I think I'm Malcolm X , Nat Turner.........

They actually do come on every now & then. BET stays showing Boyz N The Hood. TV One will run Shaka Zulu from time to time. I doubt many networks show Roots simply because of the length of the film.

I know reruns get shown:smh:. I said a movie like as in similar too those movies. My point was that there is no more balance, just stereotypical, nonsense.
 
You make many valid points, but you keep ignoring/side-stepping the subject at hand. I never said all the issues you addressed weren't relevent(many more relevent than music by far), but it's not what was being discussed in this thread. Music is a form of education and can be used(and is used) to manipulate, positively or negatively. Especially when dealing with yound, undeveloped minds. Maybe brainwashed or sheepish would've been a better word than ignorant, because your condescending response shows how someone can be informed but unaware at the same time. In other words.... Brainwashed.

Sir, nice effort but i don't think that "he/she/it" wants to see this. One of the many reasons why it is hard for most of "us" to see how the global, national and local system of racism/white supremacy operates is because "we" tend to look at things in isolation. The truth is that, if black people are a dominated people on the UNIVERSE, then that means that the group that dominates "us" has a direct and indirect influence on all, if not most, of "our" known nine areas of people activity. If they dominate the economy, they will also directly dominate the education and the entertainment and so on and so on. Ross might be "good" but why is there no balance in the Hip-Hop community. Why don't conscious MCs get the same coverage in the media as the so called commercial MCs?
 
Why is it niggas always want to tell someone what music to like and listen to? You niggas kill me with that shit...........



*Puts on Teflon Don and jams the hell out of it knowing a nigga is somewhere upset*

Right on bruh these niggas just mad at the bawse. Do you imma do me
 
I feel what you're saying. And I understand your stance on the issue. My stance though is that music shouldn't be the problem if proper parenting is in the household. In our community or hell i'll even go further...our our COUNTRY we use video games and music as a scapegoat for why our kids are acting the fuck up. Why Billy is shooting up Columbine or why Lil' Mike catchin' bodies at age 14. I just don't believe music is the cause for this and yea I agree it does do some hurt to our culture but it shouldn't. Movies, video games, music, etc. are all forms of entertainment. They shouldn't be used to educate in any form or fashion. These kids should be told these forms of entertainment are used to escape reality. Not make reality. But in some households TV's are used to babysit. Music is used to shut their kids up. Music is just the last thing on the list of things i'd concern myself with when it comes to our community. Music should be enjoyed. Not followed.

A response like that makes me happy to know a brother like you is contributing in these young ones lives! Peace
 
Why don't conscious MCs get the same coverage in the media as the so called commercial MCs?

You and me both know the answer to this. America presents itself as a place of freedom, liberty, and racial equality but that is only a facade. The media gatekeepers know that as long as people are ignorant and confused they will continue to be weighed down by low vibrational useless brainless entertainment. Anything that questions the power aparatus in this country is always silenced by those who don't want the masses of people to get a spark and start asking questions. Music has been used in every culture since the beginning of human culture as a way of telling stories it was entertaining but it was functional and useful as well.

The point is those that have knowledge of themselves are sick and tired of all the negative bullshit music and messages which does no one no damn good. Our black youth deserves better than these fake ass drug dealers, materialistic hip swinging neck snapping swaggots, and slut ass divas.
 
You and me both know the answer to this. America presents itself as a place of freedom, liberty, and racial equality but that is only a facade. The media gatekeepers know that as long as people are ignorant and confused they will continue to be weighed down by low vibrational useless brainless entertainment. Anything that questions the power aparatus in this country is always silenced by those who don't want the masses of people to get a spark and start asking questions. Music has been used in every culture since the beginning of human culture as a way of telling stories it was entertaining but it was functional and useful as well.

The point is those that have knowledge of themselves are sick and tired of all the negative bullshit music and messages which does no one no damn good. Our black youth deserves better than these fake ass drug dealers, materialistic hip swinging neck snapping swaggots, and slut ass divas.

:yes:
 
Sir, nice effort but i don't think that "he/she/it" wants to see this. One of the many reasons why it is hard for most of "us" to see how the global, national and local system of racism/white supremacy operates is because "we" tend to look at things in isolation. The truth is that, if black people are a dominated people on the UNIVERSE, then that means that the group that dominates "us" has a direct and indirect influence on all, if not most, of "our" known nine areas of people activity. If they dominate the economy, they will also directly dominate the education and the entertainment and so on and so on. Ross might be "good" but why is there no balance in the Hip-Hop community. Why don't conscious MCs get the same coverage in the media as the so called commercial MCs?

The reason conscious emcee's don't get the same coverage as commercial emcees is because they're not profitable.

These exec's man they don't give a fuck. They'll throw a homo out there to make money. They'll throw a blind man out there if it will make them money. They'll profit from ANYONE. Label exec's don't care. They just need to make sure they're not in the red by the time December hits.

