Lakers' Lonzo Ball, Luke Walton say LaVar Ball wrong, Walton hasn't lost team

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LOS ANGELES -- Luke Walton and Lonzo Ball both say that the Los Angeles Lakers' head coach has not lost the locker room during a nine-game losing streak, as LaVar Ball asserted.

Lonzo Ball also said, "I'll play for anybody," when the rookie point guard was asked whether he is fine with Walton as his coach.?

Ball's comments came after his father,? LaVar, told ESPN's Jeff Goodman?that "Luke doesn't have control of the team no more. They don't want to play for him."

"He's a grown man," Ball said of his father's comments following the Lakers' shootaround at Staples Center. "Like I said, he is going to say what he wants to say. I can't [do] nothing about it."

"My job is to play basketball," Ball said when asked about having a preference for playing for certain coaches. "I don't decide who coaches."



Walton disagreed with LaVar's latest criticism of the Lakers coach, whose team has lost 12 of its past 13 games. Walton, who said on Friday morning that he is not coaching as if his job is on the line, was asked whether he has received assurances from anyone in Lakers upper management.

"Yeah. We're, I feel, very secure in my job status right now," Walton said. "We talk all the time. They're 100 percent behind and supporting what we're doing."

Lakers majority owner Jeanie Buss tweeted strong support with the hashtag "InLukeWeTrust" on New Year's Eve, and all indications have been that Walton's job security is not an issue.?A Lakers source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne that Walton's job status is "not even a conversation."

This, though, is not the first time LaVar Ball has been critical of Walton's coaching. The elder Ball has said that the Lakers' coaching staff is "soft" and doesn't know how to coach his son, and he expressed his displeasure with how Walton was using his son in the fourth quarter of games.

The Lakers already have held a meeting with the elder Ball and asked him to tone down his criticisms of Walton to foster a better atmosphere for Lonzo Ball and continue a positive relationship with the organization.

LaVar Ball's latest comments left the No. 2 overall pick having to answer several questions on Sunday morning about the state of the Lakers' locker room and his relationship with Walton.

"He is going to speak his mind, he is not going to change," said Lonzo Ball, who says he hasn't spoken to LaVar since his father and two brothers landed in Lithuania, where LiAngelo and LaMelo Ball are playing for the pro team Prienu Vytautas."... I don't think [Walton has lost the locker room]. I mean, he's our head coach. We are going to play for him.

"That is just his opinion. He has coached me his whole life. So he is definitely going to have a strong opinion about it. That's just what it is."?

The Lakers (11-27) were competitive to start the season, going 8-10 in their first 18 games. They held a team meeting on Dec. 28 to air out myriad issues, from players who were unhappy about roles, minutes and rotations, to the direction the team is taking with its focus on signing two star free agents next summer.

"I don't see that the players aren't playing hard," Walton said. "I think the players are playing very hard, we've been through a hard stretch, but they are giving us what they have and we're going to keep working and we'll be fine."

"I'm fine with it, it doesn't bother me," Walton said of LaVar Ball's repeated criticism of him. "My only concern with any of it is for Zo. As long as Zo's fine with it and Zo can come out and play, and it doesn't affect mine and his relationship, then it doesn't bother me at all."

Lonzo Ball said he just focuses on playing basketball and that he has told Walton before that his father's comments don't affect him.

Walton was asked whether LaVar Ball's comments could possibly influence what management is thinking about its coach and the team's rebuild.

"I would hope not, but it doesn't influence what we're doing," Walton said of the coaching staff. "I've said all along there's always parents, and parents are going to get mad at things, that's what they do. And it's our job as coaches, and coaches in the organization to do what's best for our team and our players and we make those decisions based on what we see every single day in the facility and on the court."

