Justice League MOVIE Discussion (The SynderCut Drops 3/18/2021)

[Darkness's]

self indulgent...somewhere between what the studio did and what he wanted was a better movie

I blame fanboys/social media for this...

I'm glad the snydercut happen because i just watched a clip of juztice league 217 worst lines and www. It was horrible. Not only was the dialogue bad but the cinematography and the costumes were off. Especially Batman. It looked like Ben Affleck was displaying at comic. I purchased justice league on demand 2 years ago and i wish I can delete it, i tried to. After watching the snydercut I can never go back to that. 2017 justice league isn't even unintentionally funny. If I saw that movie while drunk I would. probably hurl.

 

[TENT]

He didn't SNAP HIS FUCKING NECK.

What do people think happened to Zod in Superman 2



That Zod is just chilling at the bottom of the Fortress of Solitude making Smores and eating Tea and Crumpets

Man BGOL be fucking killing me with uneducated hypocrisy


Superman literally broke Zods hand.... picked him ... and threw his ass against a fall to fall down to the bottom a extremely deep pit.

Then Lois Lane killed a woman...

 

[sumofyallniggasisbitches2]

Man of Steel was fantastic ..... It showed a Superman that actually felt like an Alien .... Krypton was a fully realized Alien world ....

It didn't show Clark Kent the reporter but you could tell that if he had a Sequel that's what would have happened ... He did show more of Clark as a reporter in Batman v Superman the Extended Cut.



Man I might fire up Man of Steel today after I finish Justice League.

I literally watched it last night....The day before that I re watched Justice League and B vs S......I even watched that WW1984 trash again

 

[Don Coreleone]

I'm still fucking tripping how many expensive scenes were cut from the final film..

Like the Barry & Iris scene....

All Snyder did was go back and put in the effect for that scene.... everything else was shot

Like that was a full on car crash that was completely left on the cutting room floor

They probably added more CGI.

 

[Darkness's]

What do people think happened to Zod in Superman 2



That Zod is just chilling at the bottom of the Fortress of Solitude making Smores and eating Tea and Crumpets

Man BGOL be fucking killing me with uneducated hypocrisy


Superman literally broke Zods hand.... picked him ... and threw his ass against a fall to fall down to the bottom a extremely deep pit.

Then Lois Lane killed a woman...

Yep and Batman killed a lot of people in the burton movies and in the Nolan films he let ra's al ghul fall to his death and in the dark knight right from the joker smouth " you let five people die, thats cold even for a guy like me." What people dont get is these are Zack snydsrs interpretation based on the Frank Miller dark knight graphic novels that featured an older disgruntled and brutal Batman that killed. In the first 10 years of batman comics Batman killed and carried a gun on his hip and he shot criminals. snyder is aware of the no kill rule and he made Batman act contrary as a test of his moralitysame with Superman snapping sods neck because of a no way out situation. Snyder had them kill because he wa ted to show that their no kill morals wouldn't hold up so well in a real world situation. These fans who whine about this shit are just mad that these movies dont live up to their childhood fantasies. These films are their own interpretation and dont habe to follow the cannon of the comic books or other medium. Motherfuckers just like to hear themselves talk.

 

[fonzerrillii]

He didn't SNAP HIS FUCKING NECK.

He straight up executed them in the Comics .... though

 

[fonzerrillii]

They probably added more CGI.

The truck and car were real ....he came in and finished up the shots with CGI

 

[fonzerrillii]

And entire football scene.... Players and Stadium left on the cutting room floor

People in the Stands..

Man that's alot of fucking money


I'm just over here tripping...


Yeah If I were Ray Fisher .. I'd also be furious .... like 76% of his shit was cut out completely.

 

[HAR125LEM]

It always kills me when people bitch about OH NO... Superman killed Zod... Superman never Kills ...

When if you look at the original comics from the 30s and 40s .... My man killed people all the time..

Like what do you think happened to this dude..

Looks like it's pretty much implied that Superman killed this dude.

He's killed Zod in the Comics before

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But oh know...... Superman can't kill Zod in the Movies ...

Even though in both the movie and the Comicbook ... You can see that Superman only killed Zod because he was faced with no other option.

I tell people all the time to read those late 30s/early 40s stories.
Because Superman and Batman just didn't give a shit.
Both characters were bullying and killing dudes just to make their points.
Even on fuckin' Cops.

 

[Don Coreleone]

The biggest losers of these 2 films is the executives who basically ruined the 2017 experience. I thought this was a much better movie than the other film. Flash's running was better than whatever that goofy shit was in Joss Whedon's cut. The end credit scene with Deathstroke and Lex was better. Any Wonder Woman movie should show the amazons and Themiscrya in it. If you're going to show me Darkseid and Apokolips I want to see Highfather and Orion. I know it probably won't happen but I would like to see Justice League continued.

