If only America had listened to her, we wouldn't be in this predicament...

We as Blacks have always had to choose between Bad and Worse accept for the Obama years. TRUMP was ABSOLUTELY THE WORSE POSSIBLE CHOICE

I agree that Trump was the worst choice, but what would have been the best? We were in for at least 4 years of bullshit no matter who got elected. That said, when the 2020 elections come around the winner will be whoever can tap into the 2/3rds of Americans that didn't vote at all. If those non-voters all supported Clinton the winner would be whoever has the scariest opponent.
 
OK so I know your not trying to tell me Trump is qualified. So what are you saying? I also know your not trying to say that Trump's past deeds were have benefited anyone but Trump and those in his circle.

How about Trump lying and even taking out a full page ad in the NY Times against the Central Park 5. Called those innocent boys all kinds of derogatory names. They all were found not guilty but Trump never apologized.

Here's a list of Trump's lies just since January.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

Its hard for me to support anyone that lies to me, ask my ex. But Trump lies to the American people every single day. Knowing of his propensity to lie why would any sane person want to support such a person? Unless.... maybe they're both sharing similar ideologies.

Not supporting Hillary doesn't equal support for Trump. That's the real false equivalence.
 
The same Bernie Sanders who lost the primary and wasn't a choice on the ballot.


The same Bernie Sanders who was shown in damn near every poll, as able to beat Trump in the general election

And the same Bernie Sanders where one of the reasons he lost the primaries, was b/c "we" didn't listen to his message.

The same Bernie Sanders where ninjas thought it was a damn popularity contest, & 90+ percent of the black population in those southern states voted for Clinton... just because her last name was Clinton
 
I agree that Trump was the worst choice, but what would have been the best? We were in for at least 4 years of bullshit no matter who got elected. That said, when the 2020 elections come around the winner will be whoever can tap into the 2/3rds of Americans that didn't vote at all. If those non-voters all supported Clinton the winner would be whoever has the scariest opponent.

Once again, easy for a white man to say.

Clinton would not have set Sessions over the Justice Department, and she wouldn't be trying to suppress the votes of Black people. She also would not have white nationalists in her white house.

So when you saw "We" were in for 4 years of bullshit no matter who got elected, you really mean YOU and in white men.

There clearly is a difference for us.
 
Not supporting Hillary doesn't equal support for Trump. That's the real false equivalence.

Not Supporting Hillary is what brought you Trump. Not casting a vote for Hillary was a back-handed way to support Trump. The votes that are not cast for the loser of any election translates into a vote for the WINNER. May be a hard concept to rap you head around but if you think about it, it will make sense when you look at the out come. :dunno::dunno:
 
The same Bernie Sanders who was shown in damn near every poll, as able to beat Trump in the general election

And the same Bernie Sanders where one of the reasons he lost the primaries, was b/c "we" didn't listen to his message.

The same Bernie Sanders where ninjas thought it was a damn popularity contest, & 90+ percent of the black population in those southern states voted for Clinton... just because her last name was Clinton

You see how the middle of the country is reacting to Kaep wearing a Castro T Shirt? Now imagine when the Republicans played the videotape of a Jew sitting with the Castros shitting on America and see how that would go.
 
Once again, easy for a white man to say.

Clinton would not have set Sessions over the Justice Department, and she wouldn't be trying to suppress the votes of Black people. She also would not have white nationalists in her white house.

So when you saw "We" were in for 4 years of bullshit no matter who got elected, you really mean YOU and in white men.

There clearly is a difference for us.

You say that she wouldn't have had white nationalists in her white house. What about her and her husband? They have done just as much damage it's just not talked about.

Remember that this is the same regime that saw white supremacist blow up a federal building to kickstart a racial holy war and decided that he was a lone wolf with no terrorist ties. And people talk about Trump emboldening the right? If the Clintons had taken Timothy McVeigh seriously and pushed their law and order resources to fighting Nazis the right would be a hollow shell. Instead it's a growing cancer.

I agree that she wouldn't have tried to suppress Black votes. She needed Black support to win. Once she got that vote what was she going to do with it though? If she can win on a "at least I'm not Trump" campaign then she doesn't have to do a goddamned thing for you.

At least now the 2020 hopeful will have to reach out directly to Black people's need and concerns to have a chance to win.
 
Suppose everyone took your advice and voted for Hillary to keep Trump out of office. All you would have is an unqualified president with unlimited power. The Richard Spencers of the world would still be gaining influence. The cops and other white supremacists would still be killing like nothing changed.

Back in the 80s none of the Democrats are talking that Law & Order garbage. Then in 1988 Michael Dukakis loses the election because of Willie Horton. In 1992 Bill Clinton starts talking about Law and Order as way to regain the racists his party lost to the Republicans.

How is that any different from the way that Trump took the 2016 election?

Again, I'm not saying that she would have been as bad, but comparing Trump's deeds to Clinton's words is foolish. Especially with her history.

Don't use your vote to empower people who want to hurt you
BULLSHIT

White supremacy groups wouldn't have been taken off domestic terrorist list.

