Jail Riots Illustrate Larger Racial Divide in California

Greed said:
now quote the part where you called us the n-word.

now thats racist.

Naw it ain't bortha,all I do is hang around Black and Brown and we all speak that way,nothing racist in they way I was using it ,nor was their any malice in it.My familia is Black and Brown and we have no problem with nor do our friends.And if you think I used it like a crackkka would then your sadly mistaken.. :smh: :smh:

This is how you preform for them crackkkas everytime you toss out racial insults towards another person of color. :dance:
 
mexican isnt a race.

and the n-word has only one history and its racist.

what does it matter to me if you and your mexican loving sellout friends exchange it freely.
 
Brown Pride said:
Naw it ain't bortha,all I do is hang around Black and Brown and we all speak that way,nothing racist in they way I was using it ,nor was their any malice in it.My familia is Black and Brown and we have no problem with nor do our friends.And if you think I used it like a crackkka would then your sadly mistaken.. :smh: :smh:

This is how you preform for them crackkkas everytime you toss out racial insults towards another person of color. :dance:
If all of that is true, and you're "used to" this kind of shit, then why were you
so upset, hermano, by what-you-call insults aimed at you -- that is, why were you playing the Insulted Mexican ??? Double standard ??? Or, Mexican Racist ???

QueEx
 
Brown Pride said:
Nothing foule here ay quenazi????????

Great Grand-son x 10,

Loud and clear so there will be no confusion. You are "BLACK"!! I love all that is BLACK. But living in that dirty, nasty, pissy ass, toilet known as mess-i-co has clouded your thinking. To many tacos, burrittos, cheap prostitutes, child pornographers, corrupt ruling class that is European (Spain) but born in mess-i-co.

If you continue this silly, lazy, theiving, undocumented, illegal papers having, work for any wages, love white people, want to be white, jealous of BEAUTIFUL BLACK people, refuse to learn english in amerikkka, thinks CALI is a still part of mess-i-co, overburdening of the system, but won't pay into it...DUMB ASS, WETBACK, BOARDER HOPPING, TORTILLA EAT'IN, SHIT SMELL'IN mess-ican way of thinking!!!

Then I will send you to your room with your other 50 undocumented mess-i-can relatives, with no menudo!

Please don't make me do that, I love you Great Grand-son x10 because you are BLACK!!

PS
Are U coming to the family reunion? It will be at Belle Isle in August during the AFRICAN AMERICAN FESTIVAL in the "D"!!
 
QueEx said:
If all of that is true, and you're "used to" this kind of shit, then why were you
so upset, hermano, by what-you-call insults aimed at you -- that is, why were you playing the Insulted Mexican ??? Double standard ??? Or, Mexican Racist ???

QueEx

Que your a joke,you trying to flip the script and call me a racist when all this racist bullshit was tossed out at me for no other reason than because I'm Mexican.I see you have been learning weel from your white masters........Keep doing this for them :dance: :smh:
 
BUMBAY DA DOGG said:
Great Grand-son x 10,

Loud and clear so there will be no confusion. You are "BLACK"!! I love all that is BLACK. But living in that dirty, nasty, pissy ass, toilet known as mess-i-co has clouded your thinking. To many tacos, burrittos, cheap prostitutes, child pornographers, corrupt ruling class that is European (Spain) but born in mess-i-co.

If you continue this silly, lazy, theiving, undocumented, illegal papers having, work for any wages, love white people, want to be white, jealous of BEAUTIFUL BLACK people, refuse to learn english in amerikkka, thinks CALI is a still part of mess-i-co, overburdening of the system, but won't pay into it...DUMB ASS, WETBACK, BOARDER HOPPING, TORTILLA EAT'IN, SHIT SMELL'IN mess-ican way of thinking!!!

Then I will send you to your room with your other 50 undocumented mess-i-can relatives, with no menudo!

Please don't make me do that, I love you Great Grand-son x10 because you are BLACK!!

PS
Are U coming to the family reunion? It will be at Belle Isle in August during the AFRICAN AMERICAN FESTIVAL in the "D"!!

