Is a ‘white flight’ from social media on the horizon?

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Legendary Public Enemy frontman, rap artist and activist Chuck D, once told me that the title of the group’s track “Fear of a Black Planet” was a metaphor that addressed whites’ fear of being associated with people of color, and all the cultural and economic issues that integration brings.

It might seem unrelated, but a little thing called App.net that has many buzzing in the tech world might be the latest manifestation of that fear.

People are taking sides on the intent and format of what promises to be a Twitter-like social media feed in which, as the product’s homepage states, “users and developers come first, not advertisers.” The greatest talking point in the debate over its launch is the fact App.net will require an annual $50 membership fee. This cost might create a space segregated by class and color on the web, prompting richer (usually white) people to flee social media outlets like Twitter, on which people of color overindex, for more exclusive environs.

It would not be the first time. White flight from MySpace as illustrated by Harvard fellow Danah Boyd was an instance of what many of us at the water cooler of color had sensed when Facebook launched. The more “upscale” social media site seemed to provide a haven for the wealthy through a decreased visibility of working class people of color in near proximity.

What happened next extended beyond Facebook. Indeed, everything from the recent U.S. Census stats to Nielsen mobile research shows that middle class whites are increasingly becoming the minority.

There have long been uncomfortable murmurs by many in the tech world about people of color over-indexing on Twitter ever since the Edison Research/Arbitron Internet study establishing this fact was released. Other research also demonstrates the over-consumption of social media by this group, such as a study by Georgetown University’s Center for Social Impact Communication.

Just as there are white housing enclaves created for these segments to avoid the encroachment of non-whites, App.net could be the perfect place online for integration-reluctant whites to go next as this trend surely continues.

Could the $50 fee for App.net be a way to more ensure that poor people and people of color are barred?

App.net is the spawn of Dalton Caldwell, a young, Caucasian male who gained attention through his open letter to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, written after declining Zuckerberg’s overtures for collaboration. Caldwell allegedly ended up on the receiving end of Zuck’s wrath as a result, so with an “I’ll show ‘em” approach, Caldwell started a Kickstarter crowdfunding campaign to launch his own social media site.

He ended up obtaining darn near $800,000 to start App.net. Caldwell’s dreams are close to becoming reality with cash-in-hand, which is making some people very uncomfortable.

It’s not just jealously over a young white man having typically easier access to tech capital; it’s also the spirit in which Caldwell has spoken about his reasons for creating App.net that has people wondering. He has alluded, for instance, to the fact that he is not interested in seeing — horror, of horrors — Kmart ads in his timelines when he is active on social platforms.

Professor Andre Brock, who teaches at the University of Iowa’s School of Library and Information Science, writes about race, the Internet, and new media. He examined Caldwell’s attitude as it relates to how cultural ideologies effect Internet technology use and design.

From Brock’s perspective, “Dalton Caldwell’s brief mention of ‘K-Mart ads in my timeline,’ while a problematic reference to lower socio-economic commerce opportunities, is much more emblematic of the geek’s desire to retain the instrumental ‘purity’ of a social network ‘For Geeks By Geeks,’” he said in an interview with theGrio.

But Brock doesn’t let Caldwell off the hook for possible race and class-baiting. “Deploying racial and class-based ideology to attract attention to a fledgling enterprise (think ‘Manifest Destiny’ or Reagan’s ‘Welfare Queen’ rhetoric) is a long-standing tactic of American corporate and civic society,” the professor said. “It’s disappointing to see, but not surprising to find.”

In fact, the social media expert said this pattern of racism and classism is promoted by ‘geek’ culture under the guise of an empty rhetoric of universal acceptance.

“I’ve found in my last couple of research projects, such as research on the Resident Evil 5 video game, on a black-designed web browser, and most recently on Black Twitter, that there is definitely an undercurrent in online discourse that whites – particularly the male/geek/middle class strata – feel as if there is a ‘right’ way and a ‘wrong’ way to do ‘Internet.’ The ‘right’ way is invoked through beliefs in color-blind ideology (‘we shouldn’t recognize difference’), instrumental uses of tech (‘x product should be used THIS way’), and when prompted, the belief that non-whites and women don’t use tech ‘appropriately.’”

The confluence of such quotes and conditions has created speculation that App.net may be the harbinger of the rise of digital exclusivity based on socio-economic parameters, masked as a business model choice.