Sessions wouldn't be bringing back mandoraty sentences and war on drugs. The very thing you clowns complain about because Hillary supported her husband and they had no idea then how it would turn out.

Your false equilancy is played out. YOU ARE WRONG.

You are as dishonest as fucking trump supporters.
 
You say that she wouldn't have had white nationalists in her white house. What about her and her husband? They have done just as much damage it's just not talked about.

Remember that this is the same regime that saw white supremacist blow up a federal building to kickstart a racial holy war and decided that he was a lone wolf with no terrorist ties. And people talk about Trump emboldening the right? If the Clintons had taken Timothy McVeigh seriously and pushed their law and order resources to fighting Nazis the right would be a hollow shell. Instead it's a growing cancer.

I agree that she wouldn't have tried to suppress Black votes. She needed Black support to win. Once she got that vote what was she going to do with it though? If she can win on a "at least I'm not Trump" campaign then she doesn't have to do a goddamned thing for you.

At least now the 2020 hopeful will have to reach out directly to Black people's need and concerns to have a chance to win.
You are such a lieing dishonest person. Every paragraph you just typed has blatant lies in it.
 
Rather than focusing on a code we stay infighting over trivial bullshit like this. klan gonna klan.
There were still gatherings and protests under Obama.

Hillary is not the 2nd coming.
No she wasn't but would have been a place holder until a better person and a better time arrived.

Now...on so many Proggressive issues we are set back beyond our lifetimes.

White people just added 50 more years on their strangle hold.
 
No she wasn't but would have been a place holder until a better person and a better time arrived.

Now...on so many Proggressive issues we are set back beyond our lifetimes.

White people just added 50 more years on their strangle hold.
And our answer to WS is to sulk and infighting amongst each other.
Smh
 
We have discussed this for the last two years and numerous people have showed you proof of your dishonesty time and time again.

You are an eyelash above trump supporters on the worse people list in the US.

You said that there were blatant lies in the paragraph I just posted. If you really want to call me out why not start there? What specifically did I lie about in that paragraph?
 
Rather than focusing on a code we stay infighting over trivial bullshit like this. klan gonna klan.
There were still gatherings and protests under Obama.

Hillary is not the 2nd coming.

Black people who act like "white mommy" was our salvation are not truly ready to confront white supremacy. They are afraid and dont want to have to view their white liberal friends as suspected white supremacists. Trump getting elected is the best thing to happen to our people. It put white supremacy on front street. Mofos was happily asleep in them Obama years, not so much now. Went from talkin that "the President can only do so much" to "this is all because of the President" real quick.

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Black people who act like "white mommy" was our salvation are not truly ready to confront white supremacy. They are afraid and dont want to have to view their white liberal friends as suspected white supremacists. Trump getting elected is the best thing to happen to our people. It put white supremacy on front street. Mofos was happily asleep in them Obama years, not so much now. Went from talkin that "the President can only do so much" to "this is all because of the President" real quick.

Their white friends have nothing to do with this. They're just dumb and cowardly
Niggas want to act like white supremacists haven't infiltrated the courts and law enforcement. So many Black men were killed under Obama's reign, and nothing was done. But somehow, having a white woman in office would put a stop to whats going on now. Shit is stupid.
Whites are squading up to KILL us, and these motherfuckers want to keep pointing the finger at their own people. These niggas have mad venom to spit towards Black people, but can't present one solution on how to combat what's going on.

I have a homie who is doing his residency with UVA's hospital. He told me that that helicopter crashed not too far from an alt right hideout. There were white supremacists driving around shooting at Black people, running up in peoples homes, and jumping random people. None of this shit is being reported in the news. Shit is REAL, and these idiots keep talking about fucking Hillary.
Im convinced that we won't be able to properly deal with the threat of WS until we can find a way to internally clean house. There are alot of people who can't help but to get in our way.

Not supporting Hillary doesn't equal support for Trump. That's the real false equivalence.
the real false equivalency is trying to connect the election of Hillary to the events of this weekend.
This event was going to happen no matter what.
I can't believe im quoting you again :smh:
 
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I don't get the Hillary hate. It would make no sense if someone said they hate Hillary and her policies but think Obama is the goat. They are cut from the same cloth
 
Don't forget that these are the words of a person who campaigned for Goldwater and helped lock up thousands Black men over a bullshit drug war.

Not saying she's as bad as Trump, but she was never fit to be president either.
when you only have two choices...vote for the one who WAS NOT an elected official when her husband signed a bill that DID NOT SIGNIFICANTLY ADD to mass incarceration, WAS NOT successfully sued for housing discrimination against Black people and WAS NOT a shill for Vladimir Putin.

FOH with that propaganda.

thats the bullshit that caused dumb motherfuckers not to vote or to vote for this ass hat currently in office.
 
Black people who act like "white mommy" was our salvation are not truly ready to confront white supremacy. They are afraid and dont want to have to view their white liberal friends as suspected white supremacists. Trump getting elected is the best thing to happen to our people. It put white supremacy on front street. Mofos was happily asleep in them Obama years, not so much now. Went from talkin that "the President can only do so much" to "this is all because of the President" real quick.

