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Seattle Times
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
The Associated Press
Saturday, April 1, 2006 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's military said Friday it successfully test-fired a missile not detectable by radar that can use multiple warheads to hit several targets simultaneously, a development that raised concerns in the United States and Israel.

The Fajr-3, which means "victory" in Farsi, can reach Israel and U.S. bases in the Middle East, Iranian state media indicated. The announcement of the test firing is likely to stoke regional tensions and feed suspicion about Tehran's military intentions and nuclear ambitions.

"I think it demonstrates that Iran has a very active and aggressive military program under way," State Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli said in Washington, D.C. "I think Iran's military posture, military development effort, is of concern to the international community."

Gen. Hossein Salami, the air force chief of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, did not specify the missile's range, saying how far it can travel depends on the weight of its warheads.

But state-run television described the weapon as "ballistic" — suggesting it is of comparable range to Iran's existing ballistic rocket, which can travel about 1,200 miles and reach Israel and U.S. bases in Iraq and the Persian Gulf region.

"Today, a remarkable goal of the Islamic Republic of Iran's defense forces was realized with the successful test-firing of a new missile with greater technical and tactical capabilities than those previously produced," Salami said on television, which showed a brief clip of the missile's launch.

"It can avoid anti-missile missiles and strike the target," the general said.

He said the missile would carry a multiple warhead, and each warhead would be capable of hitting its target precisely.

"This news causes much concern, and that concern is shared by many countries in the international community, about Iran's aggressive nuclear weapons program and her parallel efforts to develop delivery systems, both in the field of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.

"The combination of extremist jihadist ideology, together with nuclear weapons and delivery systems, is a combination that no one in the international community can be complacent about," Regev said.

Andy Oppenheimer, a weapons expert at Jane's Information Group, said the missile test could be an indication that Iran has the capability for multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV), which are intercontinental ballistic missiles with several warheads, each of which could be directed to a different target.

"From the description, it could be a MIRV. If you are saying that from a single missile, separate warheads can be independently targeted, then yes, this is significant," Oppenheimer said. "But we don't know how accurate the Iranians are able to make their missiles yet, and this is a crucial point."

"If the missile is adaptable for nuclear warheads, then they are well on the way," he added. "But they have not made a nuclear warhead yet. The current estimates are it could take five years."

Iran's existing ballistic rocket is called Shahab-3, which means "shooting star." It is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. Israel and the United States have jointly developed the Arrow anti-ballistic missile system in response to the Shahab-3.

Iran launched an arms-development program during its 1980-88 war with Iraq to compensate for a U.S. weapons embargo. Since 1992, Iran has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles and a fighter plane.

Salami, the Revolutionary Guards general, said Friday the Iranian-made missile was test-fired as large military maneuvers began in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. The maneuvers are to last a week and involve 17,000 Revolutionary Guards.

Also Friday, Iran's foreign minister said his country will not give up its right to develop nuclear know-how but sought to play down the possibility of a confrontation over it.

In speeches for international audiences Thursday and Friday, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki stepped back from the escalation promised earlier by Iran if its nuclear issue was taken up by the Security Council. On Wednesday, the council's 15 members demanded that Iran cease uranium enrichment within 30 days.

Although Mottaki made clear Iran had no plans to stop its enrichment, he said his country would not use oil as a weapon and that it would not withdraw from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.

He also renewed a proposal for an international nuclear fuel consortium in Iran to operate under strict supervision of the U.N.'s nuclear agency.

Information from the Los Angeles Times is included in this report.

Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002903594_missile01.html
 
This is over. If the U.S., U.N. or world community was going to act,
they would have done it by now.

The real question is why everyone has agreed to let Iran have the weapons they are developing.

And don't buy into the hype. Yeah everybody's talking about stopping Iran from getting weapons, but that window is quickly closing.
 
The Dark Mind said:
This is over. If the U.S., U.N. or world community was going to act,
they would have done it by now.

The real question is why everyone has agreed to let Iran have the weapons they are developing.

And don't buy into the hype. Yeah everybody's talking about stopping Iran from getting weapons, but that window is quickly closing.
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short of invading iran or nuking it there is no way to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Even with the new bunkerbusting bombs the US tested this week(get it? get the reason why Iran did this now?) the US and Israel know that they cant destroy all of Iran's nuclear facilities and any attacks will push the Iranians to further hide and speed up their efforts.

