but I wish I would've pack up and hit the road

Downtown had over 2 million people there,that's 5 or 6 times more than the actual population. Most of them were from the surrounding cities and folks that left it but support the team...

You had white folks scaling buildings acting like they're Spider-Man..
 
Downtown had over 2 million people there,that's 5 or 6 times more than the actual population. Most of them were from the surrounding cities and folks that left it but support the team...

You had white folks scaling buildings acting like they're Spider-Man..


Bro the clips I saw after game 7 had me wanting to be there....
 
I was totally wrong about this season. I really thought this team could win 40-42 games season...I wasn't expecting them get the top 4 seeds but dayum I really thought this team could get the 6th or 7th seed..I should of known that piece of shit of an owner would fuck shit up as usual.
 
After losing in the finals did they really think they would be better off without Kyrie next season?
 
So is he trying to say that if they didn't trade Kyrie he would have stayed.
No, but it would've been a nice part of the negotiations to keep him, especially if they would've beat GS. Either way don't matter, name a good reason for trading Kyrie?
 
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