Joe Rogan got shitted upon...by a brah

1) You don't have to make it an argument. Stating that 2.6 million people who came here versus the 8.8 million supposedly Africans who were brought here begs the question: "How did 2.6 enslave the 8.8?"

You're assuming every European migrant was a slave-owner which wasn't the case. Your question is based on a faulty assumption to begin with.

Furthermore, you already mentioned Europeans were able to overwhelm the indigenous people, which you believe included Black people, with superior weapons so why couldn't they control the slave population? Keep in mind when Europeans got here they were outnumbered by the natives.
That's a difference of almost 3.4 times as many Africans. That's some pretty dismal odds for even white people to overcome back then, even with the musket and canon.

It's called colonialization. How did white people colonize Africa for centuries when they were always in the minority and didn't adapt to the tropical climate well? And that's in Africa.

Imagine taking Africans to a completely different part of the world they're unfamiliar with and expecting them to successfully revolt every time. Obviously, there were successes such as Haiti but you shouldn't expect that to be the norm.
My fifth Great-Grandfather (yes, he was white) was the absolute largest single landowner in Texas in the early 1800s. He had a plantation, were he had over 20 children by a number of slaves. One such woman was my 5th Great-Grandmother, an enslaved woman. He also had 5 children (two boys and three girls) by his white wife. So, I know a little something about plantations.

So how did he keep his slaves in check since you're the subject-matter expert? Furthermore, just going by your description of your great-grandfather's plantation, I can tell you there were plantations and breeding farms that significantly dwarfed your great-grandfather's farm.

For example, Joshua John Ward's South Carolina plantation held over 1,000 slaves at one time in 1850.
2) The ships that you say are in the museum, how many of them are slave ships? 100? 50? 10? 1? 0?

Here's the best answer I could find. It's taken from a Time article about the slave ship Clotilda:

It is the only ship ever found that was involved in the American slave trade, and one of only 13 slave ships ever located worldwide, though more than 20,000 ships participated in the global slave trade.
3) No one mentioned anything about white reproduction. I thought that we were speaking on the transatlantic journey to North America.

I mentioned reproduction to illustrate that European population growth in The Americas was largely driven by immigration.
We all know that the whites kept coming... it was their numbers that were pushing the indigenous west like I said earlier.

Yes, and where were they coming from and how did they get here?
The indigenous could probably get off three maybe four arrows for every one shot from a musket. How did the Europeans win then? They overwhelmed the indigenous populations with their numbers, and their diseases, and better weaponry over time.

I would argue that European muskets were superior to what the indigenous had from the start. How do you think the Conquistadors were able to take the Aztec capital in a matter of days? Furthermore, the indigenous were eager to acquire European weapons because of their superiority.

And, yes, disease and numbers played a large role too but that just bolsters my argument. If Africans were here in great numbers, the indigenous would've had immunity to Afro-Eurasian diseases. They didn't because they were isolated from Africans, Asians, and Europeans.

And, I ask again, how did European numbers grow if they didn't have the technology to transport millions of people overseas?
They do the same shit today. If a Black man gets caught jaywalking, 5 police cars show up.

I agree.
4) I was speaking on "North America" specifically. I didn't blur the data. It's easy to blur the data when you feel that your argument/numbers aren't adding up. On a very basic level, I feel that everyone knows that slaves were brought to the Americas (US included). But the million dollar question is, "How many African slaves were brought to the Continental United States of America?" Bringing slaves here requires ships, food, and fresh water for a voyage that could take 3 months or more depending on the weather... Do the math and see if you come up with millions upon millions upon millions. I bet you won't... because you can't.
Well, you got something right. There weren't millions of slaves brought to the US. I found this in a few seconds:

And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.
 
According to your logic because there's no evidence that it can't happen, that makes it true. No sources, just vibes.
I don't who broke your Momma's back... So, you're right... I have no sources for that. I thought that it would have been your father, but I don't know.
 
I don't who broke your Momma's back... So, you're right... I have no sources for that. I thought that it would have been your father, but I don't know.
Listen ma'am no need to stop acting like a lady. Turn this attention to the folks that bother to argue your mythology. I personally don't give a fuck what you're talking about. Maybe when you're done you can tell everybody how you believe the sun rotates around the earth. Next you'll be trying to convince people the firmament exists. Or how the center of the earth is hollow. Leave me out of your mumbo jumbo T.E.D. Talk.
 
You're assuming every European migrant was a slave-owner which wasn't the case. Your question is based on a faulty assumption to begin with.

Furthermore, you already mentioned Europeans were able to overwhelm the indigenous people, which you believe included Black people, with superior weapons so why couldn't they control the slave population? Keep in mind when Europeans got here they were outnumbered by the natives.


