Jay Electronica signs to Jay-Z's Roc Nation

jay-z is the worst record exec ever. the only niggas music he's ever really pushed is his own (that is, unless you have a vagina). poor jay electronica. he better save them checks.
 
Jay was the President of Def Jam and I assume the person in charge of Roc Nation, so yes, I do think the decision to sign certain artists is on him. While I don't think Jay spends his spare time surfing on datpiff, I'm pretty sure he's atleast has a Jay Electronica mixtape on his computer.

As for the mixtape artists you mentioned, there were/are only one hit away from dropping an album. I never thought a year ago that Waka Flocka would ever drop a major label album, but he made hits. I just felt that Jay signed rappers, got what he wanted from them, then shelved them with little to no support. Atleast Millz, Gudda Gudda, and Cory Gunz can do songs with Wayne and get featured on albums that actually get released. Tru Life got an intro on a mixtape from Jay, and Uncle Murda got a couple of collabos and that was it.

Regardless, we're just speculating on why Jay signed who he signed, I just hope he doesn't end up fucking over Jay Electronica's career.

You mean like Jay-Z did with Freeway, Beans, Bleek, MOP and even Cam?

Do you see TI doing a bunch of songs with B.O.B.?
Does anyone care about Consequence or GLC anymore?
Ask Puff when that Aasim album is coming out.

They aren't babies, you have to make your own career and your own lane.

jay-z is the worst record exec ever. the only niggas music he's ever really pushed is his own (that is, unless you have a vagina). poor jay electronica. he better save them checks.

Some of you don't understand that the record industry is a business. What did Ghostface and The Roots sell without Jay-Z?

It's not the labels job anymore to make you hot, it's your job to make you hot, this isn't Motown. Labels aren't putting money in to developing artist.

Nicki Minaj made herself hot, not Young Money.
 
Jay Elect can be this generation's Biggie now that he has the backing to support the commercial side of his music. It's still a business so the nigga needs some good records so he can eat. He has the talent to be a legend already.
 
You mean like Jay-Z did with Freeway, Beans, Bleek, MOP and even Cam?

Do you see TI doing a bunch of songs with B.O.B.?
Does anyone care about Consequence or GLC anymore?
Ask Puff when that Aasim album is coming out.

They aren't babies, you have to make your own career and your own lane.



Some of you don't understand that the record industry is a business. What did Ghostface and The Roots sell without Jay-Z?

It's not the labels job anymore to make you hot, it's your job to make you hot, this isn't Motown. Labels aren't putting money in to developing artist.

Nicki Minaj made herself hot, not Young Money.

the hell does any of that have to do with push? you make yourself hot with your music, but it's the labels job to push the music to as many people as possible. if thats the artists job then whats the point of signing to major in the first place. jay-z barely even pushes j.cole. j.cole is a major grinder, and he shouldn't have to be considering he has one of the most successful rappers in the game co-signing him. but its sad that there are still a gang of muhfuckas who don't even know who j.cole is.
 
the hell does any of that have to do with push? you make yourself hot with your music, but it's the labels job to push the music to as many people as possible. if thats the artists job then whats the point of signing to major in the first place. jay-z barely even pushes j.cole. j.cole is a major grinder, and he shouldn't have to be considering he has one of the most successful rappers in the game co-signing him. but its sad that there are still a gang of muhfuckas who don't even know who j.cole is.

This isn't the 90's, the labels don't do that anymore, because the same money isn't involved in rap :smh:

Who made Waka hot, himself
Nicki?
Drake?

If everyone knows who you are, people begin to hate you, a la Drake.

And Jay-Z has gotten dude on the BET Awards, has had him open for him in just about every concert and had him appear on his album? What artist label does more than that? 50? I bet you 50 wouldn't do it now, and then it was only with Banks, Yayo and Buck.

What else do you want to do? Have a Mase and Puff relationship where they go every together?

Some of you seem to have totally different expectations of Jay-Z and a black exec and these white execs. You think Jimmy Iovine made 50 hot? Dre and Em? No, he did it himself.
 
the hell does any of that have to do with push? you make yourself hot with your music, but it's the labels job to push the music to as many people as possible. if thats the artists job then whats the point of signing to major in the first place. jay-z barely even pushes j.cole. j.cole is a major grinder, and he shouldn't have to be considering he has one of the most successful rappers in the game co-signing him. but its sad that there are still a gang of muhfuckas who don't even know who j.cole is.

co-sign.... There is a gang of hot music that never makes it to radio stations because radio DJ's dont break records anymore. Artist don't just magically get on BET or MTV.
 
This isn't the 90's, the labels don't do that anymore, because the same money isn't involved in rap :smh:

Who made Waka hot, himself
Nicki?
Drake?

If everyone knows who you are, people begin to hate you, a la Drake.

And Jay-Z has gotten dude on the BET Awards, has had him open for him in just about every concert and had him appear on his album? What artist label does more than that? 50? I bet you 50 wouldn't do it now, and then it was only with Banks, Yayo and Buck.

What else do you want to do? Have a Mase and Puff relationship where they go every together?

Some of you seem to have totally different expectations of Jay-Z and a black exec and these white execs. You think Jimmy Iovine made 50 hot? Dre and Em? No, he did it himself.

50 Cent made himself hot in the streets, while dr. dre and em made him hot everywhere else. do you think em's co-sign, and dr. dres production didnt have anything to do with his hype? and jimmy iovine isnt an artist still recording. jay-z doesnt like to share the spotlight, which is dumb if you have a label with artists that you're trying to make successful as well. and like i said, if it's up to jay elec to make himself hot, then whats the point of signing in the first place?
 