This is all smoke and mirrors- Iran isnt Iraq or North Korea. Iran would be US friendly if the US wasnt always trying to kill their democratically elected leaders and replace them with Shahs.
 
hoodedgoon said:
This is an april fools joke right? i mean the iranian missle program is not that advanced as yet.
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? read up its not a joke or a lie- this is in response to the US testing a new 700 ton bomb, a "bunkerbuster"
 
Russia may indeed be in on the plot to take over Iran and its resources...Iran is justifiably testing its defenses as would any country that felt threatened.

There is massive military activity in and around the Desoto National Forest of Mississippi. Local eye- witnesses tell of Red Dawn-like scenarios with foreign military forces conducting roadblock checkpoints. These photos were sent to Alex Jones by one of his radio listeners. This is obviously some type of detention/training camp for American and Eastern block forces. This story is developing - more details coming up.
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Front Entrance to SFOR Base. The speed limit sign is in kilometers, not miles.
(40 kilometers is around 25 M.
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Wide shot of the entrance to the camp. Notice the sign is in English and Russian (enlargement of sign below). The arrows point out concertina (razor wire), a weapons collections station and concrete barracudas.
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A slight zoom in on the sign at the entrance. Notice the text is in both English and Russian. English text reads: "SFOR Checkpoint"

SOURCE:http://www.infowars.com/detcamp.html
 
Iran Calls Test of "2nd New Missile" Successful

<font size="5"><center>Iran Calls Test of 2nd New Missile Successful</font size></center>


Apr 2, 10:41 PM (ET)
Associated Press
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S. over its nuclear program.

The tests came during war games that Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have been holding in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea since Friday.

On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads.

The new torpedo, called the "Hoot," or "whale," could raise concerns over Iran's power in the Gulf, a vital corridor for the world's oil supplies and where the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet is based. During Iran's war with Iraq in the 1980s, Iranian ships attacked oil tankers in the Gulf, and Iran and the U.S. military engaged in limited clashes.

Iran's state television stopped its normal programs to break news of the torpedo test, showing it being launched from a ship into the Gulf waters, then hitting its target, a derelict ship.

Gen. Ali Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude.

"It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape from this missile because of its high speed," Fadavi told state television.

The Hoot's speed would make it about three or four times faster than a normal torpedo and as fast as the world's fastest known underwater missile, the Russian-made VA-111 Shkval, developed in 1995. It was not immediately known if the Hoot was based on the Shkval.

The new weapon gives Iran "superiority" against any warship in the region, Fadavi said, in a veiled reference to U.S. vessels in the Gulf. It was not immediately clear whether the torpedo can carry a nuclear warhead.

Cmdr. Jeff Breslau, spokesman for the U.S. 5th Fleet based on the tiny Arab island nation of Bahrain in the Gulf, said no special measures were taken in reaction to the Iranian war games, even after the latest missile test.

He would not comment on whether the new torpedo represents a threat to American forces in the region.

"In general terms, no matter where we operate in the world, we're aware of other capabilities that exist and of other countries that aren't as friendly to the U.S., and we pay attention to those capabilities," he said.

The U.S. and Iranian navies have had brush-ups during the past - during the "Tanker War," when U.S. warships moved into the Gulf to guard oil tankers.

In 1988, the frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts was badly damaged by an Iranian mine. In response, the U.S. Navy launched its largest engagement of surface warships since World War II. Two Iranian ships were destroyed, and an American helicopter was shot down, killing the two pilots.

Iran is now trying to show its strength amid worries of U.S. military action over its nuclear program, which Washington says aims to produce nuclear weapons. Iran denies the accusation, saying it intends only to generate electricity.

The U.N. Security Council has demanded Iran give up uranium enrichment, a crucial part of the nuclear process. Washington is pressing for sanctions if Tehran continues its refusal to do so, though U.S. officials have not ruled out military action as an eventual option, insisting they will not allow Iran to gain a nuclear arsenal.

Iran's hard-line president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has warned that the United States will "suffer" if it takes action against its nuclear program. Some have seen that as a threat to increase militant action in the region or turn to the oil weapon, though Iranian oil officials have ruled out any squeeze in supplies.