It's called colonialization. How did white people colonize Africa for centuries when they were always in the minority and didn't adapt to the tropical climate well? And that's in Africa.

Imagine taking Africans to a completely different part of the world they're unfamiliar with and expecting them to successfully revolt every time. Obviously, there were successes such as Haiti but you shouldn't expect that to be the norm.


So how did he keep his slaves in check since you're the subject-matter expert? Furthermore, just going by your description of your great-grandfather's plantation, I can tell you there were plantations and breeding farms that significantly dwarfed your great-grandfather's farm.

For example, Joshua John Ward's South Carolina plantation held over 1,000 slaves at one time in 1850.


Here's the best answer I could find. It's taken from a Time article about the slave ship Clotilda:

It is the only ship ever found that was involved in the American slave trade, and one of only 13 slave ships ever located worldwide, though more than 20,000 ships participated in the global slave trade.


I mentioned reproduction to illustrate that European population growth in The Americas was largely driven by immigration.


Yes, and where were they coming from and how did they get here?


I would argue that European muskets were superior to what the indigenous had from the start. How do you think the Conquistadors were able to take the Aztec capital in a matter of days? Furthermore, the indigenous were eager to acquire European weapons because of their superiority.

And, yes, disease and numbers played a large role too but that just bolsters my argument. If Africans were here in great numbers, the indigenous would've had immunity to Afro-Eurasian diseases. They didn't because they were isolated from Africans, Asians, and Europeans.

And, I ask again, how did European numbers grow if they didn't have the technology to transport millions of people overseas?


I agree.

Well, you got something right. There weren't millions of slaves brought to the US. I found this in a few seconds:

And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.
1) Bro stop, show me where I said every European was a slave owner. My argument is sound. I can't help it if you just don't understand what I'm saying.

2) True they were outnumbered, I said that. But, the indigenous were way more trusting. They wanted to trade for copper, guns and other items; where the white folks wanted gold primarily. But they found out that they needed food too, which the indigenous gave them. The whites would do anything to get gold: lie, steal, and murder. Whites were breaking treaties like we break bread.

3) I said my 5th G-Grandfather was the largest landowner in Texas, I didn't say that he had the largest plantation.

Anyway... I've said my peace, Brother. Again, y'all can believe what ever you want to.

Peace be upon you, Brother.
 
They use the classification of white cause that is where the majority of the bible takes place. If you want a white Jesus and a white Moses, then those people have to be considered Caucasian. Makes you wonder about those "Caucasian" being the majority numbers though!
A lot of those “European immigrants” were so-called black people, who ruled over Europe all the way up until the late 1600s - mid 1700s. The so-called white race is not indigenous to any land on this planet.
 
Listen ma'am no need to stop acting like a lady. Turn this attention to the folks that bother to argue your mythology. I personally don't give a fuck what you're talking about. Maybe when you're done you can tell everybody how you believe the sun rotates around the earth. Next you'll be trying to convince people the firmament exists. Or how the center of the earth is hollow. Leave me out of your mumbo jumbo T.E.D. Talk.
I'm sorry I hurt your feeling, Momma. Maybe next time, when you hear grown folks talking, you'd do better to shut your mutha-fucking sorry ass up.

If you didn't give a fuck about what I was saying, why in the fuck did you engage? You must have a gave a fuck or two.

I've noticed around here that when sorry ass Negroes run across a conversation that they can't participate in, they engage the participants with a bunch of shucking and jiving and stupid jokes which no one finds humor in but them.

Scram..
 
1) Bro stop, show me where I said every European was a slave owner. My argument is sound. I can't help it if you just don't understand what I'm saying.

Bruh, you asked how 2.6 million people could control 8.8 million. Maybe I took the question too literally. My bad. Every European isn't actively working to control the slave population. Many of these Europeans were indentured servants and convicts for instance.

Furthermore, I already answered your question, they had firearms and the Africans were unfamiliar with the land they were brought to. I can't help you if you don't understand the answer.
2) True they were outnumbered, I said that. But, the indigenous were way more trusting. They wanted to trade for copper, guns and other items; where the white folks wanted gold primarily. But they found out that they needed food too, which the indigenous gave them. The whites would do anything to get gold: lie, steal, and murder. Whites were breaking treaties like we break bread.

So, what's the disagreement? I said 2.6 million Europeans migrated to The Americas between 1500-1820. I said nothing about how they subjugated the indigenous population. Obviously it was a combination of factors including disease, weaponry, back stabbing, making alliances with certain tribes against others, etc.
3) I said my 5th G-Grandfather was the largest landowner in Texas, I didn't say that he had the largest plantation.

