Kobe drops 62 in 3 qtrs

[cranrab]

Q2 @ the rose garden

so far, juan dixon, steve blake and JJ are PERFECT from the floor when guarded by tobe...

guess we know why the fakers are losing to the 2nd WORST team in the western conference...

BTW, for those people who always allege that the other fakers starters are not aggressive or are scared to shoot, ARE YOU WATCHING?

 

[cranrab]

Q3 in portland

fakers down by 10 entering Q4...

so coach jackson realized that tobe was not up to the challenge of guarding juan dixon and switched him off onto steve blake...

juan dixon is now being guarded by william parker...

the fakers backcourt is STILL getting outplayed by the blazers...

steve blake IS tiring though... so his shots may start to front rim...

on a side note, is it any wonder the blazers are losing so many games when they rely so heavily on 2 euros who can't/don't play D?

khryapa does bring energy and effort to the floor, but he can't/doesn't play D...

przybilla on the other hand, is GARBAGE...

 

[cranrab]

Q4 - game over

some dimwit once requested that i look at what happens to the fakers when tobe has 29 FGAs...

what better time to do that than tonight?

tonight, tobe had 29 FGAs, making only 13 of them... and TRUE to the formula, the fakers LOST because of his GARBAGE play again...



16 missed FGAs, 2 TOs and 5 PFs gave the portland trailblazers 20+ additional possessions...

did i already mention that the trailblazers have the second worst record in the western conference?

tobe got used on D by 4 different players... tobe couldn't guard a glass of warm water, much less juan dixon, who finished 10-15 FGAs...

so tobe cried uncle at halftime and begged to guard steve blake, who finished 7-11 FGAs... when dixon and blake were through with him jarret jack also torched tobe...

when those 3 weren't on the floor to expose tobe's hapless D, ruben patterson came in for some iso work... ruben patterson finished 8-14 FGAs... tobe is CLEARLY a defensive miracle worker...

i already anticipate the herd of excuse-making sheep with their rehearsed cries of "tobe didn't have any help. the other starters weren't aggressive and aren't consistent"

let's see about that:

lamar odom went 6-8 FGAs
william parker went 5-9 FGAs
brian cook went 5-9 FGAs
chris mihm went 6-10 FGAs

WOW... you mean that cast of rejects, wanna-be's, and washouts ALL actually shot OVER 50% tonight? IMPOSSIBLE...



aw, so what? the fakers may have LOST, but at least tobe scored 41 points! that proves that he's the man!

 

[Complex]

Re: Q4 - game over

Break down their record when he shoots over 29 times. See that's what an intelligent person. As opposed to an obviously crazy person hugging on dudes nuts like a bitch. Why are you doing it for the month Why because when he shoots over 29 times, it's no difference in their record. It doesn't support your argument(whatever that is), so you don't post that.

I don't believe you're a scout or whatever the fuck you are, because all you seem to do is watch Laker games I really think you're in a mental institution that has satellite.

Sorry, I'm wrong sometimes...I admit it. Plus I have a life. Mine doesn't revolve around Kobe. Then when I mention it...you run and create topics, however you don't respond to them with the zest for Kobe

And I'm still trying to figure out what's your argument. You're trying to prove that Kobe isn't good? Do you think you're going to change our opinion? Yeah Kobe shouldn't have made those all defensive teams It's obviously something severly imbalanced about you Do you even look at the females up here?

So when knowledgeable basketball people talk about how good Kobe is...it's bullshit right? You're the one who really knows huh You're the God of basketball right? Bill Walton called him the best perimeter player in basketball. You know more about basketball than him too right. Still it doesn't mean shit, because it's his opinion. Maybe you need to learn what an opinion is .

 

[xfactor]

Re: Q4 - game over

some dimwit once requested that i look at what happens to the fakers when tobe has 29 FGAs...

what better time to do that than tonight?

tonight, tobe had 29 FGAs, making only 13 of them... and TRUE to the formula, the fakers LOST because of his GARBAGE play again...

tobe got used on D by 4 different players... tobe couldn't guard a glass of warm water, much less juan dixon, who finished 10-15 FGAs...

so tobe cried uncle at halftime and begged to guard steve blake, who finished 7-11 FGAs... when dixon and blake were through with him jarret jack also torched tobe...

when those 3 weren't on the floor to expose tobe's hapless D, ruben patterson came in for some iso work... ruben patterson finished 8-14 FGAs... tobe is CLEARLY a defensive miracle worker...

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[cranrab]

down low tobe fans

down low queers like complex got their noses wide open for their girl tobe...

got the t.v. on, but don't know how to watch basketball...

funny how this credentialed individual saw the same thing from tobe as i did: charlie rosen on tobe's D last night...

