Well your point is lost if they are not making fun as you said but merely imitating to create a movie.
I'm gonna check that movie out tonight.
Just like the first, Coming to America 2 continues the derogatory & insults to Africans
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Well your point is lost if they are not making fun as you said but merely imitating to create a movie.
I'm gonna check that movie out tonight.
What kind of black American influence is in the movie Tshaka Zulu?
What part of the clothes worn by these people here is influenced by black Americans?
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You supported Trump.
Exactly. And has the audacity to post bullshit like this when Trump literally called countries in Africa "shit holes"
There is a huge difference between criticism/critique and just being a contrarian...
If this is woke they been up too late and need to go to bed....this shit insane.God I fucking hate woke faggits, whatever happened to escapism
but they are not being marketed as black history
You mean like Sambo and blackface movies and ministrel shows, why not?whatever happened to escapism
The n-word is just a joke. Donald Trump and any other white person should
be free to say it.
Dude, there is literally a guy in the front wearing a Led Zeplan t-shirt. Black Americans made it cool to rock those types of shirts again.What kind of black American influence is in the movie Tshaka Zulu?
What part of the clothes worn by these people here is influenced by black American
influence?
The influence is extremely apparent. If you remove the traditional African clothing and military, this photo looks like a snapshot from the 70's and 80's U.S.A.What kind of black American influence is in the movie Tshaka Zulu?
What part of the clothes worn by these people here is influenced by black American
influence?
White folks acting in blackface and black people portraying other black folk in jest is nowhere the same. C'mon @Nzinga . I agree that how Americans, in general, see Africans isn't always in a positive light. But, in most instances, it is the same as black folk poking fun at each other. We are harder on ourselves than we are on other cultures.
How is coming to America a minstrel show?
You are delusional. T-Shirts were invented, and sown by white people. Led Zepellin
is a white band. All of the clothes worn here are European clothes. The people who brought
this sort of clothing to Africa are Europeans. This has nothing to do with black America.
You are now indulging in juvenile antics. Do black Americans own any clothing factory?
Most of the European clothes worn here were made in Tanzania itself, as is the case in
all African countries.
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Please read the excellent explanation that started this thread
It is absolutely the same. When you people make fun of us Africans
are stupid, large booty scratchers, we take offense to it. What I have
found is that black Americans think that Africans are fair game to
belittle and patronise. If you say even the smallest thing to them, you
have committed a capital offense. Case in point, look at what happened
to Akon.
linkHollywood films about Africa are just that: results of the Hollywood imagination, divorced from reality. Carefully crafted frames and soundbites only too eager to exploit the ignorance of the common viewer, someone who has little to no knowledge of Africa, who is willing to think of the continent as one, homogenous place, instead of home to dozens of countries and thousands of cultures.
A viewer who is, most importantly, not African, and will not challenge the images that have been presented to them.
Its still the same garbage they gave us 30 years ago. One might argue that they would have made progress after the first which was released at a time when American audiences had very little exposure to the varied realities of life across the African continent.
30 yrs later American audiences have been exposed to more complete and authentic accounts of African life, in part thanks to the global impact of the internet. And the increase in interest in African stories across television and film has also been of influence in increasing familiarity, especially as Africans themselves become even more active in reclaiming their narratives while targeting global audiences on every platform in the social media.
Lets see from the first:
1. Prince Akeem, cannot find an intelligent woman in Africa so he travels to Queens in New York City to find an American woman who will “arouse his intellect as well as his loins.” How’s that for starters?
2. African women in particular, did not have in the first and dont expect much in this second. The African women are voiceless and hyper-sexualized – a direct reflection of colonial mentality.
3.The topless harems that Akeem has to “bathe” him every morning are identical to the images of African women that appeared on postcards during the British, Portuguese, French, Dutch and German colonialism in Africa. Wazungu (White people in Swahili) aka CACS in the bush would send the postcards to other white men back in Europe to brag about the “looseness” of African women. The image of bare-breasted black and brown women was symbolic of dispossession, not to mention demeaning.