I said the same thing when Janelle Monae signed with Bad Boy. I'm pretty sure Jay Electronica and Jay Z have a method to their Madness. :yes:
 
OK, cool...

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*Waits for the music to come out...*
 
peace

funny how jay signs rocnation artists to those slave 360 deals but he was on the warren buffet interview talking about how fucked up those deals are until he caught himself and remembered that he's putting artists in those deals himself.

instead of looking at the potential negatives imma just be happy that a real ass mc caught any big deal in 2010. that in itself is rare.

hopefully it'll inspire young cats to be themselves and stay on that official shit instead of putting out nursery rhymes and selling ringtones. there is a little light at the end of the tunnel.

Basically!
11 to the 7 as I wish him the best navigagting through all the snake shit to get his music out with the message & method of choice.

NinjaspiT said:
meh...
clearly J elec goes way over peoples heads, I dont see his album on roc nation being anywhere near what he typicaly rhymes about...like "that black elohim annunaki rap"
Me neither especially as some of his rhymes go @ heads like the camel & his stance as a floss rap artist adding nothig new to the game but their talk about $ but we will have to see wont we.


peace
 
I don't give 2 shits about what happens with him Roc or his career, don't make me any difference, I just want more of this ASAP






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good shit
if they work hard they'll have albums
get in there knock out the songs do the features and grind.
sigel had how many albums?
bleek had how many?
its possible
if u work hard you'll be sigel
if u want everything handed you'll be peedi
 
good shit
if they work hard they'll have albums
get in there knock out the songs do the features and grind.
sigel had how many albums?
bleek had how many?
its possible
if u work hard you'll be sigel
if u want everything handed you'll be peedi

The climate of the game has changed since then. And Roc Nation ain't no Rocafella that's for sure. Roc Nation hasn't dropped a rap album or album in general other than Hov himself. We know Hov will drop. And 100% confident Willow will as well.
 
I said the same thing when Janelle Monae signed with Bad Boy. I'm pretty sure Jay Electronica and Jay Z have a method to their Madness. :yes:

Bad Boys only method with Janelle Monae was leaving her alone and letting her be herself.
not to mention Big Boi is very instrumental in JMs development.
this also opened up Bad Boy to being exposed to the Urban Alternative market (which in my opinion will replace traditional r&b).
Jay Elect doesnt doenst have self contained development and an image to market.
and trust Jayz has a terrible eye and ear for talent (hence Memphis Bleek), so Elect is gotta work to do on his own.
 
The climate of the game has changed since then. And Roc Nation ain't no Rocafella that's for sure. Roc Nation hasn't dropped a rap album or album in general other than Hov himself. We know Hov will drop. And 100% confident Willow will as well.

the game is still the same in the sense that if you work hard and push your own self and get a buzz and have a hot album you will come out cause they won't be able to keep you on the shelf.
that just goes for most labels...not just jay specifically
if these dudes continue to do what they have been and make it undeniable then they'll come out. if they sit back and expect everything to be handed and because they're on the label the label will do everything then they're out of luck

j cole acts like he wants to come out...and i bet he does.
 
Bad Boys only method with Janelle Monae was leaving her alone and letting her be herself.
not to mention Big Boi is very instrumental in JMs development.
this also opened up Bad Boy to being exposed to the Urban Alternative market (which in my opinion will replace traditional r&b).
Jay Elect doesnt doenst have self contained development and an image to market.
and trust Jayz has a terrible eye and ear for talent (hence Memphis Bleek), so Elect is gotta work to do on his own.

wrong
memph bleek is a product of nepotism
 
thats even worse. :hmm:

not at all in the way you presented your argument
memph got on and had albums because of nepotism meaning hot or not wack or not bleek was gonna do it.
bad judge of ear would mean that he heard bleek thought he was nice musically and that bleek was gonna be a star but he failed at it. that wasn't the case
if bleek wanted to sing jay woulda let him so judge of talent is totally irrelevant when it comes to bleek. not better or worse just different
 
Jay-Z is a black hole for talent, sorry.

Elect makes beats and probably ghostwrites so Jay-Z is gonna eat regardless ... I suspect Elect has a drinking problem or something as well ...
 
Jay-Z is a black hole for talent, sorry.

Elect makes beats and probably ghostwrites so Jay-Z is gonna eat regardless ... I suspect Elect has a drinking problem or something as well ...

my cousin... long time recovering addict is a big fan and said the same thing 1st time he saw an interview.

i was like like man please take your crackhead ass somewhere else with these allegations but its interesting that you said that.

i just want dude to put some heat out.
 
Good for him. Dude is too good to be under the radar like he is.


Co-signing everything largebills is saying. Just like you can name talent that didn't prosper under Jay-Z, you can name others that did, whether at Roc-a-Fella or Def Jam. If J.E. puts in the work, he'll be fine.
 
Bad Boys only method with Janelle Monae was leaving her alone and letting her be herself.
not to mention Big Boi is very instrumental in JMs development.
this also opened up Bad Boy to being exposed to the Urban Alternative market (which in my opinion will replace traditional r&b).Jay Elect doesnt doenst have self contained development and an image to market.
and trust Jayz has a terrible eye and ear for talent (hence Memphis Bleek), so Elect is gotta work to do on his own.

Won't happen. There's no radio for "Urban Alternative" (which used to just be R&B) while there will always be radio for traditional rhythm and blues.
 
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