Is higher education less valuable online?

same here. I think the only problems for the most part would be if your school has a really bad rep, or in some cases, schools that have been shut down due to investigations, and losing their accreds.


I went to SCSU before dropping out to join the Army. I finished undergrad online and current pursuing a Master's online as well.

I could be in a bubble, but every prospective employer I have encountered only needed that I had the degree and experience at planning, organizing and leading or effecting change in organizations. They were not concerned that I finished online. I hope that remains the case as I finish up the retirement process.
 
Bad thing or not would depend on what school you're talking about and how much you put into it. I went to 4 schools, community college, public brick and morter university, private university and state run distance learning university.
Quality of education I would say was decent at all of them, but I got more out of school as I got older (I was on the 16 year part time plan with some long breaks in the middle). I finished my BS right before I turned 36, and honestly, the classes I took in my 30's... I got way more out of than I got out of the classes I took in my teens thru mid twenties. at 33, 34 I was such a serious student... when I was 20 I just wanted to pass and get my associates. An adjunct programming instructor at community college who works full time at a nearby research company may be a wayyyyy better person to learn from than an 60-something year old professor at a private university who hasn't worked in the private sector since 1985.

Because it is still a bad thing. The quality of education is obviously lower.
 
That's the one part of online learning that I worry about... testing. For my online classes, the school I was in had agreements with schools and libraries around the country and because of active military students, around the world... and our tests all had to be proctored. The student had to have tests sent out to those facilities so they could take the tests in proctored environments.


They found the passing rate abnormally high this past semester. Come to find out the students used Chegg to get answers. So they working on new ways to test for next semester. They caught some of the students because they were dumb enough to use their school email address when registering
 
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The last person on earth who should be talking shit in a thread about higher education is the man who spent nearly a decade masquerading on a porn board with boasts of degrees he never earned.

The University of Phoenix is open 24/7, go get a real degree.
I make 20 times the money you make bitchboy. This is a porn forum faggit who I really am means absolutely nothing . I’ll say I’m an astronaut next and I test the powers of semen on your sisters face in space you bitch
 
I hate teaching online. I miss the electricity and back and forth that the physical classroom brings.

I can teach effectively online, but I'm nowhere near as good and not having anywhere near as much fun as in the physical classroom. It's also much more difficult to safeguard against academic dishonesty when a course is fully online.
They found the passing rate abnormally high this past semester. Come to find out the students used Chegg to get answers. So they working on new ways to test for next semester. They caught some of the students because they were dumb enough to use their school email address when registering

Very legitimate critique. You can't really have a closed book test.
 
Both. Does this really need to be stated?
Well, you would be absolutely incorrect. At many state schools, classes have hundreds of students in an auditorium. There is no "one on one" instruction and attendance is not mandatory. Many professors teach by reading slides. That's not teaching.

For this argument, let's make the playing field equal and limit classes to 30 students.

First, most community College professors also teach at the neighboring university. Why, because most professors do not get paid much. So, the same teacher is teaching the same course. Brother I assure you that a derivative is the same at a community College, state college, or Ivy League college.

Admittedly, I love teaching in person and getting the immediate feedback and feeling the energy in small class settings. However, with Microsoft Teams and Zoom, I am looking foward to replicating this energy.

Lastly, just a few months ago, pre COVID-19, businesses all of the world thought that employees needed to be in the office to be productive and to have effective meetings. Now??? Most businesses will be 50/ 50 home and office.

Times change. Technology has enabled this. People who push against this are akin to people hanging on to CDs instead of migrating to mp3s and streaming services.

Stop wiping off your CDs brother.
 
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They found the passing rate abnormally high this past semester. Come to find out the students used Chegg to get answers. So they working on new ways to test for next semester. They caught some of the students because they were dumb enough to use their school email address when registering

We had a situation where a student uploaded the professor's final exam to Chegg. The Gmail address didn't identify the student, so they caught him by the IP address and MAC address of his device.
 
They found the passing rate abnormally high this past semester. Come to find out the students used Chegg to get answers. So they working on new ways to test for next semester. They caught some of the students because they were dumb enough to use their school email address when registering
I hate teaching online. I miss the electricity and back and forth that the physical classroom brings.

I can teach effectively online, but I'm nowhere near as good and not having anywhere near as much fun as in the physical classroom. It's also much more difficult to safeguard against academic dishonesty when a course is fully online.
What my university has done, which is inline with supporting studies, is decrease the time allotted to take the exam. Also, the newer test proctoring software mitigates cheating. How? By using the students camera on his or her laptop or computer. You have to do a facial scan before beginning and the software records the student during the entire exam. This shit is scary incredible.
 
