They actually believe that dumb shit
Is anyone on here REALLY voting for Kamala ? Why should I vote for Kamala?
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This makes zero sense. Israel didn't just start committing war crimes this year. Obama gave them 18 billion while they killed babies and displaced families. There is no worse under trump than it is now..same shit gonna go on
Biden would die before not giving Israel what they want. He's been a believer in the state from pretty much day 1 given his catholicism and age.
Here we go so now it's Obama's fault, because we all know how Bibi loved Obama.
Yes the US will always help Israel, If Biden is such a ally, why is Bibi pandering to republicans and Biden being called weak by all the Jewish groups for not supporting Israel more?
So you both saying there would be no difference if Kamala wins, then where are all the post with non support for Trump because of his stance on Israel?
If you have been tricked by the greatest NYC Hustler EVER just rock with it. QGTM. Hopefully yall got his sneakers, Bible, etc
If you have been tricked by the greatest NYC Hustler EVER just rock with it. QGTM. Hopefully yall got his sneakers, Bible, etc
They paying them fools in maga crypto lol.
Yea, of course. Are we supposed to support the party that is actively attempting to block the black vote, ban black books in education, that ended affirmative action and DEI initiatives in education? Are you a plant?
Democrats fear race may be slipping away from Harris
by Amie Parnes - 10/23/24 6:00 AM ETThere is growing fear in Democratic circles that the presidential race could be slipping further away from Vice President Harris.
To be sure, Democrats still think Harris can defeat former President Trump. The margins are so close in the seven battleground states likely to decide the contest, a shift toward either candidate or a mistake in the polling could be decisive.
At the same time, Democrats are privately expressing worry that battleground polling appears to be moving in Trump’s direction over the last two weeks.
Cracks in the “blue wall” of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are starting to show, with Senate incumbents in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin now in toss-up races, according to the Cook Political Report.
The three northern states generally move in the same direction in the presidential race, but Harris has been losing ground to Trump in polls, particularly in Wisconsin. In Michigan, doubts among Arab American voters are worrying Democrats.
None of this is making Democrats feel better about an Election Day that is now less than two weeks away.
“Everyone keeps saying, ‘It’s close.’ Yes, it’s close, but are things trending our way? No. And no one wants to openly admit that,” one Democratic strategist said. “Could we still win? Maybe. Should anyone be even slightly optimistic right now? No.”
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Another strategist was even more dour when asked about the current state of play: “If this is a vibe election, the current vibes ain’t great.”
Harris could have another path to victory that would involve winning Pennsylvania, losing another blue wall state but winning North Carolina and Nevada. But neither of those states are firmly in her camp, nor are two other swing states, Arizona and Georgia.
Jon Ralston, a veteran political journalist in Nevada, also reported a rare statewide lead among Republicans who have voted early in the state.
“It’s too soon to call it a trend, but this was a huge day for Republicans in Nevada,” Ralston wrote in his popular blog at The Nevada Independent. He later noted that overnight, Democrats had cut into the Republican advantage, but the GOP maintained a 2 percentage point lead as of Tuesday.
Democratic strategist Jim Manley, who served as a senior aide to then-Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) during his tenure as Senate majority leader, acknowledged that the rash of news was discouraging. But he said he still feels optimistic about Harris’s chances.
“It’s pretty damn frustrating for it to be so close given how extreme and unhinged Trump’s rhetoric has become in the last couple of weeks,” Manley said.
“I just hope and trust they’ve got a plan,” he said of the Harris campaign.
Other Democrats interviewed by The Hill on Tuesday also voiced some optimism. Some pointed to Harris’s robust schedule in the closing days of the campaign, when she is expected to spend the bulk of her time in the battleground states.
While Trump trolled Harris for being out of the public eye for much of Tuesday — the vice president was conducting two interviews — she will travel to Houston on Friday to appear before a large crowd to speak about abortion rights.
Traveling to Texas, which is not a swing state, has raised some eyebrows.