See this Quenazi..............Keep donig this :dance: and let them shout out all their racial hate...... :smh: :smh: Your a joke of a mod quenazi :smh: :smh:
 
Brown Pride said:
Que your a joke,you trying to flip the script and call me a racist when all this racist bullshit was tossed out at me for no other reason than because I'm Mexican.I see you have been learning weel from your white masters........Keep doing this for them :dance: :smh:
You flipped your own script. You've been exposed for the trash you are. So when I sweep you out the next time, you'll know why.

QueEx
 
Brown Pride said:
Your words of ignorance sound just like a crackkka.......only your to dumb to see it .................

"we are indigenous to this continent"

How is that? Are you a Native-American? Are you admitting to being descended from OLMECS (AFRICANS)?

Great Grand-son x10,

Please answer the question.
 
QueEx said:
You flipped your own script. You've been exposed for the trash you are.

QueEx

Your funny Quenazi,how can one bexposed,I guess because I exposed you for what you really are.Truth hurts don't it quenazi......... :smh: :smh:Quenazi don't like being exposed ......... :yes:
 
BUMBAY DA DOGG said:
"we are indigenous to this continent"

How is that? Are you a Native-American? Are you admitting to being descended from OLMECS (AFRICANS)?

Great Grand-son x10,

Please answer the question.

Did I ever say i wasn't................ :hmm:
 
Brown Pride said:
See this Quenazi..............Keep donig this :dance: and let them shout out all their racial hate...... :smh: :smh: Your a joke of a mod quenazi :smh: :smh:

What? I'm inviting my Great Grand-son x10 to a meeting with our family. I told my Great Grand-son x10 I love him because he was BLACK! What?

I also point out some of his flawed thinking. What?
 
Brown Pride said:
Did I ever say i wasn't................ :hmm:

Hi Great Grand-son x10,

You never said you were BLACK? I want to hear it from your very own lips, What?

U seen to be stuck on this mess-i-can nonsense. U are BLACK, U are BLACK, repeat after me "I'M BLACK, I'M BLACK and PROUD"!!.

Repeat that 451 times a day for every year our AFRICANSpeople have been held in servitude in amerikkka.

Man, I love my BLACK PEOPLE and my Great Grand-son x10.
 
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BUMBAY DA DOGG said:
What? I'm inviting my Great Grand-son x10 to a meeting with our family. I told my Great Grand-son x10 I love him because he was BLACK! What?

I also point out some of his flawed thinking. What?


Come down to Clark park for Cinco de Mayo mi hermano,we always have a big pachanga and you invited.I like Belle Isle,I'll be their to meet you familia,you got ant single women in you familia so I can holla at them.......For real,No jooke here.
 
BUMBAY DA DOGG said:
Hi Great Grand-son x10,

You never said you were BLACK? I want to here it from your very own lips, What?

U seen to be stuck on this mess-i-can nosense. U are BLACK, U are BLACK, repeat after me "I'M BLACK, I'M BLACK and PROUD"!!.

Repeat that 451 times a day for every year your people AFRICANS have been held in servitude in amerikkka.

Man, I love my BLACK PEOPLE and my Great Grand-son x10.

You love your Black people ,I love my Brown people,end of story...........
 
mexico- a piece of shit country that's so fucked up and wack that each year thousands of mexicans risk death to leave it

mexican- people so fuckin weak and stupid that they rather risk death to break American laws to become illegal aliens in the US to work and use social services and protest for better treatment from America while being too fuckin cowardous and retarded to stay in their own country and protest for better treatment


mexicans are not a race they are the bastard mutts that inhabit mexico

wetback upsets you? why? did you come to this nation illegally by swimming ?

beaner upsets you? do you eat alot of beans?


stop all this black brown love affair bullshit Jose

you came in here throwin around a racist word way before I ever said shit to you that was nationalist in nature

this thread is proof

fuck all that you and your black friends bullshit too- you have no black friends around here who want to hear you say anything close to the n-word


youre also a fake hypocritical tortilla eating bitch since you have nothing to say about why your precious homeland aint fit to live or work in anymore or why your precious homeland has black people drawn up as coons on their stamps


why the fuck do you care if we bust mexico jokes? you obviously dont love mexico enough to be there nor do your millions of asshole brethren scramblin like roaches over the border

this aint mexico bitch
take that brown pride shit south of the rio grande
 
hey guys!!!!!!! we had it all wrong- look how much mexicans really love us


mexstamp.jpg
 
Brown Pride said:
You love your Black people ,I love my Brown people,end of story...........

