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Justice League MOVIE Discussion (The SynderCut Drops 3/18/2021)

The race was to lighten up the mood and is taken from the comics.

The family was an attempt to personalize the drama and raise the stakes.

No one on Earth seems to know the whole Steven Wolf thing was happening!!

No news reports no nothing.

It was like this shit happened on an abandoned planet.
Simply Sickenin' said:
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I'd love an explanation of this
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or this
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I'm putting that solely on Joss and Warners until we get hard proof that it wasn't them.
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TENT said:
The race was to lighten up the mood and is taken from the comics.

The family was an attempt to personalize the drama and raise the stakes.

No one on Earth seems to know the whole Steven Wolf thing was happening!!

No news reports no nothing.

It was like this shit happened on an abandoned planet.
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I honestly thought about that lack of awareness of the threat during the movie. But every time I thought about it I would flash back to that damn family or the random waitress Cap saved in Avengers 1. Imho I kinda agree with Synder on this one. The action and pace of the movie works better when you have them fight in an abandon city so no one has to hold back. It's probably less realistic but I enjoyed Zac's final fight whereas I hate Joss's version.

I have nitpicks of the Synder cut but nothing caused angry in me like the 2017 cut did.
 
I read this and it continues to show that they don't know what they are doing..

Why replace Cavil he has been one of the few actors where the majority of the fans say he should be Superman and our upset that the dude..... hasnt really gotten a chance to really shine as Superman

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DCEU Will Be More Connected Going Forward Says WarnerMedia CEO

The DCEU will, essentially, be more like the MCU going forward.
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So now they want to try and connect the worlds....
 
fonzerrillii said:
So now they want to try and connect the worlds....
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and how do they plan to do this? at this point, it's too late. Yeah, make shit more connected right after announcing Cyborg wont be in Flash (or probably anything else DC related) and after canceling Black Lightning. At least we still got Hawkman and Black Adam to look forward to.

hold up, and they have 3 Robins in Titans and an older Batman. how the hell do you explain that
 
The Lex and Deathstroke scene, the Nightmare Future scene and the Martian Manhunter scene looked cheap and tacked on. They had nothing to do with the movie at all!

Is Batman having Nightmares or is he telepathic? Smh.

If they were post credit scenes it would be ok. But they put them IN the movie. Made no sense.
 
ThaBurgerPimp said:
Guess they are really starting from scratch after the Flash movie..



I'm sure the CW will have Grant Gustin and Tyler Hoechlin do their own version of this on the season finale of either The Flash or Superman & Lois..
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Who is doing what on what.
There's a new Superman show on the CW.

I'm still jaded after Smallville.
 
fonzerrillii said:
I didn't think anything could make BVS or Justice League better ... Like nothing

But the extended version of BVS and the Snyder Cut have both shown me that WB is behind a lot of butchering...

David Ayer had a completely different version ... Just like Snyder

David Ayer Says His "Soulful Drama" Cut of 'Suicide Squad' Was "Beaten Into a Comedy"
BY ALLIE GEMMILLPUBLISHED MAY 30, 2020

Director David Ayer remains vocal on Twitter in highlighting the differences between his Suicide Squad cut and the theatrical cut we saw back in 2016. Since it was revealed Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League would finally be released via HBO Max in 2021, Ayer — in similar circumstances to Snyder after his version of Suicide Squad was edited significantly ahead of release — has been answering a large number of fan questions daily about his director's cut and advocating for its release on HBO Max, too.

Among a slew of new tweets shared on Saturday morning, Ayer addressed the 2015 Comic-Con trailer (which you can revisit below) and how, tonally, it starkly contrasts with the theatrical cut. The topic came up after a follower of Ayer's on Twitter shared their opinion the Comic-Con trailer was the "greatest isolated piece" of content from the movie. This led Ayer to respond, seemingly agreeing and going on to explain how the trailer encapsulated the tone he wanted, but which never came to fruition.

