Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a ring"

Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Shit Nash has one up one James, Two time MVP going to a super team.

Kobe - top sg guard in NBA
Paul - top five power forward
Andrew - top center at times
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Tiny Archibald, Dave Cowens, Pistol Pete Maravich, Robert Chief Parrish, Kevin McHale, Bill Walton, Dennis Johnson. Larry Bird played with 7 HOFers over the course of his career. And had at least 3 of them on his squad every year. His PG Dennis Johnson had already won a title and been a Finals MVP before he came to Boston. Walton had already won a title and been a Finals MVP. So Bird had no problem teaming up with those guys and building "super teams" when it was in his best interest.

/end thread
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

So from what most have said in this thread why don't we just have a couple of teams with All Star level players at every position and have them duke it out for the ring every year cause that seems to be where we're headed.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

So from what most have said in this thread why don't we just have a couple of teams with All Star level players at every position and have them duke it out for the ring every year cause that seems to be where we're headed.

u musta missed the 80s with lakers and celtics.

all number 1's on the floor.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Kidd going to the knicks would be a nice squad, if he's 70%


Kidd
JR
Melo
Stat
Tyson
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

u musta missed the 80s with lakers and celtics.

all number 1's on the floor.

Bosh is ass when it's time to clown the Heat.
He's talents are top, when it comes discuss them teaming up.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

I like Larry Bird and dude is a legend, but thats easy for him to say when his Celtics squad had HOFers on it when he got there, traded for HOFers, even brought in HOFer Bill Walton late in his career to "ride his coattails" to a ring. If Bird had played with scrubs his whole career he'd have a point, but it just sounds like he's upset Bron is gonna surpass his ring total and will be considered the best SF of all time very soon.

As for Bird: the 'big 3' didn't do anything GMs don't do. That's try to assemble the best team possible for the least amount of money possible, to win a championship. Everybody's just mad because players out-foxed the owners (as well as their competition) and it worked. They didn't break any rules, at the time. Hate the game, not the player(s).

In one breath its "rings are everything, guys should care about that most"

Next breath "its cheating if you sacrifice $$$ for a ring, you should always go to the highest bidder because thats what the GM and owners are depending on."

larry's just one of many
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Now all of a sudden players caring about winning more than money and the spotlight is a problem?

Bron, wade and Bosh did EVERYTHING these fuckers said they wanted from pro athletes.
  • Honor their contracts
  • Take less to win
  • Sacrifice personal glory for team
But cause Young Black players took control of their destiny it's a problem no matter how they did it.
Shit is sickening and should be a wake up call to any athlete that thinks these GM's give a lilly fuck about them.

All of that^^^
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

all teams that won a ring had multiple HOF. end of story.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

all teams that won a ring had multiple HOF. end of story.

The Rockets might be the only exception, other than The Dream can't think of anybody else.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

all teams that won a ring had multiple HOF. end of story.

There is no end of story....keep pretending that there isn't a difference between puttong a team together via the draft or trade versus what LeBron did. He did't do anything wrong. It was just bitchlike. End of story.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

all teams that won a ring had multiple HOF. end of story.

Who were the Hall of Famers on the Pistons, Larry Brown and Joe Dumars :rolleyes:
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

basically!



But who was to blame for LBJ, Bosh & Wade not being able to win a title the "hard way" like the legends? Is it their fault or the fault of the GM's that built bs teams around them? Or should the blame be split between the players (by not doing what was needed on the court) and the GM's?

The bottom line is the bulk of the NBA players aint built like Bird, MJ, etc. Most of them put their egos and cash before the hunger to win.Bird and them just need to accept that. Its a different era.

Cosign.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Bosh is ass when it's time to clown the Heat.
He's talents are top, when it comes discuss them teaming up.

:lol: :lol:

yup these dudes are gymnasts with their arguments
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Man Larry Bird was one of the best dudes to play this game but he's dead wrong about this...First of all even if star do play for the same team, they still have to work to win a title. Back when he played they didn't have much of a choice and HE was fortunate to play with great players and coaches. In the end the game aint played on paper so it doesn't matter that much if stars come together or not
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

this from the mofo who had some of the best in the game at that time on his team. If he had four scrubs, he wouldn't have one ring.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Allen may be saying "larry you see the Championship parties they throw in Miami, beats having to get thrown out the bar at 2a.m. and going out and burning Championship parked cars"
 
