Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's UN Convoy In New York.

1. Please don't discredit Al Gore because he proves your theory about Iraq wrong. If Bush lied, Gore and Clinton lied. Bottomline about that one.... For your viewing pleasure.... Al Gore "lying" about Iraq. http://youtube.com/watch?v=NVUO7voM-ns

2. So why look at it in a negative light then? I believe that this Iraq situation is an half full cup. Both parties know how important this situation actually is.

3. The threat most of our allies with oil "saudi, jordan, israel, and egypt" possibly uniting the Arab world. Starting World War 3, ect.....

OH YEA $6 a gallon gas....

Ok they lied...you surprised??.....Clinton,Gore and Bush all lied so it makes them......right??..I don't see any of the current candidates as capable of doing any better. It's either withdraw or kill them all.

The U.S. seems to be doing a good job of alienating them already. "Our" allies are dumping the dollar and Saudi is now accepting other currencies for oil. Hmmm nice allies "we" have.

Ok lets do it your way. Attack. Whats your theory on how high the price of gas will be then....10$ gal. 15$..??????
 
Ok they lied...you surprised??.....Clinton,Gore and Bush all lied so it makes them......right??..I don't see any of the current candidates as capable of doing any better. It's either withdraw or kill them all.

The U.S. seems to be doing a good job of alienating them already. "Our" allies are dumping the dollar and Saudi is now accepting other currencies for oil. Hmmm nice allies "we" have.

Ok lets do it your way. Attack. Whats your theory on how high the price of gas will be then....10$ gal. 15$..??????

dude lets get real. Other countries are jealous of us. So that explain our place in the world.

The point why I keep bringing certain democrats is to show that the same people who said this war is unjust, wanted this war. I think everyone needs to reevaluate who is really lying to us. I find it hard that the same people who claim Bush is lying, openly argue the fact that we needed to go to war in the 1990's. Maybe Bush was right for a change. Who would ever thought!?!?!?!
 
" . . . other countries are jealous of us . . . that explains our place in the world." What does that sound like? . . . <thinking to myself> . . . They hate our freedoms?

On Buzz words and catch phrases. QueEx definitions: Words and phrases used to rally boyscouts, girlscouts, youth football teams, high school football teams, college football teams, pro football teams, family reunions, nations, etc., around a single and unifying cause; rally cry; words and phrases skillfully used to create an us against them atmosphere; in religion, used to create good vs. evil analogies.

On Buzz words and catch phrases in relation to truth. QueEx explanation: such words and phrases may or may not have some relation, a lot of relation or no relation to the truth; they are useful because of their value in rallying people to the cause, but may often obscure the true realities, Example - "we're the mighty Giants, we're the mighty Giants, we cannot be defeated, we cannot be defeated" -- when in truth the giants have yet to win a game and their offensive and defensive lines are mere weaklings. David slew Goliath, so there may be some truth to "we're the mighty Giants", but its far from an accurate description of the Giants, but so what, if it pumps them up, "Mission Accomplished."

Moral of the Story. Don't get caught up in buzz words and catch phrases because they are often misleading, obscure the truth and allegiance to them without studying them can cause you to be mislead, misunderstood or an idiot.

QueEx
 
" . . . other countries are jealous of us . . . that explains our place in the world." What does that sound like? . . . <thinking to myself> . . . They hate our freedoms?

On Buzz words and catch phrases. QueEx definitions: Words and phrases used to rally boyscouts, girlscouts, youth football teams, high school football teams, college football teams, pro football teams, family reunions, nations, etc., around a single and unifying cause; rally cry; words and phrases skillfully used to create an us against them atmosphere; in religion, used to create good vs. evil analogies.

On Buzz words and catch phrases in relation to truth. QueEx explanation: such words and phrases may or may not have some relation, a lot of relation or no relation to the truth; they are useful because of their value in rallying people to the cause, but may often obscure the true realities, Example - "we're the mighty Giants, we're the mighty Giants, we cannot be defeated, we cannot be defeated" -- when in truth the giants have yet to win a game and their offensive and defensive lines are mere weaklings. David slew Goliath, so there may be some truth to "we're the mighty Giants", but its far from an accurate description of the Giants, but so what, if it pumps them up, "Mission Accomplished."

Moral of the Story. Don't get caught up in buzz words and catch phrases because they are often misleading, obscure the truth and allegiance to them without studying them can cause you to be mislead, misunderstood or an idiot.

QueEx

So let me get this straight, because I haven't found the "truth" as you see it, I haven't fully research my beliefs?

My point about other countries relationship with the U.S. is fully documented. A lot of people resent the fact that we have a flowing economy. You mean to tell me that countries like France, Germany, and Russia *who had a mighty military* don't resent that fact that the U.S. has the greatest military in world history? I guess I'm just imagining all of this...
 
dude lets get real. Other countries are jealous of us. So that explain our place in the world.