What my university has done, which is inline with supporting studies, is decrease the time allotted to take the exam. Also, the newer test proctoring software mitigates cheating. How? By using the students camera on his or her laptop or computer. You have to do a facial scan before beginning and the software records the student during the entire exam. This shit is scary incredible.

I got a certification where this was the exact procedure. First I had to hold my ID up to my laptop camera, and then I had to do a 360 of the room I was in with the camera. Then I guess he monitored me the whole time and I took the test.
 
I got a certification where this was the exact procedure. First I had to hold my ID up to my laptop camera, and then I had to do a 360 of the room I was in with the camera. Then I guess he monitored me the whole time and I took the test.
Exactly, the software sends notifications to the professors if there is any sign of discrepancies.
 
Well, you would be absolutely incorrect. At many state schools, classes have hundreds of students in an auditorium. There is no "one on one" instruction and attendance is not mandatory. Many professors teach by reading slides. That's not teaching.

For this argument, let's make the playing field equal and limit classes to 30 students.

First, most community College professors also teach at the neighboring university. Why, because most professors do not get paid much. So, the same teacher is teaching the same course. Brother I assure you that a derivative is the same at a community College, state college, or Ivy League college.

Admittedly, I love teaching in person and getting the immediate feedback and feeling the energy in small class settings. However, with Microsoft Teams and Zoom, I am looking foward to replicating this energy.

Lastly, just a few months ago, pre COVID-19, businesses all of the world thought that employees needed to be in the office to be productive and to have effective meetings. Now??? Most businesses will be 50/ 50 home and office.

Times change. Technology has enabled this. People who push against this are akin to people hanging on to CDs instead of migrating to mp3s and streaming services.

Stop wiping off your CDs brother.
The quality of education is better at a real University vs a community college because the quality of the students and professors is better. If you're a student, your peers are smarter and work harder. Professors at Universities are smarter, work harder, and they must research and publish several times a year. The funds they get for research at an average University are substantially larger than at the best community college in the country, if they get any funding at all.

Good professors at decent Universities (even state Universities) get paid well over six figures. Many have base salaries of over a million. Trust me, they don't have time to teach at a community college. This is something that someone who went to an elite institution should know. I don't want to expose the ducktales you've been telling here for the past year but come on man.

And while I agree that teaching online and working from home are a necessity right now because of COVID-19, they're not the best way to go about them. Interacting in person will always provide a better experience. This information can be researched on Google.

You are arguing that a Ford Tempo is just as good as a Lamborghini because both of them go from A to B. This is ridiculous.
 
The quality of education is better at a real University vs a community college because the quality of the students and professors is better. If you're a student, your peers are smarter and work harder. Professors at Universities are smarter, work harder, and they must research and publish several times a year. The funds they get for research at an average University are substantially larger than at the best community college in the country, if they get any funding at all.

Good professors at decent Universities (even state Universities) get paid well over six figures. Many have base salaries of over a million. Trust me, they don't have time to teach at a community college. This is something that someone who went to an elite institution should know. I don't want to expose the ducktales you've been telling here for the past year but come on man.

And while I agree that teaching online and working from home are a necessity right now because of COVID-19, they're not the best way to go about them. Interacting in person will always provide a better experience. This information can be researched on Google.

You are arguing that a Ford Tempo is just as good as a Lamborghini because both of them go from A to B. This is ridiculous.

I think you are dismissing the idea of adult education and the benefit employers gain by having older people in their organizations go back to school and get degrees.

I see a lot of bias and not much application in your comments, so my questions would be whether or not Google was your only source and what it is you do for a living. People have them employers pay for them to complete online degrees all the time.

You telling me an online degree from Maryland is difference from a brick and mortar degree from Maryland under the quote have here from you?
 
I think you are dismissing the idea of adult education and the benefit employers gain by having older people in their organizations go back to school and get degrees.

I see a lot of bias and not much application in your comments, so my questions would be whether or not Google was your only source and what it is you do for a living. People have them employers pay for them to complete online degrees all the time.

You telling me an online degree from Maryland is difference from a brick and mortar degree from Maryland under the quote have here from you?
Any education is better than no education. Obviously. Please read again everything you just quoted from me. It looks as if you replied without reading it. Or you didn't get it.
 
The quality of education is better at a real University vs a community college because the quality of the students and professors is better. If you're a student, your peers are smarter and work harder. Professors at Universities are smarter, work harder, and they must research and publish several times a year. The funds they get for research at an average University are substantially larger than at the best community college in the country, if they get any funding at all.