 

[Darkness's]

iwhinei liked that they cut out 98.5% of the goofiness that 2017 justice league had. Aquaman is completely different and likable in the snyder version. They cut out all the bad Whedon jokes and toned down the flash"s awkward news somewhat. The only thing I didn't like was

Spoiler

cyborg didn't change into his final form like in the 2017 version.

 

[TENT]

The reason why he didn't save his father is dumb.

How is going to watch their family member die when the have the power to save them.

I don't care what his father said. It was an easy save.

As an intelligent human being, to watch that scene and not feel insulted is beyond me.

It is just DUMB.

His father could have died of a heart attack and the drama could have still been there.

Cause Superman truly could not save him from that situation.

Smh at you thinking that movie was good.

Fam.... Where was Jimmy Olsen in Man of Steel??

Also .... Do you even remember why he didn't save his father in Man of Steel?

Did you even watch those movies?? Cause you are saying things that are making me wonder....

 

[fonzerrillii]

The biggest losers of these 2 films is the executives who basically ruined the 2017 experience. I thought this was a much better movie than the other film. Flash's running was better than whatever that goofy shit was in Joss Whedon's cut. The end credit scene with Deathstroke and Lex was better. Any Wonder Woman movie should show the amazons and Themiscrya in it. If you're going to show me Darkseid and Apokolips I want to see Highfather and Orion. I know it probably won't happen but I would like to see Justice League continued.

I'm still watching this and I agree

The full Justice League saga with Them taking on Darkseid should have done as one huge 8 hour film broken up into a two Justice League Pt 1 and Part 2 and a Sequel Justice League broken up into a Part 1 and Part 2.

Like this 4 hour film would not have worked in the movies.... and I don't think breaking this up into two parts would have worked..

I know BGOL and folks would have bitched about the pace of this...

But I can see what Snyder was trying to do here..

Same way that I saw his vision in the extended cut of BVS ...

I really really hope that this does numbers for HBO because Justice League 2 would work better on HBO MAX then I think it would in the movies..

 

[HAR125LEM]

As for the movie...

The ONLY word I can use to describe it (for now)...

"OPERATIC"

It was the perfect approach to how to deal with characters of such an iconic status.

 

[playahaitian]

And entire football scene.... Players and Stadium left on the cutting room floor

People in the Stands..

Man that's alot of fucking money


I'm just over here tripping...


Yeah If I were Ray Fisher .. I'd also be furious .... like 76% of his shit was cut out completely.

I think that is the ONLY and MOST IMPORTANT take away from this

that brother aint tell ONE LIE apparently

I aint watch yet but Vicious sent me the Fatman podcast

Kevin smith broke it down

this was a career defining performance (by what I'm being told)

an opportunity that you PROBABLY could give an ACTUAL dollar amount to its value

This could have been the start of a great career potential for Ray.

Man oh Man I would have been pissed to hell too

 

[playahaitian]

@ViCiouS @largebillsonlyplease

I aint watch yet but I got a non spoiler question

So all these so called YouTube insiders for years claimed that well there REALLY isn't a Snyder Cut.

But from all accounts form what I;m hearing there IS and its on HBO MAX.

So I want to know is this REALLY a Snyder Cut - a completely different movie then Joss Whedon version? New scenes, new music, new effects, different FEEL, different character archs etc?

so were all those YouTube insiders WRONG? This is MUCH MORE than a series of outtakes and reedits?

 

[fonzerrillii]

Im straight tripping that this is basically an entirely different movie.....

I don't think I've seen a directors cut like this before.... This is an achievement

 

[fonzerrillii]

The reason why he didn't save his father is dumb.

How is going to watch their family member die when the have the power to save them.

I don't care what his father said. It was an easy save.

As an intelligent human being, to watch that scene and not feel insulted is beyond me.

It is just DUMB.

His father could have died of a heart attack and the drama could have still been there.

Cause Superman truly could not save him from that situation.

Smh at you thinking that movie was good.

????? Fam do you understand Superman?????

Like that was the point..... the fact that from the flashbacks Jonathan Kent continued to want to protect his son by having him hide his powers from the world... he was so strong in his convictions that he would rather die then have his son risk exposing himself and Clark knowing this .... Honored his father's wish and watched him die...

This is what pushed Clark to start exploring the world to find who he was and his father died...


Every other Superman story typically shows Jonathan getting a Heart attack .......... This movie finally gave us some different beats to the same ol' Clark Kent becomes Superman story ... Like the entire Movie was the prologue for Superman's Origin Story.