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BOOM!
Last year it was "Obama can't do anything he's just one man"
To
" Trump got too much power, he's doing too much"

Shit is sad bro.

Which is it y'all?
 
BOOM!
Last year it was "Obama can't do anything he's just one man"
To
" Trump got too much power, he's doing too much"

Shit is sad bro.

Which is it y'all?
Is this a joke?

Congress allowed Obama to do anything and make excuses for him or stay silent huh...
 
There's only 2 kinds of white people

Active white supremacist

And

Passive white supremacist

They all benefit from the oppressive system of racial privileges
 
when you only have two choices...vote for the one who WAS NOT an elected official when her husband signed a bill that DID NOT SIGNIFICANTLY ADD to mass incarceration, WAS NOT successfully sued for housing discrimination against Black people and WAS NOT a shill for Vladimir Putin.

FOH with that propaganda.

thats the bullshit that caused dumb motherfuckers not to vote or to vote for this ass hat currently in office.

Suppose you're hiring someone to work at your store. You come across a resume that says

Wendy's 2008-2016

Did NOT piss on the floor
Did NOT steal form the till
Did NOT shoot up and nod out in the drive through

Are you going to hire this person? How about if the only other candidate is someone who did at least two of those things?

Hell no! You'd be better off to tell both to kick rocks until you found someone who could do the job properly.

Same applies here.

With that said, it doesn't matter if she signed a mass incarceration bill or not when all of her backing comes from the people who did.
 
Black people who act like "white mommy" was our salvation are not truly ready to confront white supremacy. They are afraid and dont want to have to view their white liberal friends as suspected white supremacists. Trump getting elected is the best thing to happen to our people. It put white supremacy on front street. Mofos was happily asleep in them Obama years, not so much now. Went from talkin that "the President can only do so much" to "this is all because of the President" real quick.

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Trump being elected is the best thing....

Fuck you are delusional.

Explain to me short of a civil war how anything can be changed now.
 
Trump being elected is the best thing....

Fuck you are delusional.

Explain to me short of a civil war how anything can be changed now.

You have no problem coming at your own people
But I have yet to see you say one word about the people who are gearing up to kill you. You want to run your mouth about everything besides THAT
http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/vice-news-charlottesville-race-and-terror.963831/
I bet money you will stay out of this thread
 
Suppose you're hiring someone to work at your store. You come across a resume that says

Wendy's 2008-2016

Did NOT piss on the floor
Did NOT steal form the till
Did NOT shoot up and nod out in the drive through

Are you going to hire this person? How about if the only other candidate is someone who did at least two of those things?

Hell no! You'd be better off to tell both to kick rocks until you found someone who could do the job properly.

Same applies here.

With that said, it doesn't matter if she signed a mass incarceration bill or not when all of her backing comes from the people who did.
abysmally false equivalency.
a Wendys empolyee aint gonna have nuclear codes...aint gonna have executive order powers...waont have SCOTUS nomination powers...and cant fuck with the worlds economy.

also unlike a potential Wendys employee, REGARDLESS of how you feel about either, ONE OF THEM WILL GET THE JOB.

and btw dumbass...

Responsible for Mass Incarceration?
The protester’s complaint assumes, of course, that the 1994 crime bill was a major contributor to mass incarceration that hit the black community particularly hard. But experts say that puts too much blame on the 1994 bill.

The trend toward increased incarceration began in the early 1970s, and quadrupled in the ensuing four decades. A two-year study by the National Research Council concluded that the increase was historically unprecedented, that the U.S. far outpaced the incarceration rates elsewhere in the world, and that high incarceration rates have disproportionately affected Hispanic and black communities. The report cited policies enacted by officials at all levels that expanded the use of incarceration, largely in response to decades of rising crime.

“In the 1970s, the numbers of arrests and court caseloads increased, and prosecutors and judges became harsher in their charging and sentencing,” the report states. “In the 1980s, convicted defendants became more likely to serve prison time.”

Indeed, this trend continued with tough-on-crime policies through the 1990s as well, but to lay the blame for the incarceration trend entirely, or even mostly, at the feet of the 1994 crime bill ignores the historical trend.

“The trend of increased incarceration had already started two decades before 1994,” Jeremy Travis, the president of the John Jay College of Justice in New York, told the New York Times. Travis led federal research on crime during the Clinton administration and was an editor of the National Research Council report.

But that doesn’t mean it didn’t have any effect. Experts told us the law exacerbated the trend. And so Clinton’s defense that “90 percent of the people in prison too long are in state prisons and local jails,” rather than federal prisons, is a bit misleading. It suggests the law only affected federal prisons, and that’s not accurate.

The bill included a federal “three-strikes” provision which required mandatory life imprisonment without possibility of parole for those who commit federal violent felonies if they had two or more previous convictions for violent felonies or drug trafficking crimes. In his mea culpa in August, Clinton said that while most people are in prison under state law, “the federal law set a trend.”

so again, get the ENTIRE FOH with that ignorant bullshit.
 
Who's blaming Hillary for black people being incarcerated?? She's a hell of a lot more racist than that.
 
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