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i see what everyone is saying and both sides got points... it is a different era... for better or for worse... Larry, Magic and Jordan had stacked teams with HOF everywhere they looked.. plus it was in a era where toughness could make a less skilled player a priceless asset in a playoff run

My Celtics are to blame... Bron cheated tho imo... the unwritten rule was once you served yuor time you could go chase that ring... Payton, Barkley, Malone, etc all get passes cause they wasn't trying to get stripes off the ring they was looking for a consolation prize imo

still happy to see bron get his... but it would have been saying more if he did it with CLE... anyone who argue against that is a stan imo
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

I like Larry Bird and dude is a legend, but thats easy for him to say when his Celtics squad had HOFers on it when he got there, traded for HOFers, even brought in HOFer Bill Walton late in his career to "ride his coattails" to a ring. If Bird had played with scrubs his whole career he'd have a point, but it just sounds like he's upset Bron is gonna surpass his ring total and will be considered the best SF of all time very soon.

name one player that took a huge paycut just to play w/bird? it wasn't the same as dudes taking mad cuts to run to miami to win a ring. guys were either already w/the celtics or traded to um from other teams. THEN got better after buying into the system and stayin in their lane. if u look at the celtics prior to bird gettin there, it ain't like they were ballin outta control. biggest named player u can say they signed around the bird era was pistol pete, and he was on the decline in his career at that time anyway. dude couldn't even last the season....and that was the first year they won a championship
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

i see what everyone is saying and both sides got points... it is a different era... for better or for worse... Larry, Magic and Jordan had stacked teams with HOF everywhere they looked.. plus it was in a era where toughness could make a less skilled player a priceless asset in a playoff run

My Celtics are to blame... Bron cheated tho imo... the unwritten rule was once you served yuor time you could go chase that ring... Payton, Barkley, Malone, etc all get passes cause they wasn't trying to get stripes off the ring they was looking for a consolation prize imo

still happy to see bron get his... but it would have been saying more if he did it with CLE... anyone who argue against that is a stan imo

Agree a title with the Cavs may have been the greatest title ever.
Only thing I missed about James with the cavs, are the fun those boys had.
They would put on, that shit made me a fan of Danny Green.

KG did put his time but, he also said he wished he would've been left.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Lebron got tired of getting his ass jumped. So he went get his crew, instead of fighting with the locals.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Hold up, I thought the Celts weren't feeling Ray anymore. All the talk about him getting old and breaking up the Big 3. Now dude testing others waters they offering money. Shit that makes ya go Hmmmmmm.:yes::yes:
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

haters would have love to see Bron rot on the Cavs. Not like the Cavs owner/gm was trying to put together a team that would actually compliment him.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

he's 100% correct

them niggaz is pussy

why are we still debating this?

thats like MJ going to the celtics to play with magic or him going to detroit or the lakers cuz he couldnt win

shit is mad pussy

i dont wanna debate this, its the truth its apussy move, only a pussy would do it, no real competitor would do this
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

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Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

Yet these same type of salty CAC's will go out their way to praise the NY Yankees for being the greatest organization in American sports..:rolleyes:
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

haters would have love to see Bron rot on the Cavs. Not like the Cavs owner/gm was trying to put together a team that would actually compliment him.

The problem was they were making the playoffs, resulting in low draft picks, the Cavs didn't look appealing to free agents, shit I won't be surprised if Irving leaves.



Why CP3 don't get shitted on?
 
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As for Bird: the 'big 3' didn't do anything GMs don't do. That's try to assemble the best team possible for the least amount of money possible, to win a championship. Everybody's just mad because players out-foxed the owners (as well as their competition) and it worked. They didn't break any rules, at the time. Hate the game, not the player(s).

you took the words right out of my mouth, it was about players with power, thats why stern nixed the chris paul deal, they want guys to opt in like howard simp ass did....to stay in control....
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

whats funny is every one arguing how lebron got his ring is only echoing the views of disgruntled team owners. no one give a rats ass about the slaves in the field, only the massahs well being. let lebron live and stop pushing disgruntled owners views of how shit went down. i personally see it as a big fuck you to these cheap ass gm's and owners who feel they can rape a nigga all the while claiming the dude getting it has some type of fucking allegence owed to the same team who would drop him in a heart beat if he blew out his knee. you lebron haters are fucking clowns in the grand scheme of things.


ole "massah is we sick" type niggas.
ole "massah our house is on fire" type niggas.