But campaign aides say the moment will be a powerful one as she begins her closing campaign argument by appearing alongside women who have been impacted by the state’s strict abortion laws. It’s a moment they believe will play across the country and generate attention.
“She needs these big moments,” one consultant close to the campaign said. “Polls show that abortion is one of those issues that will continue to drive women in both parties to the polls.”
Democratic strategist Jamal Simmons, who served as Harris’s communications director until early last year, commended his former boss for running “a spectacular campaign.” He said she had taken risks — including appearing in a Fox News interview last week — and effectively turned Republicans such as Cheney “into another running mate.”
Democratic strategist Brad Bannon said while the race is a dead heat, “Harris is more popular than Trump, which means her vote has more growth potential than he does.
“She is doing much more than Trump to reach out of her base,” Bannon said. “The best example is her round of stops with Cheney in swing suburbs that Nikki Haley won in Republican primaries.”
“The swing voters are more personality than issue-driven, and Trump’s persona is rapidly disintegrating.”
At the same time, Democratic strategist Joel Payne added that “both campaigns have hard things to do in the closing days.
“I’d prefer to have to do the hard things that Harris has to do instead of Trump,” Payne said. “But make no mistake: This is a turnout election, and her team is going to have to close strong with their get-out-the-vote operation to win this thing.”
A former aide in the Obama White House said the race could go either way, and no one should be surprised by either result.
“It feels like two things are true at the same time,” the aide explained. “It’s either … of course she was always a flawed candidate, nobody likes her, she’s tainted by Biden, and all of the macrofactors have slid away from Team Blue — it’s becoming a border, economy, foreign affairs election.”
“Or, of course — he was a terrible candidate, ran a horrible, crazy campaign, had no real ground game or fundraising and then acted like an insane person.”
“It’s sort of the opposite of 2016, which was, ‘How could this happen?’ This feels more like, ‘Of course this happened.’ … We just don’t know which yet.”
Oh no! Ta-Nehisi is about to be put on the shit list! "Ol' Trump-ass nigga.....blah blah blah....."
TNC: I don’t have much hope for a Harris presidency. I think more about systems. Abe Lincoln did not come into office wanting to smash slavery. Events dictated that that was what happened in politics. And not the least was the politics of Black people pushing in that direction.
So when I say I don’t really have hope for a Harris presidency disrupting that colonial system, it is not like I have hope for some other Democratic president doing it. I think these things are deeply, deeply entrenched.
Should Kamala Harris win this year and in 2028 run again and there’d be no change in the US’s Israel policy at all, the calculus will be roughly something like this: “I will continue to fund and support Israel’s right to apartheid. I will continue to be the arms provider for that. And that is the price of maintaining a woman’s right to choose.” Or something roughly like that. That’s a depressing prospect because Black people have been in that role that Palestinians would be in or are in right now. The New Deal was passed on our back, right? In order for it to happen, we had to be cut out of it.
My hope for Black politics is that it wouldn’t just mean someone [else] taking up the seat that we once occupied, without even questioning the seat itself. I feel the anti-apartheid cause is increasingly vibrant and that it matters in terms of political impact. I don’t think it will matter less in 2028. It’s not so much hope, but I do think something needs to change.
So when I say I don’t really have hope for a Harris presidency disrupting that colonial system, it is not like I have hope for some other Democratic president doing it. I think these things are deeply, deeply entrenched.
Should Kamala Harris win this year and in 2028 run again and there’d be no change in the US’s Israel policy at all, the calculus will be roughly something like this: “I will continue to fund and support Israel’s right to apartheid. I will continue to be the arms provider for that. And that is the price of maintaining a woman’s right to choose.” Or something roughly like that. That’s a depressing prospect because Black people have been in that role that Palestinians would be in or are in right now. The New Deal was passed on our back, right? In order for it to happen, we had to be cut out of it.
My hope for Black politics is that it wouldn’t just mean someone [else] taking up the seat that we once occupied, without even questioning the seat itself. I feel the anti-apartheid cause is increasingly vibrant and that it matters in terms of political impact. I don’t think it will matter less in 2028. It’s not so much hope, but I do think something needs to change.