Iran, which views the United States as an arch foe and is concerned about the U.S. military presence in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, says the maneuvers aim to develop the Guards' defensive capabilities.

The United States and its Western allies have been watching Iran's progress in missile capabilities with concern. Iran already possesses the Shahab-3 missile, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and hitting U.S forces in the Middle East.

The upgraded version of the ballistic Shahab-3 missile can travel about 1,200 miles, putting Israel within easy range.

Fadavi said Sunday's torpedo test was the outcome of six years of hard work at the Iranian Aerospace Industries, affiliated with the Defense Ministry.

More than 17,000 Revolutionary Guards forces are taking part in the weeklong maneuvers in the Gulf.

On Sunday, guards paratroops practiced a drop in an attack on a mock enemy position, and warships, jet fighters, helicopters and sophisticated electronic equipment were used in other exercises.

The television report said Sunday's war games included measures to respond to electronic jams caused by a mock enemy.

Iran has routinely held war games over the past two decades to improve its combat readiness and test locally made equipment such as missiles, tanks and armored personnel carriers.

Iran launched an arms development program during its 1980-88 war with Iraq to compensate for a U.S. weapons embargo. Since 1992, Iran has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles and a fighter plane.

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060403/D8GO8MU83.html?PG=home&SEC=news
 
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That's doesn't bother me very much since all this weapons play is largely political anyway. With Iran making this announcement, it will keep others with weapons home. Or, it will make other nations with cruise missiles re-calculate how much more more land area to include for total destruction in Iran if an when they try to jack another nation like Iraq tried to do with Kuwait. Iran's current leadership has already said that Israel should be wiped of the planet. This weapons annoucement probably moved up the timetable for when Israel and Iran do battle.

...And Israel already has Nukes and friends with Nukes.

-VG
 
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THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
04/05/2006

CAIRO, EGYPT

Iran has unveiled with great fanfare a series of what it portrays as sophisticated, homegrown weapons - flying boats and missiles invisible to radar, torpedoes too fast to elude.

But experts said Tuesday it appears much of the technology came from Russia or China and questioned Iran's claims about the weapons' capabilities.

Still, the armaments, tested during war games by about 17,000 Revolutionary Guards in the Persian Gulf, send what may be Iran's real message: its increased ability to hit oil tankers if tension with America turns to outright confrontation.

underline that message, the maneuvers - code-named "the Great Prophet" - have been held since Friday around the Strait of Hormuz, the 34-mile-wide entrance to the Gulf through which about two-fifths of the world's oil supplies passes.

The new weapons, many of them shown on Iranian state TV during their tests, have come with impressive claims:


<font size="6">∙</font size> A missile, the Fajr-3, that is invisible to radar and able to strike several targets with multiple warheads.

<font size="6">∙</font size> A high-speed torpedo, the Hoot, able to move at 223 mph, up to four times faster than a normal torpedo, and fired by ships cloaked to radar.

<font size="6">∙</font size> A surface-to-sea missile, the Kowsar, with remote-control and searching systems that cannot be scrambled.

<font size="6">∙</font size> A "super-modern flying boat," undetectable by radar and able to launch missiles with precise targeting while skimming low over the surface of the water at a top speed of 100 nautical mph.​

There are questions over Iran's claims. In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said "the Iranians have been known to boast and exaggerate" their weapons capabilities.

Others questioned if Iran developed the weapons on its own.

The Hoot torpedo - the name means "whale" - closely resembles the Russian-made VA-111 Shkval, the world's fastest-known underwater missile, developed in 1995, said Ruslan Pukhov of Moscow's Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

The Shkval attains high speeds by coating itself in a cocoon of air bubbles, reducing friction, and Pukhov said its technology was too sophisticated for the Iranians to produce themselves.

Pukhov noted the former Soviet republic of Kyrgyzstan once had a Soviet torpedo testing center on the remote mountain lake of Issyk-Kul. And he said that in the turmoil that followed the Soviet breakup, Kyrgyz authorities sold Shkvals to the Chinese.

Chinese officials had no immediate comment on whether their country provided Iran with Shkvals.

China has been pursuing closer relations with Tehran in hopes of help in meeting its energy needs, and the United States has sanctioned Chinese companies in the past, accusing them of violating international controls on transfers of weapons technology to Iran.

