Just saw The Town ...it was Set It Off with Boston Trash

[KP404]

True. I liked both movies. Ben Affleck has directed two good/almost great movies IMO. Gone Baby Gone and The Town. I love movies that have you rooting for the bad guy. Especially if the bad guy isn't really a bad guy, just a guy making the most of a fucked up situation. I really felt that way with Affleck's character. The situation with his mother and going from him totally not understanding to understanding to well I'm not gonna give it away; to the way he dealt with the girl i.e. not killing her because she was a witness.

Affleck's character really conflicted with his friend's character, the crazy one who reacts rather than thinks his way out of problems, Affleck's character was more cerebral, which goes to show why he was the leader of the crew and so well respected by the florist, so much so that the florist refused to let him out of doing the job.

The part that got me whooping was the part with the cop in the car and how he turned his head as if to say..."Fuck THAT." FUcking sweet.

I don't know how you cannot like this movie. FOr all of the movie coincidences and typical stuff, it was different enough to respect. With all of the Michael Bay nonsense out there it is not often that a decent movie gets the credit it deserves because most so-called movie fans just wanna see shit blow up regardless of whether or not it is a decent script with a good plot. I enjoyed Set it Off as well, and they were not the same kind of movie with their similarities being only a group of friends and bank heists. All heist movies aren't the same and shouldn't be judged the same, either. Both did what they wanted to do well which is keep our interest and keep us talking about them months and/or years after their release.

Good post

 

[Mike In Bmore]

The Town >>> Set it Off

 

[geechiedan]

True. I liked both movies. Ben Affleck has directed two good/almost great movies IMO. Gone Baby Gone and The Town. I love movies that have you rooting for the bad guy. Especially if the bad guy isn't really a bad guy, just a guy making the most of a fucked up situation. I really felt that way with Affleck's character. The situation with his mother and going from him totally not understanding to understanding to well I'm not gonna give it away; to the way he dealt with the girl i.e. not killing her because she was a witness.

Affleck's character really conflicted with his friend's character, the crazy one who reacts rather than thinks his way out of problems, Affleck's character was more cerebral, which goes to show why he was the leader of the crew and so well respected by the florist, so much so that the florist refused to let him out of doing the job.

The part that got me whooping was the part with the cop in the car and how he turned his head as if to say..."Fuck THAT." FUcking sweet.

I don't know how you cannot like this movie. FOr all of the movie coincidences and typical stuff, it was different enough to respect. With all of the Michael Bay nonsense out there it is not often that a decent movie gets the credit it deserves because most so-called movie fans just wanna see shit blow up regardless of whether or not it is a decent script with a good plot. I enjoyed Set it Off as well, and they were not the same kind of movie with their similarities being only a group of friends and bank heists. All heist movies aren't the same and shouldn't be judged the same, either. Both did what they wanted to do well which is keep our interest and keep us talking about them months and/or years after their release.

really...if Set It Off came out AFTER the town are you gonna tell that no one would say "oh they just ripped off The Town"

and their silimarlites were more than just friends and bank heists..

The lead character falls in love with the bank manager of a bank they just robbed!! that happens in both films

I'm not gonna affleck ripped off parts of a movie that came out 17 years ago but damn thats a coincidence

 

[ViCiouS]

You're either a movie person or you're not... Comparing Set it Off to the Town is like comparing Super Friends to Justice League Unlimited.

Set It Off was a linear story, almost no complications, with limited character depth. From the beginning of the movie to the end, your impressions of the main characters never change, nor are you given a reason to. You had 4 desperate girls who learned how to rob banks on the go. Never learning to think a job all the way through and plan an escape and a contingency. The main theme - they really really need the $. or desperate bitches do desperate things...

The Town - 4 professional criminals (like in Heat), they grew up in the game, they all held down legit jobs, and they know every trick and tool in the book of robbing banks / armored cars. Not desperate, not hurting for cash... As the story unfolds and history is revealed, a greater understanding of Affleck's character, his father, and their relationship develops...

While these are both heist movies, its two different character sets with very different circumstances... compare Town, to Bank Job or Heat, compare Set it Off to Dead Presidents...

just cause you like a flik doesnt mean it was well made or well written... I've seen a lot of good movies (shot beautifully, almost no plot holes, well paced...) that I hated, and I've seen shitty movies that I loved (Equilibrium, Boondock Saints)

 

[tallblacknyc]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wow set it off to dead presidents...not even in the same class dead presidents>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>set it off... the town>>>>>>>>>>>>set it off... dead presidents>>>>>the town

 

[ViCiouS]

different circumstances, different character set - I wouldn't compare the Town to Dead Presidents...