Then why did you bring him up? Talking about your 5th great-grandfather's land is completely irrelevant to any point I made. It's a fact that many slaves could be controlled by relatively few overseers.
Anyway... I've said my peace, Brother. Again, y'all can believe what ever you want to.

Peace be upon you, Brother.

Peace to you, fam. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. You wrote something I thought was incorrect and I replied with a correction. Obviously everybody can believe what they want.

Peace.
 
I'm sorry I hurt your feeling, Momma. Maybe next time, when you hear grown folks talking, you'd do better to shut your mutha-fucking sorry ass up.

If you didn't give a fuck about what I was saying, why in the fuck did you engage? You must have a gave a fuck or two.

I've noticed around here that when sorry ass Negroes run across a conversation that they can't participate in, they engage the participants with a bunch of shucking and jiving and stupid jokes which no one finds humor in but them.

Scram..
What gives you the impression that you "hurt my feelings"? You're the one with all the aggressive language. I think you're hilarious. Like a chimp with a top hat and monical. Just banging away at your keyboard. I wind you up, and you dance. You're so loud, yet oh so misinformed. It's entertaining. Don't mind me. I'm just here for the show. I know better than to argue with a fool. Carry on pimp. Tell us more about this true history. It's it true that there's caves in the Grand canyon that lead to Africa? I'm all ears...
 
@Mrfreddygoodbud Should we re-engage our debate about the “indigenous Moors”? :D

You smoke free bruh, You KNOW you cant handle that smoke!!!

You know whats funny? Only in this country the majority of people dont know so called

African Americans are Indigenous Maurs/Moors.......

try to remember, I have to dig extra hard....because our true History is

covered up..

Your sources of our reconstructed history, are literally put in your face and forced down your throat

for you to regurgitate at will..

Ever since we had our debate, Im seeing more and more of my people awaken

to whom they truly are. in society.
 
@Mrfreddygoodbud Should we re-engage our debate about the “indigenous Moors”? :D

I DO want to say this tho, you was on the right track trying to get like a youtubish type platform...

having a social media platform that focuses on Man codes, relationships, history and current events, sports...

we were discussing this Moorish Aboriginal American Indigenous stuff, what five years ago.... and its really starting to pick up steam, we werent the first by any stretch of the imagination but Im certain we inspired a lot of current tik tok

and youtube shorts with our youth slowly discovering who we are...

Im just saying you had the right idea, just needed to get the proper funding and support.... you got clown simps like

fresh and fit, cleaning up in the social media game... with zero swag bruh... there swag on negative...

bgol has the personalities to not only do the numbers but get the respect....

but steps have to be followed.. number one.. fund raiser!!
 
What gives you the impression that you "hurt my feelings"? You're the one with all the aggressive language. I think you're hilarious. Like a chimp with a top hat and monical. Just banging away at your keyboard. I wind you up, and you dance. You're so loud, yet oh so misinformed. It's entertaining. Don't mind me. I'm just here for the show. I know better than to argue with a fool. Carry on pimp. Tell us more about this true history. It's it true that there's caves in the Grand canyon that lead to Africa? I'm all ears...

"Monocle"... I believe that's the word you're looking for.
 
Minus whale add what he said to the BGOL dictionary!!
Minus whale... :roflmao2:
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Thank you Captain Spell Check. What would the world do without you?

Deflect all you want. You're still in here getting your lunch ate. But don't mind me. I don't want no beef. I just want to hear more of your veggie-tales.

You couldn't even see my table with two monicals, Homie... Let alone eat at it!

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You couldn't even see my table with two monicals, Homie... Let alone eat at it!

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Oh I definitely don't want no smoke with you. I just want to hear more of your alternative facts. Please continue with your T.E.D. Talk. I'm hear to listen. Or our you going to run my spelling faux pas into the ground because you got a laugh? Don't try to deflect to me. You been in here fighting for your life all night. I love your passion. Just banging away at them keys
 
Oh I definitely don't want no smoke with you. I just want to hear more of your alternative facts. Please continue with your T.E.D. Talk. I'm hear to listen. Or our you going to run my spelling faux pas into the ground because you got a laugh? Don't try to deflect to me. You been in here fighting for your life all night. I love your passion. Just banging away at them keys

Ok "Fat Sacks."

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Ok "Fat Sacks."

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C'mon man. You're trying to hard. Stick to what works for you, because this ain't it. Where's the creativity? This is what happens when unfunny people try to roast. It's just sad. I'll give you another chance lil buddy. Delete this and try again.
 
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