John Hanson, a black man, was the 1st president of the USA? (true or false)

[Cock Head Jones]

I know this has been discussed a million times but I wanted to get some clarity. Was the 1st president of the US a black man... a moor named John Hanson? Feel free to laugh, joke and clown but I want concrete data supporting the truth.

From The File
A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.George Washington
was really the 8th President of the United States!


George Washington was not the first President of the United States. In fact, the first President of the United States was one John Hanson. Don't go checking the encyclopedia for this guy's name - he is one of those great men that are lost to history. If you're extremely lucky, you may actually find a brief mention of his name.

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation.
This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).

Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents.

He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.

All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington. In fact, Hanson sent 800 pounds of sterling siliver by his brother Samuel Hanson to George Wasington to provide the troops with shoes.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.

Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents.

President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.

Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office.

So what happened?

Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States?

It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon.

A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

And that leads us to the end of our story.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.

And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.

http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/a...first-black-president-john-hanson-1781-a.html

http://www.dickgregory.com/dick/14_washington.html

 

[Race Harley]

Good story but I'm going to go with... false.

 

[Blunt]

Cut it out with this tired, old bullshit. DIFFERENT Hansons, from DIFFERENT centuries!!!

Stop purposely MISeducating black men. You should be DEBUNKING this kind of nonsense rather than further propagating it, ... if you really give a damn about black people and history.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Cut it out with this tired, old bullshit. DIFFERENT Hansons, from DIFFERENT centuries!!!

I want concrete data supporting the truth.

 

[Race Harley]

I want concrete data supporting the truth.

Fuck the concrete data, use common sense and do a little Google/Wikipedia search of that time in history. A black man at that time wasn't considered "a man" by those in power. Either you were a slave, property like the cow in the meadow or the chair at the dining room table, of if you were a "free black" you still weren't consider part of the population count, you were considered a non-slave, and if you didn't have your head on a swivel, your ass might get caught out there by people who made a profit by bringing freed blacks back to the South. That line in the US Constitution that starts out as "WE THE PEOPLE..." only referred to WHITE MEN. They didn't consider their own women in the Constitution since they weren't allowed to vote. Remember, your early Presidents were also Slave Owners... don't get it twisted! With that said, I'm calling this story BULLSHIT! If you don't believe anything I've written here, look it up. This is the shit they should be teaching in Junior High School history class. This way y'all won't come up with shit like this. Don't let me have to get my teaching certificate and start teaching the truth to the youth!

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[Blunt]

I want concrete data supporting the truth.

Just look up the name John Hanson, idiot. The BLACK one lived in the era of the Civil War. The one who was the "president" lived in the previous century and was white.

Stop using dumbass Afrocentric propaganda sites as your sources.


The white John Hanson:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp


The BLACK John Hanson (ca. 1860):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson_(Liberia)

 

[cthomas0964]

John Hanson (d. c. 1860) was an African American associated with the American Colonization Society, which sought to relocate black Americans in Liberia. In Liberia, he served as a senator from Grand Bassa County.

Senator Hanson has recently been confused with an earlier John Hanson, a white politician from Maryland who served as President of the Continental Congress during the American Revolution. According to this urban myth, John Hanson of Maryland was actually black, and also the first President of the United States. Internet sites promoting the hoax use the photograph of Senator John Hanson of Liberia to support the claim, even though photography had not yet been invented when the earlier John Hanson was living

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Just look up the name John Hanson, idiot. The BLACK one lived in the era of the Civil War. The one who was the "president" lived in the previous century and was white.

Stop using dumbass Afrocentric propaganda sites as your sources.


The white John Hanson:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp


The BLACK John Hanson (ca. 1860):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson_(Liberia)

how do i know that the white 1 didnt have black blood and the african brotha was just thrown in to throw people off the scent?

btw ive seen both wikipedia links.

 

[sportecus]

"A Charles County planter born in 1715, Hanson became a leading revolutionary and was the first person elected president of the Continental Congress under the Articles of Confederation, leading some to refer to him as the nation's first president."

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/02162011/indytop94053_32428.shtml

 

[bgque12]

how do i know that the white 1 didnt have black blood and the african brotha was just thrown in to throw people off the scent?

btw ive seen both wikipedia links.

Do us all a favor and

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Do us all a favor and

commit suicide?

 

[Race Harley]

how do i know that the white 1 didnt have black blood and the african brotha was just thrown in to throw people off the scent?

btw ive seen both wikipedia links.

You're not serious, right? ​

 

[Mr.Chuckles]

commit suicide?

These guys can be brutal at times never ever forget where you are when posting here

 

[pollux]

"Excuse me.....uh....themainman. I'M THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT! Now...if you'll excuse me......I have some work.....to do...."

 

[Upgrade Dave]

These guys can be brutal at times never ever forget where you are when posting here

Yep.

A simple posting of the links would have been suffice but some cats have to make themselves feel better at other people's expense.

