Is Soros Betting on U.S. Financial Collapse?

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The Blaze / Canadian Free Press
November 9, 2010

As the Federal Reserve undertakes its second round of quantitative easing, buying up $600 billion of government debt, the line of detractors is getting longer. New to the queue is Zubi Diamond, a U.S. financial author who says that the plan plays right into the hands of George Soros.

“This is the type of stuff we accused the communist and socialist governments of doing—interfering in free markets through currency manipulation,” declared Zubi Diamond, author of The Wizards of Wall Street, to the Canadian Free Press. “What the Fed is doing is not good for free market capitalism and it is not good for America.”

This round of quantitative easing, he predicted, “will devalue the dollar and lead to higher commodity prices, asset and price inflation. It may even lead to the end of the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency.”

That, he added, plays right into the hands of billionaire, liberal financier George Soros:

“What is most troubling to me about this,” Diamond added, “is that the Fed’s QE2 is in alignment with George Soros’s agenda to destroy global capitalism.” The decline of the dollar “is what George Soros wants and what he has proposed in the past,” he noted.

Soros, the billionaire hedge fund operator who finances various leftist and Marxist groups, including Media Matters, has made his fortune by betting on the collapse of national economies and currencies. He was convicted of insider trading in France.

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"You really need to bring China into the creation of a New World Order, a financial World Order" - George Soros @ 8 seconds in. Soros said it, not me!

"An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable" - George Soros @ 3:30 in.

"the system we have now has broken down, we need to create a new one; the decline in the value of the dollar is necessary, and the US will remain a drag" - George Soros @ 9:10

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Seems to me the capitalist are betting on U.S. Financial Collapse.

1) Eliminate revenue by cutting taxes on the wealthy

2) Claiming they can't compete and installing capitalist puppet owned politicians who do their bidding in the US government.

3) Doing un-American policies by moving middle class jobs off shore, collaborating economically with communists and claiming their allegiance to China by building up the Chinese's economy.

4) Stealing American tax payers money by going after social security insurance.

As I said, capitalism will eat itself up in the end!
 
Only Lamarr and Gunner would post a right wing hit job.

source: Media Matters

Caught red-handed: Beck doctors video and lies about Soros quote

In the third part of his special attacking George Soros, Glenn Beck repeatedly highlighted a Soros quote and claimed it demonstrates that Soros wants "global citizens... voting on who represents us." But Beck deceptively cropped Soros' quote, completely reversing its meaning.


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Beck doctors Soros quote to suggest Soros called for giving "the world" "a vote in Congress"


Beck claim: Soros quote shows that he wants "global citizens" voting on "who represents us." On the November 11 edition of his Fox News program, Beck repeatedly aired and referenced comments Soros made during a September 16, 2003, talk at the Open Society Institute. Beck claimed that the clip shows that "it's a problem" for Soros that "people in China and France don't get to vote"; that Soros wants "the world" to have "a vote in Congress"; and that Soros wants "Global citizens who are voting on who represents us. And what we do":
BECK: I want you to know and remember this: In the last three episodes, I'm not making claims, I'm not asking questions, I'm not telling you statements of fact. What I'm telling you is, watch George Soros in his own words. Where is the country headed? George Soros.

[start video clip]
QUESTIONER: The question is what whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence in the United States instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans.

SOROS: I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup.
[end video clip]

BECK: It's a problem for him that people in China or France don't get to vote, find out who sits in Congress. Is it for you? You need to make a choice. Mr. Soros has made his choice. I have made mine. Tonight you decide.

[...]

BECK: So which part of the London School of Economics does Soros favor? The Hayek side or the Fabian side? Which one?

This is where he learned about an open society. The Open Society Institute, which is now his charitable arm. Sounds harmless on the outside. But I mean -- really, I mean, who doesn't want to be open? But when you listen to him at the top of the hour and the beginning of the program, we played that. Notice that logo behind him? That was his Open Society Institute. Can your institute bring in more foreign influence here in America?

What is an open society, really? Well, you saw it a moment ago. The world has a vote in Congress. But you also saw it in his father. Soros. A world free of nationalities. It is a global replacement for our republic, for all the work our founders did, that's old news. We must progress past it. We must have a new world order. It's a replacement for the republic, for all the work our founders did, that's old news. We must progress past it. We must have a new world order. It's a replacement for the republic.

[...]