"This trailer nailed the tone and intention of the film I made," Ayer tweeted, going on to say, "Methodical. Layered. Complex, beautiful and sad. After the [Batman v Superman] reviews shell shocked the leadership at the time, and the success of Deadpool, my soulful drama was beaten into a "comedy.'"

Here, Ayer's argument seems to be that the darker, moodier tone of Snyder's Batman v Superman, which was shared in part by Suicide Squad, was something that needed to be changed and the tone of the more gleefully R-rated Deadpool was the template upon which Ayer's cut was edited to match. Ayer stuck to these guns as he continued to reject Deadpool's example and its effect on comic book movies (referred to as "CBM" in the below tweets) overall, ultimately arguing DC movies work better as "darker, more psychologically realistic" entities.

yer's other comments on Saturday morning (and which seem to be ongoing at time of reporting) also go more in-depth on his vision for Jared Leto's Joker and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, the mask worn by Will Smith's Deadshot, and challenging anyone who saw his cut in an effort to vouch for his version. The director's continued efforts to make the case for his Suicide Squad cut are intriguing, to say the least. It will be interesting to see what he reveals next.

Here's the 2015 Suicide Squad Comic-Con trailer, in case you wanna refresh your memory. Get even more updates about the new Suicide Squad movie directed by James Gunn here.



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New Suicide Squad Ayer Cut Differences Explained by Director Tweet

In new tweets from director David Ayer on his cut of Suicide Squad, he tackles the original Comic-Con trailer and how it nailed the tone he was going for.
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Like I said fan backlash caused the suits at Warner to get spooked and change the tone of their movies. Somebody needw to buy dc off of Warner because they don't know what they are doing. RELEASE THE AYER CUT!
 
Gottdamn....I didn't think it was possible but man this shit is fuckin bannanas now. I'm at the part where Cyborg takes over the Nightcrawler. I might actually finish this bitch tonite.

Other than Aquaman momma fuckin Superman....

I think this just shows that DC fucks over the creatives by gettin in the way. But really this should be 2 or 3 fuckin movies to be done right.

I like how they beefed up Steppenwolf and put some bass in his voice. I didn't like Darkseid tho. He should be massive like THanos. Oh well.

They had years to fix this shit and listen to the complaints as well as check out what Marvel did.

Hopefully they can get shit right in the future. IDK tho. Aquaman momma fuckin superman is just stupid and shows they really don't give a fuck.lol
 
TENT said:
The race was to lighten up the mood and is taken from the comics.

The family was an attempt to personalize the drama and raise the stakes.

No one on Earth seems to know the whole Steven Wolf thing was happening!!

No news reports no nothing.

It was like this shit happened on an abandoned planet.
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Most of the alien action and fighting takes place out of sight on Themyscira, Atlantis, the underwater tunnels or the abandoned area in Russia. Not really a public audience to sound the alarm. The reports of people getting snatched was brought to the attention of the police in both movies and the news aired reports in the original. I assume the kidnap victims would have told their stories. Steppenwolf didn't make an appearance in broad daylight until the box was awakened to ressurect Superman, and then the focus shifted, but I assume it would have been covered by the news, as would Superman's return, and that there would have been some sort of government reaction also. I wouldn't have minded 15 min more to flesh all that out, but I don't think it was required viewing.
 
Superman's return and also Clark Kent's return because Clark Kent was killed. It was announced.

Yeah there cannot be a continuation of Zack's vision. This was it that is why he threw the Joker in at the end.

Camille said:
Most of the alien action and fighting takes place out of sight on Themyscira, Atlantis, the underwater tunnels or the abandoned area in Russia. Not really a public audience to sound the alarm. The reports of people getting snatched was brought to the attention of the police in both movies and the news aired reports in the original. I assume the kidnap victims would have told their stories. Steppenwolf didn't make an appearance in broad daylight until the box was awakened to ressurect Superman, and then the focus shifted, but I assume it would have been covered by the news, as would Superman's return, and that there would have been some sort of government reaction also. I wouldn't have minded 15 min more to flesh all that out, but I don't think it was required viewing.
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DjMorpheus said:
Gottdamn....I didn't think it was possible but man this shit is fuckin bannanas now. I'm at the part where Cyborg takes over the Nightcrawler. I might actually finish this bitch tonite.