Are such accusations fair?

“If [it's] true that [people of color out-index on Twitter], it doesn’t surprise me to learn that white people might find [such platforms] ‘too black,’” Dr. Jessie Daniels, professor at City University of New York and author of Cyber Racism, told theGrio. “And, perhaps more to the point, white people in the U.S. have a long and consistent history of finding racially integrated spaces uncomfortable and then fleeing as a response. There are lots of examples of this, but racial integration in housing is maybe the most telling. Research indicates that when the percentage of blacks in a previously all-white neighborhood reaches about 7 percent, whites consistently begin to vote with moving vans and flee the neighborhood.”

It seems inevitable that the first-class versus coach approach of dividing the world would extend to the web through the socialization of mostly middle-class white male developers — and the desires of similar consumers — shaping social media. The issue, therefore, is much greater than the App.net platform and its business model. A race and class-divided App.net would simply be a microcosm of the socio-economic imbalances that are omnipresent.

App.net’s model — just like the lack of diversity policies at tech companies or minority representation on their boards — is the by-product of deeply rooted thought patterns in global society. Noted sociologist C. Wright Mills, author of The Power Elite, theorized in 1945 that class structure/exclusion is often reinforced via the schools and professional/social clubs to which one can gain admission. He called such vehicles “status elevators” enabling elite insiders to thrive based on their networks, and thus outshine the masses. So it should be no surprise that in 2012, the virtual equivalent to this social segmentation is being born online.

Can this be stopped? Daniels believes, “This is going to be a real dilemma… basically figuring out how to engineer around white people’s bias for all-white (or, mostly white) spaces. Part of what’s happening… is that the formerly predominantly white enclaves of neighborhoods, workplaces, mainstream media, and higher education are now much more porous.”

The larger question App.net raises is how to create greater balance in the real world, overall, so that we can then find equality in a digi-society. This is a question many of us are not yet ready to ponder, because it would require getting off of our social media apps and doing something.

In defense of App.net, however, one could say that a for-fee model is more indicative of the fact that we are moving away from quantity to quality in digital social interaction. Making people pay weeds people out who don’t want a quality experience. Yet, even if the motive is more sinister, do we have the right to dictate to another human being what to create and for whom, even if it blatantly excludes others?

Rather than debate this quandary, we might be better served to use the advent of this new social platform to decide how to create a future that is a little more fair for all — both on and off the computer screen.

Lauren DeLisa Coleman is part of the new technorati-to-watch. She is a mobile strategy specialist and analyst specializing in the convergence of Gen X, Y with hip tech platforms, and the author of the new e-book, Rise of the Smart Power Class. Follow her on Twitter at @mediaempress.

(This article has been updated to include links to studies regarding people of color over indexing on social media use.)
 
Hearing shit out here in Silicon Valley about twitter being AA dominated.


Seems certain people have a problem with that.

I'll keep peeps updated.


:cool:
 
why do people think whites are so successful?

most of these mofos dont have $50 to burn like any other ethnic group

if you know anything about white flight...it was government sponsored

they aint giving these niggas $50 just to be apart of some social media bs
 
I can't even remember my twitter or facebook password.:lol::lol::lol:

Ask me if I give a fuck.

people are wasting their lives away on the internet.
 
Nah, i don't think so. Too many opportunities on social media period to take off for the hills. They'll just a way around it like they always do. Create something new for themselves and hope its a while before we find it, too. LOL!
 
I can't even remember my twitter or facebook password.:lol::lol::lol:

Ask me if I give a fuck.

people are wasting their lives away on the internet.



Do you have any idea how many millionaires the internet has made?


At the America's Cup this wekend, all i saw was lambos and ferraris.

Your ass his been a consumer so long, all you see is the consumption side.


There is a lot of money to be made using the internet



McKinsey Says Social Media Could Add $1.3 Trillion to the Economy


And you thought Facebook’s valuation was big.

McKinsey Global Institute, the research arm of the business consulting giant, has just published a lengthy study on “unleashing value and productivity through social technologies.” The short version is that things like improved communication and collaboration from social media in four major business sectors could add $900 billion to $1.3 trillion in value to the economy.

