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Ladies, is it still considered good dick if you don't reach an orgasm?
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It could be.
I have to c/s LI's views in this thread.
Remember when you were a kid eating those Italian Icees in the cup. You knew there was that extra sugary sweet ice at the bottom of the cup. Some kids only wanted to get to that sugary part at the bottom so they would concentrate all their energy trying to flip the ice over in the cup. Me, I liked to savor the whole thing. I'll get there, but if I don't I can enjoy the sights and sounds as well. But like someone said, just as long as it's not a habit
Tihssssss is exactly what i'm talking about. I think women kind of do themselves a disservice and maybe their partners too, by not savoring that flavor. By not sitting back and just enjoying every single stroke. I think and this is not a knock on anybody, i think it's because so few women have been in relationships or had sexual experiences that allowed this type of knowledge.
I'm going to make a confession...I've never had this elusive vaginal orgasm that people speak of I need direct clitoral stimulation to cum. So that being said I don't get there through intercourse every time, but my sex doesn't leave me feeling disappointed (at least what I'm having now lol)
I feel like I can whip out a vibrator and have an orgasm, but the stroking and the kissing and everything that goes with the sex is what makes the experience for me.
I feel like I can whip out a vibrator and have an orgasm, but the stroking and the kissing and everything that goes with the sex is what makes the experience for me.
I don't think it's a lack of experience. As I said, I want to ride the coaster lowest nasty low and highest high,not be on cruise control (as pleasant as that may be). My most sexually satisfying relationships were so because I could count on cumming 99.99% of the time- damn near a flawless execution on both our parts.Orgasms make me happy
However I see your point LI, but I think a lot of women who do not orgasm use the "well it's still good" thing as a crutch. In some surveys as many as 60% of women report being non-orgasmic and that's sad because they are still missing part of the full range of sexual expression.
Did someone play Backstroke?
*dances
*dances
I don't think it's a lack of experience. As I said, I want to ride the coaster lowest nasty low and highest high,not be on cruise control (as pleasant as that may be). My most sexually satisfying relationships were so because I could count on cumming 99.99% of the time- damn near a flawless execution on both our parts.Orgasms make me happy
However I see your point LI, but I think a lot of women who do not orgasm use the "well it's still good" thing as a crutch. In some surveys as many as 60% of women report being non-orgasmic and that's sad because they are still missing part of the full range of sexual expression.
lol we're in agreement mizz Iz. And i agree with you about the women who don't have orgasm. Once again, women learning to maintain and accept what's given.
I mean like fucking, n playing - all that good stuff. Not including the quick snack and a nap and repeat. But yes you can literally fuck for like 60 minuets or more straight...It's fun.
I still enjoy those type days.
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More like inexperienced male braggadocio!
Sexual experience alone would have readily told him that NOT ALL women are that easily bought to orgasm! There isn't any simple formula to make all women reach orgasm.
In my sexual experiences,while there are some women who can easily reach orgasm from dicking and licking,there are still others for whatever reason,who have either a mental or physical block that prohibits them from reaching orgasm even after an exhaustive sex session.
Sometimes it's not for lack of trying on the mans part.
That doesn't mean that man didn't give her some good dick!
More like inexperienced male braggadocio!
Sexual experience alone would have readily told him that NOT ALL women are that easily bought to orgasm! There isn't any simple formula to make all women reach orgasm.
In my sexual experiences,while there are some women who can easily reach orgasm from dicking and licking,there are still others for whatever reason,who have either a mental or physical block that prohibits them from reaching orgasm even after an exhaustive sex session.
Sometimes it's not for lack of trying on the mans part.
I disagree on the first part Clarke. Spanish is basically asserting his desire to give women a peak sexual moment. What's wrong with that? See this is the difference between women and men that irks the shit out of me. 9/10 a man doesn't enter a sexual liason expecting NOT to climax.
Yes, it might not happen and yeah you might still have a great experience but men at least have a high bar when it comes to having an orgasm. Women however (and some of this I really believe is societal conditioning) often do NOT expect to have an orgasm. I think that lets a lot of poor communication habits on both the male and female sides off the hook.Agree with you some womens' pussies are like a Rubiks cube- it may take a lot of time, communication, finesse, and intelligence to get her to cum, but that doesn't mean her partner should stop trying, pat her on the head, and be like "oh well baby at least you smiled real wide while I was dicking you down. "
Like I said before, if a woman does not have a medical or organic problem why should she not experience the full range of sexual pleasure (at least often, though not everytime)?