Great Grand-son x10,

When have you ever seen a mess-i-can that was brown? These white people have really fucked up your mind!

U make me so ashamed of you and your ignorance, Great Grand-son x10. But still ain't as bad as these dirty ass crackas sitt'in on this bitch masquerading as cyber-BROTHERS.

Well on second thought? U R a wannabe cracka!
 
BUMBAY DA DOGG said:
Great Grand-son x10,

When have you ever seen a mess-i-can that was brown? These white people have really fucked up your mind!

U make me so ashamed of you and your ignorance, Great Grand-son x10. But still ain't as bad as these dirty ass crackas sitt'in on this bitch masquerading as cyber-BROTHERS.

Well on second thought? U R a wannabe cracka!

[SIZE=2[SIZE=2]]Why do you keep posting your racist ass thoughts,all you do is show how ignorant you are.Have I ever tossed out a racial insult towards you ,or for that matter anyother Brother on this board?But from jump you came at me tossing out the Crackkka way of saying Mexican.So it proves your are just as ignorant and racist as them.You the crackkka wannabe you jus trying to spin some shiit and hoping ,the other racist ignorant Brothas join you crackkka life.
Your dumber than a crackkka,this is what you do for them ,but your to stupid to see it. :dance: .Your fighting against us because that is what they want,they are cowards and don't have the balls to do it themselves.But they will use you to do their devils work,conquer and divide people of color is the white mans desire,that way they can reep the spoils of this stolen land.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
 
Dolemite said:
hey guys!!!!!!! we had it all wrong- look how much mexicans really love us


mexstamp.jpg

You fail to point out that Memin Penguin,they person depicted here was the hero of this comic strip.You know this to be true,because you and I already had a convo on this when it first came out.Don't try and spin shit Dolomite,remember your Latino to.Eres Panameno verdar, requerdas mi hermano.Tu sabes mi hermano,no te preicupos mi hermano,yo tengo amor para mi gente Latino,y mi gente Africano.
 
Greed said:
speedy gonzales was the hero of the cartoon as well.

mexicans bitched and moaned about that.

And you point is????????????????Becaues we liked Speddy,,,,,,,,,,oral'e epa ,epa,It was the frto bandido we didn't like.......... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :lol:
 
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Brown Pride said:
You fail to point out that Memin Penguin,they person depicted here was the hero of this comic strip.You know this to be true,because you and I already had a convo on this when it first came out.Don't try and spin shit Dolomite,remember your Latino to.Eres Panameno verdar, requerdas mi hermano.Tu sabes mi hermano,no te preicupos mi hermano,yo tengo amor para mi gente Latino,y mi gente Africano.
wtf? you stupid beer guzzlin fence jumper

just because some racist mexican scumbag makes some shitty hateful depiction of a black person and makes them the main character of a comic book that makes it a good thing?

:smh:

Al Jolson was a main character in lots of shit while in black face but that made it okay since he was the "hero"?

"Amos and Andy" and StepnFetchit( the duo and soloist) were the main characters in their racist bullshit shows but that didnt make it OK poncho

Go back to Tijuana and learn how to fuckin think dumbass

Im gonna make a comic book called Brown Pride and its gonna be about a 4'3 homosexual door to door taco salesman who likes to talk shit to black people on the internet in between siestas and running cocaine and illegals accross the border. He lost his left hand in a cock fight so all he has there now is a switch blade attached with duct tape. With his trusty switch blade he steals cars and robs old ladies for their purses and in between his life of homo bullshit, internet lies and petty crime he impregnates 13 yr old mexican girls and gives them various STDs.
But that shouldnt bother you since you will be the "hero" of the comic.

stupid bitch

I'm latin too? If I was I'd go down Mexico way and get in on all that great mexican pride that makes you idiots hop fences to leave.
 
Dolemite said:
wtf? you stupid beer guzzlin fence jumper

just because some racist mexican scumbag makes some shitty hateful depiction of a black person and makes them the main character of a comic book that makes it a good thing?

:smh:

Al Jolson was a main character in lots of shit while in black face but that made it okay since he was the "hero"?

