Knicks what the fuck

[Supersav]

Yes. I DO follow college ball. Especially the Big East.
(And I also follow the Knicks, in Pro Ball. )

And all that coveted 'defense' that Chandler can play landed him @ the 23rd spot in last year's draft.
Now if Chandler was such an 'offensive weapon' don't you think he would have cracked the Top 10 in the draft?

Joe Alexander just got drafted 15 spots ahead of him this year.

'nuff said.

cuz draft position denotes playing ability right?

van excel
gilbert arenas
boozer
mike redd


come on man dont tell me alexander is better because he got drafted ahead of him.

wilson came out after one year and was drafted 23rd.

Joe couldnt have came out after one year

oh and jus to let you know

WILSON PLAYED IN THE BIG EAST FOOL

 

[kmaster26]

haha.. the D'Antoni-Colangelo connection has found another Andrea Bargnani to add to the nba. Condolences to all the Knicks fans

 

[Supersav]

haha.. the D'Antoni-Colangelo connection has found another Andrea Bargnani to add to the nba. Condolences to all the Knicks fans

Danilo Gallinari’s Skillset
I can’t help to compare some of Gallanari’s traits to fellow countryman Andrea Bargnani. Gallinari is a much purer shooter than Bargnani, though like Bargnani, he seems to settle for the outside shot too much.

And like Bargnani, Gallinari has good size and a solid body, but will also have trouble playing against quicker players and will have issues rebounding the ball on the next level. Besides the fact that both are also Italian, the similarities end there. Danilo Gallinari separates himself is with his athletic ability, the ability to handle the ball, high basketball IQ and intensity. All these qualities and varied skills make Gallinari the highest-regarded Italian prospect ever.

 

[Top-Cat]

I don't know about the knicks pick but the Trailblazers will be the next dynasty. It's scary that they will have so many good young players.

 

[grownazzblakman]

cuz draft position denotes playing ability right?

van excel
gilbert arenas
boozer
mike redd


come on man dont tell me alexander is better because he got drafted ahead of him.

wilson came out after one year and was drafted 23rd.

Joe couldnt have came out after one year

oh and jus to let you know

WILSON PLAYED IN THE BIG EAST FOOL

C'mon man.
Everyone knows DePaul is in the Big East.

Sure I'll concede the point that Alexander may not have been ready for the NBA after a single year....
But Joe has MORE offense than Chandler at this point. And Chandler has been in the NBA for a year already.
Because Joe is also MORE CLUTCH than Chandler.

The Knicks can trade Chandler tomorrow and won't miss him.
Because he is NOT an impact player. Alexander will be.

You will soon see.

 

[Supersav]

C'mon man.
Everyone knows DePaul is in the Big East.

Sure I'll concede the point that Alexander may not have been ready for the NBA after a single year....
But Joe has MORE offense than Chandler at this point. And Chandler has been in the NBA for a year already.
Because Joe is also MORE CLUTCH than Chandler.

The Knicks can trade Chandler tomorrow and won't miss him.
Because he is NOT an impact player. Alexander will be.

You will soon see.

yea he will be an impact player on the pine

 

[bumpy knucklez 357]

i talked all that shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i still love the KINCKS
but

 

[DAHITMAN]

this is some bullshit.

 

[grownazzblakman]

yea he will be an impact player on the pine

Joe will see MORE MINUTES coming off The Bucks bench...
than Chandler saw coming off the Knicks bench, this year.

And I am a KNICK FAN, saying this.

If the Knicks wanted a white guy...
They should have drafted Joe instead of Danilo, this year.

Just my opinion.

 

[RunawaySlave]

Cant blame zeke no more.

They'll find a way

 

[fukzig1]

C'mon man.
Everyone knows DePaul is in the Big East.

Sure I'll concede the point that Alexander may not have been ready for the NBA after a single year....
But Joe has MORE offense than Chandler at this point. And Chandler has been in the NBA for a year already.
Because Joe is also MORE CLUTCH than Chandler.

The Knicks can trade Chandler tomorrow and won't miss him.
Because he is NOT an impact player. Alexander will be.

You will soon see.

C/S.. Alexander ripped it up last year. This dude's a BEAST!

 

[Big Lawdog]

"Wait a fuckin' minute. I didn't have shit to do with this draft."

 

[grownazzblakman]

"Wait a fuckin' minute. I didn't have shit to do with this draft."

 

[blaQue Ice]

 

[Kryptonite 23]

"Wait a fuckin' minute. I didn't have shit to do with this draft."

I will say this about Zeke...........He was a horrible GM but my god that
man has an eye for talent. His draft record was pretty good

 

[malaki]

Knicks fans are almost always wrong, given you guys' track record this guy is probably the next Dirk.

