Industry rule number 4,080 Record company people are shaaadyyy!!! Universal’s new contracts will make it more difficult for artists to rerecord their

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Universal Music Group is modifying its contracts to extend the period in which an artist can rerecord their music, The Wall Street Journal reported. The move comes after the success of Taylor Swift’s rerecorded albums and the music label’s effort to gain more rights from artists who decide to rerecord their work.

Before, a standard contract stated that an artist couldn’t rerecord their work five years after their last delivered recording or two years after the end of their contract term, whichever is later. The new format increases the time after recording to seven years and the time after a contract term to five years, WSJ says.

Swift owns the music composition rights to her music. Her first label, Big Machine Records, sold the rights to her master recordings (the final version we hear) to an investment firm in 2019. Her masters were reportedly later sold to an investment fund for over $300 million in 2020, which was also around the time she was free to rerecord her music. So far, she has rerecorded and released her 2008 album Fearless and her 2012 album Red, with “(Taylor’s Version)” in the album title to distinguish ownership.

Music labels have gradually been losing their grip on their power and influence on the music industry with the rise of music streaming platforms like Apple Music and Spotify. One impact of music streaming platforms in the industry is a change in the way business is done because artists can release and promote their own work without the help of a label.

This change will prevent an artist from creating competition during the recording’s biggest monetization period within the first 10 years, the WSJ says.

Universal’s change is likely to set a standard for other recording companies. With artists who are wanting to start out, this is another consideration for how they interact with labels and their work.


 
Aka the labels got big mad that a artist found a loophole around their fuckery so now must add a new fuckery clause so artist can’t outsmart them again
I agree but its not so much a loophole as it is aggressively playing the rules set by the contract... the time period passed and she's free to rerecord her shit...its not unique...others have done that most notably prince with 1999 and JoJo is another singer who has to re-recording her music after a long fight with her record label:

Because she didn’t own the masters to the original two albums. Her old label Blackground basically went defunct, and they didn’t negotiate any streaming deals with the streaming giants, so the music was basically tucked away. Since JoJo’s first two albums weren’t on any streaming services and weren’t getting radio play, she nor the people involved in making them weren’t paid any royalties for over a decade. Even if the albums had been available for streaming, JoJo still wouldn’t have had much control since she didn’t own the masters. When JoJo re-recorded her masters, she and the people involved were able to start making money off of her music again, since these versions were on streaming services. For all those years JoJo wasn’t free of her contract, she made most of her money off of live performances, and she was funding the mixtapes she released over those years. She had a deal with Atlantic Records some years back, but she left that deal, and now releases music under her own label imprint, Clover Music. As she should. After that nightmare of a legal battle for a decade, she’s better off doing her own thing.

Anita Baker is another one who played the game by their rules and the label is STILL giving her shit for it..



dude these evil motherfuckers make up and change rules as they go along and its all driven by greed and as a society we NEVER call them on their shit for it.
 
I agree but its not so much a loophole as it is aggressively playing the rules set by the contract... the time period passed and she's free to rerecord her shit...its not unique...others have done that most notably prince with 1999 and JoJo is another singer who has to re-recording her music after a long fight with her record label:

Because she didn’t own the masters to the original two albums. Her old label Blackground basically went defunct, and they didn’t negotiate any streaming deals with the streaming giants, so the music was basically tucked away. Since JoJo’s first two albums weren’t on any streaming services and weren’t getting radio play, she nor the people involved in making them weren’t paid any royalties for over a decade. Even if the albums had been available for streaming, JoJo still wouldn’t have had much control since she didn’t own the masters. When JoJo re-recorded her masters, she and the people involved were able to start making money off of her music again, since these versions were on streaming services. For all those years JoJo wasn’t free of her contract, she made most of her money off of live performances, and she was funding the mixtapes she released over those years. She had a deal with Atlantic Records some years back, but she left that deal, and now releases music under her own label imprint, Clover Music. As she should. After that nightmare of a legal battle for a decade, she’s better off doing her own thing.