Did you know, women in lesbian relationships report less sexual dysfunction (orgasmic phase disorders) than women in hetero relationships?
I'm not sure why, and I'm not interested in finding out, but I think that points to some larger communication and physical intimacy issues. Also, as you mentioned psychological issues. Those issues need to be dealt with, because she is cheating herself by ignoring them.
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wot if yor sukin his dik for like 2 awers and dude aint showin eny sinez uv cummin enytam soon, by the way heez hard so itz not like he haz ED or nuthin, enyway, den u start jakin him awf for like 1 awer and 27 minits and nuthin yet?Maybe.
I don't think I'd let him get away unscathed! Blow job, hand job something.
That's an ego blow for us as much as for men. Especially if you came a lot. Nobody wants to feel like they didn't give their partner equal fantastic pleasure.
Wot den?
wot if yor sukin his dik for like 2 awers and dude aint showin eny sinez uv cummin enytam soon, by the way heez hard so itz not like he haz ED or nuthin, enyway, den u start jakin him awf for like 1 awer and 27 minits and nuthin yet?
Wot den?
Then I rub him all over with lasagna and let 5 frisky kittens nibble on his toes while I do handstands wearing leather chaps and a beret.
That always does it.
More like inexperienced male braggadocio!
Sexual experience alone would have readily told him that NOT ALL women are that easily bought to orgasm! There isn't any simple formula to make all women reach orgasm.
In my sexual experiences,while there are some women who can easily reach orgasm from dicking and licking,there are still others for whatever reason,who have either a mental or physical block that prohibits them from reaching orgasm even after an exhaustive sex session.
Sometimes it's not for lack of trying on the mans part.
I'm very experienced and I'm not the bragging type. I know that every chick's body is different and some orgasm easier than others. Some need a little more. Some need a little less. I'm not gonna sit here and say I've made every chick I've been wit Cum/Orgasm every time, cuz its not true. But my goal is to make her nut, Period. So I use those tools (finger, tongue, dick, toys,pull her hair ect) to get her there.
And your right there are things that get in the way be it "mental or physical". That's why women need to learn their bodies. Learn their pussies. Learn what feels good.
Cuz if they don't know their bodies a man sure as hell isn't gonna know either.
========================================================I disagree on the first part Clarke. Spanish is basically asserting his desire to give women a peak sexual moment. What's wrong with that? See this is the difference between women and men that irks the shit out of me. 9/10 a man doesn't enter a sexual liason expecting NOT to climax.
Agree with you some womens' pussies are like a Rubiks cube- it may take a lot of time, communication, finesse, and intelligence to get her to cum, but that doesn't mean her partner should stop trying, pat her on the head, and be like "oh well baby at least you smiled real wide while I was dicking you down. "
Like I said before, if a woman does not have a medical or organic problem why should she not experience the full range of sexual pleasure (at least often, though not everytime)?
Did you know, women in lesbian relationships report less sexual dysfunction (orgasmic phase disorders) than women in hetero relationships?
I have absolutely nothing against anyone's eagerness to please. My point was that it is pollyanna-ish to think all the tongue and dick in the world can make any AND every woman come just by sheer will power. Heck, it is nice to want to help your partner achieve an orgasm and I WANT my partner to reach orgasm as well!
You mentioned that 9 of 10 men come in expecting to get a nut but it is not so much that they are expecting a nut,it's just that it is pretty much known to men that a male orgasm will happen fairly easily unless he is uncomfortable with who and what he is screwing. I say that confidently based on the reality of our exclusive physiologies,both male and female. Men come, then need to regenerate ( In most cases). Again most Women can cum,over and over in rapid succession. Those are pretty much fact. It is also a fact in most cases that men can reach orgasm easier, and more quickly that most women.
I personally could care less about lesbian relationships and their stats. I am a man but I will say again that I still feel women bring baggage into their relationships AND to their sexual lives. MAYBE, those sisters who chase pussy have no baggage towards their female sexual partners that would prohibit them from freely reaching orgasm, OR simply a woman would instinctively know where or how to please another woman..In the second case, maybe the woman isn't explaining to her man clearly what needs to be done to please her, or he is just wack!