 

[Spectrum]

"Wait a fuckin' minute. I didn't have shit to do with this draft."

 

[Electric Relaxation]

 

[grownazzblakman]

Knicks fans are almost always wrong, given you guys' track record this guy is probably the next Dirk.

Umm.. what Knicks are you watching?
The Knicks 'front office' is almost ALWAYS wrong on Draft Day.
But the FANS usually know what time it is.

The Knicks acquire their BEST players thru trades, not @ the draft.
(Despite the 'available talent' that other teams always seem to capitalize on )

They have only had 1 or 2 halfway decent draft picks in the past 10 years. (see the red, below)
And history shows... most players do BETTER once they leave NY.
So if Danilo plays as well as Dirk... he probably WON'T be wearing a Knick uniform when we find out.

A DECADE OF MADNESS: 1998 - 2008

2008 - Danilo Gallinari
2007 - Wilson Chandler
2006 - Renaldo Balkman
2006 - Mardy Collins
2005 - Channing Frye
2005 - David Lee
2005 - Dijon Thompson
2004 - Trevor Ariza
2003 - Michael Sweetney
2003 - Maciej Lampe
2003 - Slavko Vranes
2002 - Nene Hilario
2002 - Milos Vujanic
2001 - Michael Wright
2001 - Eric Chenowith
2000 - Lavor Postell
2000 - Pete Mickeal
1999 - Frederic Weis
1999 - J.R. Koch
1998 - DeMarco Johnson
1998 - Sean Marks

I expect Balkman to make the All-Star team, the very first season he gets traded.

 

[SOYLENT GREENZ]

I for 1 thought the knicks should have taken bayless.
All this talk about he can't run the point,meanwhile he averaged 4.7 assists last year wit nobody to really pass the ball 2,and him being his teams only real legitimate scoring threat.You put that into a nba game where u gotta shoot in 7 seconds or less and wit legitimate scoring threats around u,and u talking double that.
I like Wilson Chandler's game,even tho zeke aint give him no burn till seasons end.Joe Alexander is a solid player,but at 22,I don't kno if he was gonna get much better,and I damn sure didn't think he was a top 10 pick.
And niccaz shittin on Renaldo,but he was taken at 20,and when he's on the floor,he has more of an impact than most players taken at that range.

 

[grownazzblakman]

And niccaz shittin on Renaldo,but he was taken at 20,and when he's on the floor,he has more of an impact than most players taken at that range.

I actually LIKE Reynaldo's game.
Agreed. He plays solid D, hustles HARD
and usually changes 'the tempo' of the game.

I just think he will become a BETTER player whenever he leaves NYC...
or gets MORE minutes. Whichever comes first.

Like Nene Hilario, Trevor Ariza & Channing Frye.
Man, the list is endless.

And that's one of the Knicks' BIGGEST problems, imo.
They ALWAYS trade away their 'hidden talent' , or keep 'em on the bench too long.

 

[infynite]

Balk is an animal, In an uptempo system my dude is gonna show the savage. ​

co-sign

 

[grownazzblakman]

I for 1 thought the knicks should have taken bayless.
All this talk about he can't run the point,meanwhile he averaged 4.7 assists last year wit nobody to really pass the ball 2,and him being his teams only real legitimate scoring threat.You put that into a nba game where u gotta shoot in 7 seconds or less and wit legitimate scoring threats around u,and u talking double that.
I like Wilson Chandler's game,even tho zeke aint give him no burn till seasons end.Joe Alexander is a solid player,but at 22,I don't kno if he was gonna get much better,and I damn sure didn't think he was a top 10 pick.

Every year.. the Knicks draft a quote: "Project Player".
i.e. someone who needs ALOT of work.

If D'Antoni wants to run an uptempo style, then the Knicks SHOULD HAVE drafted
a TRUE FINISHER like Bill Walker (Kansas State).
His game is comparable to Shawn Marion (The Matrix).
Not a great shooter, but he runs the floor WELL.
Plays SOLID weak-side defense. Blocks shots.
Crazy Athletic. Power Dunks, etc.

Or even Joey Dorsey (Memphis)
He's an ANIMAL too.

And if they wanted a White guy...
Then take Joe Alexander, who has a solid mid-range game and WANTS the ball during CLUTCH TIME.

Now Wilson Chandler is decent and plays better defense.
But Joe commands the rock late in the shot clock.
And plays better when he's ANGRY.

That's the BIG difference, between Chandler and Alexander, imo.
Chandler may be a better athlete, but just doesn't "command the ball" when he's on the floor.... at all.

And btw, NONE of these 3 guys "need much work" right out the box.

