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Iraq draft constitution approved, officials say
Results from Oct. 15 referendum indicate 78.59 percent backed charter

The Associated Press
Updated: 12:01 p.m. ET Oct. 25, 2005


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq’s constitution was adopted by a majority in a fair vote during the Oct. 15 referendum, as Sunni Arab opponents failed to muster enough support to defeat it, election officials said Tuesday. A prominent Sunni politician called the balloting “a farce.”

The U.S. military announced the deaths of two Marines in fighting with insurgents last week in Baghdad, bringing to 1,999 the number of American service members killed since the war started in 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

The referendum results, announced after a 10-day audit following allegations of fraud, confirmed previous indications that Sunni Arabs failed to produce the two-thirds “no” vote they would have needed in at least three of Iraq’s 18 provinces to defeat the constitution.

The charter is considered a major step in Iraq’s democratic reforms, clearing the way for the election of a new, full-term parliament on Dec. 15. Such steps are important in any decision about the future withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.

However, some fear the victory, which came despite a large turnout by Sunni Arabs to try to defeat it, could enrage many members of the minority and fuel their support for the country’s Sunni-led insurgency.


'Very good job'
Carina Perelli, the U.N. elections chief, praised a “very good job” with the audit of results by election officials and said “Iraq should be proud of the commission.”

Iraq’s top two coalition partners, the United States and Britain, also welcomed the results.

“It’s a landmark day in the history of Iraq,” White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. “We congratulate the Iraqi people. ... The political process is continuing to move forward in Iraq, and it is an encouraging sign to see more and more people participating in the process.”

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Iraqis “have shown again their determination to defy the terrorists and take part in the democratic process.”

Two suicide car bombs exploded Tuesday in the generally peaceful Kurdish province of Sulaimaniyah, killing 12 people. Al-Qaida in Iraq, the country’s most feared insurgent group, claimed responsibility in a statement posted on an Islamic Web site.

Iraqi and U.S. forces, meanwhile, refortified a hotel complex where many Western journalists live in central Baghdad after three suicide car bombs exploded a day earlier. Deputy Interior Minister Maj. Gen. Hussein Ali Kamal told The Associated Press that 17 people were killed — mostly hotel guards and passers-by — and 10 wounded in the attack.

No significant fraud
Farid Ayar, an official with the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq, said the audit had turned up no significant fraud.

But Saleh al-Mutlaq, a Sunni Arab member of the committee that drafted the constitution, called the referendum “a farce” and accused government forces of stealing ballot boxes to reduce the percentage of “no” votes in several mostly Sunni-Arab provinces.

“The people were shocked to find out that their vote is worthless because of the major fraud that takes place in Iraq,” he said on Al-Arabiya TV.

Adnan al-Dulaimi, a spokesman for the General Conference for the People of Iraq, a largely Sunni coalition of politicians and tribal leaders, said the audit took so long it left many Sunnis suspicious of possible fraud and manipulation. But he said his group “will work to educate Iraqis and get them to participate in the December election.”

The charter was drafted after months of bitter negotiations that ended with some Sunni leaders agreeing to support it with provisions that future changes were possible.

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Guys , The - "a constitution" - is a meaningless fraud.
All FINAL!! decisions about Iraq emanate from the oval office in Washington DC.
The 100 Bremer orders ARE STILL IN EFFECT.

The news story about the Iraqi Orders has been virtually ignored by the U.S. press. The bush junta, via Paul Bremmer who was the head of the the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), the body that ran Iraq before the first puppet prime minister Ayad Alawi was installed issued 100 Orders that have been imposed on the people of Iraq by the U.S. government.
<font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000FF"><b>Click Orders below if you want to read all 100 Orders</b></font>

<b><h2><a target="_blank" href="http://www.iraqcoalition.org/regulations/#Orders"><u>Orders</u></a></h2> </b>- are Binding Instructions or directives to the Iraqi people that create penal consequences or have a direct bearing on the way Iraqis are regulated, including changes to Iraqi law.

