Is the church to blame for homophobia in black America?

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For years now, black churches have carried a reputation of being misogynistic and homophobic institutions. However, one young theologian believes the image of "The Black Church" so commonly upheld in society is, and has been, a long-held misnomer.

Aquarius Gilmer, a seminary trained social entrepreneur in the Atlanta area, believes we have a lot of misunderstanding regarding the history of the black church and homophobia/homosexuality.

"Homophobia was introduced as a wedge issue to divide the black community during the Civil Rights movement," he said. "The idea was if white, conservative politicians could get blacks to focus more on personal piety and social justice, then they could distract us. And it has worked ever since."

Gilmer argues there have always been gay folk in the black community. And many of them have been celebrated within the community. A perfect example of this reality is the Harlem Renaissance and the influence of greats like Langston Hughes, James Baldwin, and others.

"James Baldwin did more for straight white women than black gay men. Audre Lorde, [the poet], was understood to be a race ally first," he said. "Hoover and others found black preachers -- some ignorant and some well educated -- and used them to change the nature of the movement. Personal piety and homophobia became the focus of their divisive rhetoric."

If they could make a successful attack on personal piety, one's holiness, then they could create questions regarding how close individuals really were to God.

From Gilmer's perspective, "Black folk are not more homophobic than white folk." He said work needs to be done to correct history. If the correct historical account is not told, then "we will think that black folk have always been homophobic."

Kevin E. Taylor, Pastor, Unity Fellowship Church of New Brunswick, said President Barack Obama's announcement of his support for same-sex marriage has brought the conversation back into the church -- particularly black churches.

"Now people have to engage the topic because the president, Jay Z, Chuck D, Beanie Man, Will Smith has spoken on it," he said. "[They] have made this conversation barbershop conversation now. And if this conversation is going on outside of the church, it is going to have to take place on the inside of the church as well before people start walking out."

There is work to be done, both Taylor and Gilmer believe.

"We got to do some cleaning up," Taylor said. "Uneducated people are being uninformed and as a result [are] feeling unworthy."

Someone can blast something on Facebook and change people's understanding and perspective in an instant, Taylor said. "People are getting more information from social media on a daily basis than they have gotten in a lifetime from attending church."

Referring back to a previous analogy, Taylor said "You can walk into a barbershop where everyone is getting a fade and tell them 'the Bible says you should not cut the side of your hair.' All of a sudden people are going, 'Wait, I did not know that.'"
Gilmer said there is a misappropriation of power and the text.

"Pastor's word is considered infallible and leading people to hate their own children," he said adding that when slaves, who could not read, listened to their masters read to them the story of Moses, they understood their situation as wrong according to the text.

"That was sheer brilliance. These folk had no formal education at all, yet they understood. The same book was used to keep people oppressed for years," he said, "And is still being used today to engage in an illegal comeback."

Taylor believes a revolution is occurring, and will be the result of the church matriarchs.
"A mother or two who is going to have a conversation with a pastor," he said. "It is no coincidence this conversation jumped off on Mother's Day. A mother will approach her Pastor and say, 'That's enough of this. I raised a good son and he does good work.'"

He said that is how many of these conversations have come up in the church. The matriarchs of the church have rallied together.

For Gilmer, the change will occur once all churches -- not just black churches -- and society adopt a love ethic.

"That is how we are going to attack it. I have always been taught love is at the core - to love your neighbor and God," he said. "Quite frankly our community is on the edges and preservation is a problem. We have bigger fish to fry and are easily distracted."

He said people are not going to leave black churches in mass droves. Those that have been there will be there and those generations that have not been to church -- and do not have the same affection towards the church as many of us -- are not going to start going all of a sudden now.

"They are not going to leave. Not from what the president said. But then again, let's be clear that those who came out against President Obama said nothing about Bishop Eddie Long. They told us to pray for Long but told the president that he owes them an apology," he said. "Until we adopt a love ethic we will never overcome our own issues. We all must love beyond our own bigotry and our own issues."

Follow Mashaun D. Simon on Twitter at @memadosi
 
Faggotry is no no in the bible. Any and every church following the bible is responsible for teaching faggotry is wrong.
 
Faggotry is no no in the bible. Any and every church following the bible is responsible for teaching faggotry is wrong.

Exactly. But like with most things in the bible, people will cherrypick what to believe as society changes. Technically, any xtian president should be against gay marriage.
 
It's amazing how people follow the bible like they are hypnotized and they know it was written by men and translated to suit the purposes of man.

God didn't write a word.Jesus didn't write a syllable.


At best it's hearsay
 
:dunno:More like is the church to blame for homosexuality in America?




I'm just sayin.
 
Faggotry is no no in the bible. Any and every church following the bible is responsible for teaching faggotry is wrong.