BECK: Does this sound good to you? Does it sound good to you? How much has the price of sugar gone up? How much has your gasoline gone up? Why? Why? Is there a shortage with sugar? No. Your dollar is being devalued. It is going down in an orderly way. Prices go up. Is that what you want? Let me play the clip that we just played one more time at the top of the hour. Listen to this.
[start video clip]
QUESTIONER: The question is whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence in to the United States, instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans.
SOROS: I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup.
[start video clip]

BECK: OK. Worthless dollar. Global citizens who are voting on who represents us. And what we do. That's what George Soros and an open society looks like. When he is done with America, that's what you will have. Now, how does he achieve it? How does he achieve it?
Well, we showed you these five steps last night. He is collapsing the economies. He's quite good at it, collapsing the economies. We showed you how he's doing it here in America. He's doing it over and over and over again. All of them. He's doing it, in his words, subversively. Subversively.
Beck deceptively edited clip to reverse meaning of Soros' statement

Soros opposed having foreign citizens vote for Congress, instead calling for "American leadership" to "take into account and respect the interests of others." During the session, Soros was asked whether he supported establishing "a third branch of Congress for foreign governments only." Beck aired the portion of Soros' answer in which Soros called it 'a very important flaw in the current world order" that "only Americans have a vote in Congress," even though the United States "basically determines policy for the world."

But Beck edited out Soros' subsequent statement that "I don't think you can correct it by giving the Chinese government a vote in Congress... this is where American leadership is needed -- to take into account and respect the interests of others as well in order to retain the dominant position we currently enjoy."

From the question and answer portion of Soros' talk at the Open Society Institute (emphasis added to indicate Soros comments Beck cropped out):
QUESTIONER: My name is Lee Retiener, and sir, it seems to me four options have arisen today, only one of which is new and hasn't been spoken of yet. Your option of creating a new community of democracies, which in a sense is pronouncing the U.N. a little bit dead [...] The second is improving the United Nations. Its failures -- I don't mean in the Security Council but over the past 20 years and through the dominance of the Group of 77 and the new world economic order -- gave Wolfowitz the right, the power, and the philosophical justification, and those like him, to do what he has now done. That's part of the answer to the question that was asked earlier. So improving the United Nations, which is a long-sought-after goal, is one to which great effort would have to be given. But there's another way, which would be entirely unconstitutional, but I advance it not for the sake of humor, but only to help thought -- which is to create a third branch of Congress for foreign governments only. Proportionate representation in the United States Congress so that the Chinese can legitimately give money, so that Israel can give us money --

[unintelligible]

The question is whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence into the United States instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans, which hasn't worked and is not about to start working.

SOROS: Look, I think -- I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup. I don't think you can correct it by giving the Chinese government a vote in Congress. But it is a flaw, and I think this is where American leadership is needed, to take into account and respect the interests of others as well, in order to retain the dominant position we currently enjoy.
 
Only Lamarr and Gunner would post a right wing hit job.

source: Media Matters

that's Soros's Media Matters, right? :smh:

Where, in this thread, did I say anything about Beck?

Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!
 
that's Soros's Media Matters, right? :smh:

Where, in this thread, did I say anything about Beck?

Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!


Where, in this thread, did I say anything about Beck?

The Blaze / Canadian Free Press

The Blaze is a conservative news and opinion website launched on August 31, 2010, by American media personality and Fox News host Glenn Beck...


Soros did recently give money to Media Matters as a response to Rupert Murdock giving money as the so called neutral media to the Republican Party.
 
Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!
 
Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!

I have no idea what he's betting on. He is a capitalist so like all capitalists, money trumps all. I do know that since he became a benefactor to Media Matters, which continually calls Beck and Rupert Murdock out on their ways, they think he is a threat to them. Especially since he can play in their ballpark with his billions.
 
Soros Is Found Guilty in France On Charges of Insider Trading

You're better than that; This man is a f*ckin crook, not a capitalist. Instead of blaming a system, blame the individuals who do nothing to enforce the laws of the system.