 

[Amajorfucup]

Set It Off was a linear story, almost no complications, with limited character depth...

This is just the shit that makes your assessment lose credibility and appear like a poor attempt to justify your bias. I truly dont see how one could criticize one film for having one-dimensional characters and not do the same for the other. There was nothing complicated or layered about the characters in The Town. They were standard heist film personalities, even down to the cops and agent chasing down the bad guys. They were slacker loser locals who were career criminals who made a "living" out of doing something as outlandish and absurd as robbing neighborhood banks.

And i wont even get into the lunacy of painting The Town as some complicated character driven masterpiece while discounting Dead Presidents as something to be grouped with Set It Off, a movie you seem to view as an inferior product.

 

[ViCiouS]

this is what you missed... the Town isn't about a bunch of characters, it has one main character all others are secondary, you were only given a window into one life, everything you saw pertained to or effected this one character's story arc...

Character and POV wise - Set it Off is a completly different movie...

 

[4North1Side2]

Set It Off>>>The Town

 

[Amajorfucup]

this is what you missed... the Town isn't about a bunch of characters, it has one main character all others are secondary, you were only given a window into one life, everything you saw pertained to or effected this one character's story arc...

Character and POV wise - Set it Off is a completely different movie...

Thats fine (and actually i've said as much about it not being about a bunch of characters) and all but that doesnt coincide what you say or insinuate here:

Set It Off was a linear story, almost no complications, with limited character depth...

Here, one would infer that since you are comparing the two films that this statement is used to show how it differs from The Town. One would then conclude that you seem to think The Town has complicated characters with depth and a story that is multi layered (relative to Set It Off). I just completely disagree. I found it to be quite simplistic and shallow, not well written and a bit hole filled. Also, the acting was subpar at best and some points were flat out ridiculous.

I did enjoy the chase scene and some of the action but overall it was just a decent flick.

 

[ViCiouS]

Set it Off was 4 chicks - all you knew about them was their desperation for $. The Town was about one character -that character's motives, history, and relationships are the movie. The complexities of his life drive the story. Why are you looking for complexity from the other characters -its not their story. Thats why I keep saying they're very different movies.

Why is The Town a deeper flick than Set it Off? At he end of the movie, you know more about the Town's one main character, than you do about the four main characters in Set it Off... His motives are more complex, a wider range of relationships were shared with the audience as well as more of his history...

 

[P03t]

True. I liked both movies. Ben Affleck has directed two good/almost great movies IMO. Gone Baby Gone and The Town. I love movies that have you rooting for the bad guy. Especially if the bad guy isn't really a bad guy, just a guy making the most of a fucked up situation. I really felt that way with Affleck's character. The situation with his mother and going from him totally not understanding to understanding to well I'm not gonna give it away; to the way he dealt with the girl i.e. not killing her because she was a witness.

Affleck's character really conflicted with his friend's character, the crazy one who reacts rather than thinks his way out of problems, Affleck's character was more cerebral, which goes to show why he was the leader of the crew and so well respected by the florist, so much so that the florist refused to let him out of doing the job.

The part that got me whooping was the part with the cop in the car and how he turned his head as if to say..."Fuck THAT." FUcking sweet.

I don't know how you cannot like this movie. FOr all of the movie coincidences and typical stuff, it was different enough to respect. With all of the Michael Bay nonsense out there it is not often that a decent movie gets the credit it deserves because most so-called movie fans just wanna see shit blow up regardless of whether or not it is a decent script with a good plot. I enjoyed Set it Off as well, and they were not the same kind of movie with their similarities being only a group of friends and bank heists. All heist movies aren't the same and shouldn't be judged the same, either. Both did what they wanted to do well which is keep our interest and keep us talking about them months and/or years after their release.

both movies were dope IMO....

 

[thundercat]

I loved Set it Off(minus Kimberly Elise), but The Town was better....a lot better. Great acting from an ensemble cast and a more realistic story line.

 

[CarryOn]

Because surviving, riding a bus and leaving a duffle bag of cash in a garden is way more realistic.

didnt say one was more realistic then the other, i really cant say much about one then the other because i saw "set it off" 13 or more years ago and just didnt find it interesting.

this is an example of what RACIAL CONDITIONING can do..

or watching a movie full of mediocre actors over a decade ago can do.

