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James Bond Producers Are Reportedly Leaning Toward Idris Elba as the Next 007
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although I still disagree you do raise a lot of points.
a few caucazoids played bond and failed miserabley, Im just sayin why shouldnt he have that opportunity...
that being said, what franchise character would you like to see idris play??
Ain't seen a single Craig Bond Flick in the theater. I'm preordering tickets if Elba plays Bond
I'm torn as f*ck about this...hold on ill be back to explain why
I think "The Rock" beat you to this idea.
Idris Elba To Be the Villain in The Rock's Fast and the Furious Spinoff
https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...elba-fast-and-furious-spinoff-dwayne-johnson/
Negotiations are being finalized for Idris Elba to play the villain in the Fast and the Furious spinoff, Variety reports. The spinoff, titled Hobbs and Shaw, which will follow Dwayne Johnson's character, Luke Hobbs along with criminal Deckard Shaw, who will be reprised by Jason Statham. While the Furious franchise typically had the two going against one another, the sequel will have them joining forces against Elba's unnamed character.
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If Elba WANTS THIS?
Then I'm 100% with him...100%
And I can see WHY he would
this is ICONIC
this is modern myth a super hero
James Bond is a Symbol
So Idris doing this is equally as significant as iconic.
And ESPECIALLY for People of Color in the UK?
This would be LIFE AFFIRMING.
So for ALL that?
Yeah Dris take that.
these white folk hated that Bond was Scottish and Irish, blonde blue eyed etc etc...so an African Englishman?
DAMN RIGHT I'm all here for it.
but there is a flip...
James Bond IS a white guy and symbolizes that...
Daniel Craig did a fantastic job modernizing him
I am a life long Bond fan...
I get into fights cause I rep Tim Dalton because he was the CLOSEST Bond to the ACTUAL BOOKS.
People forget Bond was hitting women, killing women, I could go on...
but yeah he IS WHITE.
so I could legit understand a fan of Bond not liking it.
TOTALLY.
And it doesn't make them racist,
NECESSARILY
PROBABLY...but not necessarily
most likely...but a margin for error.
And I wanted Idris to have his OWN THING
hell I bet @largebillsonlyplease already got a spec script for 2 movies on his phone RIGHT NOW
for an agent of the SASS and MI-6 special unit going rogue.
I would MUCH rather that...so we have our OWN thing!
But at the same time I would love to see Black kids in the UK flocking to Bond like its THEIR Black Panther!
Black Panther made $70,629,039 in the United Kingdom
only China grossed more.
If Elba WANTS THIS?
Then I'm 100% with him...100%
And I can see WHY he would
this is ICONIC
this is modern myth a super hero
James Bond is a Symbol
So Idris doing this is equally as significant as iconic.
And ESPECIALLY for People of Color in the UK?
This would be LIFE AFFIRMING.
So for ALL that?
Yeah Dris take that.
these white folk hated that Bond was Scottish and Irish, blonde blue eyed etc etc...so an African Englishman?
DAMN RIGHT I'm all here for it.
but there is a flip...
James Bond IS a white guy and symbolizes that...
Daniel Craig did a fantastic job modernizing him
I am a life long Bond fan...
I get into fights cause I rep Tim Dalton because he was the CLOSEST Bond to the ACTUAL BOOKS.
People forget Bond was hitting women, killing women, I could go on...
but yeah he IS WHITE.
so I could legit understand a fan of Bond not liking it.
TOTALLY.
And it doesn't make them racist,
NECESSARILY
PROBABLY...but not necessarily
most likely...but a margin for error.
And I wanted Idris to have his OWN THING
hell I bet @largebillsonlyplease already got a spec script for 2 movies on his phone RIGHT NOW
for an agent of the SASS and MI-6 special unit going rogue.
I would MUCH rather that...so we have our OWN thing!
But at the same time I would love to see Black kids in the UK flocking to Bond like its THEIR Black Panther!
Black Panther made $70,629,039 in the United Kingdom
only China grossed more.
Nah. Fuck that either/or shit. I want both.
I like Bond. I like the mythology and the history. And Idris is perfect to continue the legacy.