"Why don't he say anything negative about trump"
"Fuck y'all 'both sides' coons!"
She didnt compare Trump to hitler she quoted what he said.
The comments from John Kelly, the retired Marine general who worked for Trump in the White House from 2017 to 2019, came in interviews with both The New York Times and The Atlantic.
Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat “suckers” and “losers.” Still, his new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within.”
“Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
“He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying “nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good,” but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
In his interview with The Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing “German generals,” Kelly would ask if he meant “Bismarck’s generals,” referring to Otto von Bismarck, the former chancellor of the German Reich who oversaw the unification of Germany. “Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
Trump said Hitler 'did some good things' and wanted generals like the Nazis, former chief of staff Kelly claims
John Kelly's new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as former President Donald Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within.”
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what do you think of those comments???
This is bullshit. Watch the exit polls
I am voting for Kamala Harris and it's not that she is the best thing since beans and rice, but she's not Trump. Trump, the man who said he would date his own daughter if she wasn't his daughter. Both parties stink; Republicans have no principles and Democrats have no spine. Lol.
She didnt compare Trump to hitler she quoted what he said.
The comments from John Kelly, the retired Marine general who worked for Trump in the White House from 2017 to 2019, came in interviews with both The New York Times and The Atlantic.
Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat “suckers” and “losers.” Still, his new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within.”
“Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
“He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying “nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good,” but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
In his interview with The Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing “German generals,” Kelly would ask if he meant “Bismarck’s generals,” referring to Otto von Bismarck, the former chancellor of the German Reich who oversaw the unification of Germany. “Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.”
Trump said Hitler 'did some good things' and wanted generals like the Nazis, former chief of staff Kelly claims
John Kelly's new warnings came just two weeks before Election Day, as former President Donald Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within.”
what do you think of those comments???
I mean we (the world) did get a lot of advances in technology, medicine, and science from the Nazis, so he is not wrong. As fucked up as the SS / Third Reich was in performing medical experiments on Jews and Northern Africans, some of the vaccines and OTC drugs we have nowadays came from those very experiments. Take Sulfanilamide for example , it’s used to treat vaginal yeast and bacterial infections, well the Nazi’s had there had in that. Vaccines and treatment for malaria, typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, yellow fever, and hepatitis were also attributed to the Nazis- and that’s just the some of the medical. As ethically wrong as eugenics is, technically on some parts it is right to some degree.
But that’s with any tyrannical regimen that does human atrocities, there is always something that the world ends up benefitting from. Shoot as screwed up as Ghengis Khan was he is admired for his war tactics and strategies to some.
If anyone is driving a BMW or Benz you gotta tip your hat off to them Germans of the 30’s and 40’s they set the foundation for one hella of a piece of machinery.
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1. This might be the first time or very few times youve posted about Stein or her campaign this whole season. As you've opted to use your energy to tear at Harris and/or promote trump simply by posting positive progress in his campaign.
It's curious why you choose to do that rather than promote the party and people you claim to personally support yourself?
2. Did you actually listen to her answer? She said she doesn't have the answer but she's open to the debate. And she used the term POC a number of times. And the phrase "figure out a way to make people whole..." is subject to intense dispute by itself. Harris has said something similar on the topic but it's either ignored or considered an insufficient answer.
What are the chances that both sides of the aisle and both chambers of the legislative branch will agree on a solution? How will a right leaning/conservative SCOTUS factor in? What are the chances that an order by the executive branch will survive the next presidential administration?
I appreciate that she tackles the subject head-on but she's NOT addressing what actual process it will take to make any headway on it.
In the meantime what are other ways that issues in the black community can be addressed in specific ways that's not POC tinged?
Has she made promises to other communities and what does that look like compared to what she's said she'd do for black Americans? Cuz that's the scrutiny Harris and Dems alone get. No one asks trump or republicans these questions no one puts their feet to fire on how any of it will get done yet youre happy to see more young black men/people vote for him or the GOP.
