Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes ....... UPDATE Robots & impound yards are joining in now ... smh

iS TIPPING GETTING OUT OF HAND?


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I tip basically only when I'm sitting down and being served.... can't stand restaurants where the tip is automatically deducted on your bill.....I almost laugh at Dunkin Donuts when I buy a coffee and the tip jar is at the register.... like one guy in the video says.... "Am I supposed to tip you for doing your job and ringing up my items and handing them to me?".... years ago they used to have counters that you sat at and were served.... thus you got a tip..... I haven't seen one where you sat down and were served in fucking ages
Across the country, there’s a silent frustration brewing about an age-old practice that many say is getting out of hand: tipping. Some fed-up consumers are posting rants on social media complaining about tip requests at drive-thrus, while others say they’re tired of being asked to leave a gratuity for a muffin or a simple cup of coffee at their neighborhood bakery. What’s next, they wonder -- are we going to be tipping our doctors and dentists, too?




 
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Diane Gottsman, founder of The Protocol School of Texas, says being prepared for an electronic tip in a restaurant or other business is the best way to not over (or under) tip.

 
Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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-Golf manager J.W. Park, left, helps Ashley Moreno to check out at X-Golf indoor golf in Glenview, Ill., Friday, Jan. 20, 2023. Tipping fatigue, it seems, is swarming America as more businesses adopt digital payment methods that automatically prompts customers to leave a gratuity.

NEW YORK (AP) — Across the country, there’s a silent frustration brewing about an age-old practice that many say is getting out of hand: tipping.

Some fed-up consumers are posting rants on social media complaining about tip requests at drive-thrus, while others say they’re tired of being asked to leave a gratuity for a muffin or a simple cup of coffee at their neighborhood bakery. What’s next, they wonder -- are we going to be tipping our doctors and dentists, too?

As more businesses adopt digital payment methods, customers are automatically being prompted to leave a gratuity — many times as high as 30% — at places they normally wouldn’t. And some say it has become more frustrating as the price of items has skyrocketed due to inflation, which eased to 6.5% in December but still remains painfully high.

“Suddenly, these screens are at every establishment we encounter. They’re popping up online as well for online orders. And I fear that there is no end,” said etiquette expert Thomas Farley, who considers the whole thing somewhat of “an invasion.”
Unlike tip jars that shoppers can easily ignore if they don’t have spare change, experts say the digital requests can produce social pressure and are more difficult to bypass. And your generosity, or lack thereof, can be laid bare for anyone close enough to glance at the screen — including the workers themselves.
Dylan Schenker is one of them. The 38-year-old earns about $400 a month in tips, which provides a helpful supplement to his $15 hourly wage as a barista at Philadelphia café located inside a restaurant. Most of those tips come from consumers who order coffee drinks or interact with the café for other things, such as carryout orders. The gratuity helps cover his monthly rent and eases some of his burdens while he attends graduate school and juggles his job.

Schenker says it’s hard to sympathize with consumers who are able to afford pricey coffee drinks but complain about tipping. And he often feels demoralized when people don’t leave behind anything extra — especially if they’re regulars.

“Tipping is about making sure the people who are performing that service for you are getting paid what they’re owed,” said Schenker, who’s been working in the service industry for roughly 18 years.

Traditionally, consumers have taken pride in being good tippers at places like restaurants, which typically pay their workers lower than the minimum wage in expectation they’ll make up the difference in tips. But academics who study the topic say many consumers are now feeling irritated by automatic tip requests at coffee shops and other counter service eateries where tipping has not typically been expected, workers make at least the minimum wage and service is usually limited.

“People do not like unsolicited advice,” said Ismail Karabas, a marketing professor at Murray State University who studies tipping. “They don’t like to be asked for things, especially at the wrong time.”

Some of the requests can also come from odd places. Clarissa Moore, a 35-year-old who works as a supervisor at a utility company in Pennsylvania, said even her mortgage company has been asking for tips lately. Typically, she’s happy to leave a gratuity at restaurants, and sometimes at coffee shops and other fast-food places when the service is good. But, Moore said she believes consumers shouldn’t be asked to tip nearly everywhere they go — and it shouldn’t be something that’s expected of them.

“It makes you feel bad. You feel like you have to do it because they’re asking you to do it,” she said. “But then you have to think about the position that puts people in. They’re paying for something that they really don’t want to pay for, or they’re tipping when they really don’t want to tip — or can’t afford to tip — because they don’t want to feel bad.”