So you wanted a Superman Movie that told the exact same Superman origin story that we Saw in the original Superman, the Cartoons, the Lois and Clark show, Smallville..... and so On.

 

[TENT]

Boo.

If anyone in the history of humanity had the power to save their parents life. They would.

Superman, who then goes around saving random people, let his father die.

???

Have a good day man.

????? Fam do you understand Superman?????

Like that was the point..... the fact that from the flashbacks Jonathan Kent continued to want to protect his son by having him hide his powers from the world... he was so strong in his convictions that he would rather die then have his son risk exposing himself and Clark knowing this .... Honored his father's wish and watched him die...

This is what pushed Clark to start exploring the world to find who he was and his father died...


Every other Superman story typically shows Jonathan getting a Heart attack .......... This movie finally gave us some different beats to the same ol' Clark Kent becomes Superman story ... Like the entire Movie was the prologue for Superman's Origin Story.


So you wanted a Superman Movie that told the exact same Superman origin story that we Saw in the original Superman, the Cartoons, the Lois and Clark show, Smallville..... and so On.

 

[thundercat]

I really enjoyed the Snyder cut.

 

[Darkness's]

????? Fam do you understand Superman?????

Like that was the point..... the fact that from the flashbacks Jonathan Kent continued to want to protect his son by having him hide his powers from the world... he was so strong in his convictions that he would rather die then have his son risk exposing himself and Clark knowing this .... Honored his father's wish and watched him die...

This is what pushed Clark to start exploring the world to find who he was and his father died...


Every other Superman story typically shows Jonathan getting a Heart attack .......... This movie finally gave us some different beats to the same ol' Clark Kent becomes Superman story ... Like the entire Movie was the prologue for Superman's Origin Story.


So you wanted a Superman Movie that told the exact same Superman origin story that we Saw in the original Superman, the Cartoons, the Lois and Clark show, Smallville..... and so On.

Exactly . I wouldnt waste time arguing with him. He the one who had them asinine complaints in the mandalorian thread when Luke came through.

 

[ViCiouS]

So I want to know is this REALLY a Snyder Cut - a completely different movie then Joss Whedon version? New scenes, new music, new effects, different FEEL, different character archs etc?

yes

so were all those YouTube insiders WRONG? This is MUCH MORE than a series of outtakes and reedits?

no and yes

there was never a Snyder Cut

Snyder finished filming and delivered an assembly cut of JL before leaving / forced out

Whedon then reshot +80% of JL that was released in theatres

whats on HBOMax today is Snyders assembly cut with sfx and other post production + a few new scenes

 

[fonzerrillii]

This reminds me of when I watched the Extra extended versions of Lord of Rings... that also had hours of extra footage but even then it still felt like the same movie.... this doesn't

 

[fonzerrillii]

Exactly . I wouldnt waste time arguing with him. He the one who had them asinine complaints in the mandalorian thread when Luke came through.

Oh yeah that... that's right.... good looking out... I forgot about that...

 

[fonzerrillii]

no and yes

there was never a Snyder Cut

Snyder finished filming and delivered an assembly cut of JL before leaving / forced out

Whedon then reshot +80% of JL that was released in theatres

whats on HBOMax today is Snyders assembly cut with sfx and other post production + a few new scenes

It is blowing my mind how much was shot and that Warner was completely cool with leaving out.

Like Steppenwolf works so much better here....

Like he is fucking working his ass off for these cubes now.... and it makes even more sense because in this cut... He has CLEAR FUCKING Motivation

 

[playahaitian]

Im straight tripping that this is basically an entirely different movie.....

I don't think I've seen a directors cut like this before.... This is an achievement

This reminds me of when I watched the Extra extended versions of Lord of Rings... that also had hours of extra footage but even then it still felt like the same movie.... this doesn't

yes

no and yes

there was never a Snyder Cut

Snyder finished filming and delivered an assembly cut of JL before leaving / forced out

Whedon then reshot +80% of JL that was released in theatres

whats on HBOMax today is Snyders assembly cut with sfx and other post production + a few new scenes

OK

So THAT answers my questions completely.

 

[darth frosty]

The reason why he didn't save his father is dumb.

How is going to watch their family member die when the have the power to save them.

I don't care what his father said. It was an easy save.

As an intelligent human being, to watch that scene and not feel insulted is beyond me.

It is just DUMB.

His father could have died of a heart attack and the drama could have still been there.

Cause Superman truly could not save him from that situation.

Smh at you thinking that movie was good.

 

[playahaitian]

Hold on based on what you two are telling me?