What I stated earlier does not run contrary to a woman right to a fulfilling sexual pleasure. I will repeat again-I want to please my partner to come and all men should as well, but by no means is a man a failure, or not a proficient lover if he cannot make his woman orgasm each time, over and over again.
Conversely, some would say that women should not be so full of themselves to overestimate their sexual prowess or their ability to please a man simply because he came while fucking them either. Like I said earlier a man's nut is a forgone conclusion in most cases, and that men judge a womans sexual skill,on more than being able to cross the finish line, but how he got there!
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I feel you and get your point fam!! That should be every mans goal.
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I have absolutely nothing against anyone's eagerness to please. My point was that it is pollyanna-ish to think all the tongue and dick in the world can make any AND every woman come just by sheer will power. Heck, it is nice to want to help your partner achieve an orgasm and I WANT my partner to reach orgasm as well!
You mentioned that 9 of 10 men come in expecting to get a nut but it is not so much that they are expecting a nut,it's just that it is pretty much known to men that a male orgasm will happen fairly easily unless he is uncomfortable with who and what he is screwing. I say that confidently based on the reality of our exclusive physiologies,both male and female. Men come, then need to regenerate ( In most cases). Again most Women can cum,over and over in rapid succession. Those are pretty much fact. It is also a fact in most cases that men can reach orgasm easier, and more quickly that most women.
I personally could care less about lesbian relationships and their stats. I am a man but I will say again that I still feel women bring baggage into their relationships AND to their sexual lives. MAYBE, those sisters who chase pussy have no baggage towards their female sexual partners that would prohibit them from freely reaching orgasm, OR simply a woman would instinctively know where or how to please another woman..In the second case, maybe the woman isn't explaining to her man clearly what needs to be done to please her, or he is just wack!
What I stated earlier does not run contrary to a woman right to a fulfilling sexual pleasure. I will repeat again-I want to please my partner to come and all men should as well, but by no means is a man a failure, or not a proficient lover if he cannot make his woman orgasm each time, over and over again.
Conversely, some would say that women should not be so full of themselves to overestimate their sexual prowess or their ability to please a man simply because he came while fucking them either. Like I said earlier a man's nut is a forgone conclusion in most cases, and that men judge a womans sexual skill,on more than being able to cross the finish line, but how he got there!
C/S
There is a lot of pressure on men to make a woman cum. And if a man does not fulfill that request he IS in a lot of cases looked at like a failure or his dick game is wack. (This view is probably where my by any mean necessary attitude comes from....Nobdody wants to be the wack dick dude
) Which might not be the case. Good Sex can be just good sex. We all want the "Big O" But some ladies don't get there and expect the man to do all the work. They Gotta rub their own clit, and grind them hips in order to cum. Learn that body!
I disagree on the first part Clarke. Spanish is basically asserting his desire to give women a peak sexual moment. What's wrong with that? See this is the difference between women and men that irks the shit out of me. 9/10 a man doesn't enter a sexual liason expecting NOT to climax.
Agree with you some womens' pussies are like a Rubiks cube- it may take a lot of time, communication, finesse, and intelligence to get her to cum, but that doesn't mean her partner should stop trying, pat her on the head, and be like "oh well baby at least you smiled real wide while I was dicking you down. "
Like I said before, if a woman does not have a medical or organic problem why should she not experience the full range of sexual pleasure (at least often, though not everytime)?
Did you know, women in lesbian relationships report less sexual dysfunction (orgasmic phase disorders) than women in hetero relationships?
Izzy, I agree 100% Just from conversations I've had with previous sex partners, I can tell you why it don't happen for women. We men sometimes have a distorted approach to sex. I'm not sure where it comes from. Talking with the guys, watching too much porn is probably just the start. But I'm sure you've heard the term pussy is pussy. Although true its so simplified its totally wrong.
Every pussy is different. Pleasure spots vary with every woman and I've known women who said they never had an orgasm. Some guys never take the time to learn their woman's bodies. An they don't understand how to use their dicks.