Yes, we can have our "own thing" but I want THIS. Why can't we have both?
My wife loves Idris. She’ll have my ass there on opening day. I love Bond films so I’m down for sure.
Just make James bond the official name designation of any agent who is 007 and everything is solved
Easily done
James bond isn't his real name it's been a cover name all along and we find that out by having the current bond die in the beginning of the Idris film and then he's officially named 007 James Bond
I was actually for the FIRST TIME EVER..
actually thinking the SAME DAMN THING...
007 and James Bond...
are just names and numbers.
They changed Q...it was just a designation.
But I would NEED this James Bond to go to Puerto Rico and NY and I wouldn't mind Haiti.
sidebar...
continuinity isnt a BIG THING in Bong mythology but I would to somehow connect the previous films to Idris' run
if it ever actually happens.
Just make James bond the official name designation of any agent who is 007 and everything is solved
Easily done
James bond isn't his real name it's been a cover name all along and we find that out by having the current bond die in the beginning of the Idris film and then he's officially named 007 James Bond
I was actually for the FIRST TIME EVER..
actually thinking the SAME DAMN THING...
007 and James Bond...
are just names and numbers.
They changed Q...it was just a designation.
But I would NEED this James Bond to go to Puerto Rico and NY and I wouldn't mind Haiti.
sidebar...
continuinity isnt a BIG THING in Bong mythology but I would to somehow connect the previous films to Idris' run
if it ever actually happens.
Kill Craig
Also whoever was a black bond girl in the 70s is Idris mother
It's a damn fictional movie series Lexx ……just cut to the chase and say fuck any movie/tv series coming out of England....good or bad....… sometimes you just lose it with the racism...…
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What are you a mental midget? Racism? Either you don't know of the reign of tyranny The British Government and the Royal Family have exercised and still impose on the world or you side with those devils. What do you know about Derby's Dose huh? I don't say shit for the fuck of it like some fucking yahoos that post here. So miss me with the idiot shit. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a7612176.html
I get what you're saying. If not Bond I would like to see a spinoff of where Idris is a leading MI6 agent. Later on you can do a buddy cop style film with Idris & Craig working together to take down the bad guy.
Bingo. A character type that is licensed to kill in the on going fight to maintain white supremacy.
If Fuqua is doing it then yes if anyone else is doing it then no!
I agree with you (Ian Fleming wrote James Bond as white, and it would be hard for me to believe that Idris Elba as Bond would not encounter situations where race was not a factor), and would like to see more black characters developed for the cinematic screen.
I would like to see Idris Elba as a highly intelligent, charismatic super villian, make him the CIA informant in "Risico."
I was actually for the FIRST TIME EVER..
actually thinking the SAME DAMN THING...
007 and James Bond...
are just names and numbers.
They changed Q...it was just a designation.
But I would NEED this James Bond to go to Puerto Rico and NY and I wouldn't mind Haiti.
sidebar...
continuinity isnt a BIG THING in Bong mythology but I would to somehow connect the previous films to Idris' run
if it ever actually happens.
You made me think about "Live and Let Die," which I enjoyed for several reasons:
1. Yaphet Kotto was Mr. Big aka Dr. Kananga.
2. They filmed in New York City and included Harlem or East Harlem, New Orleans, Jamaica.
3. Had the largest black cast in a Bond film to date (with speaking roles).
Post is about a fictional spy series and you steer the ship into an iceberg with a "fuck the Britts and their tyranny"...…. like I said..... just ban everything from England to satisfy you.... fuck any good tv/movie series..... just fuck it all .....
…...
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Post is about a fictional spy series and you steer the ship into an iceberg with a "fuck the Britts and their tyranny"...…. like I said..... just ban everything from England to satisfy you.... fuck any good tv/movie series..... just fuck it all .....
.
I shouldn't even be surprised that would be your answer.
https://screenrant.com/idris-elba-james-bond-rumors-false/
All The Evidence Idris Elba WON'T Be James Bond
Recent rumors have once again stirred speculation that Luther star Idris Elba could be the next actor cast as James Bond - but right now the evidence just doesn't point that way. With his smooth voice, action movie credentials, and frequent appearances on "sexiest actor" lists, Elba's name has been thrown around as a possibility to play the next Bond for years now, but so far it has all been fan-casting, with no indications that Eon Productions is actually interested in casting him in the role.