The value is mostly through added productivity. Improved consumer focus as well as better-functioning teams are two other benefits. That is a great big number, likely to attract attention. McKinsey last did that in May 2011, with a report that said that by 2018 the United States could face a shortfall of 1.5 million data analysts and managers able to cope with the flood of data in their businesses.

The report adds credence to a recent flood of social media acquisitions from companies like Oracle, Salesforce and Microsoft. Big companies with large corporate customers have been spending billions on everything from better ways to manage how customers view them in chat rooms to internal communications software that looks and works like Facebook.

Social technologies like wikis, broadly accessible instant messaging, content searches and user forums, McKinsey says, are particularly effective among so-called interactions workers. These people are general managers, for example, but also consultative sales representatives, engineers working with teams to figure out new products, or health care workers personally figuring out patients’ needs.

Since they work with a lot of autonomy, but also in consultation with others, interactions workers benefit the most from knowing such things as which employees have the deepest knowledge in certain subjects, or who last contributed to a project, and how to get in touch with them quickly.

“The industries with the highest percentage of interactions workers have the highest spread of profits per employee,” said Michael Chui, one of the authors of the report. “It’s low in mining, but can vary by nine times more in banking. If you can make these people more effective, you can make the biggest difference.”

There are challenges to using social media effectively, the report says, and it could take years to put these productivity tools in place correctly. The main challenges are organizational and personal, as managers have to develop nonhierarchical cultures, where data and knowledge are exposed and shared, not hoarded.

“These technologies are successful when influential people are role models, using them and explaining them,” Mr. Chui said.

Uh-oh: once again, no matter how good the machines, people still have to be good, too. And that remains no simple matter.


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/mckinsey-says-social-media-adds-1-3-trillion-to-the-economy/
 
no.

too much money/opportunity in social media.



I think they are looking at "middle America" for cues



:lol:

I do think social media for the enterprise is the next large growth phase.

e.g. Threadsy, Wildfire, Yammer, Sense Networks etc....


:cool:
 
Do you have any idea how many millionaires the internet has made?


At the America's Cup this wekend, all i saw was lambos and ferraris.

Your ass his been a consumer so long, all you see is the consumption side.


There is a lot of money to be made using the internet



McKinsey Says Social Media Could Add $1.3 Trillion to the Economy


And you thought Facebook’s valuation was big.

McKinsey Global Institute, the research arm of the business consulting giant, has just published a lengthy study on “unleashing value and productivity through social technologies.” The short version is that things like improved communication and collaboration from social media in four major business sectors could add $900 billion to $1.3 trillion in value to the economy.

The value is mostly through added productivity. Improved consumer focus as well as better-functioning teams are two other benefits. That is a great big number, likely to attract attention. McKinsey last did that in May 2011, with a report that said that by 2018 the United States could face a shortfall of 1.5 million data analysts and managers able to cope with the flood of data in their businesses.

The report adds credence to a recent flood of social media acquisitions from companies like Oracle, Salesforce and Microsoft. Big companies with large corporate customers have been spending billions on everything from better ways to manage how customers view them in chat rooms to internal communications software that looks and works like Facebook.

Social technologies like wikis, broadly accessible instant messaging, content searches and user forums, McKinsey says, are particularly effective among so-called interactions workers. These people are general managers, for example, but also consultative sales representatives, engineers working with teams to figure out new products, or health care workers personally figuring out patients’ needs.

Since they work with a lot of autonomy, but also in consultation with others, interactions workers benefit the most from knowing such things as which employees have the deepest knowledge in certain subjects, or who last contributed to a project, and how to get in touch with them quickly.

“The industries with the highest percentage of interactions workers have the highest spread of profits per employee,” said Michael Chui, one of the authors of the report. “It’s low in mining, but can vary by nine times more in banking. If you can make these people more effective, you can make the biggest difference.”

There are challenges to using social media effectively, the report says, and it could take years to put these productivity tools in place correctly. The main challenges are organizational and personal, as managers have to develop nonhierarchical cultures, where data and knowledge are exposed and shared, not hoarded.

“These technologies are successful when influential people are role models, using them and explaining them,” Mr. Chui said.

Uh-oh: once again, no matter how good the machines, people still have to be good, too. And that remains no simple matter.


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/mckinsey-says-social-media-adds-1-3-trillion-to-the-economy/
Good one! :yes:
 
But this is for the general public not those who utilize SM for profit or promotion. The average user of SM is using it as a time suck not a means to supplement income.



