Is Capitalism a Rich man war

[RoadRage]

You gave an answer or explanation that the IG post was not asking, though.

There was nothing inaccurate in that post.

You may disagree, but not on the facts.

The 1st system will be a struggle, but depending on the combined performance of the participants in the second system, it can give the third a run for its money.

Second, talented people don’t run sh!t.

That’s the problem with government and companies.

It’s reflected in the lawsuits against local, state, and the federal governments.

Racism and discrimination lawsuits. They usually represent African descended Americans who are the more/most talented but due to mediocrity being I charge, they have to sue for their rightful place to be the most talented AND in charge.

In capitalism, it appears you have to have poor to have rich. Unregulated, that is true. We are living it. However, if companies simply honored their contracts, if governments simply honored their contracts, we would be fine, BUT THEN…that would be CAPITALism.

Capitalism is just like anything else. Ithas been marketed to us in a way that itis the best option, to the point we don’t even research financial systems through time, but trust the youngest, most violent, and most racist one on the planet.


Society is relative and oversold.

75% of white Americans live around other white Americans. That’s they society. They don’t feel they are missing nothing.We have the same ability if we so choose to build it.


Man, these generalizations are tough to substantiate. Your first sentence is a common conservative trope.

People want to be paid for their work.

That’s fair to feel strongly about considering the history of this country.

People in the west can do it, they just won’t do it and I have no problem with them that want to pay that price.

And a woman monetizing anything in her body is the embodiment of capitalism and most men don’t have an issue supporting it, but not supporting the women in it.

Talented people don't run shit, huh?
If you were to have an island of thousand good people, and I had one with 100 geniuses, and we were situated 500 miles from each other, with the same resources (iron, wood, stone, land for food, cattle, and freshwater).
If I were a fucked up person I'd have your island and everything on it, within ten years.

 

[RoadRage]

Now let me present the problem with capitalism that actually makes sense.

First let me explain what I call the cell phone battery paradox, to illustrate.

Years back there were two camps of thought when it came to cellphones. One was to have an open phone, where you could change the battery and upgrade individually. These phones were actually much better for the consumer, if your phone started slowing down, all you had to do was buy a new battery and do a factory reset, problem solved. The other camp (Apple) introduced the closed box phone, one where all the parts were perfectly integrated with each other, could not be removed, upgraded or tampered with. These phones usually ran better but once they started going bad they were toast.
Now on face value, you'd think the consumer would choose to have the better cheaper phone that they could upgrade and fix themselves. But here is what really happened, the turnabout rate for sales for the Apple phones was higher, causing people to equate higher sales with better phones, and due to the faster turnabout rate of the phones, they had more money to which they were able to invest in future technology (a.k.a, more bells, and whistles). This lured more investors, giving them more money to splurge in commercials making it appear to be even better and better.
Meanwhile, the android phones tend to last longer, so their companies did not have the rapid turnabout money so they saw the writing on the wall, and in a few years, all android phones were also closed box phones.
The problem is that most of them lacked the equity Apple had and had to cut corners, usually in memory and batteries, this caused phones to catch on fire and performance issues. Now years later many if not most phone companies are struggling to stay afloat, even the giants such as Apple and Samsung is finding it harder and harder to justify rolling out new phones that basically do the same thing.
The irony is that if all phones were open boxes the cell phone would not be as technically advanced, probably more expensive, less sexy yet more stable.
Capatalism is like Apple, as long as it exist open source governments cannot compete, however, by trying to compete and fight fire with fire, it almost garentees the collapse of the market as a whole. So as long as we are attracted to bigger, better and faster, we will always have an Apple company, Capitalism and the reality of one day all of it collapsing.

Hope this makes sense to you guys.

 

[RoadRage]

Just to clarify, capitalism promotes exponential growth in technology, health, population, and money, making it almost impossible to compete against. However its biggest downfall is the very things that give it such an advantage, which is the exponential and unregulated growth, because it creates a loop of demand, growth to meet the demand, and growth in population creating a newer and bigger demand. This vicious cycle eventually collapses within its self and when it does, the bigger they cycle the harder the collapse. This is why many suspect that we purposely collapse the system every 15 years or so, to sort of reboot the system, even this is flawed because these "planned" collapses seem to be happening more and more rapidly, sounding the alarm that the system is beyond reforming.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

The biggest flaw in capitalism is the growth at all costs mentality that follows.

