IRAN: Obama's headache

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whats to be done? any ideas?


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Mind you Iranians are not ARABS....=they are PERSIANS and not as dumb as Arabs...
 
The Iranian president already reached out to Obama to sit down and discuss things in a diplomatic fashion. Iran never had issues with the US. The US(due to these fake ass Jews) and Israel keep finding ways to bring tension between the two.

I hope Obama lives up to his moniker to bring about diplomatic resolutions to our foreign affairs.
 
The Persian people of Iran seem to want to be cool with the US. There was a time when it was said that 'the lengths of the skirts in Tehran are shorter than in Paris' or something to that effect. But, the hard line Muslim Theocracy in power wants to part of that. They are still on some death to Israel death to America stuff.
 
The Iranian president already reached out to Obama to sit down and discuss things in a diplomatic fashion. Iran never had issues with the US. The US(due to these fake ass Jews) and Israel keep finding ways to bring tension between the two.

I hope Obama lives up to his moniker to bring about diplomatic resolutions to our foreign affairs.


He wanted Obama to apologize for the past wrongs of the U.S. and make a drastic change to U.S. foreign policy.

He wants to bring Obama down to his level as if they are equals. Obama is not the equal of any other head of state, and should project American power accordingly.

I say fuck him and hopefully a moderate, who is really willing to do business, wins the election in June.
 
y'all realize the reason why we have so many enemies in the middle east is because of Israel, thats where the problem lies
 
Why is this Obama's headache?

And you know them Rednecks don't know the difference between Persian, Arab and Indian.

I heard lots of Whites are becoming either Libertarians or are talking about starting a new party now since The Michael Steele / Piyush Jindal thing.
 
y'all realize the reason why we have so many enemies in the middle east is because of Israel, thats where the problem lies

Peace,

It's not just Israel. The US has been jockeying for position in that part of the world for decades. With regard to Iran in particular, the US and Britain helped overthrow a democratically elected Prime Minister in the early '50s. Some of the shit that we've pulled is completely divorced from Israel.
 
Why is this Obama's headache?

And you know them Rednecks don't know the difference between Persian, Arab and Indian.

I heard lots of Whites are becoming either Libertarians or are talking about starting a new party now since The Michael Steele / Piyush Jindal thing.

Peace,

Yeah the actions of the Repubs would be comical if they weren't so pathetic. I guess they're forgetting that part of the populist appeal of the conservative movement was that it was anti-minority.
 
Obama now has to clean up what Bush had started with the 'Axis of evil' speech. No surprise if the jewish lobby in the US are badgering him to do something about Iran.
 
He wanted Obama to apologize for the past wrongs of the U.S. and make a drastic change to U.S. foreign policy.

He wants to bring Obama down to his level as if they are equals. Obama is not the equal of any other head of state, and should project American power accordingly.

I say fuck him and hopefully a moderate, who is really willing to do business, wins the election in June.
Iran wants the following:

1) Internal security they worry about their own Kurds and Sunni;

2) Stability in Iraq;

3) A better price for its oil and orderly markets;

4) An Iranian Empire maintaining Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, the Gulf, and Gaza as part of their sphere of influence without pushing for a Shia society which would cause civil wars;

5) Control of Mecca where Shia have always been second class citizens perhaps power sharing with the Saudis;

6) Respect and equality among the nation

and i can confirm their strategy is working with soft power...if you wanna believe me the go to Kabul and look at US/BRITISH embassies and then take a look at Iranian embassy from outside you will see Iranians have picnics in the open every weekend while the other two are stuck in concrete blocks
 
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Israel aint doing shit
Bebe won't do shit before talking to Obama- he has no bunker busters and no way to stop the Iranian nuclear program.

Iran will have nuclear power and the bomb if it wants it. No sanctions will happen cuz China and Russia will vote against it.
Only real option is normalized relations and Iran will change to a different reactor type to make people feel better. Peace with Syria is coming. Obama said he wouldn't help Israel with Iran unless they get their act together on the 2 state solution.
If Israel attacks Iran we're gonna sucked into some total bullshit. I dont see Obama being weak enough to let it happen but you never know.
 
might not be as a headache as we previously thought


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They are going to elections on friday and there are 2 theories. One is that Khameini is backing Ahmedinajad (he always has) and his old rival Rafasjani (who was beaten by Ahmedinejad in the last election) is backing Moussavi. The other is that Khameini has been persuaded to drop Ahmedinejad and the leadership is just changing over to a more liberal figurehead.
 
Israel aint doing shit
Bebe won't do shit before talking to Obama- he has no bunker busters and no way to stop the Iranian nuclear program.

Iran will have nuclear power and the bomb if it wants it. No sanctions will happen cuz China and Russia will vote against it.
Only real option is normalized relations and Iran will change to a different reactor type to make people feel better. Peace with Syria is coming. Obama said he wouldn't help Israel with Iran unless they get their act together on the 2 state solution.

If Israel attacks Iran we're gonna sucked into some total bullshit. I dont see Obama being weak enough to let it happen but you never know.


Good analysis there bro,

Just to add, i just hope Obama has some intelligent folks running the state dept and CIA. At the moment Iran as engaged in a soft takeover of the Middle East - it now controls a significant portion of Iraq, is extending influence over Jordan and Egypt, and has the ability to wreak havoc over the entire Middle East.


I think Bush destroying Iraq was the greatest strategic blunder Americans has ever made, and its in the best interest for America now ally itself with Iran instead of continually goading it.


Just like what Fareed Zakaria said few weeks ago in a header of Newsweek magazine, America's first problem in dealing with Iran is that they don't understand it. Its population growth has fallen from since mid 80's, only slightly higher than the U.S. Further, its religious parties generally only receive about 10% of the vote. Iran's current belligerence can be traced not to innate aggression, but the fact that wars are being fought on two of its borders. American are not hated in Iran - just that it occupy large portions of the Middle East.


Iran got the confidence that it can beat the West from its 1982-2000 experience in Lebanon, when its proxy Hezbollah forced the Israelis to retreat. The recent elections in Lebanon were pretty much bought by USA,SAUDIS& ISRAEL..(Lebanese in the diaspora were paid up to $25,000 to go back andvote for anti-Hezbollah parties)


As we speak now here in BGOL Iranian surrogates have already started to take control of Iraq's oil by stealing hundreds of thousands of barrels/day, as well as getting Iraq's Shia oil minister to cancel Kurds' oil contracts because Iran does not want to strengthen that group.


We also know that Saddam's T-72 tanks and helicopters were all that kept him from falling; without those resources, whatever regime replaces him will not be able to hold the nation together. The U.S. further acerbated control problems by allowing Iran to take over from moderate Shia clerics via assassinations and taking over various sect bank accounts.


I also agree with you above assessment that Iran has armed itself via fire-sale prices from Russia - new and refurbished tanks with heat-seeking missiles, MIG-29s with accompanying missiles, and Chinese missiles. Much of this armament is buried underground. Fiber-optic cable technology that can't be intercepted is used for communications, and of course they are well known for having learned to create EFPs (explosively formed penetrators). Finally, in 2007 Iran sent emissaries to all Gulf states telling them that if the U.S. attacks us we will destroy your oil facilities. Thus, Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons to play an important role.

So i still think Obama has to be smart and understand who he is dealing with here and tread very careful and if it means he says fuck off to Mushavi and those moderates then be it...
 
any deal that still allows them to enrich uranium isn't much of a deal.
just a waste of gotdamn time.
 
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