Just like the first, Coming to America 2 continues the derogatory & insults to Africans

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Hollywood films about Africa are just that: results of the Hollywood imagination, divorced from reality. Carefully crafted frames and soundbites only too eager to exploit the ignorance of the common viewer, someone who has little to no knowledge of Africa, who is willing to think of the continent as one, homogenous place, instead of home to dozens of countries and thousands of cultures.

A viewer who is, most importantly, not African, and will not challenge the images that have been presented to them.

Its still the same garbage they gave us 30 years ago. One might argue that they would have made progress after the first which was released at a time when American audiences had very little exposure to the varied realities of life across the African continent.

30 yrs later American audiences have been exposed to more complete and authentic accounts of African life, in part thanks to the global impact of the internet. And the increase in interest in African stories across television and film has also been of influence in increasing familiarity, especially as Africans themselves become even more active in reclaiming their narratives while targeting global audiences on every platform in the social media.


Lets see from the first:

1. Prince Akeem, cannot find an intelligent woman in Africa so he travels to Queens in New York City to find an American woman who will “arouse his intellect as well as his loins.” How’s that for starters?

2. African women in particular, did not have in the first and dont expect much in this second. The African women are voiceless and hyper-sexualized – a direct reflection of colonial mentality.

3.The topless harems that Akeem has to “bathe” him every morning are identical to the images of African women that appeared on postcards during the British, Portuguese, French, Dutch and German colonialism in Africa. Wazungu (White people in Swahili) aka CACS in the bush would send the postcards to other white men back in Europe to brag about the “looseness” of African women. The image of bare-breasted black and brown women was symbolic of dispossession, not to mention demeaning.

At least Ryan Coogler and his team traveled the African continent to create their version of Wakanda from authentic reference points (though he gave us

4. African-American women in the film fare no better. Cssepoint, montage of mental cases in the nightclub scene below, and pay close attention to Akeem’s analysis on the street afterward.. basically he joked about going to “Africa” to find an ignorant “bush bitch” to marry, rather than tolerate what he implied are conniving American women, whom he painted as gold-diggers. That view of African women is an ugly one, presenting them as mute, unintelligent, and hypersexual beings.

5. the royal occupants of the palace in Zamunda, as well as the Africans that attend the engagement party are “blackened whites.” They are all stock figures of upper class white European culture of yore (think Britain's Jane Austen), but their difference from that culture is marked namely by their blackness.

6. Africans watching the film will be far more watchful of how the continent is portrayed (and perhaps we’ll finally understand where the King Jaffe Joffer got all that money at a time when the World Bank and IMF’s Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) were reshaping sub-Saharan economies.

7. It’s insulting to believe that American accents are ideal conduits to showcase the diversity of African accents. These pseudo-American-African accents were constant reminders of Hollywood’s deep misunderstanding of African people.

Brewer and his team could have done their homework and check out films from Senegalese Ousmane Sembène’s post-independence social satires “Xala” and “Mandabi,” to Nigerien Rahmatou Keïta’s royal romantic drama “The Wedding Ring,” about a Nigerian princess sent to France to study, where she falls in love with a prince, and more.

After all, there is no shortage of African filmmakers who could have done wonders with a revised take on the “Coming to America” premise. Possible notables y might have been “I Am Not a Witch” director Rungano Nyoni, a Zambian filmmaker who has already shown her penchant for satirizing perceptions of modern-day Africa. Also, Nigerian filmmaker Kenneth Gyang, whose acclaimed dark comedy “Confusion Na Wa” won an African Academy Award, then there’s Congolese filmmaker Djo Tunda Wa Munga, who made the unabashedly commercial thriller “Viva Riva,” which he intended to counter dominant perceptions of African cinema as rudimentary and didactic.

