Jason Whitlock: "We Owe Jerry Jones (And Jimmy The Greek) An Apology"

Anyone who doesn't believe that human characteristics and traits can be bred has absolutely no understanding of genetics.

Of course it is not exact, but the study of genetics is the study of probability.

Is it not true that two tall persons breeding are more likely to have tall offspring???

Is it not true that two short people breeding are more likely to have short offspring???

How many times have you seen a man and woman with coarse tight kinky hair produce a child with fine straight hair?....never. And if they did you would be looking at daddy like...."damn bro, you sure that's yours?"

And why is it even something to get upset about???

Put it like this. Their thinking and vast knowledge isn't enough to contribute to this conversation. Just like you my eyes and mind don't lie.

Peace,

Physical characteristics? Of course. But talk of "breeding" humans and the like comes dangerously close to supporting eugenics, bruh. And given the history of this country, it's also not the wisest thing for a white man to be talking publicly of pairing off slaves.

So because it isn't wise to talking publicly about pairing doesn't make it true. I know one this. With this comment I won't respond to you anymore because you basically exposed your thinking. Either I'm smart or your dumb because muscles are physical characteristics.


Maybe it is not wise, but was it not fact? And just because one understands the science, doesn't mean they support the practice. But as a matter of fact, one must understand the science to even make an educated decision on whether they support the application of the science or not.

That is what slave masters did....they bought and sold us as chattel. And yes, some males were bought based on their physical characteristics with the intent of fucking and producing offspring with similar characteristics.

Trust me man. You are wasting your time arguing with these cats. Animals are no different from humans except for the fact that we have larger brains; therefore I can't see why pairing humans would be a different from pairing animals.

Peace,

Let me ask you this. Do the following comments sound like science to you?

"The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid."

If you know any better you would know black people tend to have smaller thighs than whites. Our muscles are more dense. Unfortunately you didn't know that. I remember this white dude told me in the gym when I was asking how can I get bigger calves like him. He said, "I'm suffering from Black Man legs". Basically I have stronger calves than him, but my calves are smaller because of my dense muscles.

Peace,

Of course, bruh. I also already agreed with you about the fact that physical characteristics can be passed down. But to attribute black athletic superiority to slave breeding is ridiculous. Particularly given the fact that most of us have a much more complex genetic history than we care to acknowledge.

This sounds like a dumb response on your behalf. If you are constantly working in fields all day long your muscles WILL become stronger. Last time I check muscles are physical attributes. Ok Mr. Paragraph. Answer this question for me how come most of your dominate sprinters are black people from the Western Hemisphere. When was the last time Africa produced a 100 or 200 meter sprint?? Aren't Africans and Western Africans both black???? When was the last time you seen a 100 or 200 meter White sprinter?? You can't tell me some white athletes don't work as hard as black sprinters? Notice all your fast sprinters in history came from the Western Hemisphere. Here is something else for you to think about. Why can't 2 red heads produce a blonde child?


I just don't see why that is so much of a jump....

if for over 200 years we were paired to maximize our physical characteristics, then it follows that those characteristics continue in us....

especially since it was only within the last 30 years or so that we began procreating outside of our race in any significant numbers.

It is just that now those physical characteristics are used to make millions instead of carry bags of cotton and tobacco.


Just my two cents...peace...I'm out

Dude your logic isn't a jump. Your logic is on point.

You're a fool.
First of all there is no factual basis for the assertion that many (if any) slaves were bred for various physical attributes. Secondly, strength is not a genetic feature. Propensity for muscle fiber type is a genetic trait but what humans become is dependent on genes and environment. It is not a given that 2 strong people would produce a strong child. The whole idea of that is stupid. A lot more goes into whether or not a person is strong than genetics- most of it is not dependent on genetics beyond a certain basic healythy physiological standpoint.
Two tall people don't automatically have tall offspring dipshit. It requires active genes and environment. Illness in great grandparents, grandparents, parents, offspring as well as other environmental features like diet play a major role in that. Your great grand parenits play a role in whether or not you will die of heart disease all based on genes activated through their eating well or not, being sick or not decades ago.

