Is Drake going at Pusha T extra hard??

A lot of people don't like Drake because he gets away with putting out trash.
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Impossible?? Bro, he can do (or in this case don’t do) anything he wants and gets away with it because he’s a Jew in the music business.

That instantly gives him unprecedented access that regular ass street niggas could only dream of. He can be bang average and get to the top, which his ducking and dodging of the streets proves, with every text he or his ghosts write.

Grammys, Emmys, Tonys and any other worthy awards are all ran by his people..

His record label is ran by his people..

His lawyers are his people..

His accountants are his people..

His reach, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube etc are all ran by his people..

They can fast track and elevate like no other. The bigger he is, the more ALL OF THEM get paid.

Vested interests secured.

Ain’t no shot a dude fresh off the streets has a leg up like this their ENTIRE career. He’d literally have to be Hov or better and there’s only one Shawn Carter.

I'm saying the way Drake REACHED this point isn't common or easy.

I agree with you though.

Sidebar...

When did Drake clap back at Parks?
 
my counter to Joe would be Drake has ALWAYS been that and it's be historically successful

He found a pocket a lane a style whatever that seems to constant find an audience and retain them.

That is NOT something to just dismiss

yes his SUBJECT MATTER is ummm stale?

But that's fine its distinctive to him.

Joe is right though

He HAS to grow up (hip hop culture wise not necessarily for a pop audience)

Which is OUR FAULT.

we INVENTED and ACCEPTED the idea and concept of artists being old and played out. Let the young boys eat etc etc

Which was patently stupid across the board.

Thankfully there has been a shift.

But drake always borrowed waves and styles to stay relevant and was right to do so.
Am I the only person here that takes it personal when I see " Joe only has ONE song" . Never hear anyone say it personally...cause the inna nets fools got me heated as to where I wish I can reach through the screen to choke a mofo
 
Cole been on a tear and he said he's working with more outside producers, mfkr is tired of yall talking about his beats! Haha
Can't knock his hustle for saving bread by making his own beats....but bruh. Hopefully next album it's 50/50
 
JCole is better than Drake and Kendrick though. It is a fact.

Been that way.


He might be the best actual rapper

but we need to stop doing this, Kendrick has actual classic albums. That matters.

and not the pity classics that people try to give Cole and Drake. People give them classics because of who they are, not the actual music on those albums. It's their best work or their debut albums, so it's classic.

Just like boxing, well you have all these belts, but who did you actually fight? What was your body of work?
 
Your opinion is your opinion doesn’t mean you’re right . Nobody riding around bumping J Cole. Nigga is boring

I have to agree, Cole's albums have gotten better, because he's released more control

because him doing the production :smh:

He needs to just be an artist and let someone else exec produce and A&R his album and maybe he'll release a complete album or the album he's capable of. I was pleasantly surprised by his last album though, because I normally find him boring.
 
He might be the best actual rapper

but we need to stop doing this, Kendrick has actual classic albums. That matters.

and not the pity classics that people try to give Cole and Drake. People give them classics because of who they are, not the actual music on those albums. It's their best work or their debut albums, so it's classic.

Just like boxing, well you have all these belts, but who did you actually fight? What was your body of work?
This ain't a popular opinion but Kendrick has 1 classic album. GKMC. Anything after that has 0 replay value as a whole. I compare Kendrick albums to jordan Peele movies. They both have hella hype coming out then they be wack af. But folks try to tell you "you ain't deep enough to understand...." Or " you must be raised my a single woman" any excuse to try to diminish you not liking they wack shit.
 
This ain't a popular opinion but Kendrick has 1 classic album. GKMC. Anything after that has 0 replay value as a whole. I compare Kendrick albums to jordan Peele movies. They both have hella hype coming out then they be wack af. But folks try to tell you "you ain't deep enough to understand...." Or " you must be raised my a single woman" any excuse to try to diminish you not liking they wack shit.

You can say he has one, but that's still more than the other two :dunno:

Personally, I think Kendrick has three albums better than anything the other two have.

It's like how I don't think Busta Rhymes has classic albums other than people picking an album and saying this is his best, because he's Busta Rhymes....and it becomes classic. He has classic verses, guest appearances and songs a la Cole.
 
Yall say Kendrick the goat and damn sure ain't nobody riding around bumping "my auntie is a man" so you can kill that lazy argument

The irony is Mr Morale displays the maturity and growth and age appropriateness that Drake is lacking

I think that album is mostly dope, besides that and We Cry Together

 
You can say he has one, but that's still more than the other two :dunno:

Personally, I think Kendrick has three albums better than anything the other two have.