But accountability also matters. Africans living in America at the time of the first film’s release suffered through countless emotional “Coming to America” jokes — and, for some, the film’s depictions of Africa and Africans only helped further an ignorance that was prevalent at the time. For example, in Zamunda, animals that would be normally found in Serengeti or Ngorongoro are seen casually walking amongst Zamundans, which is not at all the reality for the vast majority of Africans be it in Tanzania, Zambia, Namibia, Congo, Kenya or Gabon to name a few.

Almost forgot how Africans were insulted with those fake African Accents in Black Panther.

King T’Challa, played by the late Chadwick Boseman, was supposed to be a South African one. Xhosa was allegedly the King’s native tongue. What Africans found instead was an over-exaggerated inflection, a strange slip into self-parody of a South African.

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I thought it was a play on how geographically ignorant Americans are when it comes to other continents. All the Americans in Coming to America were pretty fucking stupid, and thought Akeem came from some dusty village.

Right so....should we attack ourselves (as Americans) and you have to know this is comedy. However the Black Panther only gave positive attention to Africans. IMHO
 
I started to post a list of movies made in Africa that mock what is deemed to be stereotypical black Americans, but I'm sure that won't be necessary because we already know that both sides do it.

Neither movie was disrespectful to Africa. In fact, both movies sparked a latent curiosity in black Americans which promoted a surge in self awareness.
 
I started to post a list of movies made in Africa that mock what is deemed to be stereotypical black Americans, but I'm sure that won't be necessary because we already know that both sides do it.

Neither movie was disrespectful to Africa. In fact, both movies sparked a latent curiosity in black Americans which promoted a surge in self awareness.

excellent point
 
I started to post a list of movies made in Africa that mock what is deemed to be stereotypical black Americans, but I'm sure that won't be necessary because we already know that both sides do it.

Neither movie was disrespectful to Africa. In fact, both movies sparked a latent curiosity in black Americans which promoted a surge in self awareness.
I wasn't aware of African-made movies that stereotype Black Americans. What are some of the titles?
 
Hollywood films about Africa are just that: results of the Hollywood imagination, divorced from reality. Carefully crafted frames and soundbites only too eager to exploit the ignorance of the common viewer, someone who has little to no knowledge of Africa, who is willing to think of the continent as one, homogenous place, instead of home to dozens of countries and thousands of cultures.

A viewer who is, most importantly, not African, and will not challenge the images that have been presented to them.

Its still the same garbage they gave us 30 years ago. One might argue that they would have made progress after the first which was released at a time when American audiences had very little exposure to the varied realities of life across the African continent.

30 yrs later American audiences have been exposed to more complete and authentic accounts of African life, in part thanks to the global impact of the internet. And the increase in interest in African stories across television and film has also been of influence in increasing familiarity, especially as Africans themselves become even more active in reclaiming their narratives while targeting global audiences on every platform in the social media.


Lets see from the first:

1. Prince Akeem, cannot find an intelligent woman in Africa so he travels to Queens in New York City to find an American woman who will “arouse his intellect as well as his loins.” How’s that for starters?

2. African women in particular, did not have in the first and dont expect much in this second. The African women are voiceless and hyper-sexualized – a direct reflection of colonial mentality.

3.The topless harems that Akeem has to “bathe” him every morning are identical to the images of African women that appeared on postcards during the British, Portuguese, French, Dutch and German colonialism in Africa. Wazungu (White people in Swahili) aka CACS in the bush would send the postcards to other white men back in Europe to brag about the “looseness” of African women. The image of bare-breasted black and brown women was symbolic of dispossession, not to mention demeaning.

At least Ryan Coogler and his team traveled the African continent to create their version of Wakanda from authentic reference points (though he gave us

4. African-American women in the film fare no better. Cssepoint, montage of mental cases in the nightclub scene below, and pay close attention to Akeem’s analysis on the street afterward.. basically he joked about going to “Africa” to find an ignorant “bush bitch” to marry, rather than tolerate what he implied are conniving American women, whom he painted as gold-diggers. That view of African women is an ugly one, presenting them as mute, unintelligent, and hypersexual beings.

