Leader Hakeem Jeffries in conversations for bipartisan solution to Speakership

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said Sunday that there are “informal conversations” taking place for a bipartisan solution to the House Speakership, which has been vacant for nearly two weeks.

“There are informal conversations that have been underway. When we get back to Washington tomorrow, it’s important to begin to formalize those discussions,” he told NBC’s Kristen Welker on “Meet the Press.”






I know its just dialogue, but I think Leader Jefferies is perfect for the job if it happens, I hate that at almost every turn America at its worse always has to be saved by US:oops::hmm:, at the same time I don't even need to say it. The irony.

jmo
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the old GOP house members help make him speaker and get rid of that dumbazz law that got them in this spot in the first place. They know the MAGA wave must come to an end and they don't want to be on the losing side of this next election. Playball or fall GOP.
 
He could negotiate with 5 or so moderate/vulnerable Republicans. Give them what they want.

There are Republicans that want no parts of impeaching Biden, govt shutdowns, etc.


No, no. Many people in this thread are thinking Jeffries is up for Speaker and he is not. The constitution says the speaker comes from the majority party.

That is what I was pointing out.
 
No, no. Many people in this thread are thinking Jeffries is up for Speaker and he is not. The constitution says the speaker comes from the majority party.

That is what I was pointing out.

The constitution doesn't say that. Only that the Speaker receives a majority of votes amongst the members present while having enough to ensure a quorum.

The Speaker has come from the majority party by tradition, not constitutional law.
 
I wonder how he could be when the Speaker is from the majority party.
The speaker doesn't have to be from the majority party. They just need to get the majority of those voting. In his case he'd need all of the Democratic votes and a few Republican votes.
With that said he's most likely getting with other "moderates", those on the Republican side to figure out what Republican he and other Dems will help make speaker instead of Jim Jordan or Scalise or one of the high profile nut jobs on that side. And he'll get some minimal concessions from whoever he helps elect as well.
 
The speaker doesn't have to be from the majority party. They just need to get the majority of those voting. In his case he'd need all of the Democratic votes and a few Republican votes.
With that said he's most likely getting with other "moderates", those on the Republican side to figure out what Republican he and other Dems will help make speaker instead of Jim Jordan or Scalise or one of the high profile nut jobs on that side. And he'll get some minimal concessions from whoever he helps elect as well.
Is it possible that there could be a deal cut that makes Hakeem Jeffries Speaker of the House if Joe Biden doesn’t run in 2024? Also that would kill of Trump's strong hold on the party once and for all. You solve two problems by getting youth and new leadership on both sides.
 
Is it possible that there could be a deal cut that makes Hakeem Jeffries Speaker of the House if Joe Biden doesn’t run in 2024? Also that would kill of Trump's strong hold on the party once and for all. You solve two problems by getting youth and new leadership on both sides.
Republicans aren't in the business of doing anything that would put power in the hands of the other side for even a second. Also they want Biden to run in 2024. He's not exactly a popular or charismatic figure to lead a major party. They don't want new leadership on the Dems side since they've spent the better part of a decade shitting on Biden, Shumer and Pelosi who may not be the "leader" of the Dems in Congress but is still a power broker within the party.
Republicans don't solve problems. They find new problems to bitch and fear monger about.
The only way they'd even consider it is if they're sure that they'll be a government shutdown and they could then pin it on the Dems if Jeffries was speaker and even that is a massive stretch since it was McCarthy reneging on a previously agreed on deal that has us here.
 


BREAKING: Republican House Speaker candidate Jim Jordan gets devastating news as multiple House Republicans threaten to skip the speaker vote that he’s trying to force — which will allow Hakeem Jeffries to win and become the House Speaker.

But it gets even WORSE for Jim Jordan… A Republican Congressman told a reporter, “What happens when Jordan forces us to the floor to try to pressure us and all of a sudden we don’t show up and Hakeem Jeffries is speaker cause he wanted to be a bully?”

Adding insult to injury for Jordan, several moderate Republicans told CBS news today that “they would oppose his candidacy,” leaving Jordan’s bid to be speaker in “grave doubt.” This is brutal news for Jordan, because he can’t afford to lose just FIVE votes — whether they vote for someone else or they simply don’t show up to vote at all.

If that happens, which is now becoming a real possibility, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries will become House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries — and today’s Republican majority will go down in history as the most embarrassing, dysfunctional majority in the history of the U.S. Congress.

Trumper Jim Jordan thought that being elected speaker would be a cakewalk, but now it appears that it may backfire in the most spectacular way imaginable.
 
The constitution doesn't say that. Only that the Speaker receives a majority of votes amongst the members present while having enough to ensure a quorum.

