Immigration Author Explains Why Black People Are Not Considered American

[geechiedan]

here's the statement isolated...



So going by his assessment...if the criteria for being included in the "Circle Of WE", the dividing line is BLACK VS NONBLACK then the only conclusion one can come to is that those classified as part of the BLACK side can never be a part of the CIRCLE OF WE and that's where your treated and viewed as assimilated in society and therefore a true American citizen. What does that mean? By virtue of the skin color designation, BLACK...those who are identified as such can never be Americans.

It would explain why the Civil War and more importantly the Civil Rights Struggle went the way it did. The Civil War should have solved that issue once slavery was abolished... but literally 100 years later Blacks had to fight and laws enacted or struck down just to be treated as American citizens. What laws had to be created or struck down to deal with non-designated Black people in our society?

It would explain the disparages and different treatment Blacks have experienced in the penal system, education, housing, medical and employment areas.

It would explain why when given the choice other ethnic groups side or designate as White whenever possible.

The reality is there are no such thing as Black Americans... there are only Black people in America.

the whole vid...

@35:53

 

[KingTaharqa]

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[geechiedan]

 

[roots69]

Were POW's!!! The sooner we accept the fact that everything we were told, taught or in these books were a damn lie, the better off we will be!! For those that dont know what POW's are Prisoners of War!!

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

we ARE THE AMERICANS a cac can NEVER EVER be an american with their european pillaging colonizing ass..

 

[roots69]

we ARE THE AMERICANS a cac can NEVER EVER be an american with their european pillaging colonizing ass..

Why is that so hard for people to wrap their heads around?? The main key to understanding this fact is, this colony/corporation/country gave these colonist the okay to assume our identities by allowing them to pay $5 to be listed as five dollar indians..

 

[xfactor]

Were POW's!!! The sooner we accept the fact that everything we were told, taught or in these books were a damn lie, the better off we will be!! For those that dont know what POW's are Prisoners of War!!

exactly - we had our land and identities usurped and stolen by a group of people that have done that everywhere they have gone.

most of the so-called black community is brainwashed and don’t want to know the truth.

the so-called whites are the ones with a history of living in caves and being primitive but want to associate it to us. They know they were slaves for thousands of years and when they got in power, set up a system to make sure they don’t go back.

 

[playahaitian]

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[rude_dog]

Fuck that racist!

He is right in that America is about black and white. I've always said that they American Story is black and white, everything else is abstracted from there.

 

[geechiedan]

exactly - we had our land and identities usurped and stolen by a group of people that have done that everywhere they have gone.

most of the so-called black community is brainwashed and don’t want to know the truth.

the so-called whites are the ones with a history of living in caves and being primitive but want to associate it to us. They know they were slaves for thousands of years and when they got in power, set up a system to make sure they don’t go back.

exactly and we're back to square one.

At the end of the day might makes right and not only controls the conversation but the PARAMETERS of the conversation. The definitions and measurements by which we even THINK about how this issue is defined.

THERE ARE NO BLACK OR WHITE PEOPLE! Thats an arbitrary social construct designed to keep a US vs THEM mentality going. The shit was codified 300 years ago:

SLAVE LAWS PASSED IN VIRGINIA:

1660 — 1680: Slave Laws Further Restrict Freedom of Blacks and Legalize Different Treatment for Blacks and Whites

1667 - Virginia lawmakers say baptism does not bring freedom to blacks. The statute is passed because some slaves used their status as a Christian in the 1640s and 1650s to argue for their freedom or for freedom for a child. Legislators also encourage slave owners to Christianize their enslaved men, women and children.
1668 - Free black women, like enslaved females over the age of 16, are deemed tithable. The Virginia General Assembly says freedom does not exempt black women from taxation.
1669 - An act about the "casual killing of slaves" says that if a slave dies while resisting his master, the act will not be presumed to have occurred with “prepensed malice.”
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1670 - Free blacks and Native Americans who had been baptized are forbidden to buy Christian servants.
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1672 - It becomes legal to wound or kill an enslaved person who resists arrest. Legislators also deem that the owner of any slave killed as he resisted arrest will receive financial compensation for the loss of an enslaved laborer. Legislators also offer a reward to Indians who capture escaped slaves and return them to a justice of the peace.

that highlighted law in 1670 forbids free blacks and indians from owning WHITE SERVANTS (christian=white) so while free blacks could own other blacks they couldn't own whites by law...