 

[tuckdog]

Yep.

A simple posting of the links would have been suffice but some cats have to make themselves feel better at other people's expense.

The funny thing is, they don't have the facts either. If you look at the wikipedia page, they have no idea what ancestry he was either.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Fuck the concrete data, use common sense and do a little Google/Wikipedia search of that time in history. A black man at that time wasn't considered "a man" by those in power. Either you were a slave, property like the cow in the meadow or the chair at the dining room table, of if you were a "free black" you still weren't consider part of the population count, you were considered a non-slave, and if you didn't have your head on a swivel, your ass might get caught out there by people who made a profit by bringing freed blacks back to the South. That line in the US Constitution that starts out as "WE THE PEOPLE..." only referred to WHITE MEN. They didn't consider their own women in the Constitution since they weren't allowed to vote. Remember, your early Presidents were also Slave Owners... don't get it twisted! With that said, I'm calling this story BULLSHIT! If you don't believe anything I've written here, look it up. This is the shit they should be teaching in Junior High School history class. This way y'all won't come up with shit like this. Don't let me have to get my teaching certificate and start teaching the truth to the youth!

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actually...

there was a period of time after slavery called reconstruction where blacks owned businesses, participated in politics and made some serious strides in a short amount of time. that little period scared the shit out of the establishment leading to other measures being put in place to keep blacks held back.

W. E. B. Du Bois famously wrote in 1935: “the slave went free; stood a brief moment in the sun; then moved back again toward slavery.”

 

[dasmybikepunk]

In November 1781, Hanson became the first President of the Continental Congress to be elected for an annual term as specified in the Articles of Confederation,[2] although Samuel Huntington and Thomas McKean had served in that office after the ratification of the Articles. Under the Articles of Confederation, the United States had no executive branch; the President of Congress was a mostly ceremonial position within the Confederation Congress, but the office did require Hanson to handle a good deal of correspondence and sign official documents.[10] Hanson found the work tedious and wished to resign, but his departure would have left Congress without a quorum to select a successor, and so, out of a sense of duty, he remained in office.[2]

John Hanson

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For other people named John Hanson, see John Hanson (disambiguation).
John Hanson
Portrait of John Hanson, attributed to John Hesselius, c. late 1760s President of the Continental Congress
In office
November 5, 1781 – November 3, 1782 Preceded by Thomas McKean Succeeded by Elias Boudinot Born April 14, 1721(1721-04-14)
near Port Tobacco, Maryland Died November 22, 1783(1783-11-22) (aged 62)
Prince George's County, Maryland Signature John Hanson (April 14, 1721[1] – November 22, 1783) was a merchant and public official from Maryland during the era of the American Revolution. After serving in a variety of roles for the Patriot cause in Maryland, in 1779 Hanson was elected as a delegate to the Continental Congress. He signed the Articles of Confederation in 1781 after Maryland finally joined the other states in ratifying them. In November 1781, he was the first person to be elected as the presiding officer. He had the title, President of the Continental Congress.[2] He was not the first President of the United States.[3]

President of Congress


The bronze statue that stands in the United States Capitol


In November 1781, Hanson became the first President of the Continental Congress to be elected for an annual term as specified in the Articles of Confederation,[2] although Samuel Huntington and Thomas McKean had served in that office after the ratification of the Articles. Under the Articles of Confederation, the United States had no executive branch; the President of Congress was a mostly ceremonial position within the Confederation Congress, but the office did require Hanson to handle a good deal of correspondence and sign official documents.[10] Hanson found the work tedious and wished to resign, but his departure would have left Congress without a quorum to select a successor, and so, out of a sense of duty, he remained in office.[2]
Because Hanson was the first president elected under the Articles of Confederation, one of his grandsons later promoted him as the first President of the United States.[11][12] This ultimately resulted in Hanson's statue being one of two representing Maryland in Statuary Hall in the U.S. Capitol, even though, according to historian Gregory Stiverson, Hanson was not one of Maryland's foremost leaders of the Revolutionary era.[2] The idea that Hanson was the forgotten first President of the United States was further promoted in a 1932 biography of Hanson by journalist Seymour Wemyss Smith.[13] Smith's book asserts that the American Revolution had two primary leaders: George Washington in the military sphere, and John Hanson in politics.[14] This idea is sometimes paired with the claim that Hanson was actually a black man, using a photograph of Senator John Hanson of Liberia to support the claim.[15]

If all this HIStory is TRU....he was not Black by any stretch!

 

[Cock Head Jones]

These guys can be brutal at times never ever forget where you are when posting here

lol Fuck yall...

...and why is it that 1/2 the time bgol accepts wikipedia as a valid source and 1/2 the time it doesnt...depending on the issue at hand.

 

[tuckdog]

If all this HIStory is TRU....he was not Black by any stretch!