These orders are sometimes referred to as the Bremmer Orders. No one in the U.S. or Iraq was ever allowed to cast a vote in the ballot box for any of these Orders. These Orders SUPERSED any Iraq Constitution.

Read the article below for a NON-PROPAGANDA Reality Check about what's really going on in with America's Imperial Occupation of Iraq</font>



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THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION: A Referendum for Disaster</font>

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by Phyllis Bennis
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• The constitutional process culminating in Saturday's referendum is not a sign of Iraqi sovereignty and democracy taking hold, but rather a consolidation of U.S. influence and control. Whether Iraq's draft constitution is approved or rejected, the decision is likely to make the current situation worse.

• The ratification process reflects U.S., not Iraqi urgency, and is resulting in a vote in which most Iraqis have not even seen the draft, and amendments are being reopened and negotiated by political parties and elites in Baghdad as late as four days before the planned referendum.

• The proposed constitution would strip Iraqis of future control over their nation's oil wealth by • The imposition of federalism as defined in the draft constitution undermines Iraqi national consciousness and sets the stage for a potential division of Iraq largely along ethnic and religious lines, with financial, military, and political power devolving from the central government to the regional authorities. All groups risk sectoral as well as national interests.

• Human rights, including women's rights, individual political and civil rights, economic and social • Instead of balancing the interests of Iraq's diverse population by referencing its long- dominant secular approaches, the draft constitution reflects, privileges and makes permanent the current occupation-fueled turn towards Islamic identity.

THE BOTTOM LINE

Constitutions can play a crucial role in founding and unifying new or renewing states; Iraq is no exception, and in the future drafting a constitution could play a key part in reunifying and strengthening national consciousness of the country. But this process has been imposed from outside, it is not an indigenous Iraqi process, and the draft constitution being debated is not a legitimate Iraqi product. Iraqis are still suffering under conditions of severe deprivation, violence, lack of basic necessities including clean water, electricity, jobs - crafting a new constitution does not appear high on their agenda.

The existing process of ratifying the new constitution is far more important to the Bush administration than it is to the majority of people of Iraq. Whether the proposed constitution is approved or rejected on Saturday, it is a process and a text largely crafted and imposed by U.S. occupation authorities and their Iraqi dependents, and thus lacking in legal or political legitimacy.

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The most important reality is that the draft does not even mention the U.S. occupation, and neither ratification nor rejection of it will result in moving towards an end to occupation. None of the broad human rights asserted in the draft include any call to abrogate the existing laws first imposed by Paul Bremer, the U.S. pro-consul, and still in effect.</span></font>

Whether it is accepted or rejected, it is likely to worsen the insecurity and violence facing Iraqis living under the U.S. occupation, and to increase the likelihood of a serious division of the country. If it passes, over significant Sunni (and other) opposition, the constitution will be viewed as an attack on Sunni and secular interests and will institutionalize powerful regional economic and military control at the expense of a weakened central government. Its extreme federalism could transform the current violent political conflict into full-blown civil war between ethnic and religious communities. If it fails, because Sunnis backed by significant secular forces, are able to mobilize enough "no" votes, the result could be a collapse of the current assembly's already weak legitimacy and capacity, and cancellation of the planned December elections. In either event, it is likely that resistance attacks will increase, not decrease. And certainly the greater violence of the U.S. military occupation will continue.

From the vantage point of the Bush administration, a "yes" vote, however slim the margin and however dubious the legitimacy, validates the claim that the occupation is setting the stage for "democratization" in Iraq; this explains the huge investment of money, political clout, and the personal involvement/interference of Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad in the drafting process. If the White House was looking for a fig leaf to cover troop withdrawals, this would be it. But there is no indication there is any such interest in beginning to bring the troops home, particularly since the referendum is unlikely to lead to any diminution of violence.