That law effectively makes slavery chattel and also separates whites from nonwhites in the institution... Its the basis for all the race politics played out even today. Thus creating a level that even the poorest white person can't fall below. Poor whites TODAY catch as much hell as poor minorities but have historically and consistently chosen their skin color over their class distinction because of that very law. This is why white racist groups consist primarily of poor whites, it's also why the easiest way to get poor whites to vote AGAINST their economic best interest is to say it helps minorities but especially blacks and you will see poor whites viscerally angry in opposition to whatever measure is proposed even tho it benefits them too. American history has shown that poor whites and other non-black designated groups inevitably and invariably WILL choose their skin color over their class distinction whenever rich whites dangle that race politics carrot in their face and the root of that can be traced directly back to that time period.

Now ALL of that...defines HOW we even discuss the shit that's happening TODAY..this is why the various attempts at getting reparations for slavery and any other crimes committed against black people is a non-starter EVEN AMONG BLACK PEOPLE....because we don't agree on the terms and definitions of the issues we're talking about.

You can use the term POW but most blacks aren't going to agree with that. And if the guy's assessment in the OP is accurate then my conclusion that we're not Black Americans but Blacks IN America is based on the fact that the enslaved Africans were NEVER MEANT to be citizens any more than cows and pigs are citizens in this country. The system was never designed with us in mind in that way. That's why it tore the country apart TWICE. That's why there's going to have to be a THIRD schism and violent reckoning before there's progress in the way it needs to be for us. And white supremacists know this... that's why they keep talking about a race war because war and violence are the ONLY true ways power and leverage are transferred in the world.

Demanding reparations without the power to back up the repercussions for NOT doing it is a pointless exercise and we all know it.

 

[Gods_Debris]

Nice

 

[geechiedan]

 

[bgbtylvr]

Lot do whitesplaining. Asians aren’t white. Fuck that. I’ll never consider Hispanics to be white. Neither can attend a klan rally so fuck em.

 

[Shaka54]

Bookmarked

 

[roots69]

exactly - we had our land and identities usurped and stolen by a group of people that have done that everywhere they have gone.

most of the so-called black community is brainwashed and don’t want to know the truth.

the so-called whites are the ones with a history of living in caves and being primitive but want to associate it to us. They know they were slaves for thousands of years and when they got in power, set up a system to make sure they don’t go back.

Right on, write on...

 

[Princenubian]

Bookmarked for later comment

Carry onnnn

 

[geechiedan]

 

[TheAlias]

We BUILT this country and have been here longer than everyone (except the Native Americans). It's just like you gullible niggas letting some white guy (who's probably 1 or 2nd generation) define what you and your ancestors are.

Pathetic.

Know what you are, what legacy you belong to, and defend it.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

We BUILT this country and have been here longer than everyone (except the Native Americans). It's just like you gullible niggas letting some white guy (who's probably 1 or 2nd generation) define what you and your ancestors are.

Pathetic.

Know what you are, what legacy you belong to, and defend it.

Actually, many black americans are "native american." It is true that many ancestors of black americans were kidnapped and brought here against their will. However, there is irrefutable evidence that supports the fact that a large number of black Americans are descendants of "dark skin, with African features" native Americans. Many of the first white settlers wrote about meeting these "Indians" in their journals.

But, you are 100% on point.....

"Know what you are, (know who you are) what legacy you belong to, and defend it."

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Shit crazy