Nah it's not something I need to get on anybody about....that's for you dem bots who think shit is going to change...get to it
Is anyone on here REALLY voting for Kamala ? Why should I vote for Kamala?
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They need more gay rights and family members from over seas here. They voting for their interests. They tryna trick everyone else to do so too is the annoying thing.
Right because these people haven’t been in office already
I’m not voting for Hitler 24 but if these reps aren’t in place then she’s making empty promises is she not?
You can rail against it all day long but capitalism is what created the USA...hell if you wanna get REALLY REAL about it Black Americans as a group exist solely due to capitalism. So youre not changing the system as it functions on that level/issue no matter what.
Can you list the powers of the Vice President?
What policy can a vice president implement?
Youre GOING to deal with hitler24 red or blue whether you vote or not. What she listed is stuff that not only doable but has been done...trump called them Opportunity Zones for the black community ircc...
if theres one thing I do agree with its down ballot voting but theres no pressure put on these representatives to get anything done.
Explain
Man, stop asking logical common sense questions and holding Democrats to any of their "promises." This is BGOL and we don't play that here!
Lift Every Voice: The Biden Plan for Black America
https://medium.com/@JoeBiden/lift-every-voice-the-biden-plan-for-black-america-d546228da188
In order for capitalism to exist extreme poverty must also exist. The exploitation of the working class is a key component. So you like most of the bourgeois are fine with this fact as long as it doesn't affect you.
Slavery and all that it entails is capitalism at its core and worst. The Africans never called themselves "black" thats how the Europeans described them. Those enslaved Africans came from many different countries and ethnic groups in west africa. They are Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Kikuyu etc and thats just a few in West Africa.. Those are specific ethnic groups who determined who they are by their own culture and religion, language cuisine etc. It's not that they aren't just black... they aren't black at all. Africans aren't black as black and white are race terms and European concepts that's a purely social construct that has socio-political value in western culture.
You/WE are "Black" Americans solely due to western culture capitalism. How we got here...how we were regarded as PROPERTY...how we had our true identities disappeared and replaced with a skin color designation. All due to capitalism.
I was expecting something deeper..I know how race came to be and why. Your original statement was that we wouldn't exist as a group of not for capitalism. Just because we came from different countries in Africa (also created by europeans) and different tribes we would always exist as a group especially amongst the racist Europeans... similar to how the Indians were characterized even tho they were from different tribes. Black people were also in the Americas before the Europeans came here. To say capitalism is why black Americans exist as a group is wrong . Capitalism is the cause of black poverty and the poor economic conditions we struggle with as a group
Whoever the africans that was here before the europeans werent black. This is my point.... you cant think of africans outside of the black/negro dynamic, definition and terminology forced on them. I didnt say AFRICANS wouldnt exist were it not for capitalism I said so-called "black" people in america as a group.... is here solely due to capitalism.
Very
Wrong, the think Black men like menthol cigarettes, malt liquor and white women .
They can't promise anything other than trying.
now you said this and your buddies cosigned it....
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THE BLACK AGENDA Cannabis America must right a wrong In 2009, an undercover Louisiana police officer approached Fate Winslow, a Black homeless man. The police officer was soliciting marijuana, and Winslow went off to obtain $20 worth of the drug from a white dealer nearby. He returned and made...www.adosfoundation.org
and just so we're clear I'm not making shit up....this comes from links @VAiz4hustlaz provided himself...
What does any of this have to do with my opinion?
What's your point? And how does it relate to this conversation? Capitalism as a system has failed black people. You participate in the system knowing that people that look like you will remain poor and disadvantaged in order for the system to continue.
For the record, you two call it pandering because you're negative and have a cynical view on anything that Kamala or the Democratic Party says.
Others call it proposals or propositions.
@Supersav and @VAiz4hustlaz are you two voting?
Well like I stated earlier...black capitalism was originally used as a tactic by Nixon to squash black radicalism. My cynical view comes from a historical base...your positive view comes from nothing
Your opinion is your opinion but it flies in the face of other black people who have a coalition to do something that benefits black americans specifically.
Black americans arent a monolith but there needs to be consensus in order to move in a direction that benefits all black americans...
so far in the last 4 pages alone...all the people who are against voting for Kamala over trump all have conflicting ideas and reason for why blacks shouldnt vote for her
fuck the dems pan africanism is the way.....some blacks oppose pan africanism
fuck weed and entrepreneurship programs....a black activist group demands weed and entrepreneurship programs
Capitalism is a failed system.....pretty sure many blacks dont see it that way.
REPARATIONS NOW!! ..... how many blacks actually want reparations honestly? How many are indifferent to it because they dont think its possible anyway?
DO stuff for the poor...neither party has ever addressed anything concerning the poor except for welfare programs and thats stigmatizing and read as patronizing.
the list goes on and on... until theres a concerted effort among black americans to get SOMETHING accomplished that address these issues theres never going to be progress in them.
Who said I was positive?
I answered this question earlier in the thread.
Your voting and actively advocating for people to vote for a women who doesn't have black people's best interest at heart
I just ask you not the thread. It's a yes or no question.
You called it "pandering", not me:
"I'd rather them pander to me and mention me rather than them saying fuck me to my face."
Then it's "yes."
You might be new to this but for most Black people when voting for president, we're always voting for the lesser of two evils.
And I'll tell everyone I know to vote for any opponent of trump.
Why's that so hard to understand?
considering "black" people were brought here involuntarily as PROPERTY...saying capitalism as a system has FAILED black people (assuming youre talking about Black Americans specifically) is like saying capitalism as a system has failed cows. It wasnt designed to help them in the first place. what dont you get about this???
@Supersav called it pandering. I just chose to use the same word as him so that he'd understand because that's the word that he chose to use.
She’s part of the same party, correct? Well why didn’t her And Joe get them done when he was in office? Stop making excuses by answering questions with questions
Sorry if you don't vote then you don't deserve to be in this discussion. But you do vote so we can continue to speak.
Oh you're probably talking about Jamar
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