Other than Aquaman momma fuckin Superman....

I think this just shows that DC fucks over the creatives by gettin in the way. But really this should be 2 or 3 fuckin movies to be done right.

I like how they beefed up Steppenwolf and put some bass in his voice. I didn't like Darkseid tho. He should be massive like THanos. Oh well.

They had years to fix this shit and listen to the complaints as well as check out what Marvel did.

Hopefully they can get shit right in the future. IDK tho. Aquaman momma fuckin superman is just stupid and shows they really don't give a fuck.lol
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Wtf are you talking about "aquaman momma fucking Superman"?!? What movie did you see?
 
Don Coreleone said:
That Avengers scene is the worst cinematic shit I have seen in my life and it hurts to see the Eternals turn into the United Nations.
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The bullshit started when they made Hawkeye a family man. They couldve added mockingbird for a love interest instead. Thqt girl power scene doesnt bother me so much its just Disney showcasing their princesses
 
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My one gripe with the Snyder verse superman is he doesnt have the trademark curl bang in the middle of his fore head. They shouldve had showed parts of his childhood in the man of steel movie of him on the playground during his childhood at the playground playing the monkeybars in little red shorts. Then at the community swimming pool diving in the water and when he came up out the water the curl would be on his fore head because some say he had indian in his family. When he dived in the pool to save lois lane in bvs when he came out the water the curl was on his forhead and the water was glistening ..... All over his boddddyyyyyy.
 
LordSinister said:
Lets just face facts, DC continuity has been shitty. That comes with decades of writers and a complete lack of restraint for power levels.

DC needs to pull out the Anti Monitor and reboot everything. Then start over with a real plan. The fans want a combined DC. Tired of Earth 2,3,4,98 whatever
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Bro, cut it out. Marvel is just now getting their ish together. Y'all Marvel stans be acting like Howard the Duck, The Hulk Movie, Iron Man 2 and 3, Iron Fist and a list of other failures don't exist.

:hithead:
 
Tito_Jackson said:
Bro, cut it out. Marvel is just now getting their ish together. Y'all Marvel stans be acting like Howard the Duck, The Hulk Movie, Iron Man 2 and 3, Iron Fist and a list of other failures don't exist.

:hithead:
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No. That's not what were saying. Were talking about connectivity. The last 3 you mentioned are part of the MCU. The others were not and don't plan to be.

DC is putting out content now and in the future that is not connected at all. They have shows on CW, HBO and Movies that have nothing to do with each other. Get this, Doom Patrol was a spin off from Titans. You know these idiots later came back and said that there is no connection between the shows, they take place in different worlds. WTF. That's like saying the Jeffersons took place on Mars and All in the Family took place on Earth.
 
Tito_Jackson said:
Bro, cut it out. Marvel is just now getting their ish together. Y'all Marvel stans be acting like Howard the Duck, The Hulk Movie, Iron Man 2 and 3, Iron Fist and a list of other failures don't exist.

:hithead:
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Dude you get so sensitive whenever someone posts something negative about DC.

Dude was actually encouraging DC to get their shit together. Its CONSTRUCTIVE cristicism.

Doesnt mean every single one of their movies will be good, it just means that having continuity will be good for all of their movies.

Can you get over your feelings and understand what people are writing?
 
LordSinister said:
Lets just face facts, DC continuity has been shitty. That comes with decades of writers and a complete lack of restraint for power levels.

DC needs to pull out the Anti Monitor and reboot everything. Then start over with a real plan. The fans want a combined DC. Tired of Earth 2,3,4,98 whatever
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Bruh they literally just tried that with the new 52 and nobody was feeling that shit. You're not wrong about DC continuity but another reboot can't be the answer.
 