From the vantage point of the peace movement, the key issue, like that during the elections, remains that of Iraq's sovereignty and self-determination. Whatever we may think of this draft constitution, it has been essentially imposed on the Iraqi people by U.S. occupation authorities, and as such it is not legitimate. We may like parts of this draft, we may disagree with some future Iraqi-led constitutional process - but our obligation must be to call for Iraqis to control their own country and their own destiny. Once the U.S. occupation is over, and Iraqis reclaim their own nation, we will continue to build the kind of internationalist ties with women's, labor and other civil society organizations fighting for human rights in Iraq, as we have with partners in so many other countries. But while the U.S. occupation is in control, our first obligation is to work to end it.

THE REFERENDUM ON THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION

Saturday's referendum marks a key stage in the process of implementing the U.S.-designed, U.S.-imposed political process designed to give a "sovereign" gloss the continuing U.S. occupation. The process was set in place and pushed to completion by each successive U.S.-backed occupation authority in Iraq. Initial U.S. reluctance to hold early elections was overcome by pressure from Shia leader Ayatollah al-Sistani; while his support insured widespread Shia backing for the political process, it also guaranteed even greater opposition from Sunni and some secular forces.

The Bush administration has invested a huge amount of political capital in insuring the "success" of the constitution process, sacrificing for the actual content of the draft document to insure that something, almost anything, that could be called a constitution will be endorsed by a majority of Iraqis. The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, has played an active and coercive role in pushing Iraqi political forces to participate and make concessions, and in the actual drafting of the document. The U.S. goal is to justify the claim that Iraq is "moving towards democracy" and that the post-invasion, occupied reality of Iraq in 2005 is somehow equivalent to the experience of the United States at the time of the drafting of the U.S. constitution. While numerous politicians, pundits and mainstream journalists routinely refer to the constitution's approval as the "necessary step towards ending the U.S. occupation once and for all," it actually does nothing of the sort. Despite asserting the rhetorical claim of "sovereignty" and "independence" for Iraq, the constitution as drafted makes no mention of the U.S. occupation. Even the "transition" section, while insuring the continuation of the "de-Baathification" process, support for former political prisoners and victims of terrorist attacks, and other contemporary concerns, there is no mention of the presence of the 150,000 or so U.S. and coalition troops occupying the country, and certainly no call for them to go home. The U.S.-controlled political process violates the Geneva Convention's prohibitions on an occupying power imposing political or economic changes on the occupied country. At the end of the day, the constitution leaves the U.S. occupation intact and unchallenged.

THE VOTING PROCESS

There has been large-scale opposition to the draft constitution, particular from key elements of the Sunni population. In a U.S.-prodded effort to "get the Sunnis on board," changes were negotiated between one Sunni party and the constitutional committee. Just three days before the vote, on October 12, they agreed to two changes - allowing the constitution to be amended by the new parliament scheduled to be elected in December, and limiting the "deBaathification" process to those former members of the Baath party accused of committing crimes. The announcement may persuade some additional Sunnis to vote, rather than boycott, or even to support rather than reject the constitution. But the Iraq Islamic Party is only one, and by far not the most influential, of the many Sunni-dominated political forces in Iraq, and it is unclear how influential they are or how significant the changes will be.

LIKELY RESULTS

If the voting resembles something close to an accurate referendum ("free" and "fair" are not even possibilities, given the dominance of U.S. control of the drafting and conducting a vote under military occupation) the current draft constitution is likely, though not certain, to be approved by a small majority of Iraqi voters. It remains unclear, even with the new changes, whether the majority of the Sunni population will participate and likely vote "no" on the draft, or will boycott the referendum altogether. It also is uncertain how many secular Iraqis of all religions and ethnicities may reject the constitution. There are clear indications that most Iraqis believe the constitution has been drafted in a process from which they are largely excluded; international news outlets report that most had still not seen the text only days before the referendum.