Nowhere in your post is his ancestry discussed.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

"A Charles County planter born in 1715, Hanson became a leading revolutionary and was the first person elected president of the Continental Congress under the Articles of Confederation, leading some to refer to him as the nation's first president."

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/02162011/indytop94053_32428.shtml

he looks like a lightskin dude to me.

actually he looks like Maurice Levy on The Wire.

 

[tuckdog]

...and why is it that 1/2 the time bgol accepts wikipedia as a valid source and 1/2 the time it doesnt...depending on the issue at hand.

Exactly! Keep researching bruh. You may come up with something. Don't let the negroes in this thread discourage you. They obviously have no clue either.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Exactly! Keep researching bruh. You may come up with something. Don't let the negroes in this thread discourage you. They obviously have no clue either.

im not. i just wanna know for myself. there gotta be some better info than the same few links to the same info...

referring to the links i posted and the wikipedia shit.

 

[mit_dropout]

Do us all a favor and

co-sign.

 

[domex]

Don't go checking the encyclopedia for this guy's name - he is one of those great men that are lost to history. If you're extremely lucky, you may actually find a brief mention of his name.

Actually britannica.com now mentions it.
http://www.britannica.com/bps/additionalcontent/18/37331800/John-Hansonthe-first-Black-president

 

[domex]

So who is the African American in the back of this 2 dollar bill again?

 

[Blunt]

how do i know that the white 1 didnt have black blood and the african brotha was just thrown in to throw people off the scent?

Huh???? Because these two TOTALLY DIFFERENT people (with separate and well-documented histories) were never COMBINED into one person until dumbass (and gullible) Afrocentrists like you decided to create a total FICTION in order to get fellow idiots all excited.

Some fool (like you) simply saw a photo of the 1800s John Hanson and decided that he MUST be (or should be) the same John Hanson from the 1700s (even though the earlier one was clearly a free and wealthy white man).

 

[tuckdog]

Huh???? Because these two TOTALLY DIFFERENT people (with separate and well-documented histories) were never COMBINED into one person until dumbass (and gullible) Afrocentrists like you decided to create a total FICTION in order to get fellow idiots all excited.

If their histories are so well documented then post some of this well documented information instead of wikipedia links and a link to some yahoo answers wannabe site.

 

[bgque12]

So who is the African American in the back of this 2 dollar bill again?

Are you serious that is from a painting of the signing of the declaration of independence. The only issue with this is that it never happened! This is an artist rendering of the signing. There was a war going on and the founding fathers "snuck" into Philly to sign it when they could. THEY WERE NEVER THERE ALL TOGETHER. And what appears to be a black man in the pic is a shadow. Some of ya'll really need to learn your history. Better yet, go back and watch the John Adams mini series, there is a scene about this very thing when they take him to see the picture for the very first time.

 

[tuckdog]

Some of ya'll really need to learn your history. Better yet, go back and watch the John Adams mini series, there is a scene about this very thing when they take him to see the picture for the very first time.

Where'd you learn you history bruh? Hopefully not from H.B.O. mini-series. No disrespect to you, but unless someone comes in here with better info, you guys smug comments make you look just as uninformed as you're trying to make themainman look.

 

[bgque12]

Huh???? Because these two TOTALLY DIFFERENT people (with separate and well-documented histories) were never COMBINED into one person until dumbass (and gullible) Afrocentrists like you decided to create a total FICTION in order to get fellow idiots all excited.

Some fool (like you) simply saw a photo of the 1800s John Hanson and decided that he MUST be (or should be) the same John Hanson from the 1700s (even though the earlier one was clearly a free and wealthy white man).

And photography was not invented in the 1700's Damn I hate when ya'll force me to agree with Blunt

 

[Mr. Del]

Where'd you learn you history bruh? Hopefully not from H.B.O. mini-series. No disrespect to you, but unless someone comes in here with better info, you guys smug comments make you look just as uninformed as you're trying to make themainman look.

This must have been an experiment to see how many sheep can I collect while perpetuating this bullshit.

I see you already got one.

 

[alexw]

common sense isnt that common

 

[bgque12]

Where'd you learn you history bruh? Hopefully not from H.B.O. mini-series. No disrespect to you, but unless someone comes in here with better info, you guys smug comments make you look just as uninformed as you're trying to make themainman look.

Dude, read some history books on the Revolution. All the founding fathers were wanted men and the British army was all around Philadelphia. They had to sneak in when they could to sign the document. They were not all there at the signing. Yes, it was covered in the mini series but if you are ever in Philly, go to Independence Hall and take the tour and they will tell you the same thing. If not read a few books on the founding of the country and you will see that I am right.

 

[tuckdog]

This must have been an experiment to see how many sheep can I collect while perpetuating this bullshit.

I see you already got one.

No he hasn't got me. I came into this thread expecting what he said to be debunked but nobody did. I just see a bunch of wikipedia links and unheard of sites being used.