The point why I keep bringing certain democrats is to show that the same people who said this war is unjust, wanted this war. I think everyone needs to reevaluate who is really lying to us. I find it hard that the same people who claim Bush is lying, openly argue the fact that we needed to go to war in the 1990's. Maybe Bush was right for a change. Who would ever thought!?!?!?!

Your reality appears to be on the same level as Bush/Cheney.
They hate us because of our freedom :lol:
How does that explain "our' place in the world?

Ok once again are you saying because Clinton/Gore wanted to start an unjust unwarranted war therefore Bush/Cheney is right to do the same?
 
Hell, I thought I knew what he was saying;
but the more I think like him to understand what he's saying;
the more I start to think like him; and
the more I think like him;
the less I understand what the hell I'm saying.

:lol:
 
The myth of the all-powerful Ahmadinejad


Asia Times
By Philip Giraldi
October 5, 2007


In the wake of Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad's much-publicized visit to New York, we are hearing renewed calls for a "tough on Iran" agenda. But before Washington makes policy on the basis of his bizarre and often offensive statements, they should consider one important fact: his actual authority as Iranian president is very limited.

Contrary to the assertions of Columbia president Lee Bollinger last week, Ahmadinejad is no "petty and cruel dictator". He is an elected president with very little power, frequently at odds with the country's religious leadership and its Parliament. Even if Iran had a nuclear arsenal, which it does not, his finger would not be on the trigger. Ahmadinejad is extremely unpopular for a variety of reasons; if he runs for president again in 2009, he will almost certainly be defeated. He does not command the Iranian armed forces and he does not determine Iranian foreign policy. Far from being a belligerent expansionistic power, the last time Iran attacked a neighbor was in the 17th century.

This is not to say that the United States does not have genuine issues with Iran. They include containing Iran's nuclear ambitions, determination of its legitimate and possibly illegitimate roles in neighboring Afghanistan and Iraq, reducing its involvement with groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, and improvement of its generally unsatisfactory human rights record. All of those bones of contention should be on the negotiating table with the ultimate objective of encouraging a peaceful and democratic Iran that has full and normal relations with all other countries, including the United States. But the George W Bush administration has preferred the stick to the carrot, starting with consigning Iran to the "axis of evil" in January 2002.

The White House currently insists that it is exercising the diplomatic option with Iran, even though it is not. Bilateral sessions in Baghdad have consisted of little more than staking out adversarial positions. The United States is demanding that Iran suspend its nuclear enrichment program as a precondition for serious negotiations, but Iran is legally entitled to carry out enrichment as part of an energy program and both the Iranian public and the government are strongly supportive of that right. The US insistence on Iranian capitulation in advance of any talks means that the negotiations are intended to be a non-starter, leaving only a military solution to the Iran problem.

Many of the claims of Iranian interference in Iraq and Afghanistan are based on unverifiable assertions by the US Defense Department or have been contradicted by the Iraqi and Afghan governments, both of which insist that they have positive working relationships with Tehran. Iran has every reason to favor a stable Afghanistan and Iraq in terms of its own self-interest. While Iranian military equipment has shown up in Afghanistan and Iraq, there is no real evidence of Iranian government involvement due to the large gray and black arms market in central Asia.

Nor is there any solid information at the present time suggesting that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, even though the intelligence services of a number of countries agree that there most probably is a concealed program. Most analysts agree that an Iranian produced crude nuclear device is years away and may never be achievable given the technological problems that Tehran has reportedly been experiencing. US media reports and commentary by American politicians suggesting that Tehran has been actively targeting American soldiers and is hellbent on becoming a nuclear power should be examined carefully and skeptically.

And it is particularly unfortunate that Congress has proven unwilling to do anything to slow the march to war. The passage of a more punitive Iran Sanctions Act in July, coupled with last week's approval by a 77 to 22 Senate vote of the Kyl-Lieberman amendment to the Defense Procurement bill, have provided a virtual carte blanche for the White House to attack Iran at will.

Kyl-Lieberman called for classifying the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps as a terrorist group and provided the White House with language to justify the use of military force against Tehran. The unwillingness of the Senate and House to insist on a bill forbidding a new war without Congressional approval demonstrates that Democrats and Republicans alike have difficulty in seeing past Ahmadinejad to consider the genuine downside that would result from another conflict in the Middle East.

Philip Giraldi, a former Central Intelligence Agency officer, is the Francis Walsingham Fellow for the American Conservative Defense Alliance.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ05Ak01.html
 
Re: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a blog?

I'm going to check out. See if he lets loose with any info we're not getting over here.

The only problem is I KNOW that any american IP address that hits that site is gonna be tagged and monitored.
 
Re: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a blog?

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Iran's president speaks at UN
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Its That Time Again ! ! !

The 66th session of the General Assembly at the United Nations

and Ahmadinejad is in New York and

will address the General Assembly shortly





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