Beyond all that there was no slavery eugenics program cultivating a master black race of athletes.
Post your data backing up your assertions that anything to do with slavery makes us better athletes. I don't give a fuck if you suck Jesse Jackson's dick in between working at homeless shelters you are an asshole and a moron who attempts to lend credibility to baseless assertions made by racists to explain away the hardwork of black athletes as some sort of unavoidable gift. The fact that you don't see or don't care about the motivations behind such false accusations shows us the type of coon morons we have supposedly "helping" our own.

At the end of the day you're right on this board talking shit too so stfu and log off or come with facts and logic or get exposed as an intellectually vapid fake talented tenth ass fraud nigga.

I'm just as much of a fool as you. The difference between you and me on this board is my inbox is full of questions being ask about shit to help other brothas which I do on a consistent basis with results. Last time I check you don't ask a fool for advice. So your personal attacks doesn't affect me. I do notice most cats on this board with extremely high post counts don't have too much to say. This board is an outlet for you to ramble your chops because in your daily life outside of this board you probably don't get any type of respect.

Good drop Makk.

The fact that some will believe Michael Jordan just walked on a court and did his thing is so foolish. It washes away the hard work and dedication the man put in, the type applied by a scientist that would lead him to a Nobel Prize.

As you said the socialization of this country perpetuates stereotypes and so a lot of young black men "feel" that the way out of they current environment is sports & entertainment.

As a black immigrant I consistently out perform and am way above my Asian colleagues, the ones that whites feel have a high IQ. same thing with my other African colleagues.

A lot of the shit is environment, in my original contry the way out of poverty is education. therefore there is a very strong drive to become educated. As a result we don't make a big deal about high school graduation, undergrad graduation until maybe Postgrad and that still depends on the parent.....

The fact that African Americans can discount African achievements as not belonging to them maens that that bred for physical shit can soak into their psyche.


50 000 yrs of intellectual achievement >>>> 300 years of physical slavery

Which traits do you think would dominate for you eugenics folks?



:cool:

Michael Jordan is a superior athlete because he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences. He possesses sports intelligence. Combine his intelligence with drive and his unique physically ability to maneuver in the air and you have a superior athlete.
 
Put it like this. Their thinking and vast knowledge isn't enough to contribute to this conversation. Just like you my eyes and mind don't lie.



So because it isn't wise to talking publicly about pairing doesn't make it true. I know one this. With this comment I won't respond to you anymore because you basically exposed your thinking. Either I'm smart or your dumb because muscles are physical characteristics.



Trust me man. You are wasting your time arguing with these cats. Animals are no different from humans except for the fact that we have larger brains; therefore I can't see why pairing humans would be a different from pairing animals.



If you know any better you would know black people tend to have smaller thighs than whites. Our muscles are more dense. Unfortunately you didn't know that. I remember this white dude told me in the gym when I was asking how can I get bigger calves like him. He said, "I'm suffering from Black Man legs". Basically I have stronger calves than him, but my calves are smaller because of my dense muscles.



This sounds like a dumb response on your behalf. If you are constantly working in fields all day long your muscles WILL become stronger. Last time I check muscles are physical attributes. Ok Mr. Paragraph. Answer this question for me how come most of your dominate sprinters are black people from the Western Hemisphere. When was the last time Africa produced a 100 or 200 meter sprint?? Aren't Africans and Western Africans both black???? When was the last time you seen a 100 or 200 meter White sprinter?? You can't tell me some white athletes don't work as hard as black sprinters? Notice all your fast sprinters in history came from the Western Hemisphere. Here is something else for you to think about. Why can't 2 red heads produce a blonde child?



Dude your logic isn't a jump. Your logic is on point.



