Key DeSantis Donors Rip Him in Private Chats: ‘What the F-ck Is Wrong With RD?’

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The governor’s donor prowess fueled his rise to Trump’s top GOP rival, but the money men are getting anxious

On a group chat of wealthy DeSantis donors, images of which were reviewed by Rolling Stone, participants exploded with alarm last week over the Florida governor’s presidential prospects — and his primary chances against Donald Trump.

“What the fuck is wrong with RD?” one participant wrote after DeSantis did not curtail his out-of-state publicity tour to return home amid massive flooding in the Fort Lauderdale area.

Another participant demanded to know who in the group could get in contact with DeSantis most quickly to complain.

The images were shared on the condition that the participants remain anonymous. Rolling Stone verified the identities of the participants, several of whom have donated large sums toward DeSantis and enjoy extensive access in Florida GOP circles.

Over the past few years, the Florida governor has risen to Trump’s top internal rival without even declaring his candidacy. And part of that rise has been fueled by his pull with the GOP’s megadonor class, who prefer him to Trump because, while he brings a similar set of MAGAfied policies, he has not, to date, attempted a coup. That wellspring of financial support has been instrumental in fueling his rise, but the investments are predicated in large part on a belief that he can take down Donald.

That belief seems to be wavering, as the donor revolt has been brewing since at least last month. And it’s not just skittish donors like Richard Uihlein or Thomas Peterffy, who went public with his complaints last week. Several other top donors to DeSantis were livid about the governor referring to the brutal Russian invasion of Ukraine as a “territorial dispute,” with at least one major donor calling DeSantis to urge a walk-back, a source with knowledge of the outreach and another person briefed on it say. “My understanding is that the message was: ‘If we wanted a fucking MAGA candidate, we would donate to Donald Trump,’” the second source says.

Soon after, DeSantis would indeed publicly walk back his “territorial dispute” comment.

Other donors have begged DeSantis’ close associates to convince the governor to stop being such a “damn wimp” — in the words of one DeSantis donor — with Trump, imploring him to hit back harder against Trump’s attacks, according to two donors to DeSantis. The governor is known for being stubborn and resistant to some of his allies’ calls for course correction, and he has insisted that he, strategically, knows best, people familiar with the matter say.

Since last month — and as recently as last week — the uneasiness among DeSantis’s megadonor base has only grown, the two DeSantis donors and two other pro-DeSantis sources familiar with the situation say. These sources spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the state of the proto-campaign.

And the collective unease is spilling out into the public. “Of course it’s not a secret.… I don’t even know if I’d call it an open secret anymore. It’s just something everybody knows about,” one longtime Republican moneyman and donor to DeSantis described to Rolling Stone, citing fresh “nervousness” and “panic” within the elite communities of DeSantis megadonors and high-profile backers.

Some megadonors are beginning to voice their unease on the record. Billionaire financier Thomas Peterffy told the Financial Times this past weekend that he and “a bunch of friends” were putting spending for the Florida governor on hold “because of his stance on abortion and book banning.” Peterffy told the paper that he was instead looking to see if other primary candidates could do a better job taking on Trump.

On Monday, Gregory Cook, a donor to the pro-DeSantis Super PAC Never Back Down and a founder of multilevel marketing company doTERRA, expressed support for the candidate to Rolling Stone: “I’m investing in Governor DeSantis because I am invested in America’s success. The volume of support is unmatched and no one comes close to the fundraising potential of the governor. When you combine that with his ability to put together a winning coalition, he can’t be stopped.”

But other major donors are also feeling pressure from the outside, as the Trump campaign has targeted them specifically with appeals and veiled warnings to drop their support of the Florida governor. A Team Trump memo sent to top-dollar DeSantis donors and obtained by Politico pointed to the challenger’s wavering poll numbers and urged that “now is the time to demonstrate your support” for Trump.

Polling aggregator FiveThirtyEight recently reported that Trump enjoys a commanding 23-point lead over his expected Florida rival, according to the site’s weighted averages.

Those polling troubles may be giving some megadonors second thoughts. Sources familiar with Schlitz Brewing heir and shipping titan Richard Uihlein’s thinking told NBC News that the “brakes are pumped” with the megadonor’s DeSantis giving after the governor’s lackluster polling has given some “pause” about his viability.

Other conservatives have taken to predicting that DeSantis is potentially the second coming of Scott Walker, another Republican governor and conservative-media darling who many thought would be the favored candidate in a presidential primary — only to flame out before any ballots were cast.

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Trump Plotted for Weeks to ‘Mindf-ck’ DeSantis With Florida Endorsements

The former president nabbed a slew of congressional support this week, right as the governor was in Washington courting it for himself

THE UPPER RANKS of Donald Trump’s campaign and political operation exploded in jubilation on Tuesday, mocking Ron DeSantis’ staff as a bunch of “amateurs,” with multiple officials belly-laughing with one another over how much Trump had — in their verbiage — “cuck[ed]” the Florida governor on securing endorsements from the state’s congressional delegation, according to three sources familiar with the internal chatter.

Team Trump’s rollout of Florida endorsements on Tuesday was part of a plan to subvert DeSantis in his own state that the former president’s staff has been working on for more than a month, sources say. Trump’s aggressive, weeks-long outreach to secure Florida Republican endorsers this early in the game (when DeSantis hasn’t even officially declared a 2024 presidential run) has been spearheaded by top aides like Brian Jack and Susie Wiles, with the ex-president at times getting personally involved as well, the sources say.