Anita Baker is another one who played the game by their rules and the label is STILL giving her shit for it..



dude these evil motherfuckers make up and change rules as they go along and its all driven by greed and as a society we NEVER call them on their shit for it.


dam. sad to see artists ask people to noy listen to their music
 
I don't understand why people fuck with record contracts anymore.

Everyone seems to have this fantasy about the starving artist that waits tables all day and plays and two-bit clubs all night. One day the record company realizes their untapped potential swoops in like a guardian angel and makes all their dreams come true.

It doesn't really work that way. Never has.

Real professional musicians make their money selling beats, playing sessions, touring with other musicians, teaching lessons and hundreds of other ways. You can make a comfortable living without even looking for a record contract.

However, if you do get offered in a record contract you can negotiate far better terms because they need you more than you need them.

Also, it's not the 1980s anymore. Recording what album is way more affordable and accessible than ever before. You don't need a company to give you a horribly one-sided loan to make it happen.
 
Aka the labels got big mad that a artist found a loophole around their fuckery so now must add a new fuckery clause so artist can’t outsmart them again
It is not fuckery at all. The record label fronted all the cash and owns the music. The record labels also absorbed all the risk.

There is not a business in the world where someone fronts all the cash in an investment and not recoup the majority of the funds back
 
I don't understand why people fuck with record contracts anymore.

Everyone seems to have this fantasy about the starving artist that waits tables all day and plays and two-bit clubs all night. One day the record company realizes their untapped potential swoops in like a guardian angel and makes all their dreams come true.

It doesn't really work that way. Never has.

Real professional musicians make their money selling beats, playing sessions, touring with other musicians, teaching lessons and hundreds of other ways. You can make a comfortable living without even looking for a record contract.

However, if you do get offered in a record contract you can negotiate far better terms because they need you more than you need them.

Also, it's not the 1980s anymore. Recording what album is way more affordable and accessible than ever before. You don't need a company to give you a horribly one-sided loan to make it happen.
if it were that simple then everyone would have a great deal... :smh: :smh: :smh:
 
I don't understand why people fuck with record contracts anymore.

Everyone seems to have this fantasy about the starving artist that waits tables all day and plays and two-bit clubs all night. One day the record company realizes their untapped potential swoops in like a guardian angel and makes all their dreams come true.

It doesn't really work that way. Never has.

Real professional musicians make their money selling beats, playing sessions, touring with other musicians, teaching lessons and hundreds of other ways. You can make a comfortable living without even looking for a record contract.

However, if you do get offered in a record contract you can negotiate far better terms because they need you more than you need them.

Also, it's not the 1980s anymore. Recording what album is way more affordable and accessible than ever before. You don't need a company to give you a horribly one-sided loan to make it happen.

Do you have any actual music industry experience?
 
You really don’t need them anymore because everything is digital so they don’t need to charge you out the ass to press up music. YouTube and Spotify got random no name people making cake. Fuck a label.
 
It is not fuckery at all. The record label fronted all the cash and owns the music. The record labels also absorbed all the risk.

There is not a business in the world where someone fronts all the cash in an investment and not recoup the majority of the funds back

Its weird how folks don't understand the record label is the company and the artists is the employee.
 
Do you have any actual music industry experience?

Yes!

I made beats for head nod records in Seattle. Was signed to sugar shack publishing as a rapper. Eventually Co-ran their publishing and got placements for the hip hop group social deviantz on the TV show The L word.

For the last 10 years I've been DJing in San Francisco playing some of the biggest venues and events in the city.
 
Yes!

I made beats for head nod records in Seattle. Was signed to sugar shack publishing as a rapper. Eventually Co-ran their publishing and got placements for the hip hop group social deviantz on the TV show The L word.

For the last 10 years I've been DJing in San Francisco playing some of the biggest venues and events in the city.

Oh cool..