I'm just as much of a fool as you. The difference between you and me on this board is my inbox is full of questions being ask about shit to help other brothas which I do on a consistent basis with results. Last time I check you don't ask a fool for advice. So your personal attacks doesn't affect me. I do notice most cats on this board with extremely high post counts don't have too much to say. This board is an outlet for you to ramble your chops because in your daily life outside of this board you probably don't get any type of respect.



Michael Jordan is a superior athlete because he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences. He possesses sports intelligence. Combine his intelligence with drive and his unique physically ability to maneuver in the air and you have a superior athlete.




he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences






Please drop that piece of knowledge Bro, can you list them???



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Dude is batting 50% on this one. On Jerry he could be correct. but on Jimmy the Greek, he does not get a pass, and neither does Jimmy. To paraphrase Jimmy the Greek, athletic prowess of the black athlete stemmed from the pairing of selective slaves to yield big strong bucks. Problem is ain't no fucking slave master was thinking about no fucking NFL,NBA or track and field for that matter. Second, the African genetic prowess as it relates to athletics is GOD GIVEN! Jimmy the Greek just ran off at the mouth what a lot of CAC's believe. What was next? the successful smart black athletes are the result of the slave masters' mixed race kids who passed on intellectual gifts to their descendants? GTHFOHWTBS!!!:angry:

you're wrong. Jimmy is right to some degree. They may not have been thinking about NFL or NBA, but there was likely to be some breeding for size, strength, or any asset that would be good for a WORKER. Hell, all humans do that when looking for a mate INDIVIDUALLY, so you know some SICK ass breeder types who felt superior would try it.


As far as God Given, you're on a slippery slop there, cuz it appears you debunked yourself with your next sentence. Your comment about light skinned slaves, and mixing with White, kinda makes it seem like yiou believe every white person has GOD GIVEN intellect. And not all Black folks are athletic, but you know that already.

Black folks, Asian, WHite, whatever-- we ALL make little slick comments like what he said, and muse on how certain aspects of different "races" evolved to what we see today.

He may have been ill informed on what he said, but the basic premise has some truth to it.
 
Let's find what we agree on. Do you believe that slave masters paired slaves for the purpose of producing stronger, healthier slaves?

Not really. That shit would be totally impractical and unpredictable without a sophisticated knowledge of each person's genetic history. Besides, slavemasters really didn't NEED a lot of "pregnant" and/or oversexed slaves.

Jimmy the Greek was spouting typical racist mythology.
 
Man I can;t believe this genetics bullshit is coming up again. You know why white people run that genetic bullshit, its because they don't want to admit that Blacks excel at sports because WE TRY HARDER AT THOSE SPORTS. However trying harder is a positive so white don't want to admit to that so they say its genetics which takes away any stigma toward whites about making any effort in any sport.

Now before anyone brings up sprinters and the rest and how they're always Black remember, most white track athlets avoid even trying out to be sprinters because they already believe from the get go that they can't compete.
 
Too much stupid shit to even address

:smh:

I've always found it interesting when people are so willing to buy into the idea of their own inferiority. You obviously don't know shit about this subject. A smarter cat would have just absconded from the thread after your initial uninformed post. Yet here you are, continuing to unapologetically support discredited ideas and doing the white man's work for him.
 
Jason, Jason,

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Get this Bell Curve bullshit thinking out of here. The late, great Stephan Jay Gould ripped that notion to shreds in the '90s.

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Actually, it was first published in 1981. "The Bell Curve" came out in 1994. I remember being at a lecture by Stephen Jay Gould in 1995 and the person who introduced him said there was no need for people to sit down and write a rebuttal - it had already been written 13 years before "The Bell Curve".

Stephen Jay Gould was on some next level shit. If you can, get his other books like "Wonderful Life" and "Ever Since Darwin" before you tackle "Mismeasure of Man". They are great introductions to his writing, Evolution and other topics. Dude loved baseball, too.
 
:smh:

I've always found it interesting when people are so willing to buy into the idea of their own inferiority. You obviously don't know shit about this subject. A smarter cat would have just absconded from the thread after your initial uninformed post. Yet here you are, continuing to unapologetically support discredited ideas and doing the white man's work for him.
:smh: Intellectual buckdancing.