Plus they have 'the right attitude' for the New York fans who will IMMEDIATELY
question their "heart" and whether or not they can MAN-UP in crunch time.

Gallinari doesn't seem to have that type of 'consistent' tenacity in him... yet.
If he does... it comes and goes... in streaks.

 

[SOYLENT GREENZ]

Goddamn.....that portland squad is looking deadlier by the minute.Seem like all they moves is good ones.Bayless at 6'3 out there can play off the ball cuz B-roy is 6'6 running the point.They gonna have Oden and aldridge and martel webster...steve blake off da bench...ike diogu..Why the fuck couldn't we have a smart ass GM like dat on our team? We got the fucking resources to pay for the best.
D'antoni says he plans to use Gallinari at the 4.
Get used to SLAM posters with this dude as window dressing.

 

[grownazzblakman]

Goddamn.....that portland squad is looking deadlier by the minute.Seem like all they moves is good ones.Bayless at 6'3 out there can play off the ball cuz B-roy is 6'6 running the point.They gonna have Oden and aldridge and martel webster...steve blake off da bench...ike diogu..Why the fuck couldn't we have a smart ass GM like dat on our team? We got the fucking resources to pay for the best.
D'antoni says he plans to use Gallinari at the 4.
Get used to SLAM posters with this dude as window dressing.

True.

NYC Barbershops are gonna pin-up his posters with someone's "nuts in his face" all around the city.

And Portland may be STRONGEST team out west next year.
If the Laker Fans thought losing the Championship was BAD this year.
It's gonna get ALOT worse.
Cuz Portland got A SQUAD now.

 

[SOYLENT GREENZ]

Bill Walker is a second rounder wit a fucked up knee.
Joey Dorsey is a secound round,6'7 power forward.
I watched Joe alexander in college,and I aint see the offensive force I guess others did.He's a hell of an athlete,but we already have that.His ceiling is what it is at 22.Gallinari may not be who I wanted,but he's better than Joe Alexander.At 19,he's his teams leading scorer in a league that's better than the NCAA,by far.Playing against grown men.And from what I seen on youtube,the lil nicca has a mean streak.He just don't play no fucking defense.Anybody think that last year Joe Alexander could be in the Euroleague and average 18 a game against grown men?

 

[grownazzblakman]

Bill Walker is a second rounder wit a fucked up knee.
Joey Dorsey is a secound round,6'7 power forward.
I watched Joe alexander in college,and I aint see the offensive force I guess others did.He's a hell of an athlete,but we already have that.His ceiling is what it is at 22.Gallinari may not be who I wanted,but he's better than Joe Alexander.At 19,he's his teams leading scorer in a league that's better than the NCAA,by far.Playing against grown men.And from what I seen on youtube,the lil nicca has a mean streak.He just don't play no fucking defense.Anybody think that last year Joe Alexander could be in the Euroleague and average 18 a game against grown men?

The Celtics already had a pick.
But traded FOR Walker ON DRAFT DAY. Despite his injuries.
What does that tell you? They know what they are doing.
He's better than Dorsey anyway.

- Gallinari at 6'10' does not have the deadly shooting range that Dirk has.
- Also he's pretty weak... for 6'10'... since he's gonna be playing against Omeka Okafor and Sam Dalembert-types.
- Has NO back to the basket / low-post moves.
- And can BARELY jump over a phone book.
- Without that shooting range and NO low post moves... he's NOT going to be able to take those guys off-the-dribble all day long... because his game will become VERY easy to defend... VERY quickly (i.e. if a defender moves his feet, and stays in front of him, he's probably gonna take 3 or 4 dribbles then PASS THE BALL, everytime )
- Plus D'Antoni will most likely have him spotting-up around the 3-pt line off the fast-break like Dirk does, unfortunately his height won't give us ANY rebounds like that.
- Now any player in the league, regardless of their ethnicity, who is taller than 6'10' and plays SIGNIFICANT minutes but averages FAR LESS than 7 or 8 rebounds per game is MUCH TOO SOFT for NBA-level contact. Only a chosen few manage to make-up for it by having SUPERIOR offense.

Don't kid yourself. Gallinari has potential.. but he is a PROJECT.
Because his 14.5 points per game against grown men (in Europe) where there is a LACK OF MONSTROUS BIG MEN.... won't mean much in the NBA. Not with the current flaws in his game.

By the time he becomes decent in about 4 or 5 years or so... these other guys like Walker, Dorsey & Alexander will already be 'solid contributors' on their respective teams.

Now if Gallinari was averaging 19 or 20 pts per game, or better... then I might agree with you.

Besides, Joe Alexander is a better athlete with CRAZY HOPS... who WANTS the ball when the shot-clock gets low. And doesn't have as many flaws.

We shall see.