CONTROL OF IRAQI OIL

The major debates between Iraq's ethnic and religious communities, as well as between secular and Islamic approaches, sidelined any debate over crucial economic, especially oil, policy decisions in the constitution. The draft asserts that "Oil and gas is the property of all the Iraqi people in all the regions and provinces," and that the federal government will administer the oil and gas from "current fields" with the revenues to be "distributed fairly in a matter compatible with the demographic distribution all over the country." But that guarantee refers only to oil fields already in use, leaving future exploitation of almost 2/3 of Iraq's known reserves (17 of 80 known fields, 40 billion of its 115 billion barrels of known reserves), for foreign companies - because the next section of the constitution demands "the most modern techniques of market principles and encouraging investment." Further, Article 11 states explicitly that "All that is not written in the exclusive powers of the federal authorities is in the authority of the regions." That means that future exploration and exploitation of Iraq's oil wealth will remain under the control of the regional authorities where the oil lies - the Kurdish-controlled North and the Shia-dominated South, insuring a future of impoverishment for the Sunni, secular and inter-mixed populations of Baghdad and Iraq's center, and sets the stage for a future of ethnic and religious strife.

While the specifics of oil privatization are not written into the text of the draft constitution, they are consistent with the proposed Iraqi laws announced in August 2004 by the U.S.-appointed interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. He called for private companies, including foreign oil corporations, to have exclusive rights to develop new oil fields, rather than the Iraqi National Oil Company, as well as at least partial privatization of the INOC itself, thus essentially selling off Iraq's national treasure to the highest foreign corporate bidder.

FEDERALISM

The division of Iraq into three major ethnically- or religiously-defined regions or cantons remains a long-standing fear of many Iraqis and many people and governments across the region and around the world, and the most important basis for opposition to the draft constitution. In historically secular Iraq, the shift in primary identity from "Iraqi" to "Sunni" or "Shia" (although Iraqi Kurdish identity was always stronger) happened largely in response to the U.S. invasion and occupation; it does not reflect historical cultural realities. The draft constitution promotes not just federalism as a national governing structure, but an extreme version of federalism in which all power not specifically assigned to the central government devolves automatically to the regional authorities - setting the stage for a potential division of Iraq largely along ethnic and religious lines. The draft anticipates a weak national government, with financial, military, and political power all concentrated within regional authorities. The proposed constitution states directly that all powers - military, economic, political or anything else - "except in what is listed as exclusive powers of the federal authorities" are automatically reserved for the regional or provincial governments. In all those areas of regional power, the provincial governments are authorized to "amend the implementation of the federal law in the region" meaning they can ignore or override any constitutional guarantee other than foreign affairs or defense of the borders.

Besides the economic/oil conflict, this means that regional (read: religious and/or ethnic) militias accountable to political parties and/or religious leaders will be given the imprimatur of national forces. The process has already undermined Iraqi national consciousness, and sets in place risks for both national and, ironically, sectoral interests affecting each of the groups - even the most powerful.

Shia -

Iraq's Shia majority (about 60%) are the dominant force in the existing government and security agencies, and in alliance with the Kurds, dominate the constitutional drafting process. The constitution is widely understood to favor their interests, and by instituting a semblance of majority rule and according to some sources by privileging religious power within the government and court systems, it does so. But despite recent turns towards religion, many Shia remain very secular, and not all Shia want to institutionalize religious control in either regional or national governments. The federalism provisions, including the potential to establish a Shia-dominated "super-region" in the nine oil-rich provinces of the south, is also a favorite among many Shia. However, the extreme federalism has the parallel effect of largely constraining Shia control to the southern areas (however oil-rich) where they form the largest majority population, thus limiting Shia influence in the country overall. Many Shia live in Baghdad (actually the largest Shia city in Iraq) and other mixed areas outside the southern Shia-majority region. The revered Shia leader, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, has spoken strongly against dividing Iraq, but the constitution sets the groundwork for exactly that.