 

[gameboy]

wow! @ kats calling "set it off" an ok to subpar movie,,, easily one of my favs,,, all the nonsense in this thread just convinced me to check out "the town" asap tho,,, i love bank robbery flicks, but most of em let me down ("dead presidents" & "armored" come to mind )

 

[Bumpee]

wow! @ kats calling "set it off" an ok to subpar movie,,, easily one of my favs,,, all the nonsense in this thread just convinced me to check out "the town" asap tho,,, i love bank robbery flicks, but most of em let me down ("dead presidents" & "armored" come to mind )

On a side note, Armored was a big fuckin disappointment

 

[gameboy]

On a side note, Armored was a big fuckin disappointment

armored fuckin sucked bro!,,, i walked out of the theater mad like i had been scammed,,,

the reason "set it off" is one of my favs is because, while most movies spend the whole movie planning out 1 job,,, "set it off" was like fuck it,,, we are doing multiple jobs & going all out in process,,, very little planning, but lots of action

 

[Brother Blues]

I thought the Town was a pretty good movie....

I use to work with a bunch of guys from Charlestown...and the movie depicted a part of life there.

Bank robbery,armored car jacks was tradition...your father did it,your uncles,brothers and so on.

When a bank or truck was hit in Boston,or nearby...first things the cops did was close to bridge to Charlestown.

Of course as I was told,a lot of guys got busted because some of them would wear their 'Mickey,class of 71' Charlestown high jackets

Brain surgeons they are not....

 

[Onpoint]

As much as I have enjoyed Set it off (watched it many times over the years), I do think The Town is the better movie.

c/s

 

[ANGRY MAN]

I thought the town was the best movie in 2010.The mask in the bank was tight,Thought it was gangster how the nuns pulled up on that park cop, and the cop look the other way.They switched it up and rob a stadium.Set it off to me isn't believable 4 chicks robbing banks yeah right..Females are to emotional,would you really believe a chick with a gun trying to rob you?I would start laughing...How many times did them broads start crying?The town both of his partners got shot and Ben didn't start crying!

 

[geechiedan]

Set it Off was 4 chicks - all you knew about them was their desperation for $. The Town was about one character -that character's motives, history, and relationships are the movie. The complexities of his life drive the story. Why are you looking for complexity from the other characters -its not their story. Thats why I keep saying they're very different movies.

Why is The Town a deeper flick than Set it Off? At he end of the movie, you know more about the Town's one main character, than you do about the four main characters in Set it Off... His motives are more complex, a wider range of relationships were shared with the audience as well as more of his history...

his father was a loser and his mother was a mystery until the big reveal...he grew up around a bunch of losers and therefore became one himself..its interesting to point but its not really that complex.

At the end of the day he just wanted to get away from the shit around him...wasn't that basically jada's motivation as well?

 

[geechiedan]

I thought the town was the best movie in 2010.The mask in the bank was tight,Thought it was gangster how the nuns pulled up on that park cop, and the cop look the other way.They switched it up and rob a stadium.Set it off to me isn't believable 4 chicks robbing banks yeah right..Females are to emotional,would you really believe a chick with a gun trying to rob you?I would start laughing...How many times did them broads start crying?The town both of his partners got shot and Ben didn't start crying!

It was the bank heist version of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

A Chicago woman held up a TCF Bank over the Memorial Day weekend — in part to repay the $20,000 she had been caught embezzling from a Chase Bank where she worked, federal authorities alleged.

Navahcia Edwards, 23, was arrested Thursday on charges that she dressed up as a nun and donned a mask, took over the TCF Bank in Palos Heights at gunpoint and fled with $120,000 in cash from the vault. She had once worked at that bank as well.

Three weeks earlier, she had been charged in the same Dirksen U.S. Courthouse with bank embezzlement. While a teller at a Chase Bank branch in Country Club Hills in April, she allegedly walked off with about $20,000 in cash by replacing $100 bills with singles in bundles of cash.

In the TCF Bank holdup May 29, Edwards and a male accomplice who is not in custody appeared to have borrowed from the movie "The Town" in choosing their full-body disguises, which included distorted, scary-looking masks and long-flowing nun robes that characters in the movie used in bank robberies.

But according to authorities, Edwards still managed to leave a rich trail of evidence, including receipts of the purchases of the nun's costumes and the rental of the alleged getaway car.

The criminal complaint lodged against Edwards hinted at a motive: Two weeks earlier, she had promised Chase bank officials that she expected to repay the rest of the money she had allegedly confessed to stealing.