"I know they have my back," Walton said of Lakers management. "Whatever those meetings [with LaVar Ball in the past] are, I'm not concerned with those. My concerns are coaching our team and prepping for games and working with what gives us the best chance of winning. I know our front office and organization, they'll do whatever they have to do on their end of it, but I'm not spending my time trying to figure out what they're all doing about it. I just know they'll take care of it."
 
Lonzo is right, his dad is a grown man he can say what he wants. The media is the problem, they need to stop interviewing LaVar. He does not play for the Lakers so his opinion should not matter.

The media wants to turn this into a soap opera, they want Lonzo to tell dad to tone it down, and now they’re pressuring Magic to respond to Lavar. Neither one has to do shit, a matter of fact if they don’t do shit and proceed like nothing has been said, Lavar's comments will diminish in value. Lavar thinks Gelo, Lonzo and Lebron can win a ring together, shit that parents say.

I’m less interested in what Labar has to say about Lonzo and more interested in his business moves like the new league. I wish him well. :yes:
 
The media wants to turn this into a soap opera, they want Lonzo to tell dad to tone it down, and now they’re pressuring Magic to respond to Lavar. Neither one has to do shit, a matter of fact if they don’t do shit and proceed like nothing has been said, Lavar's comments will diminish in value. Lavar
thinks Gelo, Lonzo and Lebron can win a ring together, shit that parents say.

I’m less interested in what Labar has to say about Lonzo and more interested in his business moves like the new league. I wish him well. :yes:
Wow :rolleyes:
 
Bruh the Lakers just flat out suck. It's not Waltons fault. They've been putting D(or G) league talent on the floor for at least 2-3 years now.
 
Bruh the Lakers just flat out suck. It's not Waltons fault. They've been putting D(or G) league talent on the floor for at least 2-3 years now.

There is no reason to assume Luke is a competent coach.

He had only ever subbed as coach for a team that has been to 3 straight NBA Finals and won 2 Chips with a back to back MVP on a team that went

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He ain't doing shit sweet with regular talent.

Luke is expendable.
 
There is no reason to assume Luke is a competent coach.

He had only ever subbed as coach for a team that has been to 3 straight NBA Finals and won 2 Chips with a back to back MVP on a team that went

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He ain't doing shit sweet with regular talent.

Luke is expendable.
So is Lonzo and yellow teef :giggle:
 
There is no reason to assume Luke is a competent coach.

He had only ever subbed as coach for a team that has been to 3 straight NBA Finals and won 2 Chips with a back to back MVP on a team that went

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He ain't doing shit sweet with regular talent.

Luke is expendable.
That's what's not being said. He got anointed when he's really fools gold. If he wants to impress me do that shit with a team full of young guns and rookies instead of all stars on a well oiled machine. The dude selling peanuts on the top row could have coached the warriors just as good as Walton did. Now that Walton got to earn that check the coaches union president and the media trying to save his ass.
 
There is no reason to assume Luke is a competent coach.

He had only ever subbed as coach for a team that has been to 3 straight NBA Finals and won 2 Chips with a back to back MVP on a team that went

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He ain't doing shit sweet with regular talent.

Luke is expendable.
They got more invested in Zo than they got in Walton.
 
That's what's not being said. He got anointed when he's really fools gold. If he wants to impress me do that shit with a team full of young guns and rookies instead of all stars on a well oiled machine. The dude selling peanuts on the top row could have coached the warriors just as good as Walton did. Now that Walton got to earn that check the coaches union president and the media trying to save his ass.
True, because every coach in league history who inherits a team of first and second year players, C level vets and a PG who can't fucking shoot is expected to win 60 games in the toughest conference in the league.... Da fuck is Magic thinking, fire him already!?!?!?! :rolleyes:
 
True, because every coach in league history who inherits a team of first and second year players, C level vets and a PG who can't fucking shoot is expected to win 60 games in the toughest conference in the league.... Da fuck is Magic thinking, fire him already!?!?!?! :rolleyes:
But he should at least be able to field a competitive team. His players quit on him multiple times. That's a reflection on him.
Not really... A rookie contract. PG that can't shoot come along every year B :hmm:
Shooting can be corrected but he's got more than shooting going for him and to act like he don't is dishonest at best. How does his other stats compare to the rest of the guards in the league? Rebounding and assists and steals and blocks? He has the best defensive rating on the team by the way and all you ever hear about is his lack of defense. That's funny...
 