At least Ryan Coogler and his team traveled the African continent to create their version of Wakanda from authentic reference points (though he gave us
4. African-American women in the film fare no better. Cssepoint, montage of mental cases in the nightclub scene below, and pay close attention to Akeem’s analysis on the street afterward.. basically he joked about going to “Africa” to find an ignorant “bush bitch” to marry, rather than tolerate what he implied are conniving American women, whom he painted as gold-diggers. That view of African women is an ugly one, presenting them as mute, unintelligent, and hypersexual beings.
5. the royal occupants of the palace in Zamunda, as well as the Africans that attend the engagement party are “blackened whites.” They are all stock figures of upper class white European culture of yore (think Britain's Jane Austen), but their difference from that culture is marked namely by their blackness.
6. Africans watching the film will be far more watchful of how the continent is portrayed (and perhaps we’ll finally understand where the King Jaffe Joffer got all that money at a time when the World Bank and IMF’s Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) were reshaping sub-Saharan economies.
7. It’s insulting to believe that American accents are ideal conduits to showcase the diversity of African accents. These pseudo-American-African accents were constant reminders of Hollywood’s deep misunderstanding of African people.
Brewer and his team could have done their homework and check out films from Senegalese Ousmane Sembène’s post-independence social satires “Xala” and “Mandabi,” to Nigerien Rahmatou Keïta’s royal romantic drama “The Wedding Ring,” about a Nigerian princess sent to France to study, where she falls in love with a prince, and more.
After all, there is no shortage of African filmmakers who could have done wonders with a revised take on the “Coming to America” premise. Possible notables y might have been “I Am Not a Witch” director Rungano Nyoni, a Zambian filmmaker who has already shown her penchant for satirizing perceptions of modern-day Africa. Also, Nigerian filmmaker Kenneth Gyang, whose acclaimed dark comedy “Confusion Na Wa” won an African Academy Award, then there’s Congolese filmmaker Djo Tunda Wa Munga, who made the unabashedly commercial thriller “Viva Riva,” which he intended to counter dominant perceptions of African cinema as rudimentary and didactic.
But accountability also matters. Africans living in America at the time of the first film’s release suffered through countless emotional “Coming to America” jokes — and, for some, the film’s depictions of Africa and Africans only helped further an ignorance that was prevalent at the time. For example, in Zamunda, animals that would be normally found in Serengeti or Ngorongoro are seen casually walking amongst Zamundans, which is not at all the reality for the vast majority of Africans be it in Tanzania, Zambia, Namibia, Congo, Kenya or Gabon to name a few.
Almost forgot how Africans were insulted with those fake African Accents in Black Panther.
King T’Challa, played by the late Chadwick Boseman, was supposed to be a South African one. Xhosa was allegedly the King’s native tongue. What Africans found instead was an over-exaggerated inflection, a strange slip into self-parody of a South African.
MZANSI, Cape Town Beach
As a black American, I have to tell you brother, this response is ignorant and highly offensive. To equate black Americans emulating Africans to racist blackface and minstrel shows?
Statements like this is what black Americans feel as though some Africans are out of touch and can not possibly truly empathize with black amercans and our plight.
Not sure what you mean here. We love Akon and support his music and efforts in Africa. Although, he has said some ignorant ish in the past, also showing his inability to empathize with black American plight.
You made my point. Any little slight to you is a capitol offense. You can deride Africans all day
as much as you want and it is just humour. Think about what you said. It is ok for Eddie Murphy
to depict Africans as buffoons, but saying anything you do not like is highly offensive. All this
time, you are the same fellow who has been saying that it is ok for black Americans to say things
that are offensive to Africans. No one is going to shed any tears over your hurt feelings, but then
maybe you will learn to respect other people
And your response has proven why some brothers on this board have so much disdain for some ignorant immigrants.