Maybe he's right. Maybe he is the result of hundreds of years of house nigga breeding.
 
Peace,

"This whole thing reminds me of the way we ran Jimmy The Greek out of a TV job because he had a few pops at a bar and offered a harmless, layman’s theory on why American black athletes were having success in certain sports. I was just a kid when The Greek got screwed, but I was pissed then. Few people in the media had the courage to defend The Greek for saying what I’d heard in my father’s all-black tavern for years."

:smh: at a black man who can't differentiate between brothers in a bar talking shit and a white man with media pull perpetuating racist beliefs about black people.

The only problem with this "harmless, layman's theory" is that it is a byproduct of racism, pseudoscience and stupidity. In his attempt to capture some sort of contrarian title, Whitlock's lips have become permanently affixed to the white man's ass.


Obviously a lot of people have bought into this and continue to believe it.
Where did the shot at Sharpton come from? That's one of those "I'm okay. I don't like Al Sharpton." moves that exposes his agenda of placating White folks. Why didn't he pick Glen Beck or Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, people who've been telling their listeners about fake "death panels" and how the government was going to lock them up for not buying health insurance while Sharpton is hosting symposiums on education?
 
Not really. That shit would be totally impractical and unpredictable without a sophisticated knowledge of each person's genetic history. Besides, slavemasters really didn't NEED a lot of "pregnant" and/or oversexed slaves.

Jimmy the Greek was spouting typical racist mythology.

:yes:
 
Damn even Blunt knows whats up



I'm still laughing at this:


Michael Jordan is a superior athlete because he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences.

He possesses sports intelligence. Combine his intelligence with drive and his unique physically ability to maneuver in the air and you have a superior athlete.


:lol::lol::lol:
 
I'm still laughing at this:


Michael Jordan is a superior athlete because he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences.

He possesses sports intelligence. Combine his intelligence with drive and his unique physically ability to maneuver in the air and you have a superior athlete.


:lol::lol::lol:

:lol:

Too stupid for words. He obviously doesn't know shit about multiple intelligences and hasn't read any of Howard Gardner's work but he's in here talking about "sports intelligence." I guess bodily-kinesthetic intelligence was too multi-syllabic for him.
 
I'm still laughing at this:


Michael Jordan is a superior athlete because he possesses one of the 10 or 11 types of intelligences.

He possesses sports intelligence. Combine his intelligence with drive and his unique physically ability to maneuver in the air and you have a superior athlete.


:lol::lol::lol:
Man I read that and was about to go at it then I was like

"Hold up self, are you about to ask realistic and logical questions of a supposedly educated or knowledgeable day trader/campaign manager who believes there are 10 or 11 innate intelligences (Gardner MI bullshit) and that Black people owe many of their accomplishments to breeding programs that never existed?"

And I chilled.

:lol:

That chase dude has been constantly popping up with little buckwild anti-black statements and hypocritical bullshit but he's really exposing how fucking absolutely incorrigibly stupid he is.
If you want to have fun press him on that Multiple Intelligences bullshit. The dude who thought that bullshit up can't even defend it so it should be hilarious watching him try to.

Oh hey- wait. Maybe you shouldn't ridicule him because you may have to pm him for help! You know Chase Bannon is the only person on BGOL who helps Black people.
 
Sports intelligence Bro.....

I'm waiting for the next 9 or 10 types


:hmm:

Reading intelligence
Writing intelligence
Books intelligence
Singing intelligence
Cooking intelligence
Driving intelligence
Thinking intelligence
Comic intelligence
Porn intelligence
 
Man I read that and was about to go at it then I was like

"Hold up self, are you about to ask realistic and logical questions of a supposedly educated or knowledgeable day trader/campaign manager who believes there are 10 or 11 innate intelligences (Gardner MI bullshit) and that Black people owe many of their accomplishments to breeding programs that never existed?"

And I chilled.