@ViCiouS @fonzerrillii

If you add the budget for the first Justice League movie

the budget for the Whedon version

and now the budget for the HBO MAX version...

could THIS be the most expensive film of all time?

hold on I am including advertising promotions dollars too

 

[yaBoi]

got it cued up and ready for when i get off..... popcorn ready

 

[darth frosty]

Warner/DC..

It is blowing my mind how much was shot and that Warner was completely cool with leaving out.

Like Steppenwolf works so much better here....

Like he is fucking working his ass off for these cubes now.... and it makes even more sense because in this cut... He has CLEAR FUCKING Motivation

Here is the thing for all who liked the snyder cut...

Thanks to the fucking WB bean counters we never could have gotten this version!!!

These are the same idiots who edited out Jimmy olsen INTRODUCING HIMSELF AS JIMMY OLSEN IN BvS?!?

They mandated that this fucking movie come in with a run time of 2 hrs or less?!?

THIS IS THE DUMBEST IDEA IN THE WORLD.

THESE DUMB ASSHATS ARE TRYING TO REGULATE A COMIC BASED MOVIE, WITH THE SAME METRICS USED FOR FUCKING WHEN HARRY MET SALLY OR PRETTY WOMAN?!?

Ok so you edit out all of the shit that makes a comic book movie makes sense, for the purpose of having 2 more screening per day...what the fuck does that really accomplish for the box office revenue?

You get an extra 2 showings at 945 am and 12 noon...SOOO FUCKING WHAT.

Most of the old retired farts who go to movies at that time are not really checking for comic book movies and those few who are can barely budge the box office money needle.

So these idiots are so worried about getting the runtime under 2 hrs for more screen showings (and in their minds more box office revenue) they overlook the fact that the highest grossing movie of all time (Avatar) had a fucking 2:49 runtime!!!

Shit Titanic was 3:15

 

[durham]

I thought this version was fantastic. Man DC messed up not putting this in the theaters. I do wish they would have developed the back story of the flash better, and I hate the chick who played Lois.

 

[fonzerrillii]

Why the fuck wasn't this version of the Flash in the movie version ...

Like that line "I just short of push people and run away" line ... bothered me for a minute .... In this movie he feels like a dude who has been doing hero shit for at least a while now...

 

[fonzerrillii]

Exactly ... Like this was one of my favorite parts ..

He knew what his son was about to do ..... yet he loved his son so much and was so worried that the world was not going to accept him that the last thing he did was tell his son not to save him...

Like that was a huge moment .... and went to define the version of Superman that lives in this Universe.

The Other flashbacks showed Clark using his powers when necessary to save people .... but this time ... there is no way that he could have done it without exposing himself to the world. Jonathan just wanted to protect him. Huge Shit...

 

[fonzerrillii]

Here is the thing for all who liked the snyder cut...

Thanks to the fucking WB bean counters we never could have gotten this version!!!

These are the same idiots who edited out Jimmy olsen INTRODUCING HIMSELF AS JIMMY OLSEN IN BvS?!?

They mandated that this fucking movie come in with a run time of 2 hrs or les?!?

THIS IS THE DUMBEST IDEA IN THE WORLD.

THESE DUMB ASSHATS ARE TRYING TO REGULATE A COMIC BASED MOVIE, WITH THE SAME METRICS USED FOR FUCKING WHEN HARRY MET SALLY OR PRETTY WOMAN?!?

Ok so you edit out all of the shit that makes a comic book movie makes sense, for the purpose of having 2 more screening per day...what the fuck does that really accomplish for the box office revenew?

You get an extra 2 showings at 945 am and 12 noon...SOOO FUCKING WHAT.

Most of the old retired farts who go to movies at that time are not really checking for comic book movies and those few who are can barely budge the box office money needle.

So these idiots are so worried about getting the runtime under 2 hrs for more screen showings (and in their minds more box office revenue) they overlook the fact that the highest grossing movie of all time (Avatar) had a fucking 2:49 runtime!!!

Shit Titanic was 3:15

"Thanks to the fucking WB bean counters we never could have gotten this version!!!"

All of this.... Facts!!

I do have issues with Snyder .... but the man does have a vision for his shit. Like it or hate it ..

At least let him drop his vision and then bitch about it.

I gave BVS and Justice League the full OCK treatment when they both dropped

I thought BVS was an all time stinker

But I changed my mind when I saw the Extended version ... its a much better movie completely because it makes sense

Like this movie here... is making way more sense

Like the team getting together moment .... seems organic now.

 

[julian]

DC is so stupid. This was a great movie and made me wanna see the epic conclusion when Darkseid comes. Why would they put that original piece of shit out when this was the real movie. Marvel would never have wasted time and resources with a half assed version of Endgame and thats why they stay winning.