"Amos and Andy" and StepnFetchit( the duo and soloist) were the main characters in their racist bullshit shows but that didnt make it OK poncho

Go back to Tijuana and learn how to fuckin think dumbass

Im gonna make a comic book called Brown Pride and its gonna be about a 4'3 homosexual door to door taco salesman who likes to talk shit to black people on the internet in between siestas and running cocaine and illegals accross the border. He lost his left hand in a cock fight so all he has there now is a switch blade attached with duct tape. With his trusty switch blade he steals cars and robs old ladies for their purses and in between his life of homo bullshit, internet lies and petty crime he impregnates 13 yr old mexican girls and gives them various STDs.
But that shouldnt bother you since you will be the "hero" of the comic.

stupid bitch

I'm latin too? If I was I'd go down Mexico way and get in on all that great mexican pride that makes you idiots hop fences to leave.


Your white aren't ya???????? :confused:
 
<font size="5"><center>4 Los Angeles Latino Gang Members Convicted
of Anti-Black Conspiracy</font size>

<font size="4">The jury finds that the defendants terrorized
African Americans to try to drive them from the neighborhood</font size></center>

Los Angeles Times
By Joe Mozingo, Times Staff Writer
August 2, 2006


Four members of a Latino gang in Highland Park were found guilty Tuesday of unleashing a barrage of assaults and killings to push African Americans out of the predominantly Latino community in northeast Los Angeles.

The verdicts in a downtown federal courtroom marked the first time a street gang had been convicted of breaking federal hate crime laws, traditionally employed against white supremacist groups like skinheads and the Ku Klux Klan.

"I'm glad the truth is out," said Luisa Prudhomme, whose 21-year-old son, Anthony, was killed when Avenues members allegedly kicked open his door and shot him in the head as he lay on a futon.

"This wasn't just regular gang activity as usual," she said. "This was hate crime. They promoted hatred and racism and ignorance."

The four defendants — Gilbert "Lucky" Saldana, 27; Alejandro "Bird" Martinez, 28; Fernando "Sneaky" Cazares, 25; and Porfirio "Dreamer" Avila, 31 — face life in prison without the possibility of parole for their roles in the conspiracy. Sentencing for the first three was set for Oct. 23; for Avila, the date is Nov. 20.

Defense attorneys did not return calls for comment Tuesday, but one of them said in a previous conversation that there were numerous grounds for appeal.

From the start, the defense argued that prosecutors Alex Bustamante and Bobbi Bernstein had stretched civil rights statutes and Reconstruction-era anti-slavery laws way beyond their intended purposes to bring the case under federal jurisdiction. The judge denied their motions to dismiss the indictment on this basis, but the arguments will surely come up again in appeals court.

The Avenues date back to the 1950s and get their name from the numbered avenues that traverse the hills and ravines of Highland Park. The defendants on trial were part of the Tiny Locos, younger members of a clique called Avenues 43.

The compendium of crimes laid out against the gang members blended the most chilling aspects of old-time Deep South bigotry with a modern interracial rancor that has developed — to some extent — in struggling pockets of urban Los Angeles.

But unlike other racial gang strife in the city, the Avenues' violence was deliberately aimed at African Americans with no gang affiliations, including women and children. The gang scrawled threats and racial epithets in graffiti on walls.

Among crimes committed by the defendants from 1995 to 2001, according to testimony, were shooting a 15-year-old boy riding a bike; hitting a jogger in the head with a pistol; drawing outlines of human bodies in chalk on a family's driveway, along with a racial slur; and knocking a woman off her bike, threatening her husband with a box cutter, and saying, "You ------s have been here long enough."

One night in April 1999, the defendants were riding in a van and came upon a black man, Kenneth Wilson, parking his Cadillac. When Martinez asked if anyone wanted to kill a black man, three of them jumped out, ran up to Wilson's windows and opened fire, witnesses said. A shot to the head killed him before the car had even rolled to a stop.

Saldana bragged later that he just wanted to test out his new 9-millimeter Ruger.

Another black man, Christopher Bowser, was harassed and beaten up by the defendants for years. In December 2000, he filed a police report saying Martinez had assaulted and robbed him at a bus stop near his house. A week later, Bowser was shot to death at the same bus stop on Figueroa Street.