:lol:

That chase dude has been constantly popping up with little buckwild anti-black statements and hypocritical bullshit but he's really exposing how fucking absolutely incorrigibly stupid he is.
If you want to have fun press him on that Multiple Intelligences bullshit. The dude who thought that bullshit up can't even defend it so it should be hilarious watching him try to.

Oh hey- wait. Maybe you shouldn't ridicule him because you may have to pm him for help! You know Chase Bannon is the only person on BGOL who helps Black people.

Peace,

On top of that, it's obvious that he hasn't even fucking READ Gardner - or much else for that matter - yet here he is "schooling" us on it.
 
:lol:

Too stupid for words. He obviously doesn't know shit about multiple intelligences and hasn't read any of Howard Gardner's work but he's in here talking about "sports intelligence." I guess bodily-kinesthetic intelligence was too multi-syllabic for him.
Man that shit had me rollin. MJ owes his success to being bred properly and having an innate bodily-kinesthetic intelligence! :lol:
I'm sure MJ would have appreciated being told that in High School so he could have done something other than practice and train for 30 years.

What bothers me most about this guy's clumsy mental soft shoe routine is that he actually thinks he can serve the interests of Black people while publicly regurgitating the most moronic racist bullshit that promotes nothing but stereotypes and negativity towards Blacks.
What is more racist than arguing away the accomplishments of Blacks through indefensibly stupid myths about breeding?
 
Man that shit had me rollin. MJ owes his success to being bred properly and having an innate bodily-kinesthetic intelligence! :lol:
I'm sure MJ would have appreciated being told that in High School so he could have done something other than practice and train for 30 years.

What bothers me most about this guy's clumsy mental soft shoe routine is that he actually thinks he can serve the interests of Black people while publicly regurgitating the most moronic racist bullshit that promotes nothing but stereotypes and negativity towards Blacks.
What is more racist than arguing away the accomplishments of Blacks through indefensibly stupid myths about breeding?

Peace,

Right. Because (and he CAN'T be stupid enough to not know this) the same crackers who put forth the eugenics arguments are the same ones who have historically argued that black folks aren't innately equipped to handle the intellectual rigmarole of self-rule.
 
Reading intelligence
Writing intelligence
Books intelligence
Singing intelligence
Cooking intelligence
Driving intelligence
Thinking intelligence
Comic intelligence
Porn intelligence

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
man if I was eating or drinking id be using my Heimlich Intelligence cuz id be chokin like a mufucka




Peace,

On top of that, it's obvious that he hasn't even fucking READ Gardner - or much else for that matter - yet here he is "schooling" us on it.

He obviously has low Books Intelligence.

I'm not saying any of what we're discussing here beyond a certain ability to reason or manipulate factual data is a sign of one's ability to be a successful political operative but I have some doubts as to the veracity of his claims to be a campaign manager for elections regarding high state office.
Maybe he has all the prerequisite multiple intelligences for that though, which says something about our political system. He clearly has the Porn Intelligence, Moron Intelligence, Lying Intelligence and Slave Intelligence on lock down.

Brother Ill I do believe that none of our spears shall pierce the dirty rose colored bubble that our good friend dwells within.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
man if I was eating or drinking id be using my Heimlich Intelligence cuz id be chokin like a mufucka






He obviously has low Books Intelligence.

I'm not saying any of what we're discussing here beyond a certain ability to reason or manipulate factual data is a sign of one's ability to be a successful political operative but I have some doubts as to the veracity of his claims to be a campaign manager for elections regarding high state office.
Maybe he has all the prerequisite multiple intelligences for that though, which says something about our political system. He clearly has the Porn Intelligence, Moron Intelligence, Lying Intelligence and Slave Intelligence on lock down.

Brother Ill I do believe that none of our spears shall pierce the dirty rose colored bubble that our good friend dwells within.

The cat in your sig has Nigga-punchin' intelligence.
 