AllUniverse17 said:
Dude you get so sensitive whenever someone posts something negative about DC.

Dude was actually encouraging DC to get their shit together. Its CONSTRUCTIVE cristicism.

Doesnt mean every single one of their movies will be good, it just means that having continuity will be good for all of their movies.

Can you get over your feelings and understand what people are writing?
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exactly, now we have another batman movie coming out that has nothing to do with this. They gave us a Joker movie that has nothing to do with this. How difficult can it be to put all this shit in one universe.
 
TimRock said:
No. That's not what were saying. Were talking about connectivity. The last 3 you mentioned are part of the MCU. The others were not and don't plan to be.

DC is putting out content now and in the future that is not connected at all. They have shows on CW, HBO and Movies that have nothing to do with each other. Get this, Doom Patrol was a spin off from Titans. You know these idiots later came back and said that there is no connection between the shows, they take place in different worlds. WTF. That's like saying the Jeffersons took place on Mars and All in the Family took place on Earth.
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The Hulk movie was the first MCU movie. It was just so bad that went back to the drawing board.
AllUniverse17 said:
Dude you get so sensitive whenever someone posts something negative about DC.

Dude was actually encouraging DC to get their shit together. Its CONSTRUCTIVE cristicism.

Doesnt mean every single one of their movies will be good, it just means that having continuity will be good for all of their movies.

Can you get over your feelings and understand what people are writing?
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I'm just not a fan of half truths or inaccurate statements. Marvel had a run of good movies with a few duds sprinkled in between.

DC is not Marvel. Why are people expecting this?? Why can't there just be movies? Joker, Shazam, WW, Aquaman, Man of Steel, and the JL Snyder Cut are all solid films. Black Adam and The Suicide Squad will both be hits.

Most Marvel fans on BGOL were shitting on the Snyder cut before it was released. Why?? Just because they are Marvel fans. Same thing happen with Joker.
Simply Sickenin' said:
Bruh they literally just tried that with the new 52 and nobody was feeling that shit. You're not wrong about DC continuity but another reboot can't be the answer.
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The technically fixed their whole continuity problem with the introduction of Infinite Crisis on the CW.

I am a fan of both companies. Both companies have had highs and lows. Marvel enjoyed a great run with the Infinity Stones Saga.
 
Tito_Jackson said:
Bro, cut it out. Marvel is just now getting their ish together. Y'all Marvel stans be acting like Howard the Duck, The Hulk Movie, Iron Man 2 and 3, Iron Fist and a list of other failures don't exist.

:hithead:
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All of these "Failures" made money

And Howard the fucking Duck was in Endgame! It's the continuity we are speaking of.

Marvel has had 2 flops, Iron Fist and Inhumans. Both of these will be fixed.

DC does dumb shit like leave the Kryptonian space ship with all of Superman's shit on it in the middle of the fucking city, instead of say...his fortress?

You are acting like I hate DC. I don't, I hate warner brothers and the suits. The same suits at Marvel that fucked up Ultron in order to sell toys and fucked of the good Avenger's cartoon for the same reason and also destroyed the continuity for 1 off plots.
 
Simply Sickenin' said:
Bruh they literally just tried that with the new 52 and nobody was feeling that shit. You're not wrong about DC continuity but another reboot can't be the answer.
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New 52 was crazy.

After Crisis they get John Byrne to recreate superman and power him down to be more relatable. But DC can't help themselves and they went back to cuzz crushing black holes and shit.

So I guess the new 52 was a soft reboot?

I'm saying the DCEU needs better continuity and pacing. 3rd movie in and you are already at the Flashpoint, Darkseid stage? Why have we never seen a good Brainiac on the screen besides the Krypton series that was killed off? They would have been better off making Zod into Bizarro without the stupid talking and costume than that shitty Doomsday.

Even though Aquaman was silly, they kept his villains around and had some character development. I want to see what happens to him and his people. Shazam couldn't even pay Superman to show his fucking face in the movie. It's that kind of lame shit that has me heated.
 

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