By this past weekend, Trump’s inner circle was convinced they had a number of new Florida lawmakers ready to announce their support. Previously, the idea was to release the endorsements at once, likely Thursday or Friday of this week. However, by the weekend, plans had changed: It was decided that the Trump campaign would drip them out at different points in the coming days — including on Tuesday when DeSantis would be on the ground in Washington, D.C., trying to lock down his own endorsements from the Florida delegation. The ploy was part of a deliberate effort to, in the words of one of the sources familiar with the matter, “embarrass and mindfuck DeSantis” as much as possible, via a steady drip.

At least for this week, it seems to have worked.

Several lawmakers from the Florida governor’s home state threw their weight behind Trump on Tuesday, including Reps. Greg Steube, John Rutherford, and Brian Mast. The former president has now landed the support of seven members of Florida’s congressional delegation in Washington — with more endorsements getting scheduled for release in the coming days, according to those with knowledge of the planning.

NBC News reported that after Florida representative and DeSantis ally Byron Donalds endorsed Trump earlier this month, DeSantis adviser Ryan Tyson began trying to convince Florida lawmakers to hold off announcing their endorsements. Steube was one such lawmaker Tyson called, to no avail. “For the first time ever, I hear from DeSantis’ political person,” Steube told Politico of the call, noting multiple occasions DeSantis has snubbed him in the past.

DeSantis’ humiliation wasn’t confined to Florida. The governor met with Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas), only to see Gooden endorse Trump shortly thereafter. “Today, after careful consideration and a positive meeting with Governor Ron DeSantis, Congressman Lance Gooden announces his endorsement of President Donald J. Trump,” the announcement read.

DeSantis did lock down one endorsement on Tuesday, Rep. Laurel Lee (R-Fla.), who was formerly his secretary of state in Florida. It’s only his third congressional endorsement — the other two being Reps. Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) — which means Trump has secured more than twice as much support from DeSantis’ own backyard as DeSantis has secured … period.

The endorsement debacle isn’t the first sign DeSantis’ burgeoning 2024 campaign could be in trouble. Trump, leading in most polls by a wide margin, has been attacking the governor mercilessly for weeks. The former president has gone after his chief rival particularly hard over statements DeSantis made years ago expressing support for privatizing Medicare and Social Security. The statements were also the focus of an ad a Trump-aligned Super PAC released earlier this week that attacked the governor on Social Security — and was themed around a report that DeSantis once ate pudding with his fingers.

DeSantis has largely refrained from hitting back at Trump, and he has appeared visibly uncomfortable when reporters ask him to respond to news relating to the former president. Instead, he’s focused his ire on Disney, which opposed the anti-LGBTQ bill he signed into law last year. DeSantis has been trying to exact revenge on Disney World, one of his state’s biggest economic drivers, ever since. He threatened to build a prison next to it earlier this week.

Trump has delighted in the feud. “DeSanctus is being absolutely destroyed by Disney,” he wrote on Tuesday. “His original P.R. plan fizzled, so now he’s going back with a new one in order to save face. Disney’s next move will be the announcement that no more money will be invested in Florida because of the Governor — In fact, they could even announce a slow withdrawal or sale of certain properties, or the whole thing. Watch! That would be a killer. In the meantime, this is all so unnecessary, a political STUNT! Ron should work on the squatter MESS!”

The situation has gotten so dire that DeSantis’ big-money donors are starting to sweat, as evinced by messages from a group chat reviewed by Rolling Stone. “What the fuck is wrong with RD?” one wealthy donor wrote while DeSantis was on a publicity tour in Ohio as Fort Lauderdale experienced record flooding. Some donors were also put off by DeSantis describing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a “territorial dispute,” a euphemism that one might expect from Trump or his Putin-friendly allies, but not a traditional conservative. “My understanding is that the message was: ‘If we wanted a fucking MAGA candidate, we would donate to Donald Trump,’” a source familiar with a donor calling DeSantis to urge he walk back the characterization told Rolling Stone. DeSantis did indeed walk it back.

DeSantis is expected to formally announce his candidacy sometime after Florida’s Legislature session wraps up next month. He’ll be playing from behind whenever he does.

 

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For thread being so trash you bumping your own thread

This is when you know that somepne is a stupid 1 star troll..... it's not a bump when you make two posts in less than two minutes..... it's the time it took to copy & paste two separate articles...... God you're unbelievably stoopid and a waste of oxygen
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I don't understand it, but there are already I have dozen Republican no names that have absolutely no chance to become president that have already announced their presidency intentions.

What's the point of that? Is it just to get the name out there? It seems like me signing up for the Boston Marathon. I know I have no chance at winning, so why waste my time collecting endorsements for it when I know that not only am I not going to win I won't even finish
 
I think some are gonna be hoping to be tapped as VP on a ticket when they bow out, and some are trying to up their profile. Also, some probably want cabinet positions in the nominee's administration if he eventually wins.





I don't understand it, but there are already I have dozen Republican no names that have absolutely no chance to become president that have already announced their presidency intentions.

What's the point of that? Is it just to get the name out there? It seems like me signing up for the Boston Marathon. I know I have no chance at winning, so why waste my time collecting endorsements for it when I know that not only am I not going to win I won't even finish
 
I think some are gonna be hoping to be tapped as VP on a ticket when they bow out, and some are trying to up their profile. Also, some probably want cabinet positions in the nominee's administration if he eventually wins.
Thank you. This has confused me for the longest time of why some unknown motherfucker or who has no chance at winning runs for president.

Who the fuck is going to vote for Tim Scott in the Republican primaries?
 
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