We've had about 2 years since the banks got their bailout, courtesy of Bush/Obama, You should be able to recognize facism by now

capitalist

a person who has capital especially invested in business; broadly : a person of wealth : plutocrat
 
capitalist

a person who has capital especially invested in business; broadly : a person of wealth : plutocrat

when courts fail to enforce contracts between buyers & sellers, you have facism/serfdom (whatever you want to call it, except capitalism). Look no further than the foreclosure mess to prove my point

I'll be on later, I gotta go do my runnin (the LV Marathon is comin up):yes:
 
when courts fail to enforce contracts between buyers & sellers, you have facism/serfdom (whatever you want to call it, except capitalism). Look no further than the foreclosure mess to prove my point


Your definition verses the world's! I'll go with Webster's.
 
Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!
 
Based on what we've seen, Is he betting on a financial collapse? yes/no?

Show me something that leads you to believe he is not betting on a collapse!


Lamarr, I could care less. I'm not in his tax bracket, I have to pay my taxes. Unlike those you worship. If your corporatist idols think he is, then believe it.

I'm glad he gave money to Media Matters. I'm sure you are glad the Koch brothers gave money to defeat health care.

Isn't America wonderful!
 
The Blaze / Canadian Free Press
November 9, 2010

As the Federal Reserve undertakes its second round of quantitative easing, buying up $600 billion of government debt, the line of detractors is getting longer. New to the queue is Zubi Diamond, a U.S. financial author who says that the plan plays right into the hands of George Soros.

“This is the type of stuff we accused the communist and socialist governments of doing—interfering in free markets through currency manipulation,” declared Zubi Diamond, author of The Wizards of Wall Street, to the Canadian Free Press. “What the Fed is doing is not good for free market capitalism and it is not good for America.”

This round of quantitative easing, he predicted, “will devalue the dollar and lead to higher commodity prices, asset and price inflation. It may even lead to the end of the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency.”

That, he added, plays right into the hands of billionaire, liberal financier George Soros:



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take this crap to the low information idiots that you guys regularly steal votes from!
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I want to believe he is not betting on a collapse but he is a pragmatic businessman. He would bet America is in decline and act accordingly. That means preparing for the day when China is the only superpower. Not changing the subject but it is amazing that the people responsible for this are not in prison. We could see the fall of America and no one going to jail for it....un fucking believable.
 
Did I just read that cutting taxes for the rich will stop tax revenue?

Oh fuck, I'm reading one of thoughtone's posts again...

I would ask T/O a question, but he would probably blame bush, and call me a wingnut....So, I'll let him wallow in his own self-pity...
 
Did I just read that cutting taxes for the rich will stop tax revenue?

Oh fuck, I'm reading one of thoughtone's posts again...

I would ask T/O a question, but he would probably blame bush, and call me a wingnut....So, I'll let him wallow in his own self-pity...

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Do they own a body scanner company?

start a new thread, I got a little info about these facists

Source

With all the commotion over the invasiveness of the naked body scanners used by the United States Transportation Security Administration (TSA), one question that has been ignored is who is profiting from TSA’s use of the body scanners? Mark Hemingway and Tim Carney at The Examiner discovered the shameful answer: George Soros, Michael Chertoff, and a number of lobbyists.

Both Soros and Chertoff are profiting from the naked body scanners by way of the company Rapiscan, whose contract is worth $173 million. Lobbyists for this company include Susan Carr, a former senior legislative aide to Rep. David Price (D-N.C.) who is coincidentally chairman of the Homeland Security Subcommittee.

When the govt colludes with Big Business to stifle "the people", we have facism! And Holder & Napolitano are cool wit it

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Lamarr, all of your anti Soros news clips are from the same source, Glenn Beck. I know you have an affection for Rupert Murdoch (refugee from Haniity's Board, quoting Glenn Beck), but site some other sources for credibility. If not than this just another right wing hit job.

Trying to discredit one of the most high profile liberal cause funders, leads me to ask the question: who funds you?

Does Glenn Beck have stock in Rapid Scan?
 
Soros Is Found Guilty in France On Charges of Insider Trading

You're better than that; This man is a f*ckin crook, not a capitalist. Instead of blaming a system, blame the individuals who do nothing to enforce the laws of the system.

We've had about 2 years since the banks got their bailout, courtesy of Bush/Obama, You should be able to recognize facism by now


source: New York Times

PARIS — Europe’s highest human rights court said Wednesday that it would accept a complaint by the international financier George Soros that his rights were impinged on by French courts in convicting him in an insider trading case dating back more than two decades.