"If Kobe's offensive production was sufficient to propel the Lakers to a victory, his defense was horrendous:

He played one S/R aggressively and was passive on dozens of others.

He spent most of the game defending Juan Dixon and was repeatedly left in the dust when Dixon wove his way through a forest of screens. Dixon also lost Kobe on a screen and curl. Kobe overreacted when Dixon began a dive-cut and was unable to recover when Dixon reversed direction.

Kobe turned his head several times. Even allowing Viktor Khryapa to go backdoor (although he missed the ensuing layup).

He routinely left his man to try to harass another Blazer who had penetrated into the paint. But on numerous occasions, Kobe was too far away to prevent his man from launching a wide-open shot after the penetrator made an outward-bound pass.

He never boxed out his man when shots were launched — not even when he was responsible for boxing out a free-throw shooter.

He rarely threw a hand at a shot.

When Patterson posted him, Kobe made a perfunctory swipe at the ball and let Patterson spin to the basket without offering any other resistance. In another post-up situation, Patterson was taking a wild, off-balance fade-away jumper when Kobe made another roundhouse swipe at the ball and was tagged with the obvious (and unnecessary) foul. He also let Patterson drive baseline and had to foul him.

Jarrett Jack beat Kobe to the baseline twice.

He insisted on playing soft defense on Steve Blake, thereby granting him room enough to shoot at all times. Blake wound up with 19 points on 7-10 shooting.

In his direct man-to-man responsibilities, Kobe yielded 24 points.

Kobe Bryant used to play ace defense. Now he plays like a joker. As long as he's satisfied to play only half of the game, the Lakers are doomed to fall into the lottery.

 

[Havoc]

Kobe has had a nice pocket of games in the last week
I'll try to do a breakdown of the numbers, but if I had
to estimate, I would say he's shooting just around 50%
in his 45+, four game streak. I guess it took a couple of
"spats" in the past week for him to wake up

I've got one question though. It's for Phil Jackson...right
before this happened, you made a curious move of benching
Brian Cook, who was playing REALLY well, and had become,
or was in the PROCESS of becoming, a viable scoring option
for the Lakers.

As far as I could tell, he was no more of a liability on defense
as Kwame Brown was. Brown being a better rebounder and
shot blocker, but nothing else., And Cook isn't a bad rebounder
Besides, when Cook was starting, the Lakers were winning,
so why did he bench him?? Curious move

I guess that at some point, when cranrab is finished with whatever it is that he's doing, he's going to post an opinion as to why this has happened.
I would rather have Brian Cook getting more minutes than Kwame. He's scoring more, which is something the Lakers really need, and it takes the pressure off of Lamar Odom (who can score when he wants to) and Kobe Bryant to keep the Lakers in the game. Less pressure means that they can focus on other things.

 

[cranrab]

they've got the KILLER INSTINCT!

"he goes for the jugular"

"he's clutch"

"he's the best player in the league"

T.J. Ford converted a layup with 15 seconds remaining as the Bucks rallied for a 103-102 victory over the Bobcats, who wasted a big effort from Wallace.

"We just dug deep and got lucky," Ford said. "I got the loose ball and picked up. I was in the right place at the right time and made a finish. I missed all the layups tonight but made the one that counts."

WOW. amazing, t.j. ford was 6-18 FGAs before he made the game ending shot.

 

[cranrab]

they've got the KILLER INSTINCT!

"he goes for the jugular"

"he's clutch"

"he's the best player in the league"

Webber's biggest play came on the defensive end. After he made two free throws with 1:22 left in the third overtime, the teams traded a pair of empty possessions.

Blount rebounded Korver's missed 3-pointer, but Webber sneaked behind him, knocked the ball loose and corraled it with about 10 seconds to play.

Players on both teams were on the verge of exhaustion but kept making big plays, none more so than Webber, who appeared to have more bounce in his step as the game wore on.

"I don't think that I've ever been involved in a three-overtime game," Webber said. "I'm just proud of us because we didn't give up. We were down three in a couple of the overtimes and we didn't do something out of character. We stuck with the game plan and that's why we won."

WOW. no ME's and THEY's... a lot of US and WE's... speaks volume's about a TEAMMATES mindset...

funny how 22 year old delonte west grasps what SO MANY faint hearted fanboys don't:

"The league is funny. Big shots come from everywhere. Anyone can step up at any moment."