In the book “Emily Post’s Etiquette,” authors Lizzie Post and Daniel Post Senning advise consumers to tip on ride-shares, like Uber and Lyft, as well as food and beverages, including alcohol. But they also write that it’s up to each person to choose how much to tip at a café or a take-out food service, and that consumers shouldn’t feel embarrassed about choosing the lowest suggested tip amount, and don’t have to explain themselves if they don’t tip.

Digital payment methods have been around for a number of years, though experts say the pandemic has accelerated the trend towards more tipping. Michael Lynn, a consumer behavior professor at Cornell University, said consumers were more generous with tips during the early days of the pandemic in an effort to show support for restaurants and other businesses that were hard hit by COVID-19. Many people genuinely wanted to help out and felt sympathetic to workers who held jobs that put them more at risk of catching the virus, Lynn said.

Tips at full-service restaurants grew by 25.3% in the third quarter of 2022, while gratuities at quick or counter service restaurants went up 16.7% compared to the same time in 2021, according to Square, one of the biggest companies operating digital payment methods. Data provided by the company shows continuous growth for the same period since 2019.
As tip requests have become more common, some businesses are advertising it in their job postings to lure in more workers even though the extra money isn’t always guaranteed.

In December, Starbucks rolled out a new tipping option on credit and debit card transactions at its stores, something a group organizing the company’s hourly workers had called for. Since then, a Starbucks spokesperson said nearly half of credit and debit card transactions have included a gratuity, which - along with tips received through cash and the Starbucks app - are distributed based on the number of hours a barista worked on the days the tips were received.

Karabas, the Murray State professor, says some customers, like those who’ve worked in the service industry in the past, want to tip workers at quick service businesses and wouldn’t be irritated by the automatic requests. But for others, research shows they might be less likely to come back to a particular business if they are feeling irritated by the requests, he said.

The final tab might also impact how customers react. Karabas said in the research he did with other academics, they manipulated the payment amounts and found that when the check was high, consumers no longer felt as irritated by the tip requests. That suggests the best time for a coffee shop to ask for that 20% tip, for example, might be on four or five orders of coffee, not a small cup that costs $4.

Some consumers might continue to shrug off the tip requests regardless of the amount.

“If you work for a company, it’s that company’s job to pay you for doing work for them,” said Mike Janavey, a footwear and clothing designer who lives in New York City. “They’re not supposed to be juicing consumers that are already spending money there to pay their employees.”

Schenker, the Philadelphia barista, agrees — to a certain extent.

“The onus should absolutely be on the owners, but that doesn’t change overnight,” he said. “And this is the best thing we have right now.”





Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes | AP News
 
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I don’t tip anyone unless they go above and beyond, period.
ive been to the same hotels almost 20 times between Miami, Vegas and Hawaii. I never tip the valets. Room service already bills you for bringing up the food, so I don’t tip a dime.
I go to European countries and I love it there. There’s no pressure to tip. There isn’t even a line to tip. I’m not paying for your bills employees wages, never.
 
Well it depends,

Restaurant wise you should tip the person waiting your table if the service was good. The better the service, the better the tip.

Doordash/Grubhub/Instacart etc. You better throw at least a 20 down or your fries getting clapped, or your drink is getting "left at the store" or some of your groceries going towards the cause.
 
Well it depends,

Restaurant wise you should tip the person waiting your table if the service was good. The better the service, the better the tip.

Doordash/Grubhub/Instacart etc. You better throw at least a 20 down or your fries getting clapped, or your drink is getting "left at the store" or some of your groceries going towards the cause.

Delivery companies don't pay their drivers SHIT.

Instead they get the customers to pre-tip. If you don't your food stays at the restaurant because the trip pays less than minimum wage. Add 5 or $10 might get picked up. Add $20 and it will be there before you put down the phone.

It's not even really a tip. It's a bribe.
 
I always tip.

If there's a band or a DJ I'm putting at least $5 in their bucket. Restaurants are 15% for takeout 20% for sit down.

When cooks and waiters don't get paid right they quit. Then the restaurant has to replace them with people who will work for low pay. Usually they're not very good.

You take your girl out for a romantic meal, do you want it cooked by someone barely knows how to tie on his apron? Have it take 20 minutes to get to your table because two of the waiters didn't show up?

Or maybe you grab takeout from your favorite late night spot get home and find out the employees didn't check to make sure the sauce containers were sealed properly.

Even worse you go to the strip club and find out that the video vixen you came to see has been replaced by a white girl named jabba the gut with titties like traffic cones on flapjacks.