However, that seemingly changed earlier this week when UK tabloid the Daily Starclaimed that The Equalizer director Antoine Fuqua had mentioned that James Bond producer Barbara Broccoli has told him "it is time" for a person of color to be cast in the role, and that "it will happen eventually." According to this article, Fuqua went on to add, "Idris could do it if he was in shape. You need a guy with physically strong presence. Idris has that."
Related: Mission: Impossible is Now Better Than James Bond
Now, right off the bat that's a thin basis for claiming that Eon is interested in casting Elba - in fact, it doesn't even really qualify as a rumor, since Fuqua, not Broccoli, supposedly suggested Elba for the role. However, given that Elba has been a popular (though controversial) choice for a while, discussion quickly spread across social media. Not long afterwards, Elba himself responded to the chatter by jokingly posting on social media, "My name's Elba, Idris Elba," soon following it up by telling people "Don't believe the HYPE." In fact, it seems that the initial report of Fuqua talking about Elba being cast as Bond may have been fabricated; a rep for Fuqua told THR that it was "all made up stuff," and that "[Fuqua] never had a conversation with Barbara about the franchise or about any casting."
Beyond the lack of evidence that Eon is considering Elba for the role, the casting really doesn't make sense. For starters, Elba is too old for the role - and that's not us being rude, that's from the man himself. Speaking in an interview with ABC around the release of Star Trek Beyond, Elba said, "If I'm really honest, I think I'm too old for that, man. Running around in cars, and ladies, and martinis... who wants to do that? It sounds terrible."
OK, he may have been joking, but realistically speaking Eon probably isn't looking to cast an actor who will already be in his 50s by the time his first movie hits theaters. Elba is around the same age as Daniel Craig, who is currently preparing to exit the role, and when recasting happens the studio will almost certainly be looking for someone (to borrow a line from Deadpool) young enough to carry their own franchise for 10 to 12 years - probably an actor under 40, like Craig was when he was cast. Craig still has another movie to go, with Danny Boyle directing the as-yet untitled 25th entry in the franchise. That movie is out in theaters in 2019 - at which point Elba will be 47, soon to turn 48.
There's certainly a lot of enthusiasm for Elba to play James Bond, but so far it's all come from fans, with no indication from either the studio or the actor that it's really on the cards. Perhaps Elba should do what Nathan Fillion did after years of being fan-cast as Nathan Drake, and simply star in a short fan film to give the people what they want.
All The Evidence Idris Elba WON'T Be James Bond
- BY HANNAH SHAW-WILLIAMS
- – ON AUG 12, 2018
- IN SR ORIGINALS
Recent rumors have once again stirred speculation that Luther star Idris Elba could be the next actor cast as James Bond - but right now the evidence just doesn't point that way. With his smooth voice, action movie credentials, and frequent appearances on "sexiest actor" lists, Elba's name has been thrown around as a possibility to play the next Bond for years now, but so far it has all been fan-casting, with no indications that Eon Productions is actually interested in casting him in the role.
However, that seemingly changed earlier this week when UK tabloid the Daily Starclaimed that The Equalizer director Antoine Fuqua had mentioned that James Bond producer Barbara Broccoli has told him "it is time" for a person of color to be cast in the role, and that "it will happen eventually." According to this article, Fuqua went on to add, "Idris could do it if he was in shape. You need a guy with physically strong presence. Idris has that."
Related: Mission: Impossible is Now Better Than James Bond
Now, right off the bat that's a thin basis for claiming that Eon is interested in casting Elba - in fact, it doesn't even really qualify as a rumor, since Fuqua, not Broccoli, supposedly suggested Elba for the role. However, given that Elba has been a popular (though controversial) choice for a while, discussion quickly spread across social media. Not long afterwards, Elba himself responded to the chatter by jokingly posting on social media, "My name's Elba, Idris Elba," soon following it up by telling people "Don't believe the HYPE." In fact, it seems that the initial report of Fuqua talking about Elba being cast as Bond may have been fabricated; a rep for Fuqua told THR that it was "all made up stuff," and that "[Fuqua] never had a conversation with Barbara about the franchise or about any casting."
