Jimmy Carter: Israel is criminal

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Carter says Israeli treatment of Palestinians is ‘a crime’

By Jeffrey FleishmanTimes Staff Writer

cairo — Former President Carter told a university audience here Thursday that the treatment of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by the Israeli military was “a crime” but that there were “officials in Israel quite willing to meet with Hamas” and that may happen “in the near future.”

Carter spoke to students and faculty at American University in Cairo after talks with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and a separate threehour meeting with Hamas officials. The Bush administration and Israel have set rules to not talk to the militant Palestinian group, which controls the Gaza Strip, but Carter said, “I consider myself immune” from such restrictions.

He added that he wasn’t acting as a negotiator or mediator, but hoped that he “might set an example to be emulated” by others.

The former president’s meetings with Hamas in recent days have outraged Israelis, but Carter was undeterred, even suggesting that his recent book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” was aptly named because apartheid “is the exact description of what’s happening in Palestine now.”

He spoke to a mostly appreciative audience, except for one American student from Amherst, Mass., who suggested that Carter was giving legitimacy to terrorists by meeting with Hamas. A murmur went through the crowd.

The former Georgia governor said he told Hamas officials that “the worst thing” they were doing to their cause was firing rockets into Israel, which he called “abominable and an act of terrorism.” Before the student could agree, Carter did his own mathematics of bloodshed. He said that for every Israeli killed in the conflict, 30 to 40 Palestinians died because of Israel’s superior military and “pinpoint accuracy.”

His white eyebrows bright in the spotlight, Carter then slipped back into diplomatic mode: “I’m not blaming one [side] or the other. . . . Any side that kills innocent people is guilty of terrorism.”

Carter said Hamas officials told him that they would allow a referendum on the fate of Palestinians if Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the rival Palestinian Authority, and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert reached an agreement. Carter added that Israelis must be assured that Hamas would stop rocket attacks and suicide bombers.

“I think it’s an atrocity what is being perpetuated as punishment” against the 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza, Carter said. He added that the situation was “a crime” and that people were being “starved” to death living behind walls in prison conditions.

It was almost 30 years ago that Carter, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin made peace at Camp David. Thursday, Carter took a moment to remember those times. He drew applause when, with a jab at the Bush administration, he mentioned that he didn’t wait until his final days in office to try to find a way to peace. jeffrey.fleishman @latimes.com
 
Before Dr. Truth comes up in here talking about Black Israelis and how Arabs are scam artists and Jews helped us during the Civil Rights Movement - I'm going to pre-empt him:

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Originally Posted by Dr. Truth
"When have Arabs done anything for a Black person? They were nowhere to be found in the civil rights era, meanwhile Jews were all over. You niggas think it's cool to support isreal because it's the "Left wing" thing to do. So many clueless BMW driving yuppie faggots in Berkeley and San Francisco scream all this free palestine shit like they really give a fuck. Arabs are some of the most low down bitchmade mothafuckas I've ever encountered. "My Friend My Friend" The fuck outta here. Always trying to scam a nigga at a bodega."

I don't think that highly of Arabs either - from my experiance with most of them, they do look down upon everyone but Dr. Truth - I gotta call you out on some misinformation your spreading.

First, being around during the civil rights era? Arabs are a part of the later waves of immigrants - especially the news Arabs you see like Yemenis and Egyptians, so they probably were not in the US back in the 50-60s.

Yea, I'm sure that its all cool for Jewish lawyers to go down south and help in the civil rights movement but WHERE THE FUCK WHERE ALL THE JEWISH LAWYERS WHEN THE BOSTON SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS WAS HEAVILY SEGREGATED AND THE IRISH MOBBING BLACK STUDENTS BEING BUSSED TO WHITE SCHOOLS CUS THEY DIDN'T HAVE BOOKS AND DESKS IN THE BALCK SCHOOLS?!

Everyone wants to get on a bus and go to someone else's hood to tell them how to do something but they don't do shit in front of their own eyes.

Another thing - those Arabs that have been longer in the US were mostly Christian Arabs from Lebanon and Syria - and some of them have been progressive - Do you forget that Ralph Nader is an Arab??

and WTF does a right to human dignity have anything to do with Arabs? The Palestine issue is a right to live in human dignity - that's a right all humans should have right to do.

And about the Black Jews of Israel - yea, they are black Jews - but they are looked down upon in society in Israel. European Jews run the show in Israel and all other Jews are below them.
 
breaking news...

Fmr President Jimmy Carter's plane crashes in the middle of the atlantic ocean while returning from isreal

:lol::smh::hmm:

Courage, courage.......................but political suicide. He is gonna catch it from the right and the left...........................from the center, the top and the bottom. :lol:

America is basically the second jewish settlement after they left europe.

Israel was needed 50 years ago when you couldnt tell the arabs "Hey, I am bout to bomb you to the stone age and I dont need a base over there to do it."

Now they have outgrown there use, BUT have firm control in our government, mainly because our government is a CORPOCRACY and we all know who runs that, banks and corps.

CARTER IS FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Though I respect him more than anybody in politics at this moment. The sheep just gonna turn on the news, MSM, and hear he is talking with terrorist. :eek: :eek: :eek:

But they fail to realize that israel commits state sponsored terrorism from a better military position and the oppressed fight back with hit and run tactics.

Did I mention carter is fucked.........................obama needs to distance himself from him now also.
 
He might have actually broken Israel's grip on the United States if Jimmy Carter had taken a hard stance back when he was President and actually had Power. Now he seems like an old man trying to get into Heaven.

Tell the jews back then they are wrong as hell.and we're done supporting your terrorist activities. And it wouldn't be an issue now.

But I guess he needed the jews to be president.
 
Its sad that everybody in the US is scared of Israel as if they are GOD!
Israel is not God and much of their history has revolved around Israel learning that lesson. Still, they are a favored nation among nations and America would be stupid to align herself against Israel.
 
This isn't the first time Carter has spoken out on this issue, he took heat for it before and there is no doubt they'll hold his feet to the fire on this issue as well. Hes basically right though, its just too bad the truth in politics will get you nowhere.
Here is an interview about the book.
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/30/palestine_peace_not_apartheid_jimmy_carter

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He might have actually broken Israel's grip on the United States if Jimmy Carter had taken a hard stance back when he was President and actually had Power. Now he seems like an old man trying to get into Heaven.

Tell the jews back then they are wrong as hell.and we're done supporting your terrorist activities. And it wouldn't be an issue now.

But I guess he needed the jews to be president.

They fucked him over bad on that October Surprise though. He fucked up the day he kept George Bush on to run the CIA.
 
imagine if, for example in an arbitrary year, iran moves into florida and designates itself a new sovereign country with help of russia

wonder what americans would think about that, and they said it was allowable because Allah has deemed that part of the world to his people


hmmm, thats what the zionist did in palestine , palestine was a nation BEFORE 1947, and should be today imo at least

I say carter is correct, and will be dead in a few years
 
^^^

It wasnt like that. Britain was eating Palestine's food, and they said "fuck it, you belong to my homeboy Israel now" on some divide and conquer shit.

Britain is the original sin in that scenario.
 
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