Sunni -

Iraq's Sunni population is dominant in small areas in central Iraq including Baghdad and its environs. With the constitution's strong focus on building regional economic, political and military power, the Sunnis as a community stand to lose the most. With major economic power - read: control of oil income - resting with the regional governments, the Sunnis will suffer because the area they dominate in central Iraq is devoid of oil resources. (See "Control of Iraqi Oil" above.) Following the large-scale Sunni boycott of the June 2005 election, they are underrepresented in the national assembly, and have faced the largest proportion of exclusion from jobs, the military, and the government under the "deBaathification" process. Last-minute changes to the draft constitution, including limits on deBaathification may pacify some Sunni anger, but is unlikely to result in full-scale proportional involvement and empowerment in the post-referendum political processes.

Kurds-

Iraq's Kurdish population, about 20%, is largely (though not entirely) concentrated in the northern provinces. They have the longest history of a separate ethnic/religious identity of any of Iraq's major groups, and their search for independence or autonomy has long roots, strengthened by years of oppression by various central governments in Baghdad. Iraq's Kurdish leaders are the closest allies of the U.S. in Iraq, having provided support to the invasion and occupation even before the U.S. military attacks began. Because of U.S. protection during the 12 post-Desert Storm sanctions years, the Kurdish region also had access to more money (through an intentional distortion of the oil-for-food distribution of Iraq's oil funds), international ties through open borders to Turkey and beyond, and the development of U.S.- and other western-backed civil society institutions than any other sector of Iraq. They are by far the best prepared and the most eager for control of regional oil income (their zone includes rich northern oil fields, especially if they end up incorporating the once-Kurdish but now overwhelmingly mixed area around Kirkuk) and a weakened central government. Their regional militia, the pesh merga, are also by far the most powerful of any Iraqi military force. Some Kurdish forces, however, are already critical of the draft constitution because their oil-rich three-province region would be dwarfed by the even more oil-rich Shia-dominated nine-province region in the south.

Secular forces -

Along with Palestine, Iraq was historically the most secular of all Arab countries. The draft constitution, while vague in many details, certainly lays the groundwork for a far greater role for religious authorities in governmental and judicial institutions. Many secular Iraqis, as well as Christians, are dismayed by the privileging of Muslim clerics within the constitutional court, for example, as well as the regional empowerment that allows local/regional governments to choose sharia, or Islamic law, as the basis for some or all of its court jurisdiction rather than secular laws.

RELIGION AND HUMAN RIGHTS

Officially the draft constitution includes far-reaching protections of human rights, including a wide range of political and civil rights, and explicitly women's rights, saying that says Iraq will "respect the rule of law, reject the policy of aggression, pay attention to women and their rights, the elderly and their cares, the children and their affairs, spread the culture of diversity and defuse terrorism." Economic, social and cultural rights are explicitly protected in language far stronger than that of the U.S. constitution and Bill of Rights, or that of most other countries. But there is contradictory language as well. The draft states that "(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam. (b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy. (c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution."

Whether basic freedoms will trump Islam or vice versa, and crucially, who will decide, seems a dangerous risk. Ultimately, instead of balancing the interests of Iraq's diverse Muslim majority with its once-dominant secular, the draft constitution reflects, privileges and makes permanent Iraq's current occupation-fueled turn towards Islamic identity.


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Sunnis form alliance as US deaths mount

Sunnis form alliance as US deaths mount
By Michael Georgy and Waleed Ibrahim
2 hours, 32 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Sunni Arab leaders formed an alliance to fight Iraq's next elections on Wednesday, as the U.S. death toll marched past 2,000 and intensified pressure on Washington.

Three Sunni parties joined a coalition to contest the December 15 parliamentary poll, after fierce Sunni opposition narrowly failed to veto a new, U.S.-backed constitution in a referendum.

"We call upon all Iraqis to participate actively in the elections and not listen to calls for boycotts because they are harmful," the new alliance, called the Iraqi Accord Front, said in a statement.

The alliance of the Iraqi People's Gathering, the Iraqi Islamic Party and the Iraqi National Dialogue was the clearest sign yet that some Sunnis are turning to the ballot box after boycotting Iraq's last parliamentary vote in January.

