Kyrie Irving requesting trade out of Cleveland to find bigger role
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No doubt, it's not about what the Spurs are considered but Leonard's personality and approach. Leonard played his ass off, won finals MVP and still never game the impression they he was on some sort of God trip. Leonard appears to be the type of player who will continue to do his thing even if Kyrie becomes a bigger than life member of the Spurs, and not take to Twitter or interviews subliminally bitching. They can definitely co-exist because Leonard's personality is polar opposite to Kyrie. Doesn't appear to need to be the alpha male...
He doesn't want to play in Denver
Ok I see the you passively/aggressively hating on LeBron and trolling now
. And somehow your turning this into a conversation about Leonard and not one about Kyrie Irving. It's not about how Leonard can adjust to Kyrie it's if the Spurs want to put up with Kyrie's bullshit. Kyrie is the one that wants to be traded to the Knicks instead of compete for a championship
Kyrie is the one that wants to be the "focal point of the offense". Although in a way he already is.
Kyrie is the one that had maturity issues and has been known to stay out late and party on a yatch full of white bitches
Kyrie is the one that has problems deferring to a player even though the said player will help you win big ala Brom in Cleveland now and Kevin Durant when they was playing USA Basketball.
That's probably what they waiting on. If he would have asked sooner the Cavs could have traded Kyrir for Isaiah Thomas straight up and give us that Top 3 pick
I'm really not Dude. It is what if is. Funny how when someone doesn't worship Dude they are hating on him? News flash bruh, LeBron is an amazing player but he's not perfect and every time someone has a beef with him it is not always 100% their fault and LeBron isn't always the victim.Ok I see the you passively/aggressively hating on LeBron and trolling now
Kyrie is the one that wants to be traded to the Knicks instead of compete for a championship
Kyrie is the one that wants to be the "focal point of the offense". Although in a way he already is.
Kyrie is the one that had maturity issues and has been known to stay out late and party on a yatch full of white bitches
Kyrie is the one that has problems deferring to a player even though the said player will help you win big ala Brom in Cleveland now and Kevin Durant when they was playing USA Basketball.
That being said, Leonard and LeBrons personalities and approaches are completely different and that is conducive to Kyrie having a better dynamic with Leonard as opposed to LeBron...
dude has 3 years left on his contract including this upcoming season and he doesn't have a no-trade clause...cavs can ship him wherever they damn please...if it's true they had something in the works w/ phoenix then make that shit happen and end this bullshit
Criticizing Lebron is one thing, but you are relentless with the criticizism. Every day, every NBA thread, its the same thing over and over again. It's one thing to critique, but to go after him day after day is a clear sign that you have issues with dude.
Why is this 24 pages
Was hoping somebody was getting ocked
Was hoping somebody was getting ocked
Fuck outta here "need to be the alpha male". Sometimes you gotta stay in yo lane as old man Ball would say. LeBron is alpha male and when he was the "focal point" of the Cavs offense they wasn't shit.
Your hating on LeBron because somehow you've twisted the narrative into pretty much how Leonard and Pop will put up with Irving's bullshit. Ain't no scenario where the Cavs give up Irving without getting Leonard
He's a huge LeBron troll. His teams are the Eagles and Sixers he doesn't have anything else going on
I wouldn't give up Josh Jackson
That's way too much. Look at what Chicago got and he had years left.
All due respect Bruh but I've also created threads celebrating his accomplishments and good points as well. I'm just objective and can speak to positives and negatives. I don't invent new scenarios to speak negatively against him, and this thread is ongoing so what I've been speaking of is in the context of one topic which is still open. I don't have an issue with him, don't know him. But it is annoying with him always playing the innocent victim role with his passive aggressive bullshit, when what he's mad at Kyrie for he has a history of doing.
Hypocritical bullshit that I have no problem calling him on...
I'm a huge troll because I don't kiss his ass?!?!? That whole approach is real tender Bruh.... Didn't know because someone has an objective opinion about someone it makes them a troll. Glad you cleared up the mental levels of a lot of LeBron fans here. Sorry I upset you by not kissing his ass and actual speaking my opinions
Even tho Kyrie is acting like he's on his period right now you have to understand your getting a proven Top 3 Guard who is only 25. Josh Jackson would have to be included. Kyrie is the best player to be on the trade market in quite some time
Who defines a 'lane. If he wants to do his own thing that's his opinion and career choice. I haven't twisted shit I'm speaking my viewpoint. You guys worship LeBron so much it's sickening really. If Kyrie doesn't want to play in his shadow anymore then he shouldn't have to, but that stay in your lane bullshit you are talking is hilarious...
So LeBron and his fans are butthurt because Kyrie wants to do him?!?!? Wow...
No he's not
He's not better than Jimmy Butler
Butler is also a all NBA defender
Kyrie scores, he's not a play maker he doesn't pick up assist.
He's also not better than Chris Paul, who covers all aspects, defense, scoring(if need be) and getting teammates involved
Bledsoe>>> dragic
I'm a huge troll because I don't kiss his ass?!?!? That whole approach is real tender Bruh.... Didn't know because someone has an objective opinion about someone it makes them a troll. Glad you cleared up the mental levels of a lot of LeBron fans here. Sorry I upset you by not kissing his ass and actual speaking my opinions
it's not about kissing ass somehow you've got it in your mind that it is plausible a top 3 guard that has been to the finals 3 straight times and has a championship wants to be traded and has THE NEW YORK KNICKS AS ONE OF HIS PREFERRED DESTINATIONS.You pretty much saying Leonard will be cool with this nigga shooting 50 shots a game to pad his stats. I like how you ignored that this was his case with Durant during USA Basketball also.
