That is exactly what I was saying... Nas came back so hard and expectedly that Jay rushed out that wack as Superugly and that let the whole wind out of the beef....you cant come back with superugly after ether
Jay-Z Tells Juan Epstein His Takeover Diss Was 100 Times Better Than Ether.
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That is exactly what I was saying... Nas came back so hard and expectedly that Jay rushed out that wack as Superugly and that let the whole wind out of the beef....you cant come back with superugly after ether
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Yea some of you Niggas need to go back in your ink cartridge.
"I showed you ya first tek on tour with large professor....then I heard ya album about ya tek on ya dresser"
"is it blackgirl lost or shorty owe u for ice?????"
"I showed you ya first tek on tour with large professor....then I heard ya album about ya tek on ya dresser"
"is it blackgirl lost or shorty owe u for ice?????"
"you just don't understand all the bullshit that he writes(fuck is you sayin)"
Blueprint 2 was epic
Blueprint 2 was epic
that shit was hotter than takeover to me
Ester wasn't a great song it was a great diss record. Better than Takeover. Jay didn't really have a beef with Nas. Nas had shit to get off his chest and it showed. The thing is Em wrote Renagade with Royce Da 5-9. Not only did Em smoke him. On the original version Royce smokes Jay too. That's the killer.
Ether is now a verb.
Ether hit so hard it took Bubble Lip several songs to answer back and still didn't scratch Esco.
Of course the camel Stans would come a running to co-sign with this asshole damn near 10 years after taking the biggest L of his career and folk still don't wanna believe.
Let it rest already.
Nas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay.
"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"
Last Real Nigga Alive - Nas
Ether hit so hard it took Bubble Lip several songs to answer back and still didn't scratch Esco.
Of course the camel Stans would come a running to co-sign with this asshole damn near 10 years after taking the biggest L of his career and folk still don't wanna believe.
Let it rest already.
Nas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay.
"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"
Last Real Nigga Alive - Nas
cats gonna start crying and saying Im dissing Jay Z but he often comes up short when him and another killer are on the same song..... like Brooklyns finest..im not saying Jay didnt spit..because he did....but Biggie spit hotter...or even I love the dough... but that Renegade was crazy...Em took that shit somewhere else...they way he constructed and spit that last verse
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Notice how it took him YEARS to fix his fat lips to even SAY this foolishness!
BTW Nas murdered him!
WIN!!! "Queens Niggas Run You Niggas Ask Russell Simmons!"
Knockout!! Actually STILLMATIC murdered both songs by itself!!!!
"Before You Used to Rhyme Like The Fushickens, Nas Designed The Blueprint Who You Kidding?"
Renegade was an average song at best anyway....where that nigga really got killed if you are gonna compare verses is Run This Town. Jay killed Kanye on that Diamonds are Forever remix, but I listen to the whole Run this Town song or fast forward just for Ye's verse. And I'm not a Jay Z hater or lover, But J.J. Evans getting gunned up and clapped quick went so fucking hard Jays best response would be to act as if he never heard Either before. To this day, when I see that episode of Good Times where J.J. gets shot by Mad Dog, I throw up the diamond sign.
Nobody even remembers that song, that's how much of an impact it had. And Nas baby moms was a WELL KNOWN hoe throughout Queens.
And Ether fucked you up so bad you brought the niccas baby moms AND kid into the beef, niccas in NY and over the radio stations was even like "c'mon son" you reaching now, nicca lucky he didn't get clapped over some shit like that, just for bringing Nas daughter into it. Jay is not a street dude, never has been.
i still think jay>>>em on renegade.
Ether FTW.. Man as a southerner we had heard NAS before but that shit there actually had niggas down here BUYING his cd.
I always thought that Ether was overated.IMO JayZ was the "bad guy" and people wanted Nas to win from jump.The beat knocked hard and he talked shit,but most of Ether was about Jay's looks or shit that just wasn't true.TakeOver was true and his flow was way better.PLUS IMO Nas forfeited when he didn't respond to BluePrint.Nas pretty much went second after Takeover,dedicated a full diss song to Jay,gave it all he had.Then he refused to go another round.I actually lost alot of respect for Nas after that shit.
Yes Em had a better verse on Renegade,but collabos aren't competition.
Yes Em had a better verse on Renegade,but collabos aren't competition.
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Notice how it took him YEARS to fix his fat lips to even SAY this foolishness!
BTW Nas murdered him!
WIN!!! "Queens Niggas Run You Niggas Ask Russell Simmons!"
Knockout!! Actually STILLMATIC murdered both songs by itself!!!!
"Before You Used to Rhyme Like The Fushickens, Nas Designed The Blueprint Who You Kidding?"
Takeover was a response to this ... Nas bombed on the whole Roc with this one:
"Hit the FREEWAY, shoot through MEMPHIS with MONEY BAGS (Bleek's artist) stop in Philly order a cheese steak and eat BEANS fast .... is he H to the izz O? M to the izz O? forshizzle my nizzle the rapper version of Cisco"
This is why Jay-Z made Takeover
I think Takeover is the best commercial diss song after hit'em up he went after all of queensbridge and almost ended they careers
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If Em could do a track with Nicki Manaj I am certain he wishes he did one with Nas. I think Nas hasn't see fit to do it. Nas obviously is more principled than capitalistic.
========================================================Takeover was a response to this ... Nas bombed on the whole Roc with this one:
"Hit the FREEWAY, shoot through MEMPHIS with MONEY BAGS (Bleek's artist) stop in Philly order a cheese steak and eat BEANS fast .... is he H to the izz O? M to the izz O? forshizzle my nizzle the rapper version of Cisco"
This is why Jay-Z made Takeover
I think Takeover is the best commercial diss song after hit'em up he went after all of queensbridge and almost ended they careers
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The Takeover beat was hot as hell and that is what I feel Cats are choosing Hov in this debate. In a Battle, TO ME and to many others, it is all about lyrics and Nas Killed him lyrically! I don't care if Jay-Z sold a mill.
People root for Nas because Jay-Z damn near ended his career. Bravehearts was wack, Nas did have the worse flow on the whole fucking song, Nas does have a one hot album every ten average. Nas had to make Ether. Takeover was like axe coming straight for your head and Ether just barely saved him.
I used to be the biggest Nas fan but Takeover is one of those songs you do not want a dude making about you. Nas spent the next 2 albums trying to get Jay-Z back.
I used to be the biggest Nas fan but Takeover is one of those songs you do not want a dude making about you. Nas spent the next 2 albums trying to get Jay-Z back.
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I always thought ether was overrated, even the good parts.
Gay-Z and Cockafella?
Compared to Beans you wack?
U wish it was
guess hommie forgot
alot of people forget about this...i listened to hot 97 that day at work and the people spoke...they said Nas won...most people can't attack Jay the way Nas did...Those things that Nas said were personal and alot of cats in the street were like "Yea, there is some truth to some of those things" Jay may have won the war (career) but he lost that battle
I got to give it to Jay though, that nigga even tried to say this shit with Nas sitting right next to him at 4:13..but Nas brought him back to Reality at 4:15
[/QUOTE]And jay's soul is still burning.
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