Five days later, Avila told a fellow gang member, in a taped phone call from jail, that he and Martinez had been beating up mayates for weeks, using a Spanish-language epithet for blacks. After mentioning Bowser, he added, "That fool is gone." Avila was convicted in state court of the murder.

Throughout the nearly monthlong trial, defense attorneys tried to discredit the prosecutors' key witnesses — two imprisoned members of the Avenues who testified against their brethren — as well as two police officers who took the case to the FBI and U.S. attorney. The lawyers introduced black witnesses who said they had never had any problems in Highland Park.

And in a bid to show there was no gang policy of racism, they brought in two black women — the girlfriend of defendant Saldana when he lived in Arizona and the wife of an Avenues member who had nothing to do with the conspiracy and only vaguely knew the defendants.

As evidenced by the verdict, the jury did not buy the defense's line.

The defendants sat casually throughout the testimony, wearing shirts, ties, sweaters and reading glasses, hair neatly combed.

But prosecutors tarnished their junior executive image by displaying photos showing their hidden tattoos on a screen directly above their heads. Jurors studied the large chest tattoos of the gang's logo — a bullet-pierced skull wearing a fedora and a fur collar. More damaging: the slogan "43 Kills for Thrills" etched on Martinez's shaved head.

In her closing argument, Bernstein, a deputy chief in the civil rights division of the Justice Department, painted a picture of inhuman brutality, sometimes killing on a whim.

"These defendants and their co-conspirators riddled [Kenneth Wilson's] car with bullets and shot him through the carotid artery, and they sped away and left him to bleed to death in front of his nephew because he was black and he dared to park his car on their street," she said.

"These defendants and their co-conspirators tortured Christopher Bowser. They beat him and harassed him and chased him, and they warned him and threatened him and shot him in the face," Bernstein said.

"They left that man to die in the street like a dog because he was black and dared to live on Avenue 44.

"That's what this case is about."

The defense claimed that police had concocted the conspiracy by linking a bunch of random attacks — thus inflating common gang violence into a conspiracy against civil rights.

"This indictment was meant to grab headlines," said Manuel Araujo, representing Saldana, in his closing arguments. "It was based on a fiction."

The jury deliberated for two days.

Joe R. Hicks, vice president of the Los Angeles civil rights group Community Advocates, said the Highland Park racial violence was unique in the city. He said there have been deadly turf wars between black and Latino gangs in Venice and in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood, but never such violence targeting innocent people solely because of their race.

However, what happened in Highland Park stems from a broader racial tension in the city, he said. In some parts of Los Angeles, blacks feel Latinos are taking over their neighborhoods, displacing them to "the bottom of the market." Latinos, particularly immigrants, sometimes harbor anti-black prejudice that they or their parents carried over the border, he said. And these notions harden in high school, where racial fights are not uncommon, and become truly ominous in prison.

The old dynamic of a powerful white majority oppressing a black minority is way too simple, and increasingly obscure, these days, he said.

"You step back and ask: Can black folks be bigots? Can Latinos be bigots? It's clear that these gang members had an animus against blacks, Hicks said. "With the diversity of today's world, we have to look at racism in a more encompassing way."

The case started with LAPD officers who hit some obstacles in state court. They took their evidence to FBI agent Jerry Fradella and Assistant U.S. Atty. Thomas P. O'Brien, who brought in Bernstein to help them make the civil rights case.

In court papers, prosecutors said they had a witness who would testify that the Mexican Mafia, which controls many local Latino gangs, ordered the Avenues to carry out the attacks on African Americans. But the defense was ready to rip into that witness' credibility; ultimately, the government never brought him to the stand.

The question now is whether federal law enforcement has gained a powerful tool against gangs, particularly ones doing the bidding of race-based prison gangs.

O'Brien, who is now chief of the criminal division in Los Angeles, compared the civil rights laws with laws on narcotics, guns and racketeering that also help them prosecute gang members in the federal realm.

He said his office is looking at other cases "where gang members are assailing individuals due to their race."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues2aug02,0,6797351.story?page=1
 
QueEx said:
<font size="5"><center>4 Los Angeles Latino Gang Members Convicted
of Anti-Black Conspiracy</font size>

<font size="4">The jury finds that the defendants terrorized
African Americans to try to drive them from the neighborhood</font size></center>

Los Angeles Times
By Joe Mozingo, Times Staff Writer
August 2, 2006


Four members of a Latino gang in Highland Park were found guilty Tuesday of unleashing a barrage of assaults and killings to push African Americans out of the predominantly Latino community in northeast Los Angeles.