There will always be sheep.


Keep focused on the shepherd.


:cool:
 
But this is for the general public not those who utilize SM for profit or promotion. The average user of SM is using it as a time suck not a means to supplement income.

well i think most professionals (of any race) use linkedin, facebook and twitter for biz at least some of the time. i dont mean for making money but just interacting with others.

i can see white people moving to another platform down the line. the timing is ripe for that but its not app.net and they arent gonna leave social media. they'll just leave one network for the next.

app.net is too geeky to cause a mass exodus though. i dont remember any social network that started out for geeks being the "next up". theres gotta be a feeling that the next thing is cooler than the last thing that gets people to move.
 
Do you have any idea how many millionaires the internet has made?


At the America's Cup this wekend, all i saw was lambos and ferraris.

Your ass his been a consumer so long, all you see is the consumption side.


There is a lot of money to be made using the internet



McKinsey Says Social Media Could Add $1.3 Trillion to the Economy


And you thought Facebook’s valuation was big.

McKinsey Global Institute, the research arm of the business consulting giant, has just published a lengthy study on “unleashing value and productivity through social technologies.” The short version is that things like improved communication and collaboration from social media in four major business sectors could add $900 billion to $1.3 trillion in value to the economy.

The value is mostly through added productivity. Improved consumer focus as well as better-functioning teams are two other benefits. That is a great big number, likely to attract attention. McKinsey last did that in May 2011, with a report that said that by 2018 the United States could face a shortfall of 1.5 million data analysts and managers able to cope with the flood of data in their businesses.

The report adds credence to a recent flood of social media acquisitions from companies like Oracle, Salesforce and Microsoft. Big companies with large corporate customers have been spending billions on everything from better ways to manage how customers view them in chat rooms to internal communications software that looks and works like Facebook.

Social technologies like wikis, broadly accessible instant messaging, content searches and user forums, McKinsey says, are particularly effective among so-called interactions workers. These people are general managers, for example, but also consultative sales representatives, engineers working with teams to figure out new products, or health care workers personally figuring out patients’ needs.

Since they work with a lot of autonomy, but also in consultation with others, interactions workers benefit the most from knowing such things as which employees have the deepest knowledge in certain subjects, or who last contributed to a project, and how to get in touch with them quickly.

“The industries with the highest percentage of interactions workers have the highest spread of profits per employee,” said Michael Chui, one of the authors of the report. “It’s low in mining, but can vary by nine times more in banking. If you can make these people more effective, you can make the biggest difference.”

There are challenges to using social media effectively, the report says, and it could take years to put these productivity tools in place correctly. The main challenges are organizational and personal, as managers have to develop nonhierarchical cultures, where data and knowledge are exposed and shared, not hoarded.

“These technologies are successful when influential people are role models, using them and explaining them,” Mr. Chui said.

Uh-oh: once again, no matter how good the machines, people still have to be good, too. And that remains no simple matter.


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/mckinsey-says-social-media-adds-1-3-trillion-to-the-economy/

listen.
there is no denying you can make some serious money online, but you also need serious skill.

the days of making easy money on the internet are dead.
I've been on the internet since AOL was sending out those metal cans with their disk inside.

I can't tell you how many internet businesses I've had over the years. some made money and some didn't.

I'm currently working on my own video tutorial informational product. plan to set up my own affiliate program and everything.

Don't talk to me about making money online and I'm definitely not a consumer. like I said, I don't fuck with twitter or facebook. When I launch my product, I will definitely use them for marketing purposes, but I don't waste my time on social media like so many people do. That is what I mean by people wasting their life online.

to make money online today takes money and skill. You aren't just competing with Americans, you competing with India, Europe, and Asia.

it's easier to make $100 a day in the real world than it is to make it online. It is easier to meet a chick at at club, lounge, or bar than it is to do it online.
 
listen.
there is no denying you can make some serious money online, but you also need serious skill.

the days of making easy money on the internet are dead.
I've been on the internet since AOL was sending out those metal cans with their disk inside.

I can't tell you how many internet businesses I've had over the years. some made money and some didn't.

I'm currently working on my own video tutorial informational product. plan to set up my own affiliate program and everything.