It's like how I don't think Busta Rhymes has classic albums other than people picking an album and saying this is his best, because he's Busta Rhymes....and it becomes classic. He has classic verses, guest appearances and songs a la Cole.
I'll give you that. If it's not GKMC I'm not listening to Kendrick. I can listen tracks off of multiple Cole albums and projects
 
The rumor has been around that he got his body worked on. Lipo. Fake abs. "Surgical summer." Who know what's true, but Rihanna and Megan fans have been running with it for a while now.
Drake had his body done many times. This is a fact and I aint even a Drake fan. How yall acting like it is "rumor"?
 
He might be the best actual rapper

but we need to stop doing this, Kendrick has actual classic albums. That matters.

and not the pity classics that people try to give Cole and Drake. People give them classics because of who they are, not the actual music on those albums. It's their best work or their debut albums, so it's classic.

Just like boxing, well you have all these belts, but who did you actually fight? What was your body of work?
Kendrick don't speak to me. He is lame and trying too hard.
Cole has classic hip hop albums bro.
 
Yall say Kendrick the goat and damn sure ain't nobody riding around bumping "my auntie is a man" so you can kill that lazy argument
Y’all? I don’t listen to Kendrick Lamar and his weird voice with terrible production. Nas is clearly the GOAT. He’s released 3 borderline classic albums in the past 2 years
 
Agreed on Nas being the goat. But with that being said ain't nobody riding round bumping his shit either.
Y’all? I don’t listen to Kendrick Lamar and his weird voice with terrible production. Nas is clearly the GOAT. He’s released 3 borderline classic albums in the past 2 years
 
You wildin, any adult over 30 with a brain that loves hiphop is
Listening to yes. Pulling up next to the car next to you and hearing new Nas playing. Hell naw. And that was your initial point on Cole. Nobody is riding round playing him.
 
Listening to yes. Pulling up next to the car next to you and hearing new Nas playing. Hell naw. And that was your initial point on Cole. Nobody is riding round playing him.
That’s because anybody over a certain age that has grown up ain’t riding around blasting music mad loud. Other than the motorcycle niggas and I heard one the other day playing if I ruled the world mad loud by Nas.

I’m saying nobody even listening to Cole at regular volume because they will drive off the road and crash from falling asleep.

Shit I hear coming from cars loud as fuck is that auto tune singing rap trash with 808’s all over it . Mainly Durk and that other NBA annoying crybaby whining song rap bullshit
 
Cole been on a tear and he said he's working with more outside producers, mfkr is tired of yall talking about his beats! Haha

Best decision that man ever made

And trust I heard every mix tape and remember the Hov co sign.

He was always talented

But his flow was boring and so was his beats but he was never ever wack.

It was ONE SONG ONE BEAT that I heard that I became a permanent fan and knew one day he gonna figure it all out.



And then with EVERY SINGLE track he improved

He ain't my favorite MC but I root for him and always check whatever he on.
 
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Am I the only person here that takes it personal when I see " Joe only has ONE song" . Never hear anyone say it personally...cause the inna nets fools got me heated as to where I wish I can reach through the screen to choke a mofo

To be fair?

I understand no one around for the music blogs, Clue tapes, etc etc

Pump it Up and maybe React is it.

To a real hip hop fan?

Joe got classic records freestyles mix tapes features slaughterhouse summer leather vest.

But he was also joe budden tv the radio youtube podcast...

To an ENTIRE generation he a "hip hop journalist"
 
To be fair?

I understand no one around for the music blogs, Clue tapes, etc etc

Pump it Up and maybe React is it.

To a real hip hop fan?

Joe got classic records freestyles mix tapes features slaughterhouse summer leather vest.

But he was also joe budden tv the radio youtube podcast...

To an ENTIRE generation he a "hip hop journalist"
Yeah to our generation ( late 30s to 50) he's an artist. It's the young fools DRAKE and YB stans that throws that out there. They're afraid to listen to Mood Muzik cause it will change their opinion of Joe
 
Yeah to our generation ( late 30s to 50) he's an artist. It's the young fools DRAKE and YB stans that throws that out there. They're afraid to listen to Mood Muzik cause it will change their opinion of Joe

I don't want to do that though...

That's OUR MUSIC.

I hope they would like it. I think they should at least KNOW it.

But now we sounding like out parents.

And trust me a whole lot of our generation ain't Joe was the greatest ever.
We were stans too.
 
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