Good professors at decent Universities (even state Universities) get paid well over six figures. Many have base salaries of over a million. Trust me, they don't have time to teach at a community college. This is something that someone who went to an elite institution should know. I don't want to expose the ducktales you've been telling here for the past year but come on man.

And while I agree that teaching online and working from home are a necessity right now because of COVID-19, they're not the best way to go about them. Interacting in person will always provide a better experience. This information can be researched on Google.

You are arguing that a Ford Tempo is just as good as a Lamborghini because both of them go from A to B. This is ridiculous.
Your sentiment if precisely the reason why many black people are not reaching their fullest potential........misinformation.

Community colleges serve as a stepping stone to other opportunities. You can get half of your 4 year degree done at a community college and only need two more years at the 4 year institution. This saves thousands of dollars. Most states offer automatic admission to 4 year state colleges and universities for all community college graduates. Why? Because data shows that community college graduates as a group have higher 4 year graduation rates than traditional students. Not to mention, many high schools have programs in which high school students can graduate with their high school diploma and their Associates Degree. Why?? Because it leads to more success.

Here is why your thinking is so dangerous. At most community colleges, you can earn your ASN which is an Associate Nursing degree and you are qualified to work as an RN. At 4 year universities, you can earn a BSN, which is a bachelor of Nursing degree. Which RN do you think gets paid more?? Neither, because thry are both RNs. Additionally, the RN with the ASN can get the hospital to pay for their BSN degree. And it is no coincidence that there are hundreds of online ASN to BSN degree programs all over the country. This is a smarter educational road map. Your thinking does not necessarily work for individuals who are career changers or those with families who need to get into the workforce sooner.

Here is a real situation that happened recently:

A young man with a degree from Carnegie Mellon was a finalist along with a candidate from Georgia State University. The Carnegie Mellon candidate received his degree via an online program. Do you think the committee cared one bit???? Nope. All they saw was Carnegie Mellon.

Smarten up people. Its 2020. You gotta keep up with the times.
 
We had a situation where a student uploaded the professor's final exam to Chegg. The Gmail address didn't identify the student, so they caught him by the IP address and MAC address of his device.
So he would've had to upload at FedexOffice or library? Sometimes online courses more work since Prof. Can have you working 7 days a week with Sat. And Sun. Deadlines. Also harder to cheat online today. I probably could take only half of my classes online and foreign language classes better in person or hybrid.
 
So he would've had to upload at FedexOffice or library? Sometimes online courses more work since Prof. Can have you working 7 days a week with Sat. And Sun. Deadlines. Also harder to cheat online today. I probably could take only half of my classes online and foreign language classes better in person or hybrid.

Unless you’re a truly skilled hacker, a good security team could catch you anywhere, even if you’re using a VPN.
 
I'm arguing in here with people with online and commun
Your sentiment if precisely the reason why many black people are not reaching their fullest potential........misinformation.

Community colleges serve as a stepping stone to other opportunities. You can get half of your 4 year degree done at a community college and only need two more years at the 4 year institution. This saves thousands of dollars. Most states offer automatic admission to 4 year state colleges and universities for all community college graduates. Why? Because data shows that community college graduates as a group have higher 4 year graduation rates than traditional students. Not to mention, many high schools have programs in which high school students can graduate with their high school diploma and their Associates Degree. Why?? Because it leads to more success.

Here is why your thinking is so dangerous. At most community colleges, you can earn your ASN which is an Associate Nursing degree and you are qualified to work as an RN. At 4 year universities, you can earn a BSN, which is a bachelor of Nursing degree. Which RN do you think gets paid more?? Neither, because thry are both RNs. Additionally, the RN with the ASN can get the hospital to pay for their BSN degree. And it is no coincidence that there are hundreds of online ASN to BSN degree programs all over the country. This is a smarter educational road map. Your thinking does not necessarily work for individuals who are career changers or those with families who need to get into the workforce sooner.

Here is a real situation that happened recently:

A young man with a degree from Carnegie Mellon was a finalist along with a candidate from Georgia State University. The Carnegie Mellon candidate received his degree via an online program. Do you think the committee cared one bit???? Nope. All they saw was Carnegie Mellon.

Smarten up people. Its 2020. You gotta keep up with the times.
I agree with everything you said here. If you can't attend a 4 year institution for whatever reason, you have other options. And that's great. No discussions there. But one method of getting your degree is still better than the other.
 
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