Folks in these professions don't care if the money comes from you or the house. They either get it or forget it.
 
It is, most places Ive been to just add gratuity to the price of the meal now. I still tip but not as much as I would. Probably $10-$12 extra or double the tax depending if Im with the lady or not.
 


 
As mentioned by others, I only really tip if I sit to eat. Fuck all the BS. When I hear servers say “we only get paid a few dollars an hour and live off tips” my immediate thought is, “not my problem, that’s on you.”

Don’t like the shitty wages, don’t take the shitty job.

If tipping isn’t expected in fast food joints (McDonalds, BK, Wendys, etc…) then why should I tip at a coffee or donut shop? Especially when the mother fucker is just pouring a regular house coffee?

FOH.
 
I don't think many have a problem tipping, it's just tipping before service is r tipping when you're simply picking up food.

If I tip before I get service and my food's wrong or fucked up, then I'm 10 times madder and wanna return to the place like

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And now we gotta be worried about the workers knowing that we didn't leave a tip while they're making our food. :rolleyes2:
 
Every week get out 20 in singles
Instead being pressured with the iPad tipping, I leave a buck or 2

It’s weird working backwards and carrying singles not at a stripclub

Whoever came up with the iPad tipping is genius cause it’s second nature/peer pressure to click without thinking
 
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Got places expecting u to tip for To Go orders and shit now.

If I aint sittin.....u ain't gettin......


Agreed. This is before the pandemic ... so 2019 or so ... went to a local place to pick up some pizzas. Getting ready to pay and had to ask the staff how to get this dumb 18 - 20% tip shit off the screen. Puts you in that uncomfortable position while you're standing there looking for "No Tip" which isn't clearly marked on that page. Felt like saying to them - "What the fuck are we doin' here?"

Comparatively - went to a Japanese restaurant this past February. Had a good experience. Food and service were on point. Recommended the place to a few friends and family. Gladly gave them a solid tip - as the prices were already fair to begin with, and it was a sit-down experience.
 
Agreed. This is before the pandemic ... so 2019 or so ... went to a local place to pick up some pizzas. Getting ready to pay and had to ask the staff how to get this dumb 18 - 20% tip shit off the screen. Puts you in that uncomfortable position while you're standing there looking for "No Tip" which isn't clearly marked on that page. Felt like saying to them - "What the fuck are we doin' here?"

Comparatively - went to a Japanese restaurant this past February. Had a good experience. Food and service were on point. Recommended the place to a few friends and family. Gladly gave them a solid tip - as the prices were already fair to begin with, and it was a sit-down experience.
Yeah and I hate when they ask u do u want to round up when your meal doesn't come out to an even dollar.
I'm like round up for wha? Hell nah bih.
 
Yeah and I hate when they ask u do u want to round up when your meal doesn't come out to an even dollar.
I'm like round up for wha? Hell nah bih.


Exactly. I saw a comment online a few weeks ago (on a semi-related note). Someone said - "With all these grocery stores asking you if you want to DONATE to this cause, or that cause ... at checkout. I sometimes feel like saying - "Why don't you ask your corporate fat cats to donate? Didn't they make billions of dollars in profit last year? Why you always asking us to donate ... inflation and shit, and all? We're already getting fucked on your grocery prices."
 
White americans really allowed this country to go to shit yet they want to blame everyone but themselves
how do you allow billion dollar corps to pay them shitty wages and then demand the customer cover their wages?
and whats even worse is that the server you tip has to split that shit with her other coworkers
thats fucking insanity
capitalism is the greatest threat to mankind and these cacs praise and make excuses for their slave masters.
 
I hate this new shit they have, where they check you out at the table...and your waiter is looking you dead in the eyes as you consider the tip amount. You mostly see it in the better restaurants. Not a fan.
 
Y'all crazy!

If you don't provide a service, then I'm not going to tip. Period, end of story.

It is not my responsibility to subside your paycheck by forced tipping without having a service provided. You need to ask your company why they are shortchanging you.

Fucking corporations, constantly finding a way to pass the societal buck onto the working class. Shit is ridiculous.
 
Exactly. I saw a comment online a few weeks ago (on a semi-related note). Someone said - "With all these grocery stores asking you if you want to DONATE to this cause, or that cause ... at checkout. I sometimes feel like saying - "Why don't you ask your corporate fat cats to donate? Didn't they make billions of dollars in profit last year? Why you always asking us to donate ... inflation and shit, and all? We're already getting fucked on your grocery prices."
The real kick is they donate on your behalf and then write the shit off on THEY taxes
 
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