Beyond the lack of evidence that Eon is considering Elba for the role, the casting really doesn't make sense. For starters, Elba is too old for the role - and that's not us being rude, that's from the man himself. Speaking in an interview with ABC around the release of Star Trek Beyond, Elba said, "If I'm really honest, I think I'm too old for that, man. Running around in cars, and ladies, and martinis... who wants to do that? It sounds terrible."
OK, he may have been joking, but realistically speaking Eon probably isn't looking to cast an actor who will already be in his 50s by the time his first movie hits theaters. Elba is around the same age as Daniel Craig, who is currently preparing to exit the role, and when recasting happens the studio will almost certainly be looking for someone (to borrow a line from Deadpool) young enough to carry their own franchise for 10 to 12 years - probably an actor under 40, like Craig was when he was cast. Craig still has another movie to go, with Danny Boyle directing the as-yet untitled 25th entry in the franchise. That movie is out in theaters in 2019 - at which point Elba will be 47, soon to turn 48.
There's certainly a lot of enthusiasm for Elba to play James Bond, but so far it's all come from fans, with no indication from either the studio or the actor that it's really on the cards. Perhaps Elba should do what Nathan Fillion did after years of being fan-cast as Nathan Drake, and simply star in a short fan film to give the people what they want.
Why James Bond Should Be Black But Batman Should Stay White
Illustration by: Guy Shield
With the Idris Elba 007 rumor again catching fire, columnist Marc Bernardin makes a nuanced argument for the race-blind casting of iconic characters — with a few key caveats.
There has been talk, for years now, about who should play the next James Bond. There are the obvious choices, like Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth, and the outliers, like Tom Hardy or Tom Hiddleston. And then there's Idris Elba.
In those emails hacked out of Sony, former studio chief Amy Pascal said what anyone who had seen the now-45-year-old actor steal every scene he was in on The Wire, prowl through Luther and cancel the apocalypse in Pacific Rim know to be true: "Idris should be the next Bond." When that rumor caught fire again last week, the reaction was two scoops of very familiar flavors: "Elba should play everything," and "James Bond is white and should always be white."
Now, I have skated close to this third rail before: Back in 2011, I wrote a column for the website io9 that said, perhaps, Spider-Man didn't need to be played by a white guy. That article led to the Donald Glover for Spidey "movement," which then inspired writer Brian Michael Bendis to create Miles Morales — the Afro-Latinx webslinger that's the star of this December's Marvel animated feature Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse — and more than one person to send me death threats. My reasoning was that there is nothing about Peter Parker that requires him to be Caucasian. The science nerd lives in Queens and comes from a broken home. He could be anything, from anywhere.
James Bond was, according to his British creator Ian Fleming, born to a Scottish father and a Swiss mother. He's an orphan, raised by his aunt. After short stints at boarding schools, he joins the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, then makes his way to the Ministry of Defence and lobbies for a slot in the Secret Service. Does any of that mandate he be played by a white actor? No. All that calls for a Caucasian is tradition — possibly the least interesting reason to refute innovation. (Tradition seems to be holding the Bond franchise back in more than one way: Clearly, director Danny Boyle wanted to do things that the standard-bearers didn't like, which resulted in him leaving Bond 25 over the traditional "creative differences.")
READ MORE
New Idris Elba as James Bond Rumor Is "All Made Up Stuff"
Add to this the fact that many Bond fans — myself included — always thought that "James Bond" was an identity that gets handed to the poor fool who inherits the 007 designation after the last guy gets killed in action. (Otherwise, why the hell would any secret agent keep telling everyone he meets that his name is "Bond, James Bond"? That implies a catastrophic misunderstanding of the word "secret.") So why can't the seventh guy to play James Bond in the franchise be a black guy?