Exactly. But like with most things in the bible, people will cherrypick what to believe as society changes. Technically, any xtian president should be against gay marriage.
True. As well, the author's claim that Black Christians (apart from Eddie Long's flock) condemned President Obama while tarrying for Eddie Long (particularly after all the facts came out surrounding the allegations and subsequent settlement) is ridiculous and baseless.

Which ones? How many? Was there a poll?
 
The black church is a bunch of idiots who believe in an idiot religion. is it to BLAME? No. Does it help perpetuate the nonsense? yes. Should it be wiped out? Most definitely.
 
Homosexuals are 99% of all homophobes regardless of race, culture, creed, national origin as well as social, political or organization affiliation.

Homosexuals are the predominate enemies of homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with outing other homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with bullying and bashing homosexuals.

Homosexuals are full of hatred and envy toward heterosexuals.

Homosexuals think heterosexuals are stupid and will accept their propaganda as the new gospel.
 
Homosexuals are 99% of all homophobes regardless of race, culture, creed, national origin as well as social, political or organization affiliation.

Homosexuals are the predominate enemies of homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with outing other homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with bullying and bashing homosexuals.

Homosexuals are full of hatred and envy toward heterosexuals.

Homosexuals think heterosexuals are stupid and will accept their propaganda as the new gospel.

faggots are the blame for homophobia.

yep.

/thread.
 
Homosexuals are 99% of all homophobes regardless of race, culture, creed, national origin as well as social, political or organization affiliation.

Homosexuals are the predominate enemies of homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with outing other homosexuals.

Homosexuals are obsessed with bullying and bashing homosexuals.

Homosexuals are full of hatred and envy toward heterosexuals.

Homosexuals think heterosexuals are stupid and will accept their propaganda as the new gospel.
Dam ain't that the truth. Closet faggots are to blame for homophobia. A straight man doesn't dick monitor.
 
Atheist take another L. You know what I love....how atheist never are brave enough to announce what they believe are man's orgins.

They like to duck and hide. And critisize others beliefs.

But don't want to announe their illogic and leave their illogic up to scrutinity.

Gotta love these atheist. they claim to be so anti christian but they affiliate themselves with christians and admire tons of famous christians. :lol:

Another l for atheist.
 
Atheist take another L. You know what I love....how atheist never are brave enough to announce what they believe are man's orgins.

They like to duck and hide. And critisize others beliefs.

But don't want to announe their illogic and leave their illogic up to scrutinity.

Gotta love these atheist. they claim to be so anti christian but they affiliate themselves with christians and admire tons of famous christians. :lol:

Another l for atheist.

What the fuck does being an atheist have to do with anything...:confused::confused::confused:


I have no problem with gays being married but my biggest problem with the gay community is when someone calls them out on their shit like forcing their propaganda down society's throat,they want to call it being homophobic and yet they have the audacity and turn around call our people the N-word...:smh::smh::smh:

And then they want to put their struggle on the same pedestal as the Civil Rights Movement...really..last time I check they wasnt getting hunged from a tree,last time check the police wasnt beating them to death,last time I check they there are no signs saying HETEROSEXUALS ONLY in restaurants and etc...It just amazes me how people agree with that nonsense....:smh::smh::smh:
 
Atheist take another L. You know what I love....how atheist never are brave enough to announce what they believe are man's orgins.

They like to duck and hide. And critisize others beliefs.

But don't want to announe their illogic and leave their illogic up to scrutinity.

Gotta love these atheist. they claim to be so anti christian but they affiliate themselves with christians and admire tons of famous christians. :lol:

Another l for atheist.

please don't derail this thread with your brand of non-sense today...save it for the next thread that you'll make where you'll repeat the same point for the 1,059,096th time.:cool:
 
Atheist take another L. You know what I love....how atheist never are brave enough to announce what they believe are man's orgins.

They like to duck and hide. And critisize others beliefs.

But don't want to announe their illogic and leave their illogic up to scrutinity.

Gotta love these atheist. they claim to be so anti christian but they affiliate themselves with christians and admire tons of famous christians. :lol:

Another l for atheist.

How can you use the word logic when defending religious beliefs ?

Religion but it's definition is illogical.

And why would you assume that one if atheist because one questions your total obidience to a book written by men and translated by men.
 
How can the church be for anything but peace and prosperity? Balls, you're an instigator. Pastor Worly and I will not stand for your incendiary thread.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/nati...and-lesbians-behind-electrified-fences/52633/

please don't derail this thread with your brand of non-sense today...save it for the next thread that you'll make where you'll repeat the same point for the 1,059,096th time.:cool:

:lol:
:dance:

I couldn't resist.. you know this thread won't go nowhere if everyone is all gum drops and jelly beans and everything.
 
PTSS is real. There was once a time when the Bible was the only thing we were allowed to know and not knowing it could be the difference between life and death.


We still have generations to go before we'll be healed as a people, and that's IF we begin to truly address the issues starting now.
 
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