"It's great physical and incidental evidence, but it took a great deal of effort to put all those pieces together," said Ross Rice, a spokesman for the Chicago FBI office, which investigated the case with Palos Heights police.

Edwards was ordered held in custody until a detention hearing Thursday.

About two weeks before the TCF Bank robbery, Edwards allegedly purchased two "Adult Funny Nun Costumes" and two "Nun on the Run Adult Masks" with a prepaid debit card that she bought at a currency exchange she regularly frequents. The purchase was caught on a security camera, and an employee at the currency exchange recognized Edwards during the purchase, according to the charges.

Edwards also used the card to buy white zip ties from a south suburban hardware store. The zip ties appear to match those used to tie the hands of two tellers in the TCF Bank robbery, federal authorities said.

The car rented by Edwards also was believed to have been used in the TCF robbery based on video surveillance of the getaway car at the robbery scene, according to the complaint.

Edwards and her accomplice stormed the bank with handguns, jumped over counters and forced tellers to open the vault, authorities charged. While her accomplice held a gun against a teller's head, Edwards avoided anti-theft devices and a vault that kept only coins in order to retrieve the $120,000, tipping authorities off that the robber likely had inside knowledge.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ry-20110701_1_chase-bank-getaway-car-tcf-bank

hey angry man...SIT YOUR ASS DOWN!!

 

[mit_dropout]

The big difference is that YOU'RE an idiot.

Totally different films in EVERY way, from plot to production quality to budget to the talent involved. I don't think Set It Off was inspired by the great '70s Boston film The Friends of Eddie Coyle, or the novel Prince of Thieves.

lmao @ the opening sentence.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Set it Off was 4 chicks - all you knew about them was their desperation for $. The Town was about one character -that character's motives, history, and relationships are the movie. The complexities of his life drive the story. Why are you looking for complexity from the other characters -its not their story. Thats why I keep saying they're very different movies.

Why is The Town a deeper flick than Set it Off? At he end of the movie, you know more about the Town's one main character, than you do about the four main characters in Set it Off... His motives are more complex, a wider range of relationships were shared with the audience as well as more of his history...

Im not looking for complexity at all. Im responding to the posts that continue to harp on the term. As far as character background, i know as much about Jada Pinketts characters as i did about Aflecks. They did a great job of showing her story and motive and morals. To pretend that The Town did what Set It Off didnt in this regard is just not true bro.

I loved Set it Off(minus Kimberly Elise), but The Town was better....a lot better. Great acting from an ensemble cast and a more realistic story line.

Better acting? More realistic?!! Are you serious? The lead was Ben Afleck and the love interest was a chick they originally kidnapped.

 

[geechiedan]

lmao @ the opening sentence.

suck a dick..laugh at that

 

[tallblacknyc]

a very slept on thing in da town was f.b.i tactics...how niggas be watching dudes for years and know your every move..to how they take da smallest thing and break open da case.. hell the bar scene alone was cold how the fed dude walked up to shorty and started talking about the 20 dollar bill than drop knowledge about her illegal doins

 

[ShadyPat]

a very slept on thing in da town was f.b.i tactics...how niggas be watching dudes for years and know your every move..to how they take da smallest thing and break open da case.. hell the bar scene alone was cold how the fed dude walked up to shorty and started talking about the 20 dollar bill than drop knowledge about her illegal doins

yeah that scene was FIRE!!!

 

[godofwine]

I'm sorry. When you are doing shit like his USE CASH!!! Cash is not traceable. I understand getting caught because you got caught. But getting caught because you left bread crumbs Stevie Wonder could follow...

It was the bank heist version of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

A Chicago woman held up a TCF Bank over the Memorial Day weekend — in part to repay the $20,000 she had been caught embezzling from a Chase Bank where she worked, federal authorities alleged.

Navahcia Edwards, 23, was arrested Thursday on charges that she dressed up as a nun and donned a mask, took over the TCF Bank in Palos Heights at gunpoint and fled with $120,000 in cash from the vault. She had once worked at that bank as well.

Three weeks earlier, she had been charged in the same Dirksen U.S. Courthouse with bank embezzlement. While a teller at a Chase Bank branch in Country Club Hills in April, she allegedly walked off with about $20,000 in cash by replacing $100 bills with singles in bundles of cash.

In the TCF Bank holdup May 29, Edwards and a male accomplice who is not in custody appeared to have borrowed from the movie "The Town" in choosing their full-body disguises, which included distorted, scary-looking masks and long-flowing nun robes that characters in the movie used in bank robberies.