5. the royal occupants of the palace in Zamunda, as well as the Africans that attend the engagement party are “blackened whites.” They are all stock figures of upper class white European culture of yore (think Britain's Jane Austen), but their difference from that culture is marked namely by their blackness.

6. Africans watching the film will be far more watchful of how the continent is portrayed (and perhaps we’ll finally understand where the King Jaffe Joffer got all that money at a time when the World Bank and IMF’s Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) were reshaping sub-Saharan economies.

7. It’s insulting to believe that American accents are ideal conduits to showcase the diversity of African accents. These pseudo-American-African accents were constant reminders of Hollywood’s deep misunderstanding of African people.

Brewer and his team could have done their homework and check out films from Senegalese Ousmane Sembène’s post-independence social satires “Xala” and “Mandabi,” to Nigerien Rahmatou Keïta’s royal romantic drama “The Wedding Ring,” about a Nigerian princess sent to France to study, where she falls in love with a prince, and more.

After all, there is no shortage of African filmmakers who could have done wonders with a revised take on the “Coming to America” premise. Possible notables y might have been “I Am Not a Witch” director Rungano Nyoni, a Zambian filmmaker who has already shown her penchant for satirizing perceptions of modern-day Africa. Also, Nigerian filmmaker Kenneth Gyang, whose acclaimed dark comedy “Confusion Na Wa” won an African Academy Award, then there’s Congolese filmmaker Djo Tunda Wa Munga, who made the unabashedly commercial thriller “Viva Riva,” which he intended to counter dominant perceptions of African cinema as rudimentary and didactic.

But accountability also matters. Africans living in America at the time of the first film’s release suffered through countless emotional “Coming to America” jokes — and, for some, the film’s depictions of Africa and Africans only helped further an ignorance that was prevalent at the time. For example, in Zamunda, animals that would be normally found in Serengeti or Ngorongoro are seen casually walking amongst Zamundans, which is not at all the reality for the vast majority of Africans be it in Tanzania, Zambia, Namibia, Congo, Kenya or Gabon to name a few.

Almost forgot how Africans were insulted with those fake African Accents in Black Panther.

King T’Challa, played by the late Chadwick Boseman, was supposed to be a South African one. Xhosa was allegedly the King’s native tongue. What Africans found instead was an over-exaggerated inflection, a strange slip into self-parody of a South African.

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MZANSI, Cape Town Beach

I would submit to you that:

1 The reason that Akeem couldn't stay in Zamunda to find his broad is because his pops had already picked his wife and what he was doing was going against his dad, behind his back. Not some shit you can do at home if your pops is the king.

2. This is about a fictional dude from a fictional place somewhere on the continent of Africa. Why would they offend any nation by making the made up country resemble something that already exists. (same with Wakanda)

3. I don't know how the king got his long bread, but I'm sure it's like most kings get their money.

4. He wanted somebody that wanted him for him. That's got nothing to do with black or white women. Bitches gold digging is universal.


Stop taking yourself so seriously. I mean Black Panther had niggas dancing outside movie theaters.
 
I wasn't aware of African-made movies that stereotype Black Americans. What are some of the titles?

Plenty on Netflix. Offhand I can say the one with the dude who looks like Keith Sweat as the lead character. I forgot the name but it was still good. I like a lot of the African shows but you can also tell the influence of Western culture. Same with British shows. Lmao then they come take the US actors jobs lol
 
Hollywood films about Africa are just that: results of the Hollywood imagination, divorced from reality. Carefully crafted frames and soundbites only too eager to exploit the ignorance of the common viewer, someone who has little to no knowledge of Africa, who is willing to think of the continent as one, homogenous place, instead of home to dozens of countries and thousands of cultures.

A viewer who is, most importantly, not African, and will not challenge the images that have been presented to them.

Its still the same garbage they gave us 30 years ago. One might argue that they would have made progress after the first which was released at a time when American audiences had very little exposure to the varied realities of life across the African continent.