Apple creates a revolutionary new smartphone. Eventually they realized that instead of making new innovations it's far cheaper to just make the phones break down every couple of years and force customers to buy new ones.

It's crooked, but under capitalism Apple was forced to make this choice. If they didn't the stock value goes down, people sell their shares, it becomes harder and more expensive to get new funding so the vicious cycle continues.

Same thing applies to taxes. Apple "sold" all of their patents to a company in Ireland. This company leases the patents back to Apple at a price so high there's no income left to tax.

Again, if Apple did the honest thing and paid taxes stock price goes down etc.

Government tells them to follow a green initiative or pay the fine. If the fine cost less than the initiative they're going to do what it takes to save the green.

But the craziest part of all is that we worship and look up to the people who do these terrible things.

 

[RoadRage]

The biggest flaw in capitalism is the growth at all costs mentality that follows.

Apple creates a revolutionary new smartphone. Eventually they realized that instead of making new innovations it's far cheaper to just make the phones break down every couple of years and force customers to buy new ones.

It's crooked, but under capitalism Apple was forced to make this choice. If they didn't the stock value goes down, people sell their shares, it becomes harder and more expensive to get new funding so the vicious cycle continues.

Same thing applies to taxes. Apple "sold" all of their patents to a company in Ireland. This company leases the patents back to Apple at a price so high there's no income left to tax.

Again, if Apple did the honest thing and paid taxes stock price goes down etc.

Government tells them to follow a green initiative or pay the fine. If the fine cost less than the initiative they're going to do what it takes to save the green.

But the craziest part of all is that we worship and look up to the people who do these terrible things.

Keep in mind, when there is no room for growth or once the market becomes over-saturated, then they have no other choice than to convince people that they are far better off with them. This is why Apple commercial focuses on showing people happy rather than promoting actual specs on the phone. Likewise, capitalism basically is selling the dream that we are far better off with it than socialism and commonism. To be honest, right now this may be the case but at the cost of being unstable and proned to hard collapses, the question has to be is it worth it.
To put in context, the so called NWO (NEW WORLD ORDER) deals with the notion of a world goverment system that is designed to present a permanent solution to the world economic woos after the collapse of capitalism my question is how.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Keep in mind, when there is no room for growth or once the market becomes over-saturated, then they have no other choice than to convince people that they are far better off with them. This is why Apple commercial focuses on showing people happy rather than promoting actual specs on the phone. Likewise, capitalism basically is selling the dream that we are far better off with it than socialism and commonism. To be honest, right now this may be the case but at the cost of being unstable and proned to hard collapses, the question has to be is it worth it.
To put in context, the so called NWO (NEW WORLD ORDER) deals with the notion of a world goverment system that is designed to present a permanent solution to the world economic woos after the collapse of capitalism my question is how.

If the system collapses the government collapses along with it. Same thing that happened to the USSR 30 years ago.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

If the system collapses the government collapses along with it. Same thing that happened to the USSR 30 years ago.

And look where they are now.

No thanks.

 

[Supersav]

 

[hardawayz16]

Here's your chance to show me one large nation that was able to successfully live like smaller communities. You're on the clock go.

You can't run a simple food co-op without ironclad rules and a mandatory work commitment from members but let them tell it....

 

[Supersav]

If the system collapses the government collapses along with it. Same thing that happened to the USSR 30 years ago.

The United States happened to the USSR. Like it's sabotaged every other successful socialist government.

 

[hardawayz16]

The United States happened to the USSR. Like it's sabotaged every other successful socialist government.

Their "success" came at the expense of deaths of millions of their own people....

 

[Supersav]

Their "success" came at the expense of deaths of millions of their own people....

Sounds like america huh...how many have died here under the capitalist system? How many in poverty? Surely you jest

 

[hardawayz16]

What does the US and capitalism have to do with the war being waged in Ethiopia right now?

 

[Supersav]

Their "success" came at the expense of deaths of millions of their own people....