Soros to Get a Day in Court Over Insider Trading Case</NYT_HEADLINE>

<NYT_TEXT><NYT_CORRECTION_TOP></NYT_CORRECTION_TOP>PARIS — Europe’s highest human rights court said Wednesday that it would accept a complaint by the international financier George Soros that his rights were impinged on by French courts in convicting him in an insider trading case dating back more than two decades.


Mr. Soros’s legal team says it is now confident that the European Court of Human Rights, based in Strasbourg, will rule on the complaint in coming weeks and, based on precedent, will clear the way for the exoneration of Mr. Soros in France.


The case involves the purchase of shares in the French bank Société Générale in 1988, after the bank had been privatized. Mr. Soros was later convicted of buying the shares based on insider information. The European court judged a complaint from Mr. Soros as “receivable,” under Article 7 of the European convention on human rights, which states that no person may be punished for an act that was not a criminal offence at the time that it was committed.

If the court rules in favor of Mr. Soros, he will ask France’s top court, the Cour de Cassation, to set aside the conviction based on the decision in Strasbourg, according to Ron Soffer, a lawyer in Paris for Mr. Soros.

“We expect that the European court will ultimately rule in the same spirit and that the conviction can then be quashed,” Mr. Soffer said. “As the court pointed out, the stock exchange regulator concluded in 1989 that the statute was not clear enough and it could not conclude that the trade in question was unlawful. This should have ended the matter.”

Éric Bosc, a spokesman for the French Foreign Ministry, representing France as plaintiff, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Paris privatized Société Générale in June 1987, selling shares at 407 French francs, then $63, a share. A year later, after a stock market crash, the shares had fallen to 260 francs.

In September 1988, the Parisian financier Georges Pébereau sounded out a number investors, including an adviser to Mr. Soros, about joining him in acquiring shares in the bank. Mr. Soros has said that he never spoke directly to Mr. Pébereau about the investment and did not pursue discussions, judging that Mr. Pébereau was not clear in his objectives.

That same month, Mr. Soros’s Quantum Fund spent $50 million to buy 160,000 shares of Société Générale as well as shares in three other companies — Suez, Paribas and the Compagnie Générale d’Électricité — which the French government had privatized and whose stock had also tumbled. His defense team contended that this was part of a broader, documented strategy by Mr. Soros of buying shares in recently privatized French companies.

In October 1988, Mr Pébereau’s Marceau Investissement built a 9 percent stake in Société Générale and tried to get the bank to agree to a takeover. The bank refused, and the effort was dropped when Société Générale shares surged in December. Mr. Soros has said that he sold all of his shares by November 1988, after he decided that the companies were becoming too politicized.

In 1989, France’s stock market watchdog, then known as the Commission des Opérations de Bourse, told prosecutors that it was not able to conclude that Mr. Soros had committed any offense, as insider trading laws were then too imprecise for a conviction. They have been clarified by successive rule changes.

Still, legal proceedings continued and Mr. Soros maintained his innocence.

In 2005, the Paris appeals court upheld an initial ruling from 2002 that Mr. Soros had broken insider trading laws by purchasing shares of Société Générale knowing that a group of investors was buying shares in the bank. Because of the years it took to bring the case, prosecutors only sought the minimum fine and did not seek restrictions on Mr. Soros's activities in France. The appeals court also confirmed an earlier order that Mr. Soros should pay back €2.2 million, or $2.9 million at current exchange rates, in gains. The fine was later reduced. In 2006, the Cour de Cassation upheld the conviction but quashed the fine, saying the courts had not distinguished between shares bought in Paris and in London, which fell outside their jurisdiction.

Having exhausted his legal avenues in France, Mr. Soros appealed to the European court, arguing that he did not break the rules — having acted independently — that the law was vague and that prosecutors took too long to bring him to trial.

His lawyers say that the French government’s response shows a lack of legal rigor and that the legislation in question did not comply with European Union directives on insider trading and show that the evidence was tainted.

The Paris verdict is the only legal stain on Mr. Soros’s decades in the investment business, and he has been eager to have the ruling overturned. Over the past decade, he has ceased being actively involved in investing and he now focuses on philanthropic activities.

The human rights court was established in 1959. It does not rule on the verdicts of the cases before it, but it establishes whether the civil and political rights of individual or state applications, as set out in the European Convention on Human Rights, have been violated.

The court did not accept Mr. Soros’s argument that the case should be heard under Article 6 — the right to a fair and speedy trial — or Article 14, which prohibits discrimination.
 
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