On the other hand, let's take Batman. Or, rather, Bruce Wayne — another role that Elba's name has been mentioned for more than once. In DC Comics lore, the Wayne family has been part of Gotham City since before there was a Gotham City. They helped build it, the way the Carnegies, Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers helped build New York. To extricate the Waynes from Gotham would be like trying to take the sugar from a baked cake: Even if you could, why bother? No one would want what was left, anyway.
The Waynes, generation after generation, took as much from Gotham as they gave. Much of the crime that infected the city was as a result of the income gap enjoyed and propagated by the Waynes — until Bruce's father, Thomas, bucked the family code and became a doctor. He married a woman, Martha, who believed in charity. And they taught their son to be better than the Waynes that came before — that it is Bruce's responsibility as a Wayne to make Gotham a better place.
Bruce Wayne has to come from old money because he has to feel the generational guilt that comes with being a Wayne. So that when his parents are murdered on the streets of Gotham, the mania that grips a child is informed by those lessons from parents who chose to be better. To save lives.
Bruce Wayne has to be white because that kind of legacy and wealth don't exist in the African-American community. (Yet.) For that character to be true to who he is, he can't be anything else.
Do the foundations of the character call for a specific race? If the answer is no, to me, it's an open playing field. If the answer is yes, then dig in. And if the original author is still alive, she or he can shed some crucial light … as J.K. Rowling did after the casting of a black actress as Hermione Granger in the stage play Harry Potter and the Cursed Child caused some drama. "Canon: brown eyes, frizzy hair and very clever. White skin was never specified," Rowling tweeted. She would later follow with: "We found the best actress for the role and she's black. Bye bye, now."
The path forward for Bond producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson isn't easy, but it shouldn't be. Would I prefer a Hollywood that was incentivized to create franchises for someone like Idris Elba — or Tessa Thompson or John Boyega or Oscar Isaac — rather than have him step into a role that has been tapped as often as a frat party keg? Sure. But those are few and far between.
So I get that you want to increase diversity while making content in a world dominated by established, name-checkable IP. And I understand that you look to satisfy both masters at once. But you've got to do the hard thinking: Who is this character, essentially? Does race-blind casting violate the integrity of the character? If not, go for it. There will always be those who hate that because they think change is scary. It is … but only if you're the one who's decided to drop anchor in the past.
Illustration by: Guy Shield
With the Idris Elba 007 rumor again catching fire, columnist Marc Bernardin makes a nuanced argument for the race-blind casting of iconic characters — with a few key caveats.
There has been talk, for years now, about who should play the next James Bond. There are the obvious choices, like Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth, and the outliers, like Tom Hardy or Tom Hiddleston. And then there's Idris Elba.
In those emails hacked out of Sony, former studio chief Amy Pascal said what anyone who had seen the now-45-year-old actor steal every scene he was in on The Wire, prowl through Luther and cancel the apocalypse in Pacific Rim know to be true: "Idris should be the next Bond." When that rumor caught fire again last week, the reaction was two scoops of very familiar flavors: "Elba should play everything," and "James Bond is white and should always be white."
Now, I have skated close to this third rail before: Back in 2011, I wrote a column for the website io9 that said, perhaps, Spider-Man didn't need to be played by a white guy. That article led to the Donald Glover for Spidey "movement," which then inspired writer Brian Michael Bendis to create Miles Morales — the Afro-Latinx webslinger that's the star of this December's Marvel animated feature Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse — and more than one person to send me death threats. My reasoning was that there is nothing about Peter Parker that requires him to be Caucasian. The science nerd lives in Queens and comes from a broken home. He could be anything, from anywhere.
James Bond was, according to his British creator Ian Fleming, born to a Scottish father and a Swiss mother. He's an orphan, raised by his aunt. After short stints at boarding schools, he joins the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, then makes his way to the Ministry of Defence and lobbies for a slot in the Secret Service. Does any of that mandate he be played by a white actor? No. All that calls for a Caucasian is tradition — possibly the least interesting reason to refute innovation. (Tradition seems to be holding the Bond franchise back in more than one way: Clearly, director Danny Boyle wanted to do things that the standard-bearers didn't like, which resulted in him leaving Bond 25 over the traditional "creative differences.")