Why is that if both sides are the same??
Now are you or anyone going to answer any of these or are you going to ignore it in favor of more trolling?
You could say the same thing about the Tuskegee experiment. You good with that?
Trump said loyal generals... generals job especially Hitler's was to execute war policy... emphasis on execute... without question.
You do realize the president is the direct commander in chief of the military and as such has direct control even congress can't intervene. So you WANT an open dictator in America? Is that it?
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1st off Hitler focus was eugenics and trying to rebuild an economically broken Germany. The war part was only incidental or really just a consequence of how he went about doing it.
2nd of course trump wants loyal ppl, just as anyone would who is trying to achieve a set goal. You think Obama would’ve had ppl on the team that didnt want to have Bin Laden killed, hell no. Take Steve Jobs for example that fool fired anyone who went against the grain of what he was trying to build, and years later we have Apple. Same with Henry Ford.
3rd yes the Tuskegee experiments were fucked up, but don’t try to use the plight of those who suffered to negate the fact that there were actual scientific advancements or new insights on how to combat syphillis.
The war part wasn't incidental...it was germane. It was the only way to get what he wanted done in manner he wanted it done. Night of the long knives wasn't a coincidence.*
Getting the military to kill a terrorist isn't the same as getting the military to execute or jam up your political opponents..which by his statements sounds like something he would be amenable to.
Do you think the people subject to that treatment find solace in that? It's easy to say you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette...when you're not the egg.
*On June 30, 1934, Adolf Hitler ordered the SS and German army to murder many of his opponents in a series of events known as the Night of the Long Knives.
These aren’t questions. These are biased ad hominem attacks and accusations with “questions” framed around them. If you want sincere answers then you need to ask objectively.
If Harris loses, expect Democrats to move right
Even though Harris is running as a moderate, progressives are likely to get blamed for her defeat.
Eric LevitzOct 22, 2024 at 5:30 AM EDTDemocrats are currently focused on the fight against Donald Trump. But quietly, factions within the party are preparing contingency plans for a different battle: the one over how to interpret a Kamala Harris loss.
Polls of the 2024 election show the closest presidential race in modern memory. For Harris, defeat is roughly as likely as victory. The former outcome is sure to trigger a fierce intra-Democratic debate over what the party should learn from losing the White House (twice) to an unpopular demagogue.
Already, moderates in the party are seeding the narrative that Harris was doomed by the Biden administration’s excessive deference to left-wing interest groups and aversion to orthodox economics. Some progressives suggest that Harris may be undone by her ties to big business, failure to articulate a “vision for the country,” and complicity in Israeli atrocities in Gaza.
It’s impossible to say with absolute certainty which — if any — of these theories would become conventional wisdom in the event of a second Trump victory.
Often, when a party suffers an electoral rebuke, the faction that led it into the wilderness loses influence within the coalition. After Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016, the Democratic Party became more progressive, ceding influence to some of her left-wing critics………….
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Are you forgetting that America financially supported Hitler and the Nazis in 35 and 37 while Germany was invading other countries America passed the neutrality act so they couldn't get involved. Big time rally at Madison Square Garden in support of the Nazi's...and after the war they stole all of their top scientists and gave refuge to plenty of war criminals. Trump is doing what America always does.
Cant make this shit up 
WTF 
The military's ultimate loyalty is to the Constitution, not to any President. That's why at the end of Trump's term, the military informed other nations there would be NO commands to attack them that would be obeyed, and I'm sure they told Trump that his ass would be removed from the White House one way or another.
Just like they told him they would not attack American citizens.
I can't believe people are wanting a Saddam like dictator. This is the stupidest timeline of all. Thanos needs to snap this shit out of existence.
So you're saying the world was better off for our ancestors being enslaved then?
So why don't you do the world a favor and go through slavery yourself. Let massa nut up in your wife and daughter in front of you then make your ass work the fields so the world can benefit.