team owners have raped more ball players for the best years of their careers than you can shake a stick at. dont get mad cause he took his ass and went where he wouldnt be on the receiving end of white team owners raping. house niggas and there mind set never stops amazing me.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

this

i just grew up in a different era where players wanted to beat the best

not join them

hell barkely and ewing would have rings if they did that shit back then


Was going to say something similar. Imagine the Dave Bing's, the Bob Lanier's, the Bob Love's, Chet Walker's, Walter Davises and even the George Gervin's and Pete Maraviches of the league running to a team with Magic or Kareem...or even Wilt Chamberlain. It might've happened with lesser players, but the stars usually went down with the ship back then. They may not have won a title, but they gathered much more respect. First player I saw openly admit that he was leaving a so called bad team to try to win a title was Deon Sanders when he went to the Niners. Since then it happens all the time in hoops and sometimes in football...mofos ain't got no shame
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

The Rockets might be the only exception, other than The Dream can't think of anybody else.

Yessir Olajuwon was special those 2 years.. But he had Drexler the 2nd title & Horry might make HOF one day

Who were the Hall of Famers on the Pistons, Larry Brown and Joe Dumars :rolleyes:

Rodman
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

whats funny is every one arguing how lebron got his ring is only echoing the views of disgruntled team owners. no one give a rats ass about the slaves in the field, only the massahs well being. let lebron live and stop pushing disgruntled owners views of how shit went down. i personally see it as a big fuck you to these cheap ass gm's and owners who feel they can rape a nigga all the while claiming the dude getting it has some type of fucking allegence owed to the same team who would drop him in a heart beat if he blew out his knee. you lebron haters are fucking clowns in the grand scheme of things.


ole "massah is we sick" type niggas.
ole "massah our house is on fire" type niggas.

team owners have raped more ball players for the best years of their careers than you can shake a stick at. dont get mad cause he took his ass and went where he wouldnt be on the receiving end of white team owners raping. house niggas and there mind set never stops amazing me.
:lol:
Preach!
:yes::yes:
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

You see how Jim Brown is 65-70 years old still running around got all kinds of juice?? Been a movie star, author, football legend, shits in the face of authority like Muhammad Ali did and they STILL coming at him with respect and admiration??

That could've been LJ. All he had to do was win ONE time in Cleveland and he'd own that city. To HELL with the Cleveland owners, just one title and they'd be naming streets and schools after him and building statues...
 
You see how Jim Brown is 65-70 years old still running around got all kinds of juice?? Been a movie star, author, football legend, shits in the face of authority like Muhammad Ali did and they STILL coming at him with respect and admiration??

That could've been LJ. All he had to do was win ONE time in Cleveland and he'd own that city. To HELL with the Cleveland owners, just one title and they'd be naming streets and schools after him and building statues...

The irony of your post and your screen name. Lebron is the run away slave in this instance. He left a fucked up situation that only benefited the owner and left him in a position that all players should be striving for. He owned his destiny. Instead you say he should have continued to be used by a team and a system that looked to capitalize on his talents and throw him away when he out lives his usefulness. Oh the irony. I'm from ohio and fully stand behind what he did and how he did it.
 
Re: Larry Bird - So you mad ha!! "Guys ride the coattails of the best just to get a r

The irony of your post and your screen name. Lebron is the run away slave in this instance. He left a fucked up situation that only benefited the owner and left him in a position that all players should be striving for. He owned his destiny. Instead you say he should have continued to be used by a team and a system that looked to capitalize on his talents and throw him away when he out lives his usefulness. Oh the irony. I'm from ohio and fully stand behind what he did and how he did it.



If you consider overcoming the odds and quite possibly having streets named after you, statues in your honor and a city that LOVES you for decades to come so much that it goes way beyond the scope and grasp of some old curmudgeonly white team owner, I would call that the irony in your post. I don't see anywhere in what I wrote condoning that man bow down and let someone spitefully own him. That's all in YOUR head. Instead what I suggest is that if he decides to stay...to cast down his buckets where he stand and make something great out of it like our ancestors taught us to do (why else are we still in this country?), then the ENTIRE CITY OF CLEVELAND would be his. As much as it was for Jim Brown for a significant part of his life AFTER football. Where in the blue fuck does that read as being a slave? (It's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering)


btw, RICK BARRY didn't even run to a superior team looking to score an NBA title. He got it the old fashioned way, but dig, he got it.
And there wasn't a franchise as cheap as the San Francisco Warriors....Now his SONS are running around living off their pops legacy....
:smh:
 
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