But he should at least be able to field a competitive team. His players quit on him multiple times. That's a reflection on him.

Shooting can be corrected but he's got more than shooting going for him and to act like he don't is dishonest at best. How does his other stats compare to the rest of the guards in the league? Rebounding and assists and steals and blocks? He has the best defensive rating on the team by the way and all you ever hear about is his lack of defense. That's funny...
Dude nobody here said a damn thing about the players quitting on him until Lavar said that bullshit, now all of a sudden everybody is parroting that nonsense like y'all have been saying it all season. All due respect but y'all can miss me with this Monday morning QB nonsense. Lonzo is not meeting up to the unrealistic expectations Lavar put on him and Lonzo himself that bullshit Lavar said is not true (even though I'm sure some far fetched conspiracy will be dreamt up as to why he said that) :D

All this other bullshit Lavaris talking is just a feeble attempt to diflect to place blame on someone else for his sons underwhelming play. Same bullshit tactic Trump uses.

Also, while Lonzo does have other skill sets it doesn't negate or offset his pathetic offense or make him untouchable.

There are 2-3 PGs in next years draft I'm sure Magic would let Lonzo walk for if he could get them, and they won't come with this attention whore of a nuisance father as well...

To your point about shooting, coaching and wins can be corrected by giving a coach better players. To expect THIS team to b competitive, especially in the west with as disjointed a line up as they have is ridiculous. They are performing exactly how that lineup should.
 
It's a good thing I ain't mentioned his dad yet. In fact I've only mentioned how the media and coaches are trying to save Waltons ass from rightful scrutiny. How his team had quit on him and yes it has been mentioned before about how his team quit on him and the team skipped practice to call a team meeting to air out grievances with the coach the day before Lavar (now I'm mentioning him) even made that last statement about him.

It's been mentioned by folks on this board in other threads how it looks like certain players quit on the coach. I understand you dont like Balls father but don't let that stand in the way of evaluating the team situation for what it is. Failure starts at the top not the bottom. It starts with poor leadership. Your team is expected to be competitive every time they lace up. They may not be expected to win but they are expected to compete and if they don't it's the coaches fault for not making sure they got the right mind set.
 
It's a good thing I ain't mentioned his dad yet. In fact I've only mentioned how the media and coaches are trying to save Waltons ass from rightful scrutiny. How his team had quit on him and yes it has been mentioned before about how his team quit on him and the team skipped practice to call a team meeting to air out grievances with the coach the day before Lavar (now I'm mentioning him) even made that last statement about him.

It's been mentioned by folks on this board in other threads how it looks like certain players quit on the coach. I understand you dont like Balls father but don't let that stand in the way of evaluating the team situation for what it is. Failure starts at the top not the bottom. It starts with poor leadership. Your team is expected to be competitive every time they lace up. They may not be expected to win but they are expected to compete and if they don't it's the coaches fault for not making sure they got the right mind set.
Not sure if you are responding to my post but let me be clear, I don't dislike or like Lavar, I don't know him. I speak to things and actions based on how I see them and again, all this team has quit on Walton rhetoric started here with Lavars bullshit statement which has been discredited by his own son. Again, no one mentioned them quitting, etc. especially in full force until now all of a sudden.