Then you'd know that your comment about simply negotiating a better deal is a bit far fetched & is extremely rare. For every ONE person in history that's negotiated an advantageous deal there are a gazzillion more who get the usually screw over with no grease. Record companies & casinos are one in the same, set up for the house to win with an occasional payout to keep the fools rushing in..lol
 
no..artists are just the ones EVERYONE is paying to see... please tell me how many sold out shows would scooter braun or clive davis get if they headlined at MSG??

I'll wait....:rolleyes:
You missed the entire point. Artist are employed by the label.

What you stated was irrelevant
 
It is not fuckery at all. The record label fronted all the cash and owns the music. The record labels also absorbed all the risk.

There is not a business in the world where someone fronts all the cash in an investment and not recoup the majority of the funds back
BUt not at those lopsided terms record labels screw artists on both ends of the deal
 
The problem is they just use all the leverage and never partner fully. Like you don't have to be an asshole in business, that's a choice. I don't necessarily begrudge them for doing what they do and trying to cut it off at the pass. at the end of the day that's their job in the game. What sucks is that they never have to end up getting this far. By being fair they can focus on the things they do well, share in the profits and it would be a nice business. Take your 20% and do good work. it would still be good money.

A good executive would be worth the money potentially. it just sucks that there are so few and no one wants to allow everyone else to just eat.
 
Oh cool..

Then you'd know that your comment about simply negotiating a better deal is a bit far fetched & is extremely rare. For every ONE person in history that's negotiated an advantageous deal there are a gazzillion more who get the usually screw over with no grease. Record companies & casinos are one in the same, set up for the house to win with an occasional payout to keep the fools rushing in..lol

That's not true.

Labels hire producers to work on an album. Once the album gets finished the label cuts the producer a check and he goes on to the next project somewhere else.

If a signed artist needs beats they hire a beat maker, cut them a check, then that beat maker goes on to the next project somewhere else.

An artist needs a rock guitar solo on their album. They hire the guitarist, cut them a check, then the guitarist goes on to the next project somewhere else.

The only person who really gets screwed and has no bargaining power is the featured artist. They're the ones looking at the label like Captain save a flow.
 
That's not true.

Labels hire producers to work on an album. Once the album gets finished the label cuts the producer a check and he goes on to the next project somewhere else.

If a signed artist needs beats they hire a beat maker, cut them a check, then that beat maker goes on to the next project somewhere else.

An artist needs a rock guitar solo on their album. They hire the guitarist, cut them a check, then the guitarist goes on to the next project somewhere else.

The only person who really gets screwed and has no bargaining power is the featured artist. They're the ones looking at the label like Captain save a flow.
so session artist can do better than a signed artists?
 
so session artist can do better than a signed artists?

Session artist rarely make millions or become household names, but a lot of them still make a pretty decent living.

Nate Dogg is a great example. Aside from one very forgettable album he never did any of his own projects and still had a legendary career. Carol Kane played bass for Sam Cooke, the beach boys, Mel Torme, Sonny and Cher, and the Hawaii Five-O soundtrack.

In 2012 I was an assistant engineer on a session with Prairie Prince, former drummer from Journey. He had just gotten off tour with Miley Cyrus so he really doesn't have to worry about a record deal either. The best part is that if the tour loses money, which practically all of them do, he still gets paid.

In some cases session players become signed artists. Marvin Gaye started as an in-house drummer for Motown. Isaac Hayes played drums for Stax. David Grohl was a session drummer before joining Nirvana and eventually founded Foo Fighters. Luther Vandross was a backup singer for Patti LaBelle before joining Change. The band Toto was made up completely from session musicians.

The best part is that if any of these artists fell off they would still have a lucrative music career to fall back on. So this whole idea that musicians go to the labels hat in hand begging for a chance to be a star is not completely true.
 
You missed the entire point. Artist are employed by the label.

What you stated was irrelevant


Its like why don't they get that. The label puts up millions of dollars and has to recoup with a percentage on top. Thats simple investing 101.
 
Its like why don't they get that. The label puts up millions of dollars and has to recoup with a percentage on top. Thats simple investing 101.
recouping is one thing..changing the rules or challenging an agreement they created because the artist say...outlived the terms is something else. You defend that shit???
 
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