Also your country has a lot to do with the "deaths" of people in socialist countries with their sanctions on any country that won't adapt the American model and let American corporations rape em of their resources

 

[hardawayz16]

Sounds like america huh...how many have died here under the capitalist system? How many in poverty? Surely you jest

Within the Soviet Union, forced changes in agricultural policies (collectivization), confiscations of grain and droughts caused the Soviet famine of 1932–1933......The famine was most severe in Ukraine, where it is often referenced as the Holodomor. A significant portion of the famine victims (3.3 to 7.5 million) were Ukrainians......The famine was officially recognized as genocide by Ukraine and other governments.

Yup, sounds just like America...

 

[Mask]

What does the US and capitalism have to do with the war being waged in Ethiopia right now?

Fuck I don’t know

Do you think they behind the war in Cambodia

 

[Supersav]

What does the US and capitalism have to do with the war being waged in Ethiopia right now?

You don't think external capitalist forces are responsible for this conflict? Do a Google search on which side the US supports or has been supporting

 

[hardawayz16]

You don't think external capitalist forces are responsible for this conflict? Do a Google search on which side the US supports or has been supporting

No, I'm not going to assume the US is responsible for a conflict where the motives aren't clear. If you have evidence to the contrary I'll check it.

Now you don't think these countries might try to involve the US by begging for money and weapons to fight their wars?

 

[Dannyblueyes]

The United States happened to the USSR. Like it's sabotaged every other successful socialist government.

Of course they did. The United States and USSR were at war. That's what you're supposed to do.

As for sabotaging successful socialist governments, when was the last time we attacked the Netherlands?

 

[RoadRage]

Of course they did. The United States and USSR were at war. That's what you're supposed to do.

As for sabotaging successful socialist governments, when was the last time we attacked the Netherlands?

People tend to overlook one of the biggest roles of governments (isms) which is protecting the people and its economy. WTF is the point of having the perfect society that can be invaded or sabotaged by a bunch of 10th-grade hackers? In my book, if you won a revolutionary war, only to have your government collapse due to your enemy sabotaging your government, then guess what, you only won the battle but lost the war!

 

[jack walsh13]

Is a frogs ass watertight?

 

[Supersav]

Of course they did. The United States and USSR were at war. That's what you're supposed to do.

As for sabotaging successful socialist governments, when was the last time we attacked the Netherlands?

Did you purposely miss the part about attacking socialist countries that refuse to allow US corporations to eat off their resources? The US is the largest foreign investor in the Netherlands lmao. Read more sir

 

[Supersav]

No, I'm not going to assume the US is responsible for a conflict where the motives aren't clear. If you have evidence to the contrary I'll check it.

Now you don't think these countries might try to involve the US by begging for money and weapons to fight their wars?

Involve a country with more army bases in Africa and around the world then anybody else. You think the US only involves itself when asked lmao. Or maybe when it's something in it for them? What does the US gain from Africom? You can't have this elementary view of history and how things work. You gonna tell me next the US went to Iraq to free the Iraqi people right?

 

[hardawayz16]

You can't have this elementary view of history and how things work.

Here's how things work: Those "external capitalist forces" and their actions abroad have helped give you a life of comfort compared to the majority of the world.

 

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[Supersav]

Here's how things work: Those "external capitalist forces" and their actions abroad have helped give you a life of comfort compared to the majority of the world.

 

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[BKF]

The biggest flaw in capitalism is the growth at all costs mentality that follows.

Apple creates a revolutionary new smartphone. Eventually they realized that instead of making new innovations it's far cheaper to just make the phones break down every couple of years and force customers to buy new ones.

It's crooked, but under capitalism Apple was forced to make this choice. If they didn't the stock value goes down, people sell their shares, it becomes harder and more expensive to get new funding so the vicious cycle continues.

Same thing applies to taxes. Apple "sold" all of their patents to a company in Ireland. This company leases the patents back to Apple at a price so high there's no income left to tax.

Again, if Apple did the honest thing and paid taxes stock price goes down etc.

Government tells them to follow a green initiative or pay the fine. If the fine cost less than the initiative they're going to do what it takes to save the green.

But the craziest part of all is that we worship and look up to the people who do these terrible things.

The biggest problem with capitalism is greed.
The biggest problem with socialism is apathy.

 

[Louis Koo]

communism

it's all a wealthy man's game

 

[BKF]

 

[Supersav]

communism

it's all a wealthy man's game

China isn't currently communist

 

[BKF]