The verdicts in a downtown federal courtroom marked the first time a street gang had been convicted of breaking federal hate crime laws, traditionally employed against white supremacist groups like skinheads and the Ku Klux Klan.

"I'm glad the truth is out," said Luisa Prudhomme, whose 21-year-old son, Anthony, was killed when Avenues members allegedly kicked open his door and shot him in the head as he lay on a futon.

"This wasn't just regular gang activity as usual," she said. "This was hate crime. They promoted hatred and racism and ignorance."

The four defendants — Gilbert "Lucky" Saldana, 27; Alejandro "Bird" Martinez, 28; Fernando "Sneaky" Cazares, 25; and Porfirio "Dreamer" Avila, 31 — face life in prison without the possibility of parole for their roles in the conspiracy. Sentencing for the first three was set for Oct. 23; for Avila, the date is Nov. 20.

Defense attorneys did not return calls for comment Tuesday, but one of them said in a previous conversation that there were numerous grounds for appeal.

From the start, the defense argued that prosecutors Alex Bustamante and Bobbi Bernstein had stretched civil rights statutes and Reconstruction-era anti-slavery laws way beyond their intended purposes to bring the case under federal jurisdiction. The judge denied their motions to dismiss the indictment on this basis, but the arguments will surely come up again in appeals court.

The Avenues date back to the 1950s and get their name from the numbered avenues that traverse the hills and ravines of Highland Park. The defendants on trial were part of the Tiny Locos, younger members of a clique called Avenues 43.

The compendium of crimes laid out against the gang members blended the most chilling aspects of old-time Deep South bigotry with a modern interracial rancor that has developed — to some extent — in struggling pockets of urban Los Angeles.

But unlike other racial gang strife in the city, the Avenues' violence was deliberately aimed at African Americans with no gang affiliations, including women and children. The gang scrawled threats and racial epithets in graffiti on walls.

Among crimes committed by the defendants from 1995 to 2001, according to testimony, were shooting a 15-year-old boy riding a bike; hitting a jogger in the head with a pistol; drawing outlines of human bodies in chalk on a family's driveway, along with a racial slur; and knocking a woman off her bike, threatening her husband with a box cutter, and saying, "You ------s have been here long enough."

One night in April 1999, the defendants were riding in a van and came upon a black man, Kenneth Wilson, parking his Cadillac. When Martinez asked if anyone wanted to kill a black man, three of them jumped out, ran up to Wilson's windows and opened fire, witnesses said. A shot to the head killed him before the car had even rolled to a stop.

Saldana bragged later that he just wanted to test out his new 9-millimeter Ruger.

Another black man, Christopher Bowser, was harassed and beaten up by the defendants for years. In December 2000, he filed a police report saying Martinez had assaulted and robbed him at a bus stop near his house. A week later, Bowser was shot to death at the same bus stop on Figueroa Street.

Five days later, Avila told a fellow gang member, in a taped phone call from jail, that he and Martinez had been beating up mayates for weeks, using a Spanish-language epithet for blacks. After mentioning Bowser, he added, "That fool is gone." Avila was convicted in state court of the murder.

Throughout the nearly monthlong trial, defense attorneys tried to discredit the prosecutors' key witnesses — two imprisoned members of the Avenues who testified against their brethren — as well as two police officers who took the case to the FBI and U.S. attorney. The lawyers introduced black witnesses who said they had never had any problems in Highland Park.

And in a bid to show there was no gang policy of racism, they brought in two black women — the girlfriend of defendant Saldana when he lived in Arizona and the wife of an Avenues member who had nothing to do with the conspiracy and only vaguely knew the defendants.

As evidenced by the verdict, the jury did not buy the defense's line.

The defendants sat casually throughout the testimony, wearing shirts, ties, sweaters and reading glasses, hair neatly combed.

But prosecutors tarnished their junior executive image by displaying photos showing their hidden tattoos on a screen directly above their heads. Jurors studied the large chest tattoos of the gang's logo — a bullet-pierced skull wearing a fedora and a fur collar. More damaging: the slogan "43 Kills for Thrills" etched on Martinez's shaved head.