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The Telegraph
By Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor
(Filed: 05/04/2006)

A stealth flying boat, a radar-evading missile with multiple warheads, a rocket-torpedo and an anti-ship missile that cannot be jammed: with every day that passes, Iran announces a development in its military hardware.
The flurry of technological achievements, shown in grainy television footage, coincides with a large naval war-game in the Gulf codenamed "Great Prophet".

The exercises around the Straits of Hormuz, through which two fifths of the world's oil passes, are seen in the West as "sabre-rattling" as Teheran faces concerted international pressure to halt its widely suspected attempt to develop a nuclear arsenal.

Western Officiasl Say

Western officials say the Iranians are trying to tell the West - especially America and Israel:

- that they can strike back against any attempt to bomb their nuclear facilities.

Iran could, for example, try to disrupt the shipping of oil through the Gulf, and threaten Israel with a growing array of missiles.

"The aim is political and rhetorical rather than military," said one British source.

"I would not put any money on the Iranians' kit if it came to a contest with the American military." The clerical regime also wants to impress on the Iranian public that it remains powerful despite American attempts to destabilise it.

Moreover, it seeks to stoke national pride by claiming the weapons as home-produced, even though they are mostly based on Russian, Chinese and North Korean technology.​

The Israelis Say

"There is no doubt that there is a certain amount of bravado in what is coming out of Teheran," an Israeli official said. "But there is enough substance in some of the stuff they have been talking about for us to be concerned.

"We know that they have been working on multiple warheads. They are very serious about developing their delivery systems."

Iran Says

Iran announced last Friday that it had successfully test-fired a missile that could avoid detection by radar and deliver multiple warheads to hit several targets.

General Hossein Salami, the air force chief of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, hailed the development of the Fajr-3 (Dawn-3) missile as the achievement of "a remarkable goal".

Federation of American Scientists

But Ivan Oelrich, vice-president of the Federation of American Scientists, said:
"It is conceivable they have a multiple warhead capability but this is not very sophisticated. Though three missiles heading for the same target makes it harder for missile defence, the warheads will not have their own guidance systems and the missiles will carry a lower payload. It would be difficult to target effectively with them."​

On Sunday Iran announced another success: the launching of "the world's fastest underwater missile", travelling at about 195 knots, or three times faster than the fastest western torpedo.

The Russians Say

General Ali Fadavi, deputy naval commander of the Revolutionary Guards, said the weapon could overcome sonar systems because of its speed and its movement underwater. Weapons experts said it appeared to be a Soviet rocket-powered torpedo known as the Shkval.

However, it cannot track a target and has a range of less than four miles. A former commander of the Russian Black Sea fleet, Admiral Eduard Baltin, said Iran's torpedo announcement was little more than a bluff.

"Shkval has no target designation devices. That is, it is not a self-homing torpedo. Besides, it leaves a trail, which makes it easy to spot and destroy," he said.​

Undeterred, Iran yesterday announced the launch of a surface-to-sea missile known as the Kowsar. According to Iranian television, it can evade radar and its guidance system cannot be scrambled.

Television also showed footage of a "super-modern flying boat," a strange one-man craft that looks like a cross between a seaplane and a stealth fighter.

State television said that the single-propeller seaplane could launch a missile and "because of the hull's advanced design, no radar at sea or in the air can locate it".

The commander of the Revolutionary Guards, General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said Iranian forces were able to "confront any extra-territorial invasion".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...05.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/05/ixnewstop.html
 
Re: Iran Calls Test of "2nd New Missile" Successful

good post again que

iran isnt iraq - i don't think they'll go down as easily

the shit they have damn sure aint scuds
 
Im intrested to see how the media will spin this Iranians testing missles ish!!!

If your under 35 get ready to fight!!!!


TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran test fired nine long- and medium-range missiles on Wednesday, state media said, including one which it has said could reach Israel and U.S. bases in the region.


The tests occurred at a time of increased tension between Iran and Israel over Tehran's nuclear program, which the West fears is aimed at making bombs. Iran, the world's fourth-largest oil exporter, says its program is only for electricity.

A New York Times report in June said Israel had practiced an attack on Iranian nuclear sites, and the tension has rattled financial markets. U.S. and London Brent crude oil futures rose by more than a dollar on news of Iran firing the missiles.

