Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Good

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Story by Michael Goins – I was involved in a conversation late last week with a group attending a luncheon focused on opportunities in the workplace. One of the main topics of discussion was African American men with dreadlocks and their career opportunities. To my surprise everyone in the group thought that any black male wearing dreadlocks not only limited his career opportunities to low-wage earning jobs but also doomed his family to a life of poverty. I hadn’t had this sort of conversation before so I was a bit intrigued at the direction in which it was going. See, I hadn’t put any real thought one way or the other into the matter. The concensus in this was that dreadlocks was not the corporate look you want to have when going for that job interview. Made me think when was the last time I saw a black male with dreadlocks wearing a suit or anything but Khakis and a vest. Surely I have seen this somewhere and once I really thought about it I did indeed know a few black men with dreadlocks that wore suits. The irony though, was that all the men worked for some non-profit or black-owned endeavor, or was an athlete or musician. None of them worked in the private sector, which is where most americans earn their living.

I came home later that night with this topic still rattling in my brain and I remembered there was a time when blacks were the trendsetters of fashion and other cultures followed our lead. Dreadlocks is not a look that black males created in their basement. It wasn’t a style that a couple of the “cool dudes” started to wear and everyone else picked it up. The hairstyle is a copy from blacks that live predominately in South America. In this case, blacks are copying a style made popular by another ethnic culture. I thought back to a time when a lof of black men wore afros. It was a natural hairstyle for the time and being so, was accepted in the workplace. The “extreme afro” on the other hand was an oddity at work. Don’t get me wrong though, exteme afro’s where a status symbol in our neighborhood. Mostly wore by young teens and college students. By the time most of these black men left college or entered the workplace, they had left the extremeness of their afros behind for a much smaller size cut that was appropriate for their new corporate lifestyle. The one’s that bucked the trend and retained the larger afros were athletes, musicians or they worked in at a non-profit. If you still had the oversized afro after age thirty or so and was not in the group I just mentioned, you where typically the guy in the neighborhood that really didn’t have a lot going on. You where the fast food worker, the janitor, mechanic, factory or warehouse worker. You were definitely a blue-collar worker in a unionized shop.

I decided to do some research on the topic and discovered some interesting things about dreadlocks in the workplace. A lot of companies consider dreadlocks on men or woman an “extreme hairstyle” that detracts away from the business and brings the focus onto the individual. Many companies have policies against these “extreme hairstyles”. From Blackvoices.. Two women are outraged after they say they were denied jobs at Six Flags because of their dreadlocks in Largo, Md., an area with a 93 percent African American population.

Janet Bello, 23, says when she applied for a part-time job at Six Flags in Largo, she was told her “locks” hairstyle disqualified her from employment.

She says a supervisor told her management is adhering strictly this year to a years-old corporate grooming policy that considers dreadlocks to be an extreme hairstyle. Bello considers the characterization to be offensive:

“I think it’s outrageous, and I really think it’s sad. … I think Six Flags can literally, excuse my French, go to hell.”

ABC 7 News obtained a copy of Six Flags’ grooming standards for employees, which states that the company does not permit “any hairstyle that detracts or takes away from Six Flags’ theme.” Read More of this story..
I came across another article that touted, “How to find a decent job if you wear dreadlocks”. The article noted such jobs as farmhand or ranchand at a nearby farm, stagehand at an arena or theatre. Click here to read more..
At Jackson State University College Of Business, Dreadlocks is an unacceptable business practice. One of the instructors at the school talks about the “dread look” Mercidee Curry, a JSU business instructor said that the corporate environment is very conservative. The industry calls for dark suits, long sleeve shirts, and ties for males. For females, it’s dark dress or pant suits, blouses, and hosiery. “Don’t go with the culture,” said Curry referencing the pop culture attire, “[Students] are going into the corporate world where everything is still conservative.”Bill Iupe, a partner with Carr, Riggs, and Ingram, LLC, agrees with Curry and said the importance of dressing professionally should not be taken lightly.

“Not only the type of hairstyle,” says Iupe, “But the total appearance plays a part in the hiring process.” Christopher Gibson, a junior accounting student, has dreadlocks and believes it not a big issue of what type of hairstyle he has. However, he says he will get a low haircut at the appropriate time. Click here to read more of this story

Article after article that I came across in my search was anti dreadlock in the workplace. The jobs that appeared to have an acceptance of the dreadlock look were non-professional positions that one would have a difficult time supporting a family on. So this articles title, If you date a man with dreadlocks -Your financial future doesn’t look good is a title that at least warrants some consideration if you are in a relationship with someone that sports dreadlocks. Of course from what the research shows, if your life is about quality of living and you want to be with someone that can help provide that for you and the kids, you may have to rethink that guy you have your eye on with the long locks.. unless of course he is a million dollar athlete, musician or business owner. If your life is about finding that true love, then be damn the money, be broke, -and live happily ever after.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I think it depends alot on the location.