The Speaker has come from the majority party by tradition, not constitutional law.

right. not in the constitution but the de facto party leader.
 
They can imply it as threat if they want, but I can't see any world where Republicans put Jeffries into the Speaker role. I can see them coordinating with hm to insure they have enough votes to put a "reasonable" Republican in the chair, but I don't see a scenario where they willingly concede that much power or control.
 
They can imply it as threat if they want, but I can't see any world where Republicans put Jeffries into the Speaker role. I can see them coordinating with hm to insure they have enough votes to put a "reasonable" Republican in the chair, but I don't see a scenario where they willingly concede that much power or control.
Keep your eyes on this mess overseas and believe me anything is possible at this point.

Jmo
 
Boomer Republicans are learning a hard lesson about their decisions when they was younger, especially with Reagan. I hope Jim Jordan don’t get that seat because we are not going to have a budget. If he do even the Republicans in the senate are not feeling him.
 
House of Representatives

House speaker contender Steve Scalise reportedly called himself ‘David Duke without the baggage’​

Republican, who some say could replace Kevin McCarthy, has had reported associations with ex-Ku Klux Klan grand wizard

 
GOVERNMENT

Claims Rep. Jim Jordan has never passed a law need context​

The GOP candidate for speaker of the House has never been the primary sponsor of a bill that passed into law, but he has cosponsored many that have.
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Credit: AP
Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, listens after he was not successful in the first ballot, as Republicans try to elect him to be the new House speaker.

Author: Casey Decker
Published: 6:01 PM EDT October 17, 2023
Updated: 6:01 PM EDT October 17, 2023
The House of Representatives remains without a leader after the preferred candidate of the far-right wing of the Republican party, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), failed to gain enough votes to be elected speaker.
Jordan is a polarizing member within the GOP thanks to his continued questioning of the 2020 election results, his refusal to comply with Congressional subpoenas, and his reputation as an obstructionist.
Former Speaker of the House John Boehner, a fellow Ohio Republican, once called Jordan a “legislative terrorist” for his tendencies to blow up deals.
As Jordan’s campaign for the speakership materialized, so did more specific accusations about his ineffectiveness as a lawmaker.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) called Jordan “a nominee who in 16 years in this Congress hasn't passed a single bill.”

THE QUESTION​

Is it true that Rep. Jim Jordan has never passed a bill into law?

THE SOURCES​

THE ANSWER​

This needs context.

While no law has ever passed with Jordan as the primary sponsor, he has cosponsored bills that have become laws.

WHAT WE FOUND​

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) was first elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2006, taking office in 2007. He’s currently serving his ninth term in office, making 2023 his 17th year in Congress.
According to the congressional database, in the nearly two decades he’s served, Jordan has been the primary sponsor on 53 pieces of legislation. None have ever become law.
Only three Jordan-sponsored items have ever even passed the House, despite the chamber being under Republican control for nine of Jordan’s 17 years. All three were resolutions, which unlike bills cannot become binding law, and are merely a formal expression of how the chamber feels about a particular issue.
The vast majority of legislation introduced by Jordan did not make it as far as a committee hearing.
However, Jordan has signed on as cosponsor to several bills that eventually became law. Cosponsorship sometimes means the member is actively involved in the proposal’s composition, but it could also simply represent a quick show of support for a proposal brought forth by another member. Some bills have hundreds of cosponsors.
During his tenure Jordan has cosponsored 1,285 pieces of legislation. Of those, 71 became law. Two additional resolutions passed both the House and Senate but were vetoed, both by President Biden.
It’s become increasingly rare for bills to become laws. Until the mid-90s, it was common for Congress to pass and for the president to sign upwards of 300 laws per year. Now, that number rarely exceeds 200.
In Jordan’s 16 full years in office, a total of 2,796 bills have become law – an average of about 175 per year. Given there are 535 members of Congress, the odds any one member sponsors a piece of legislation that becomes law is relatively low.
For example, Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), another proposed candidate for speaker and who was elected to the House the same year as Jordan, has had only one bill for which he was primary sponsor become law.
However, Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), also elected the same year, has had 10 laws passed for which he was the primary sponsor.
The Center for Effective Lawmaking, a joint project of the University of Virginia and Vanderbilt University, assigns ratings to members of Congress based on how far bills they sponsor get and how substantial those bills are.
In the current Congress, only four members have a lower effectiveness score than Jordan. Six others have the same rating he does. Jordan has consistently rated near the bottom, meaning he has proposed little meaningful legislation in comparison to his colleagues, and the legislation he has proposed has had little relative success.

 
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