READ MORE
New Idris Elba as James Bond Rumor Is "All Made Up Stuff"
Add to this the fact that many Bond fans — myself included — always thought that "James Bond" was an identity that gets handed to the poor fool who inherits the 007 designation after the last guy gets killed in action. (Otherwise, why the hell would any secret agent keep telling everyone he meets that his name is "Bond, James Bond"? That implies a catastrophic misunderstanding of the word "secret.") So why can't the seventh guy to play James Bond in the franchise be a black guy?
On the other hand, let's take Batman. Or, rather, Bruce Wayne — another role that Elba's name has been mentioned for more than once. In DC Comics lore, the Wayne family has been part of Gotham City since before there was a Gotham City. They helped build it, the way the Carnegies, Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers helped build New York. To extricate the Waynes from Gotham would be like trying to take the sugar from a baked cake: Even if you could, why bother? No one would want what was left, anyway.
The Waynes, generation after generation, took as much from Gotham as they gave. Much of the crime that infected the city was as a result of the income gap enjoyed and propagated by the Waynes — until Bruce's father, Thomas, bucked the family code and became a doctor. He married a woman, Martha, who believed in charity. And they taught their son to be better than the Waynes that came before — that it is Bruce's responsibility as a Wayne to make Gotham a better place.
Bruce Wayne has to come from old money because he has to feel the generational guilt that comes with being a Wayne. So that when his parents are murdered on the streets of Gotham, the mania that grips a child is informed by those lessons from parents who chose to be better. To save lives.
Bruce Wayne has to be white because that kind of legacy and wealth don't exist in the African-American community. (Yet.) For that character to be true to who he is, he can't be anything else.
Do the foundations of the character call for a specific race? If the answer is no, to me, it's an open playing field. If the answer is yes, then dig in. And if the original author is still alive, she or he can shed some crucial light … as J.K. Rowling did after the casting of a black actress as Hermione Granger in the stage play Harry Potter and the Cursed Child caused some drama. "Canon: brown eyes, frizzy hair and very clever. White skin was never specified," Rowling tweeted. She would later follow with: "We found the best actress for the role and she's black. Bye bye, now."
The path forward for Bond producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson isn't easy, but it shouldn't be. Would I prefer a Hollywood that was incentivized to create franchises for someone like Idris Elba — or Tessa Thompson or John Boyega or Oscar Isaac — rather than have him step into a role that has been tapped as often as a frat party keg? Sure. But those are few and far between.
So I get that you want to increase diversity while making content in a world dominated by established, name-checkable IP. And I understand that you look to satisfy both masters at once. But you've got to do the hard thinking: Who is this character, essentially? Does race-blind casting violate the integrity of the character? If not, go for it. There will always be those who hate that because they think change is scary. It is … but only if you're the one who's decided to drop anchor in the past.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...ious-masked-gunman-chases-young-girl-ice.html
James Bond 25 gets underway in snowy Norway after four-year wait as a mysterious masked gunman chases a young girl across the ice (but Daniel Craig is nowhere in sight)
By Jason Chester for MailOnline
Published: 07:02 EDT, 29 March 2019 | Updated: 09:16 EDT, 29 March 2019
James Bond 25 gets underway in snowy Norway after four-year wait as a mysterious masked gunman chases a young girl across the ice (but Daniel Craig is nowhere in sight)
By Jason Chester for MailOnline
Published: 07:02 EDT, 29 March 2019 | Updated: 09:16 EDT, 29 March 2019
Until we get answers on the suspicious deaths of recording artists and their children, we need to boycott their products to send a message.
Nowadays you can just BitTorrent the movie and setting up a VPN is easy to mask your identity.
They need to clear out all their retarded management involved in this crap
Nowadays you can just BitTorrent the movie and setting up a VPN is easy to mask your identity.
They need to clear out all their retarded management involved in this crap
The pink boys of BGOL not even trying to disguise themselves anymore.
they won't
unless someone comes up with a spinoff that would rival 007 with Idris as the lead
unless someone comes up with a spinoff that would rival 007 with Idris as the lead
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