In her closing argument, Bernstein, a deputy chief in the civil rights division of the Justice Department, painted a picture of inhuman brutality, sometimes killing on a whim.

"These defendants and their co-conspirators riddled [Kenneth Wilson's] car with bullets and shot him through the carotid artery, and they sped away and left him to bleed to death in front of his nephew because he was black and he dared to park his car on their street," she said.

"These defendants and their co-conspirators tortured Christopher Bowser. They beat him and harassed him and chased him, and they warned him and threatened him and shot him in the face," Bernstein said.

"They left that man to die in the street like a dog because he was black and dared to live on Avenue 44.

"That's what this case is about."

The defense claimed that police had concocted the conspiracy by linking a bunch of random attacks — thus inflating common gang violence into a conspiracy against civil rights.

"This indictment was meant to grab headlines," said Manuel Araujo, representing Saldana, in his closing arguments. "It was based on a fiction."

The jury deliberated for two days.

Joe R. Hicks, vice president of the Los Angeles civil rights group Community Advocates, said the Highland Park racial violence was unique in the city. He said there have been deadly turf wars between black and Latino gangs in Venice and in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood, but never such violence targeting innocent people solely because of their race.

However, what happened in Highland Park stems from a broader racial tension in the city, he said. In some parts of Los Angeles, blacks feel Latinos are taking over their neighborhoods, displacing them to "the bottom of the market." Latinos, particularly immigrants, sometimes harbor anti-black prejudice that they or their parents carried over the border, he said. And these notions harden in high school, where racial fights are not uncommon, and become truly ominous in prison.

The old dynamic of a powerful white majority oppressing a black minority is way too simple, and increasingly obscure, these days, he said.

"You step back and ask: Can black folks be bigots? Can Latinos be bigots? It's clear that these gang members had an animus against blacks, Hicks said. "With the diversity of today's world, we have to look at racism in a more encompassing way."

The case started with LAPD officers who hit some obstacles in state court. They took their evidence to FBI agent Jerry Fradella and Assistant U.S. Atty. Thomas P. O'Brien, who brought in Bernstein to help them make the civil rights case.

In court papers, prosecutors said they had a witness who would testify that the Mexican Mafia, which controls many local Latino gangs, ordered the Avenues to carry out the attacks on African Americans. But the defense was ready to rip into that witness' credibility; ultimately, the government never brought him to the stand.

The question now is whether federal law enforcement has gained a powerful tool against gangs, particularly ones doing the bidding of race-based prison gangs.

O'Brien, who is now chief of the criminal division in Los Angeles, compared the civil rights laws with laws on narcotics, guns and racketeering that also help them prosecute gang members in the federal realm.

He said his office is looking at other cases "where gang members are assailing individuals due to their race."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues2aug02,0,6797351.story?page=1

Peace Que,

"He said his office is looking at other cases "where gang members are assailing individuals due to their race."

If this is really true then he don't have to look far. It s about a half dozen situations I can think of off-hand and I don't gang bang!

1. The BPS (BLACK P-Stone) Bity Stones vs the 18th Street
2. The BPS (BLACK P-Stone) Jungle Stones vs the 18th Street
2. East Coast Gangster Crips vs Florencia
3. Gear Gang Crips vs 18th Street
4. Neighborhood Rolling 60 Crips vs Florencia (low-key just starting)
5. Insane Crips (Long Beach) vs Longos
6. BLACK PEOPLE in Compton (Mother, Father, kid, crack-head, hoe mess-i-cans is blasting) vs damn near every "mess-i-can" gang in Compton.
7. 190 East Coast Block Crips (Carson, CA) vs damn I forget those mess-i-can's name
8. Raymond Ave Gangster Crips vs South Lo's
9. 111 Block Crips vs South Lo's
10. Black Gangs in San Bernardino vs mess-i-can gangs
11. Rolling 40 Crips vs 38th Street mess-i-can gang not sure of the offical name

So, if O'brien is serious he got many places to start. These are just a few of the beefs, there are probably at least 20 or more all based on race. And many, many people are dying.

Basically if you got mess-icans gangs and BLACK Gangs you got beef! Except for the Hoover Criminals they get along with Hoover locos and 18th Street...go figure.
 
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