But according to authorities, Edwards still managed to leave a rich trail of evidence, including receipts of the purchases of the nun's costumes and the rental of the alleged getaway car.

The criminal complaint lodged against Edwards hinted at a motive: Two weeks earlier, she had promised Chase bank officials that she expected to repay the rest of the money she had allegedly confessed to stealing.

"It's great physical and incidental evidence, but it took a great deal of effort to put all those pieces together," said Ross Rice, a spokesman for the Chicago FBI office, which investigated the case with Palos Heights police.

Edwards was ordered held in custody until a detention hearing Thursday.

About two weeks before the TCF Bank robbery, Edwards allegedly purchased two "Adult Funny Nun Costumes" and two "Nun on the Run Adult Masks" with a prepaid debit card that she bought at a currency exchange she regularly frequents. The purchase was caught on a security camera, and an employee at the currency exchange recognized Edwards during the purchase, according to the charges.

Edwards also used the card to buy white zip ties from a south suburban hardware store. The zip ties appear to match those used to tie the hands of two tellers in the TCF Bank robbery, federal authorities said.

The car rented by Edwards also was believed to have been used in the TCF robbery based on video surveillance of the getaway car at the robbery scene, according to the complaint.

Edwards and her accomplice stormed the bank with handguns, jumped over counters and forced tellers to open the vault, authorities charged. While her accomplice held a gun against a teller's head, Edwards avoided anti-theft devices and a vault that kept only coins in order to retrieve the $120,000, tipping authorities off that the robber likely had inside knowledge.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ry-20110701_1_chase-bank-getaway-car-tcf-bank

hey angry man...SIT YOUR ASS DOWN!!

 

[ANGRY MAN]

I give you that good stuff.( lmao) She did what she had to do.

It was the bank heist version of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

A Chicago woman held up a TCF Bank over the Memorial Day weekend — in part to repay the $20,000 she had been caught embezzling from a Chase Bank where she worked, federal authorities alleged.

Navahcia Edwards, 23, was arrested Thursday on charges that she dressed up as a nun and donned a mask, took over the TCF Bank in Palos Heights at gunpoint and fled with $120,000 in cash from the vault. She had once worked at that bank as well.

Three weeks earlier, she had been charged in the same Dirksen U.S. Courthouse with bank embezzlement. While a teller at a Chase Bank branch in Country Club Hills in April, she allegedly walked off with about $20,000 in cash by replacing $100 bills with singles in bundles of cash.

In the TCF Bank holdup May 29, Edwards and a male accomplice who is not in custody appeared to have borrowed from the movie "The Town" in choosing their full-body disguises, which included distorted, scary-looking masks and long-flowing nun robes that characters in the movie used in bank robberies.

But according to authorities, Edwards still managed to leave a rich trail of evidence, including receipts of the purchases of the nun's costumes and the rental of the alleged getaway car.

The criminal complaint lodged against Edwards hinted at a motive: Two weeks earlier, she had promised Chase bank officials that she expected to repay the rest of the money she had allegedly confessed to stealing.

"It's great physical and incidental evidence, but it took a great deal of effort to put all those pieces together," said Ross Rice, a spokesman for the Chicago FBI office, which investigated the case with Palos Heights police.

Edwards was ordered held in custody until a detention hearing Thursday.

About two weeks before the TCF Bank robbery, Edwards allegedly purchased two "Adult Funny Nun Costumes" and two "Nun on the Run Adult Masks" with a prepaid debit card that she bought at a currency exchange she regularly frequents. The purchase was caught on a security camera, and an employee at the currency exchange recognized Edwards during the purchase, according to the charges.

Edwards also used the card to buy white zip ties from a south suburban hardware store. The zip ties appear to match those used to tie the hands of two tellers in the TCF Bank robbery, federal authorities said.

The car rented by Edwards also was believed to have been used in the TCF robbery based on video surveillance of the getaway car at the robbery scene, according to the complaint.

Edwards and her accomplice stormed the bank with handguns, jumped over counters and forced tellers to open the vault, authorities charged. While her accomplice held a gun against a teller's head, Edwards avoided anti-theft devices and a vault that kept only coins in order to retrieve the $120,000, tipping authorities off that the robber likely had inside knowledge.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ry-20110701_1_chase-bank-getaway-car-tcf-bank

hey angry man...SIT YOUR ASS DOWN!!

 

[CarryOn]

^^^dumbass broad, dumb as shit!