Black Americans have never oppressed Africans and then mocked them by using make up and other aesthetics to play up stereotypes. If anything, we mimic African accents and wear dashikis in portraying African people.
If you think crackas wearing blackface is the same as characters such as those seen in Coming to America, you are part of the problem. Additionally, you have unfortunately proven that you are put of touch and unqualified to say anything about the black American experience.
With one comment, you have drawn a line in the sand.
This is like complaining about the fact that Superman doesn't wear goggles when he flies.God I fucking hate woke faggits, whatever happened to escapism
whatever
I feel like a string puppet. The OP starts a provocative thread; the rest of
us get in a fist cuff over it, while he stands aside says nothing more. I will
wait 24 hours. If the OP does not participate in or promote his own thread,
I will delete all of my comments
us get in a fist cuff over it, while he stands aside says nothing more. I will
wait 24 hours. If the OP does not participate in or promote his own thread,
I will delete all of my comments
I am waiting for this derogatory movie to become available.
ITS A FUCKING COMEDY.
Sambo and Black Face movies were also comedies; there are a lot of white
people who say "nigg*r" as a joke.
Bro, please stop equating that racist ish to black movies. It's not the same. You are really showing your true self today.
You speak for yourself I will speak for me. I am not impressed with you either.
You seem to think it is ok for black Americans to Sambofy Africans.
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Tito be spinning yaw niggus
Lmaooo
Lmaooo
Sambofy??
My dude, I've called you out on many times about you self proclaiming to be an authority on all things African. There are 54. countries in Africa. You can not possibly know everything about everything about the continent.
With that being said, Africans are the biggest sambos in their own movies. We could never match the level of cooning, samboing, and slap sticking that appears in African movies. Every black American depiction of Africans you name, I can find 20 African films that show the same or worse.
Look at these Oscar worthy performances.
These are ALL African made movies.
The thing is, I do not have a problem with it. It's entertainment. Yet, in your attempt to be the protector of all things African, you refuse to acknowledge that even in Africa, they too find enjoyment in exaggerating stereotypes of our people.
Lastly, I have never seen one African movie where at least one of the actors doesn't do the sambo "bug eyes." Not one.
So stop it. You've already showed the board that you are insensitive to the black American experience. Equating Coming to America and Black Panther to racist minstrel shows and blackface is offensive, insensitive, and ignorant.
This is completely stupid. You do not know what was happening in the movies, do notSambofy??
My dude, I've called you out on many times about you self proclaiming to be an authority on all things African. There are 54. countries in Africa. You can not possibly know everything about the continent.
With that being said, Africans are the biggest sambos in their own movies. We could never match the level of cloning and rambling that appears in African movies. Every black American depiction of Africans you name, I can find 20 African films that show the same or worse.
Look at these Oscar worthy performances.
The thing is, I do not have a problem with it. It's entertainment. Yet, in your attempt to be the protector of all things African, you refuse to acknowledge that even in Africa, they too find enjoyment in exaggerating stereotypes of our people.
Lastly, I have never seen one African movie where at least one of the actors doesn't do the sambo "bug eyes." Not one.
So stop it. You've already showed the board that you are insensitive to the black American experience. Equating Coming to America and Black Panther to racist minstrel shows and blackface offensive, insensitive, and ignorant.
understand Igbo, Pidgin English, Yoruba, Hausa or whatever they were saying in the
damn movie; and yet you have the fucking nerve to call them sambos. Again, we refuse
to be derided by black Americans. You cannot have it one way. If it is ok for you to
Sambofy us, then there is nothing wrong with black face or any white person saying the
word Nigg*r. You black Americans are not a more special and sacred species which asperse
on the whim, but is beyond reproach or reproof.
This is a stupid debate. We are telling you: "Do not insult us in your movies".
There is nothing more to discuss.
Noted
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Good now, stay gone
I'm vindicated
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