Don't talk to me about making money online and I'm definitely not a consumer. like I said, I don't fuck with twitter or facebook. When I launch my product, I will definitely use them for marketing purposes, but I don't waste my time on social media like so many people do. That is what I mean by people wasting their life online.

to make money online today takes money and skill. You aren't just competing with Americans, you competing with India, Europe, and Asia.

it's easier to make $100 a day in the real world than it is to make it online. It is easier to meet a chick at at club, lounge, or bar than it is to do it online.



you sound dumb.

you should be establishing yourself in whatever field ur "video tutorial informational product" is in right now. you should be engaging people online and learning more about what they need which might help you improve your product. you should be all over social media setting yourself up to win. that trust takes time to develop. you dont just start out of nowhere when you have some shit to sell.
 
What happened next extended beyond Facebook. Indeed, everything from the recent U.S. Census stats to Nielsen mobile research shows that middle class whites are increasingly becoming the minority.

It seems inevitable that the first-class versus coach approach of dividing the world would extend to the web through the socialization of mostly middle-class white male developers — and the desires of similar consumers — shaping social media. The issue, therefore, is much greater than the App.net platform and its business model. A race and class-divided App.net would simply be a microcosm of the socio-economic imbalances that are omnipresent.





Ok, some questions based on the quoted above:

1. Whites are becoming the minority. Then why the fuck does the population who are going to become the majority step up their shit?

2. We do we continue to beg to be accepted?
Why can't we create our own social media tool reflecting us?

We create and innovate in music, sports, and other elements of culture that dominate internationally.

Why the fuck do we think we can't do that shit with technology?

:confused::confused::confused:
 
Whites will continue to run until there's no place for them to hide and then they really have to deal with minorities. What would they do then?
 
listen.
there is no denying you can make some serious money online, but you also need serious skill.

the days of making easy money on the internet are dead.
I've been on the internet since AOL was sending out those metal cans with their disk inside.

I can't tell you how many internet businesses I've had over the years. some made money and some didn't.

I'm currently working on my own video tutorial informational product. plan to set up my own affiliate program and everything.

Don't talk to me about making money online and I'm definitely not a consumer. like I said, I don't fuck with twitter or facebook. When I launch my product, I will definitely use them for marketing purposes, but I don't waste my time on social media like so many people do. That is what I mean by people wasting their life online.

to make money online today takes money and skill. You aren't just competing with Americans, you competing with India, Europe, and Asia.

it's easier to make $100 a day in the real world than it is to make it online. It is easier to meet a chick at at club, lounge, or bar than it is to do it online.




Who are you collaborating with in developing your product?

You is helping you refine your idea?

How are you testing your product right now to make sure there is product fit?

Are you building all your features in at the beginning?



:confused::confused::confused:
 
Whites will continue to run until there's no place for them to hide and then they really have to deal with minorities. What would they do then?




cave5.jpg
 
you sound dumb.

you should be establishing yourself in whatever field ur "video tutorial informational product" is in right now. you should be engaging people online and learning more about what they need which might help you improve your product. you should be all over social media setting yourself up to win. that trust takes time to develop. you dont just start out of nowhere when you have some shit to sell.

and you don't know what the fuck you talking about.

I'm going to show people results.
this isn't some get rich scheme.
this is real knowledge I'm going to give people.
 
$50 to get rid of ads :confused: But wouldn't this just open up more advertising dollars for other avenues other than the closed off communities like this that might spring up.

either we are fooling ourselves, or both sides are being dishonest....
 
$50 to get rid of ads :confused: But wouldn't this just open up more advertising dollars for other avenues other than the closed off communities like this that might spring up.

either we are fooling ourselves, or both sides are being dishonest....

think of it as cable of social networking.
 
I don't get this post. On one hand, you want us to have our own. Yet, when the white folks take flight, you lament their departure? Which one do you want?

For them to stay, and we all be social? Or do you want them to leave, resulting in us having our own social media environment. Although an abandoned one.
 
I don't get this post. On one hand, you want us to have our own. Yet, when the white folks take flight, you lament their departure? Which one do you want?

For them to stay, and we all be social? Or do you want them to leave, resulting in us having our own social media environment. Although an abandoned one.




That is what I got from this.


We are becoming a majority on social networks.

Wouldn't it be beneficial for us to create some shit?


Why beg because whites are leaving?

Are we not capable of holding our own?


:confused::confused::confused:
 
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