As far as free agents go he's the best that I can remember. He's better long term just based on the fact that he is younger than both Paul and Butler and has two years on his.contract.
And u are assuming that what he will do. Again all of your responses bleed all of the responsibility for this fallout on Kyrie. Not one mention of the fact that in some ways LeBron could be fucked up and have a part in this.
You pretty much saying Leonard will be cool with this nigga shooting 50 shots a game to pad his stats. I like how you ignored that this was his case with Durant during USA Basketball also.
I have absolutely no problem with a 25 year old player wanting to go somewhere, maybe not the best situation right now and maybe build something while building his own legacy and not have it tied to someone else. Not every player needs to go to ready made teams with stars in tow to succeed. Some like the challenge of making something out of nothing
I got a 4 way that works. It's Cry me to the Spurs, LA to NY, Mello to the Cavs, Love to the Blazers, Evan Tyrner and Parker to the Spurs, and the spurs Absorb JR with Ed Davis going to the spurs to make it work. Cavs loose/dump the guys Bronze doesn't want and go for broke with an old school squad
Again somehow this must be LeBron's fault. That train is never late
. The only thing LeBron could have done was go somewhere else next year....BUT THEN YOU WOULD GET EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT AND BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THE OFFENSE Dude look. Kyrie is a baller period. I believe if he didn't get hurt that first year in the finals the Cavs probably woukd have won another title. He is a rookie of the year, all star, Olympian etc. But he might have his priorities mixed up. Like I said the only problem I have is the timing of the trade. Ask for that after the finals.
As far as making something out of nothing that's whore shit. Ain't nobody gonna want to play for you if you salty at Kevin Durant or LeBron James getting alittle more shine than you. He bout to find out he ain't Kobe.
Passive aggressive response just like him. Lol!Again somehow this must be LeBron's fault. That train is never late
Dude look. Kyrie is a baller period. I believe if he didn't get hurt that first year in the finals the Cavs probably woukd have won another title. He is a rookie of the year, all star, Olympian etc. But he might have his priorities mixed up. Like I said the only problem I have is the timing of the trade. Ask for that after the finals.
As far as making something out of nothing that's whore shit. Ain't nobody gonna want to play for you if you salty at Kevin Durant or LeBron James getting alittle more shine than you. He bout to find out he ain't Kobe.
Where did I day it was LeBrons fault? I said you are all uptight with Kyries decision and reason as if LeBron had NO fault in why things are the way they are between them. Now are you saying LeBron is completely infallible and this is all one sided to the negative against Kyrie?
It only became public now. Maybe he was still on the fence initially and being in the PG scenario made him say fuck it. If I'm not mistaken, didn't LeBron wait until long after the finals, AND after Wade to a pay cut to announce, not to management but in a long ass letter he was leaving? So, what's the difference?
The difference is LeBron James is a once in a lifetime player that love him or hate him makes the NBA watchable. Cavs wasn't on TV on Christmas when it was just Kyrie on the team. Those are facts not the hypothetical ish you saying.
The fact is they went to three straight finals and if they pull off this trade right might go back with some solid depth and give the Warriors a run for their money.
I'm not uptight about his decision because he does have durability issue I'm mad at the timing.
Humor me I've been ignoring your trolling for a while. What could LeBron said it done to make Kyrie say: "I don't wanna play wit you no more!"
The knew what was up but they was trying to get that front office situation together...actually they knew he was happy last year
I think he might go to the Lakers to get a ring or two but if the Cavs can get a good haul they might fuck around n get enough depth to keep Bron around
If I was the cavs I'd ship him to the lakers just to fuck with Lebron....
Nothing... he's perfect and without flawThe difference is LeBron James is a once in a lifetime player that love him or hate him makes the NBA watchable. Cavs wasn't on TV on Christmas when it was just Kyrie on the team. Those are facts not the hypothetical ish you saying.
The fact is they went to three straight finals and if they pull off this trade right might go back with some solid depth and give the Warriors a run for their money.
I'm not uptight about his decision because he does have durability issue I'm mad at the timing.
Humor me I've been ignoring your trolling for a while. What could LeBron said it done to make Kyrie say: "I don't wanna play wit you no more!"
Also, just so we are clear, LeBrons timing and approach in Miami when he left was all good though right? And if so, why was it all good?
Man if this was Danny Angie he'd get what he got from the nets years ago...
or close to it because they got Paul & KG
Free agent who was trashed by the owner before the series was over...Nothing... he's perfect and without flaw
Also, just so we are clear, LeBrons timing and approach in Miami when he left was all good though right? And if so, why was it all good?
So he couldn't have announced his intentions to his boys or told then sooner so they could make valid decisions? So, leaving Kyrie and the team next year would be different? A lot of excuses are constantly made for LeBrons bullshit and I don't buy all of them. So your contention is, it was cool for LeBron to not even clue his people in, and roll the way he did because of what Riley said, to return to an owner who shit on him and help make that owner billions? Cool... that actually makes a lot of sense Bruh...
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