Peace,

Right. Because (and he CAN'T be stupid enough to not know this) the same crackers who put forth the eugenics arguments are the same ones who have historically argued that black folks aren't innately equipped to handle the intellectual rigmarole of self-rule.
:lol: @ CANT

But Ill, I don't think you understand that we are just posting on a porn board (along with him) while he has helped untold numbers of black people via PM and in the real world, while we just sharpen our minds in the land of BGOL and know not of the universe beyond. Surely the fact that he has told us of his assistance to persons of color trumps any talk of what actually is good for Blacks!
 
The cat in your sig has Nigga-punchin' intelligence.
Yup. He can't help it son. He was born like that. :smh:

You know, my girl was a virgin the first time we hooked up and never even kissed a dude before. But she gave me brain on the first date. I'm glad I know she has that innate Sexual Intelligence and isn't a dirty whore!
 
you're wrong. Jimmy is right to some degree. They may not have been thinking about NFL or NBA, but there was likely to be some breeding for size, strength, or any asset that would be good for a WORKER. Hell, all humans do that when looking for a mate INDIVIDUALLY, so you know some SICK ass breeder types who felt superior would try it.
Didn't I tell you that the telephone in the limosuine was busted?
when I said breeding for what they called Bucks what did you think I was talking about? Their physical traits, next time I'll spell it out.




As far as God Given, you're on a slippery slop there, cuz it appears you debunked yourself with your next sentence. Your comment about light skinned slaves, and mixing with White, kinda makes it seem like yiou believe every white person has GOD GIVEN intellect. And not all Black folks are athletic, but you know that already.
What in the hell?@?@ what are you reading? First of all I didn't say THAT I hold the position that race mixing insinuates or suggests intellectual superiority over pure blacks. I SAID that may have been JIMMY THE GREEKS NEXT ASSUMPTION.

Black folks, Asian, WHite, whatever-- we ALL make little slick comments like what he said, and muse on how certain aspects of different "races" evolved to what we see today.

He may have been ill informed on what he said, but the basic premise has some truth to it.
If you believe that slave owners were thinking of what superior physical specimens would be capable of 200 years later, :smh: child please...Son, there is nothing positive to attribute to a slaveholding, slave breeding Buckrah!!!
 
:lol: @ CANT

But Ill, I don't think you understand that we are just posting on a porn board (along with him) while he has helped untold numbers of black people via PM and in the real world, while we just sharpen our minds in the land of BGOL and know not of the universe beyond. Surely the fact that he has told us of his assistance to persons of color trumps any talk of what actually is good for Blacks!

:lol:

See, this exchange has helped me. I had no idea that the revolution was waiting for me in my inbox. I need only await good Brother Bannon's PM to jumpstart my personal growth.
 
:lol:

See, this exchange has helped me. I had no idea that the revolution was waiting for me in my inbox. I need only await good Brother Bannon's PM to jumpstart my personal growth.
:lol:

not only will the revolution not be televised, it will only be available via PM

Your Revolutionary Intelligence is high.
 
:lol:

See, this exchange has helped me. I had no idea that the revolution was waiting for me in my inbox. I need only await good Brother Bannon's PM to jumpstart my personal growth.



:lol:

not only will the revolution not be televised, it will only be available via PM

Your Revolutionary Intelligence is high.

Reading intelligence
Writing intelligence
Books intelligence
Singing intelligence
Cooking intelligence
Driving intelligence
Thinking intelligence
Comic intelligence
Porn intelligence


PM me that shit too son, I don't have enough PM intelligence....

Has something to do with lead poisoning of my DNA from 400 years of shackles


:hmm:
 
Obviously a lot of people have bought into this and continue to believe it.
Where did the shot at Sharpton come from? That's one of those "I'm okay. I don't like Al Sharpton." moves that exposes his agenda of placating White folks. Why didn't he pick Glen Beck or Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, people who've been telling their listeners about fake "death panels" and how the government was going to lock them up for not buying health insurance while Sharpton is hosting symposiums on education?

It's a reused line, too-- I heard Bill Simmons a few weeks ago praising it like the face of Jesus appearing on toasted bread.
 
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