30 yrs later American audiences have been exposed to more complete and authentic accounts of African life, in part thanks to the global impact of the internet. And the increase in interest in African stories across television and film has also been of influence in increasing familiarity, especially as Africans themselves become even more active in reclaiming their narratives while targeting global audiences on every platform in the social media.


Lets see from the first:

1. Prince Akeem, cannot find an intelligent woman in Africa so he travels to Queens in New York City to find an American woman who will “arouse his intellect as well as his loins.” How’s that for starters?

2. African women in particular, did not have in the first and dont expect much in this second. The African women are voiceless and hyper-sexualized – a direct reflection of colonial mentality.

3.The topless harems that Akeem has to “bathe” him every morning are identical to the images of African women that appeared on postcards during the British, Portuguese, French, Dutch and German colonialism in Africa. Wazungu (White people in Swahili) aka CACS in the bush would send the postcards to other white men back in Europe to brag about the “looseness” of African women. The image of bare-breasted black and brown women was symbolic of dispossession, not to mention demeaning.

At least Ryan Coogler and his team traveled the African continent to create their version of Wakanda from authentic reference points (though he gave us

4. African-American women in the film fare no better. Cssepoint, montage of mental cases in the nightclub scene below, and pay close attention to Akeem’s analysis on the street afterward.. basically he joked about going to “Africa” to find an ignorant “bush bitch” to marry, rather than tolerate what he implied are conniving American women, whom he painted as gold-diggers. That view of African women is an ugly one, presenting them as mute, unintelligent, and hypersexual beings.

5. the royal occupants of the palace in Zamunda, as well as the Africans that attend the engagement party are “blackened whites.” They are all stock figures of upper class white European culture of yore (think Britain's Jane Austen), but their difference from that culture is marked namely by their blackness.

6. Africans watching the film will be far more watchful of how the continent is portrayed (and perhaps we’ll finally understand where the King Jaffe Joffer got all that money at a time when the World Bank and IMF’s Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) were reshaping sub-Saharan economies.

7. It’s insulting to believe that American accents are ideal conduits to showcase the diversity of African accents. These pseudo-American-African accents were constant reminders of Hollywood’s deep misunderstanding of African people.

Brewer and his team could have done their homework and check out films from Senegalese Ousmane Sembène’s post-independence social satires “Xala” and “Mandabi,” to Nigerien Rahmatou Keïta’s royal romantic drama “The Wedding Ring,” about a Nigerian princess sent to France to study, where she falls in love with a prince, and more.

After all, there is no shortage of African filmmakers who could have done wonders with a revised take on the “Coming to America” premise. Possible notables y might have been “I Am Not a Witch” director Rungano Nyoni, a Zambian filmmaker who has already shown her penchant for satirizing perceptions of modern-day Africa. Also, Nigerian filmmaker Kenneth Gyang, whose acclaimed dark comedy “Confusion Na Wa” won an African Academy Award, then there’s Congolese filmmaker Djo Tunda Wa Munga, who made the unabashedly commercial thriller “Viva Riva,” which he intended to counter dominant perceptions of African cinema as rudimentary and didactic.

But accountability also matters. Africans living in America at the time of the first film’s release suffered through countless emotional “Coming to America” jokes — and, for some, the film’s depictions of Africa and Africans only helped further an ignorance that was prevalent at the time. For example, in Zamunda, animals that would be normally found in Serengeti or Ngorongoro are seen casually walking amongst Zamundans, which is not at all the reality for the vast majority of Africans be it in Tanzania, Zambia, Namibia, Congo, Kenya or Gabon to name a few.

Almost forgot how Africans were insulted with those fake African Accents in Black Panther.

King T’Challa, played by the late Chadwick Boseman, was supposed to be a South African one. Xhosa was allegedly the King’s native tongue. What Africans found instead was an over-exaggerated inflection, a strange slip into self-parody of a South African.