"The aim of holding this maneuver is to show (Iran's) will and authority to the enemies that have threatened Iran with harsh language in recent weeks," state broadcaster IRIB quoted a Revolutionary Guards commander as saying.

"We ... launch these missiles in honor of Iran, to show that this is only a small part of Iran's capability and defensive power," said the commander, Hossein Salami.

Israel, believed to be the Middle East's only nuclear-armed power, has vowed to prevent Iran from acquiring an atomic bomb. The United States says it wants to resolve the dispute by diplomacy but has not ruled out military action.

"Israel does not threaten Iran, but the Iranian nuclear program combined with their aggressive ballistic missile program is a matter of grave concern." Mark Regev, spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said after the tests.

IRAN'S WARNING

An aide to Iran's Supreme Leader was quoted as saying on Tuesday the Islamic Republic would hit Tel Aviv, U.S. shipping in the Gulf and U.S. interests around the world if it was attacked over its nuclear activities.

State Press TV said the "highly advanced" missiles tested by the Guards included a "new" Shahab 3 missile, which officials have said could reach targets 2,000 km (1,250 miles) away.

The TV, which said the Shahab 3 carries a conventional warhead, showed images of missiles blasting off in the desert and leaving long vapor trails as they soared into the sky.

Other ground-to-ground missiles tested by naval and air units of the Guards were the Zelzal and Fateh, with respective ranges of 400 km and 170 km, state TV said.

Iran has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz if it comes under attack. About 40 percent of globally traded oil moves through the Gulf waterway.

Leaders of the Group of Eight rich countries expressed serious concern at the proliferation risks posed by Iran's nuclear program.

In a statement issued after G8 leaders met in Hokkaido, northern Japan, the grouping urged Tehran to suspend all uranium enrichment-related activities -- a step Iran has rejected.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said major world powers had decided to send European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana to Iran for talks on an incentives package they offered last month to induce Tehran to change its nuclear policy.

Sarkozy did not say when Solana would travel to Tehran. Iran formally replied on Friday to the offer by the United States, France, Britain, China, Russia and Germany.

France said Iran's response had ignored the world powers' demand that it suspend enrichment.

The U.S. dollar weakened on Wednesday and U.S. treasuries trimmed their losses over news of the missile tests.

(Writing by Fredrik Dahl and Edmund Blair, editing by Ralph Gowling)
 
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The Times (London)
May 20, 2009


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed today that Iran has successfully test fired a new medium-range missile capable of striking as far as Israel or southern Europe.

The Iranian President told a cheering crowd that the military had launched a <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">surface-to-surface missile called Sejil-2 which has a range of about 1,200 miles</span>.

“I was told that the missile is able to go beyond the atmosphere then come back and hit its target. It works on solid fuel,” Mr Ahamdinejad said during a speech in Semnan, northern Iran.

“The defence minister told me today that we launched a Sejil-2 missile, which is a two-stage missile and it has reached the intended target.”

The weapon is an updated version of the Sejil missile, which Iran said it had successfully tested late last year.

The announcement comes two days after President Obama said he would seek deeper international sanctions against Iran if it shunned American attempts to open talks on its controversial nuclear programme.

In the past, Iran has often boasted of developing new weapons systems, only to be met with scepticism from Western defence analysts.

Benjamin Netayahu, the new Israeli Prime Minister, has said that Iran’s missile technology combined with its nuclear programme pose the greatest threat the Jewish state has faced since its creation in 1948.

Iran insists that its nuclear programme is aimed solely at producing electricity for a growing population once its huge reserves of fossil fuels run out. Israel and other states suspect that it is a cover for attempts to create a nuclear weapon.

The UN Security Council has imposed three packages of sanctions against Iran after it ignored successive warnings to suspend uranium enrichment.

But Mr Ahmadinejad insisted once again today that Iran would not give in to any pressure over its nuclear programme. “They (Western governments) said if you don’t stop, we will adopt (sanctions) resolutions... They thought we would retreat but that will not happen,” he said. “I told them you can adopt 100 sets of sanctions, but nothing will change.”

Sejil, the name of the new missile, is a reference to the stones hurled by holy birds sent to defeat an army of elephants in the Koran.



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