What do other coaches gain from 'saving Waltons ass'!?!?! More parroted nonsense in my opinion. Carlisle is the head of the Coaches association and it was his right to speak the way he did. All of this top to bottom leadership stuff is nonsense in this context, you could give the greatest coach in NBA history a bum team and with all of his leadership qualities they would still be bums. I do understand the team for what it is and I also understand you don't fire a coach when he has so much youth and inexperience to work with. The same way everyone is preaching patience etc concerning Lonzo is the same thing Walton should be offered. The approach to Walton is biased as fuck, just like all the plea copping for Lonzo and the tolerance for Lavar is. If Lavar was a white parent of a player doing all this bullshit attention whoring BGOL would be in an uproar Bruh and you know it.

All Lavar is doing is making the sand in Lonzo's hourglass run faster and I feel bad for the kid. Mark my words, if he doesn't improve to major star level by end of year two he will not be extended and other teams will be leery of dealing with the circus he comes with to no fault of his own.
 
You said what you said and I said what I said. Neither one of us is a paid commentator or have an expert opinion. Therefore mine is just as valid as yours. Period. Now come the end of the season we will see whos wrong and who's right. Until then....it is what it is... Pun intended.
 
You said what you said and I said what I said. Neither one of us is a paid commentator or have an expert opinion. Therefore mine is just as valid as yours. Period. Now come the end of the season we will see whos wrong and who's right. Until then....it is what it is... Pun intended.
this whole dynamic doesnt require being an expert bruh, no one said your opinion wasnt valid either. My point has been consistent for months. Yours adds layers as Lavar presents them....

No need to get defensive tho Dude, youre right, it is what it is...

Enjoy your Day :cheers:
 
Y'all realize ESPN played you with this stupid story just to stir shit up. In the SAME interview where Lavar made the headlined comments, he also says the exact opposite...

"...On camera, what follows Goodman’s prompt is a ragged symphony of caveats, disclaimers, and attempts at retreat from Ball, reminders that he is just voicing his perception as an outsider and has no special insight into the Lakers’ internal dynamics. What emerges from this is the altogether milder take that “I’ve always said, when you lose by 20 and 30 and you’re talking about boys, you don’t want to play for me or you don’t want to play. So I tell ‘em that’s a pride thing.” Not for nothing, but a few seconds later, Ball also says the following, out loud, word for word, at exactly the 10:50 mark in the video: “They probably want to play for him as hard as they can.”

https://deadspin.com/espn-its-bad-that-we-keep-squeezing-juicy-quotes-out-o-1821950556
 
Y'all realize ESPN played you with this stupid story just to stir shit up. In the SAME interview where Lavar made the headlined comments, he also says the exact opposite...

"...On camera, what follows Goodman’s prompt is a ragged symphony of caveats, disclaimers, and attempts at retreat from Ball, reminders that he is just voicing his perception as an outsider and has no special insight into the Lakers’ internal dynamics. What emerges from this is the altogether milder take that “I’ve always said, when you lose by 20 and 30 and you’re talking about boys, you don’t want to play for me or you don’t want to play. So I tell ‘em that’s a pride thing.” Not for nothing, but a few seconds later, Ball also says the following, out loud, word for word, at exactly the 10:50 mark in the video: “They probably want to play for him as hard as they can.”

https://deadspin.com/espn-its-bad-that-we-keep-squeezing-juicy-quotes-out-o-1821950556

This whole thing is bullshit.

Is Luke complaining?

Not publically cause somebody has talked to him about his job security. Someone who matters in the Lakers organization not the father of a rookie on the outside.

This was never a story.

Luke is probably not the future coach of the Lakers. He is just that coach until they get better. How many coaches have the Lakers had in the last 6 or 7 seasons? Five since 2011.
 
You said what you said and I said what I said. Neither one of us is a paid commentator or have an expert opinion. Therefore mine is just as valid as yours. Period. Now come the end of the season we will see whos wrong and who's right. Until then....it is what it is... Pun intended.
Peace God

What's been good has been gravy

U ether'd she is what she is

He didn't even do his usual lil fella and other fuckery he does to belittle other grown men.

He instantly became beta to a Alpha
 
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