It may be more acceptable in NYC or LA but not in middle America.

Although I can't think of any executives with dreadlocks, just admins, mailroom clerks, deliverymen, etc.... :dunno: It shouldn't be the case, but white people are fickle like that and are all about the company "image".

I'm guilty of cutting my long hair to improve job prospects. I used to cut it then grow it back once hired. With dreads, that's a different story since it takes so much time and work to achieve a nice head of locks. And alot grow them because of religious purpose.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

how does this affect HER financial future? :confused:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

how does this affect HER financial future? :confused:
look guys back when threr were alot of good factory jobs this kind of stuff was ok for ordinary guys but those times are gone . i was the pres for my union for about 8 yrs and this kind of thing came up from time to time one group of yuong black men who were correction officers wanted to wear braids in the prison and couldnt understand why i was against it but ther were white guys who were housing inspectors who wanted to wear bar t shirts and weed t shirts to go to folks house and tell them to clean up.so some times it goes both ways but i have to admit when i see a dude with dreads i think bum,i not proud of that thought but i thinking it .so i i were hiring someone that person now has a handcap
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I think it depends alot on the location.

It may be more acceptable in NYC or LA but not in middle America.

Although I can't think of any executives with dreadlocks, just admins, mailroom clerks, deliverymen, etc.... :dunno: It shouldn't be the case, but white people are fickle like that and are all about the company "image".

I'm guilty of cutting my long hair to improve job prospects. I used to cut it then grow it back once hired. With dreads, that's a different story since it takes so much time and work to achieve a nice head of locks. And alot grow them because of religious purpose.

Basically

Its the same thing with excessive tatoos. If you gon have some long hair or body art you better be getting a job in the creative world or run your own business.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Interesting read. I think it goes the same for cornrows and tattoos as well. It gives the impression that the person is limited social and intellectually. I find that people who tend to "look" trendy are often less motivated or innovative than those who march to their own beat. Chicks with the same outfits on or same hairdos often exhibit similar whack qualities. Same goes with men. Whenever i see a dude pulling his pants up ever few minutes, or sagging them, or even rocking a silly haircut, it doesn't make him come off as someone who wants to get ahead, but for rules to bend when it comes to him. Hire him, then ask him to not do something like wear a picked out afro, or cornrows, or show his tattoos, and he thinks you are against his freedom of expression, when his identity is often borrowed. So, dreads can and always will have an affect.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

black people should be very vocal in not allowing the white corporate system to outlaw our hairstyles. dreads, braids, etc. have been around for thousands of years and there is zero reason you can't work in 99.99% of jobs with them. associating say braids with being a "thug" is racism, pure and simple.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Blah when I was in DC i saw black dudes easily pushing high 5 figures to low 6 figure jobs with foot long dreads
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Very interesting read and it hits home with me now wearing Locs, Im involved in a Non-profit venture that is minority based and I have been granted a contract that will allow me to provide services and collect a lions share of the pay.

How old is this study?
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Blah when I was in DC i saw black dudes easily pushing high 5 figures to low 6 figure jobs with foot long dreads

You're right but that's DC, the world is bigger than DC.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

How tha fuck did tha author come to tha conclusion Blacks got tha dread lock thing from Blacks in South America when tha majority of Blacks don't even know that Blacks live in South America???I would have bought tha Bob Marley or Rasta thing if thats what he/she would have said instead.

Thats why Blacks gotta start being employers instead of employees.Whites will find any excuse to not hire you if your Black.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

A banker for instance may not have locks, but somebody that works in IT can. It's all about your career path.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

i got education a good job and locks. i'm valued for my skills.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

unless you a rasta, I don't understand why any black man would grew locks.

all the time and energy it takes to groom locks just ain't worth it.

dudes with dreadlocks spend more time grooming their hair than women:smh::smh:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

like Ross said its about career paths...I have dreads....
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

unless you a rasta, I don't understand why any black man would grew locks.

all the time and energy it takes to groom locks just ain't worth it.

dudes with dreadlocks spend more time grooming their hair than women:smh::smh:
Do you think about anything you type? Ever?
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

unless you a rasta, I don't understand why any black man would grew locks.

all the time and energy it takes to groom locks just ain't worth it.

dudes with dreadlocks spend more time grooming their hair than women:smh::smh:

I know a lot of people from jamaica who HATE locks......They upper class though:dunno:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Locks are natural like a human breathing air and if middle america aka white people dont like it well fuck them and anyone else who doesn't like it.