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MZANSI, Cape Town Beach
Dude, you're taking this stuff WAY too seriously.
The images and depictions of Africa in both films were fictional.
All rational people know they were not real, nor were they ever meant to be taken as such.
At the time of their releases; BOTH films were deemed exceptional with regards to positive examples Black people and culture, and both are favorites among Black people.

Prince Akeem & Prince T'Challa.
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Two FICTIONAL men from two very fictional African countries.
- Both men represent some of the very best in Black masculinity.
- Both men are proud, highly intelligent, strong willed, deeply compassionate, skilled fighters and rulers who simply wouldn't allow the past to determine their OWN destinies.
- Both men refused to allow fear, ignorance and xenophobia shape their views of the world nor the welfares of their nations.
- Both men found true love in the arms of a strong Black woman.
- Both men value the traditional ways of their heritage but understand the old ways are not always right and need a fresh new perspectives.
:yes::yes::yes:


Sadly, your assessment of these films come across as yet another attempt by "SJW/cancel culture" looking for reasons to attack previously released and beloved IP's and characters in order to be... "woke". :smh:
 
Plenty on Netflix. Offhand I can say the one with the dude who looks like Keith Sweat as the lead character. I forgot the name but it was still good. I like a lot of the African shows but you can also tell the influence of Western culture. Same with British shows. Lmao then they come take the US actors jobs lol
Ok thanks for answering. I don't know the movie you're speaking of, but feel free to drop the title if you run up on it. I'll check it out and any others in that fit what I inquired about.

I haven't seen but two African movies on Netflix. One was Tsotsi (South African/UK) and I forget the name of the other which was a Nigerian film, but neither "mocked what is deemed to be stereotypical Black Americans." I have seen a number of Nollywood movies that have some Western influence but again nothing that fell into the category of what Tito Jackson described. I can't even recall any that had Black American characters.

As British shows go, I've seen Top Boy, Luther and Chewing Gum on Netflix. Also Gangs of London.
 
I started to post a list of movies made in Africa that mock what is deemed to be stereotypical black Americans, but I'm sure that won't be necessary because we already know that both sides do it.

Neither movie was disrespectful to Africa. In fact, both movies sparked a latent curiosity in black Americans which promoted a surge in self awareness.


I've seen Tons of African movies and haven't run into what you are saying.
 
I do not watch Nollywood movies. However, the few that I even ever
so briefly laid my eyes on concerned themselves strictly with Nigerian
issues. The actors in African movies get paid so little that no American
would ever appear in a Nigerian movie at this point in time. This is why
I doubt that there is a Nollywood movie dealing with black Americans.
Again, I stand ready to be corrected, if you are able to present the
example of what you allege.
I never said anything about Americans appearing in these films.
I've seen Tons of African movies and haven't run into what you are saying.
For both of you, start with a movie called

Tears of the Ghetto. Starting Jim Iyke. It comes with stereotypical clothing, accents and what they deem to be black slang.

Regarding @Nzinga alleging that Nigerian (African) movies don't concern themselves with black American culture, you stated yourself that you don't even watch the movies, so how would you know?

Additionally, they literally have a movie called Beyonce and Rhianna. There is also another called Drake vs Meek. Actual movies.

So, that my initial point isn't lost:

I do not think that the portrayals of black Americans in Africsn movies are done to intentionally disrespect black folk. Just like BP and Coming to America did not either.

We have to be able to friendly poke fun at ea h other without getting emotional. It's us doing us. Not CACs doing black face.

Chill out, some of y'all are so woke that you are really asleep. Hmm?
 
I doubt that there is a Nollywood movie dealing with black Americans.
I needed to circle back to this.

Brother, with all due respect, black American influence is seen in EVERY movie all over the world. We influence every aspect of "modern culture."

Africans when they are not wearing "traditional" clothing are imitating us from head to toe. Even the slang is derived from our swag. No shade to our brothers and sisters, but respect and credit must be allotted to the creators and influencers.
 
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