U.S. and Iraqi officials are likely to welcome the move, but it is not clear if the group has much sway over hard-line Sunni insurgents waging a bloody campaign against the Shi'ite and Kurdish-led government and the U.S. occupying force protecting it.

The U.S. military, which on Tuesday marked the 2,000th American death since the 2003 invasion, on Wednesday announced another soldier had died, in a vehicle accident in southern Iraq.

The rise of the U.S. death toll has piled pressure on President George W. Bush to show progress in Iraq, with growing numbers of U.S. voters skeptical about the direction of the war.

The referendum result is one boost for Washington, opening the way for an election U.S. planners hope will mark Iraq's emergence as a stable ally capable of handling its own security, removing the need for U.S. troops.

Much depends on whether Sunnis -- who represent about 20 percent of the population -- are brought on board under a deal, brokered by U.S. diplomats days before the referendum, which opens the constitution to amendment by the new parliament.

FOCUS ON THE AMERICANS

Sunnis turned out in large numbers to vote against the constitution this month, but failed to muster the two-thirds majority "No" in at least three provinces necessary to veto the measure. Two provinces reached the mark; a third fell short.

Some Sunni leaders said their failure to block the constitution, which many fear hands permanent control of much of Iraq to the Shi'ite majority and its Kurdish allies, would spur a new political campaign to force Washington to withdraw.

"Our political program will focus more on getting the Americans out of Iraq," Hussein al-Falluji, a prominent Sunni who took part in talks on the constitution, told Reuters.

"Our message to the American administration is clear: get out of Iraq or set a timetable for withdrawal or the resistance will keep slaughtering your soldiers until Judgment Day."

News of the 2,000th U.S. death, which prompted memorials and anti-war protests in the United States, was met with grim satisfaction in some parts of Iraq dominated by the insurgency.

"This number shows the size of Iraq's heroic resistance which has embarrassed the Americans," said Suha Jabir, a 35-year-old housewife in Falluja, scene of some of the war's most ferocious battles between militants and U.S. troops.

Bush, speaking in 2,000th death was announced, rejected suggestions there might be a quick pullout: "This war will require more sacrifice, more time and more resolve."

DEADLINES AND DOUBTS

With a Friday deadline looming for parties and electoral coalitions to register on the ballot paper for the December 15 vote, Sunni leaders hope to develop a coherent political strategy although deep rivalries may undercut unity.

Saleh Mutlak of the Iraqi National Dialogue took a cautious view of the December polls, which will elect a full four-year parliament to replace the current transitional legislature.

"We want to go for the elections but it will be rather difficult because it will be hard to convince people about the benefits from the political process," said Mutlak.

"I think that the resistance will be more active and probably prevent us from joining the elections."

Sunni disillusion has been stoked by Saddam Hussein's trial on charges of crimes against humanity, which began last week. Saddam -- still regarded as a hero by some of his fellow Sunnis -- entered a not guilty plea and challenged the legitimacy of the court set up to try him.

On Wednesday, Saddam's defense lawyers said they were suspending all contact with the Baghdad court, fearing for their lives after the murder of a colleague last week.

It was unclear what impact the announcement would have on the case, which has been suspended until November 28. But it seemed certain to fuel doubts raised by human rights groups over the fairness of the proceedings.

Fear ran high in Baghdad, two days after a suicide bomb attack on a hotel complex used by foreign journalists. Responsibility was claimed by al Qaeda.

On Wednesday militants shot two bodyguards of Iraq's water minister and killed an official in the culture ministry.

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Iraq Sunnis look to December vote

Iraq Sunnis look to December vote
By Mariam Karouny
Sat Nov 26, 7:37 AM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - With less than three weeks to go before elections for a new parliament, Iraq's Sunni Muslim minority, once strong under Saddam Hussein, is doing everything it can to make sure it gets its tactics right.