Black people have to stop caring what they think and just live,if they turn you down for a job,keep pushing and work just that much harder to get where you need to be and want to be.

I was shocked to see the number of family members I have now that have locks,like man you guys aint jamicans we barbadians what the hell is going on here?:lol:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

unless you a rasta, I don't understand why any black man would grew locks.

all the time and energy it takes to groom locks just ain't worth it.

dudes with dreadlocks spend more time grooming their hair than women:smh::smh:

u are 100% wrong my friend.:smh::angry::smh:. had locks for 10 years . 40 $ every month to a month an a 1/2 is way cheaper then a chick that spend any where from 40$ a week to just over a 100$ a month to due her hair....do the math and research first kicko
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Shit, I have locks and I'm a doctor.

Fuck the bullshit, wear your hair how you want.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

When will we realize the game always changes when we finally master that said game. I understand where the lucrative salaries are, but in the end it is about integrity and pride and we shouldn't keep having to play manhunt when we are playing a game of red light green light.

Then again my grandmother always warned me a man will starve to death because of pride and now I see what she meant.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Blah when I was in DC i saw black dudes easily pushing high 5 figures to low 6 figure jobs with foot long dreads

I was thinking the same thing, a good number of lawyers and doctors as well, but then again like someone said earlier it may be more acceptable in places like NY(where I am), LA, DC and a few other places
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Why wouldn't you post this in SOL?
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

look guys back when threr were alot of good factory jobs this kind of stuff was ok for ordinary guys but those times are gone . i was the pres for my union for about 8 yrs and this kind of thing came up from time to time one group of yuong black men who were correction officers wanted to wear braids in the prison and couldnt understand why i was against it but ther were white guys who were housing inspectors who wanted to wear bar t shirts and weed t shirts to go to folks house and tell them to clean up.so some times it goes both ways but i have to admit when i see a dude with dreads i think bum,i not proud of that thought but i thinking it .so i i were hiring someone that person now has a handcap

you sound like a fuckin' cracka.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I don't like it but on the other hand? Hasn't business america always kind of valued short cut hair? Hasn't it always been the case with parents telling their sons to get a haircut to get a decent job?
 
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Bullshit.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I see a lot of thugs with dreads nowadays. My fam has dreads. Depends on the field you're in. If you're in Marketing Industry, or computers you might get away with it. If you're in high end sales, sorry charlie, not gonna fly. You don't see other races with cornrolls or whatever. We can argue all day about cultural identity, but the man that owns the company makes the final decision at the end of the day. And they will use any excuse to excuse your ass. Dreads can be truly beautiful, women love 'em, and hair can be powerful, but there are many downfalls too, and in a corporate environment, they can be more of a hinderance. Clean cut, well spoken never fails. Its about success of you, not your hair. Look the part, get the job, make changes later. I guess dreads would equate to long hair, poney tail on other races. Wouldn't fly for a Bank of American CEO. Wouldn't fly for Colin Powell.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I live in NY i have locks it is still hard, white people at my job ask me all sort of stupid ?s once they got comfortable. I know my hair limits my job opportunities.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

I have dreads, I am in L.A. and I work in I.T......:lol::lol: man I fit some of these descriptions to a T......

Bottom line is when I first decided to grow my dreads just last year, I was afraid of what I would be up against going from a Fresh Fade every week to dreads......The bottom line I think to having dreads is keep them as neat as possible. I never let my shit get full of new growth and frizz because I work in white corporate america..........Also got to keep them clean do not want your hair smelling......As long as you keep your hair neat and clean FUCK what anybody else thinks about it, people are to damn shallow it's just hair..........This beautiful sista is who inspired me she told me she works in corporate america and rocks her locks with pride, I love this woman :eek:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

When I used to be a hiring manager I automatically disqualified any males with dreads regardless of their qualification or capacity to perform the job. There wasn't a corporate policy against dreads but personally I find niggas with dreads to be disgusting. Ofcourse I had to make an argument against the prospective employee that had nothing to do with his dreads :puke:
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

the author said that blacks get their locks from south americans....yeah thats bullshit. well i have locks and I never had any problems interviewing for the job (shit i got the job) and a couple of my friends have locks as well and they work those corporate jobs that supposedly dont hire individuals with locks.
 
Re: Ladies - If You Date A Man With Dreadlocks -Your Financial Future Doesn’t Look Go

Mane, CACs love dreads more than black folks, dont believe the hype. The reality of the situation was stated before, if white folks dont want to hire you then they will not and it's that simple..dreads or not. Matter of fact i have had CACs choose a brotha with dreads over me with a fade based on the cool factor of "dreads."

CACs simply play games of divide and conquer by any means. Just do you at all time folks cause any man trying to please another man aint a man, he's a SLAVE.
 
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