Here's an example this woman divorced had 4 kids all grown. Had never had an orgasm except with a vibrator or her own hand. Said she enjoyed sex just never orgasmed but "the sex was good." She said her husband was big and would just thrust away until he came always leaving her hanging. But again she said she enjoyed the sex. Really? Maybe it was the attention she loved.
We eventually hooked up and yeah she came. The difference her pleasure zones weren't deep they were very shallow. If fact a huge G-spot he always missed. 22 years and this guy never realized or learned where her hot spots were. I learned them in one afternoon.
I'm not bragging on myself but just like Capt Kirk didn't believe in no win scenarios, I don't believe in non-orgasmic women. But I know guys don't pay attention. That's the basis of the problem. They want to get theirs and move on.
Plus people don't fuck for love or appreciation anymore they're just fucking to be fucking. If the love was really there the understanding and caring would be there.
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Now on to (some of) you ladies yeah you too are at fault. Having read what I typed above and now having this knowledge, what do you do? Stop being passive. Get selfish with it put that man on his back climb on top and focus only on yourself. GET YOURS! You got to want it. I mean get up there and fuck yourself. Go get it! If you don't want it it won't happen. Look to please yourself first then worry about him.
Also work at educating your mate, he don't know. Teach him show him wake his ass up. You owe it to yourselves. We owe it to each other to be open about shat we want and need.
I can agree with that. That's why I mentioned communication is key. It's not solely the man's responsibility, but his willingness to please, learn, listen, and communicate plays a big part. You can't just write a woman's ability to climax off because it didn't happen the first time, second time or fifth time and then say whatever.
Like I said earlier a man's nut is a forgone conclusion in most cases, and that men judge a womans sexual skill,on more than being able to cross the finish line, but how he got there!
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True!..and sometimes a woman just is blessed with a very nicely upholstered pussy. Prowess is subjective in all cases.
c/s
See you hit all the right spots
1) Dick Mismanagement
2) Lack of caring and concern
3) Failure to communicate
4) Passivity
5) Lack of self-knowledge about your body
All of the above = No orgasm.
I also don't believe women are inherently non-orgasmic. That's the above and other mind things not a faulty vagina.
C/S
There is a lot of pressure on men to make a woman cum. And if a man does not fulfill that request he IS in a lot of cases looked at like a failure or his dick game is wack. (This view is probably where my by any mean necessary attitude comes from....Nobdody wants to be the wack dick dude
C/S
There is a lot of pressure on men to make a woman cum. And if a man does not fulfill that request he IS in a lot of cases looked at like a failure or his dick game is wack. (This view is probably where my by any mean necessary attitude comes from....Nobdody wants to be the wack dick dude
The bottom line in all this is women need to take responsibility for getting their own orgasms. Whatever it takes, I know many here do. It is not always the man's fault women don't cum. It really doesn't matter if the dick is good or not although I'm sure the better dick makes it easier for them to get there.
Its no different for us all pussy is not created equal. Some are incredibly tight and wet (I love those) while others you can just drop right in. Now guess which one feels better to men. They both will feel good but that first one will get you every time. The second type means you have to work a little harder to get there.
Not reading all the responses because I dont care about no ones but mine....Answering the title question.......
NO! I am 35 you wanna fuck to bust? SO DO I!!!!!!!!
Cute response but the question was not answered. Is it still considered good dick if you don't reach an orgasm? It can happen.
What do you want a vote? lol every woman answered her own idea. so it was answered tho.
I did answer it sir...I said NO!
Sorry I wasn't prepared to take "no" as an answer.
By saying no your blaming the man.
lol
I recently discussed this with a lady friend. Her response was, everyone is responsible for their own orgasms.
She said when she gets on top that's for her benefit. Not only can she control the action but she can work her pussy the was she likes so she can get hers.
She then said any woman who lays on her back waiting on a man to give them an orgasm will be disappointed.
Know what? She's right!
She said when she gets on top that's for her benefit. Not only can she control the action but she can work her pussy the was she likes so she can get hers.
She then said any woman who lays on her back waiting on a man to give them an orgasm will be disappointed.
Know what? She's right!
Absolutely. Just because you don't orgasm at the end doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the ride while it lasted. Now it won't make top 5 but it can still be considered good.
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