In the last election in January, when a 10-month interim government was chosen, Sunni Arabs, who make up about a fifth of the population, either supported their leaders' call for a boycott or were too frightened by insurgent threats to vote.

The result was a disaster for the community.

Sunnis, who formed the backbone of the ruling classes under Saddam and for decades before that, were left with just a handful of seats -- 17 -- in the 275-member parliament.

By population, they might have expected to get 50 or more.

The poor showing left them with scant representation on the committee that drafted a new constitution, a document that ended up favoring the Shi'ite- and Kurdish-led government and was approved in a referendum last month.

The charter grants the Shi'ites and Kurds effective autonomy in northern and southern Iraq, where the country's oil wealth lies, leaving Sunnis in the center with no access to petroleum resources.

Analysts say the frustration that caused in turn fueled the insurgency, which is largely led by Sunni Arabs, either loyalists to Saddam or former members of his Baath party.

The next election on December 15 carries more weight than January's poll, since the government it produces will have a four-year mandate, and Sunni political leaders are determined to ensure they do not make the same mistake again.

"They see it as a challenge...they want to prove themselves," said Jaber Habib, a professor of politics at Baghdad University. "Sunnis will take part widely in this election. They want to prove their weight."

STILL DIVIDED

Iraq's Electoral Commission says registration is up in Sunni Arab areas since January's poll, and that was evident in October's constitutional referendum, when Sunnis voted in large numbers, narrowly failing to defeat the charter.

While many more Sunnis are expected to turn out on December 15, and they will probably have more representation in the next parliament, the community is still divided.

There are at least three major Sunni lists registered to run in the poll, including an Islamist, anti-occupation group called the Iraqi Accordance Front, a more secular, pro-insurgency alliance known as the Iraqi Front for National Dialogue, and a grouping that is both secular and opposed to the insurgency.

The variety and the different directions they are pulling in may split the Sunni vote.

"Running in different lists could affect the weight of the Sunni vote, it's true," says Abdul Hadi al-Zubaidi, a member of the Iraqi Accordance Front.

"But it is almost impossible to get all votes for one list, and what matters is that Sunnis are aware of the challenge and that they will rise up and vote."

Others say the variety is a sign of strength in that Sunnis are not running on sectarian lines, but on issues. It is the Shi'ites and Kurds, they say, who have built ethnic and sectarian blocs.

"It is a vote for Iraq, not for sects," said Salih al-Mutlak, the head of the Iraqi Front for National Dialogue.

"We want a national Iraq, not a sectarian one."

Either way, analysts say it probably will not matter. After the results are in, they expect Sunnis lists to unite as one block anyway in an effort to give the community clout.

"Sunnis will form alliances later, it doesn't matter if they are on different lists now," said Baghdad University's Habib.

"Even though they do not have a united leadership, they are all determined to make up for their absence at the last elections...Before, Shi'ites and Kurds proved their presence, now it is the Sunnis' turn."

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African Herbsman said:
This approval of the draft constitution has convinced me that the war was worth it. Syria and Iran here we come.

:rolleyes:

Gon hafta agree with you on this one. The thought of a Middle East without reglious fanatics makes this war worthwhile. Americans seem to forget that half the world lives on less than a dollar a day, that people blow themselves up for the promise of a better afterlife, we can't imagine the hopelessness that poverty delivers. Bush made a mess of this fight, too many deaths, but in the long run if the world can unite for prosperity and forget about ideological differences this fight was worth it.
 
nittie said:
Gon hafta agree with you on this one. The thought of a Middle East without reglious fanatics makes this war worthwhile. Americans seem to forget that half the world lives on less than a dollar a day, that people blow themselves up for the promise of a better afterlife, we can't imagine the hopelessness that poverty delivers. Bush made a mess of this fight, too many deaths, but in the long run if the world can unite for prosperity and forget about ideological differences this fight was worth it.
are you nuts?
Ayatollah Sistani runs Iraq and where is he from?
Iran ? highly doubt that one
Syria is much more open for it but I doubt the White House will do anything else.
 
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