 

[Makkonnen]

Re: they've got the KILLER INSTINCT!

kwame had 18 and 12 versus the warriors - i hope this becomes a habit - lamar disappeared again
i wish toby wasnt an idiot and built up lamar to be the player he could be

 

[RunawaySlave]

Kwame Brown will have a pocket of games where he actually
lives up to his potential every season. But it's usually short lived

 

[Makkonnen]

Kwame Brown will have a pocket of games where he actually
lives up to his potential every season. But it's usually short lived

cmon man chill with the natefisher stuff- this is a fresh start for him

 

[RunawaySlave]

Natefisher don't exist on this board. I'm just telling it like it is
I want Kwame to do well, but he has a track record. He'll do
well for a few games, then go into the tank for a month....

Brian Cook was starting to play very well, PLUS the Lakers
were winning. Then Phil benched him. Didn't make sense
IMO. But if Kwame can keep it up, more power to him

 

[RunawaySlave]

I'm sick of talking about the Lakers. There's 20 something
other squads. Some are in developing stages and those are
the ones I pay attention to

 

[Makkonnen]

word wassup with memphis? they fuckin destroyed new jerz the other night - are they doin that shit on the regular?

stevie franchise still is on his period from losing cuttino and i hear orlando wants to adios that dude

i hear tell bout 3 way trade stuff with the clippers indiana and orlando- clippers minus maggette plus artest =?????

 

[RunawaySlave]

Well, Corey Magette is out for at least the next 6 weeks
so I doubt if he is involved in an Artest trade. The Clips
do seem to want to get rid of him though. Not much trade
bait there either. Now Orlando kinda makes sense. But
Francis made up with whoever he was bitching at and is
back on the team......


Nets are a three man team. If one piece is missing, we
become very vulnerable. Jefferson's been out all last week
and they've looked horrible. But he should be back now.

Memphis looks to be yet another grind it out type squad
from the midwest. Should be a pretty good seed, but
Fratello's style doesn't go too far once the playoffs start

 

[xfactor]

word wassup with memphis? they fuckin destroyed new jerz the other night - are they doin that shit on the regular?

The problem with Memphis right now is that they dont have a PG...Playing Mike Miller and Bobby Jackson at PG isnt going to get it done right now.

Another team lacking individual talent (Although Shane Battier and Eddie Jones are good players that dont get the recognition as others) but make up for it with sharing the ball and playing good defense (do you guys see a trend here )

They'll be better than they were last year mainly due to Gasol becoming tougher in the paint and raising his game plus the fact that Mike Miller is shooting lights out. They lost depth last year losing Stromile Swift and Earl Watson (one of my favorite PGs) but should finish 4th or 5th in the West.

 

[Makkonnen]

The problem with Memphis right now is that they dont have a PG...Playing Mike Miller and Bobby Jackson at PG isnt going to get it done right now.

Another team lacking individual talent (Although Shane Battier and Eddie Jones are good players that dont get the recognition as others) but make up for it with sharing the ball and playing good defense (do you guys see a trend here )

They'll be better than they were last year mainly due to Gasol becoming tougher in the paint and raising his game plus the fact that Mike Miller is shooting lights out. They lost depth last year losing Stromile Swift and Earl Watson (one of my favorite PGs) but should finish 4th or 5th in the West.

lacking talent??????????

pau gasol
shane battier
mike miller
eddie jones
bobby jackson
?
it aint detroit but i wouldnt say that team lacks individual talent

 

[cranrab]

memphis 'troubles'

which brings us back to the point of the other thread... the value of HEALTHY ROSTERS

memphis may have the talent to push their win/loss record higher and maintain a playoff berth, but the HEALTH (and therefore lineup consistency) factor has impeded them...

remember that bobby jackson was out for a spell, AND that damon stoudamire was a starter for a couple dozen games...

not exactly interchangeable... each player gives the overall team a different look... (i'd lean towards bobby jackson as the lesser of 2 evils, if forced to choose)

 

[Makkonnen]

Re: memphis 'troubles'

smh bobby jackson and stoudemire and let jackson ride the bench? maybe damon gave coach some weed before he was hurt-i heard damon was playing real well though so maybe he just beat him out

 

[cranrab]

Re: memphis 'troubles'

smh bobby jackson and stoudemire and let jackson ride the bench?

therein lies another problem... neither player is really starting PG material, and both present defensive LIABILITIES against bigger teams...

neither shoots above 40% either...

 

[Makkonnen]

Re: memphis 'troubles'

therein lies another problem... neither player is really starting PG material, and both present defensive LIABILITIES against bigger teams...

neither shoots above 40% either...

bobby used to be a good defensive player before gettin the bench in favor of bibby in sack
damon is lil dude but unless bobby really fell off and he was playin a 6'5 pg i wouldnt think he would have problems like that