But to answer your question....they don't get pushed because of US. We just don't purchase conscious rappers. A prime example is look at us in here right now. We love Dead Prez. We love Talib Kweli. And we sitting over here passing links around to download it. So if we love these niggas and ain't buying their albums who the hell will? The answer is.....no one. Nobody is going to buy these albums. Females will by a Drake album. They'll by a Trey Songz album. And females really are the ones who dominate music. What they want is what gets pushed.

You saw what happened when Kanye sold millions of records. You saw Lupe Fiasco get signed and actually get a release date. You saw Talib Kweli get signed by Atlantic. You saw Def Jam snag up the Roots. You started to see a shift in the emcee that was getting pushed. And what happened? Talib flopped. Little Brother flopped. Roots flopped.

We can blame the label exec's if we want but ultimately its our own fault that more conscious rappers don't get pushed. Females are showing record labels what they like by going out and purchasing it. We don't have that same voice for our conscious rappers. Ultimately, we have ourselves to blame for why a nigga like Wacka Flacka gets more media coverage and promotion from his label than Dead Prez.

A response like that makes me happy to know a brother like you is contributing in these young ones lives! Peace

Much respect.
 
I know reruns get shown:smh:. I said a movie like as in similar too those movies. My point was that there is no more balance, just stereotypical, nonsense.

You're kinda stretching with that. If anything we have gotten to the point we DONT wanna see movies like Menace made mainstream. movies depicting us in positive roles, educate us on different events of our people's plight and documenting positive Black stories are still produced. I dont know how recent you are looking for but..

The Great Debaters, Akeelah & The Bee, Pride, Hotel Rawanda, Yesterday, Glory Road, Coach Carter, Stomp The yard, The Express, The Pursuit of Happyness, Remember The Titans, Hurricane Season, Antwone Fisher, Men of Honor, Sometimes in April, The Hurricane, Ali, Something the Lord Made

Im almost certain everything listed above was released since 2000. Not everything released is American Gangster, Paid In Full, Killa Season, etc.. Most important is the ability to be able to seperate what you see on tv and hear in music from reality. Different movies & music have different motives. While some seek to educate you have others that seek to entertain. Being able to decipher the two is key.
 
The reason conscious emcee's don't get the same coverage as commercial emcees is because they're not profitable.

These exec's man they don't give a fuck. They'll throw a homo out there to make money. They'll throw a blind man out there if it will make them money. They'll profit from ANYONE. Label exec's don't care. They just need to make sure they're not in the red by the time December hits.

But to answer your question....they don't get pushed because of US. We just don't purchase conscious rappers. A prime example is look at us in here right now. We love Dead Prez. We love Talib Kweli. And we sitting over here passing links around to download it. So if we love these niggas and ain't buying their albums who the hell will? The answer is.....no one. Nobody is going to buy these albums. Females will by a Drake album. They'll by a Trey Songz album. And females really are the ones who dominate music. What they want is what gets pushed.

You saw what happened when Kanye sold millions of records. You saw Lupe Fiasco get signed and actually get a release date. You saw Talib Kweli get signed by Atlantic. You saw Def Jam snag up the Roots. You started to see a shift in the emcee that was getting pushed. And what happened? Talib flopped. Little Brother flopped. Roots flopped.

We can blame the label exec's if we want but ultimately its our own fault that more conscious rappers don't get pushed. Females are showing record labels what they like by going out and purchasing it. We don't have that same voice for our conscious rappers. Ultimately, we have ourselves to blame for why a nigga like Wacka Flacka gets more media coverage and promotion from his label than Dead Prez.



Much respect.

I respect your opinion. Now, i personally believe that they don't get the same coverage because black people are living/functioning under white hegemony. Meaning the people that are classified as white have to first approve and define what the norm is. We have the talent but we don't have the resources to fully market it the way that we would like too. White folk have to first, in most if not all cases, approve of it.
 
I respect your opinion. Now, i personally believe that they don't get the same coverage because black people are living/functioning under white hegemony. Meaning the people that are classified as white have to first approve and define what the norm is. We have the talent but we don't have the resources to fully market it the way that we would like too. White folk have to first, in most if not all cases, approve of it.

People have no understanding how social engineering really works in America.
 
People have no understanding how social engineering really works in America.

Like wrote before, "we" (BLACK PEOPLE) have been taught to see things in isolation. "We" hate looking at things in detail. "We" don't like connecting the dots. "We" ask 10 questions, when "we" should be asking 10 000 000 questions. But i believe that with time "we" will be able to change this. :yes:
 
Whole we have a thread up that reps music I can tolerate, was was wondering if anyone could hook a brotha up with some Dead Prez links(actually all, if possible). I used to have Lets get free and Turn off the Radio 1+2(plus some scattered mix tape tracks), but since I moved to AZ I've destroyed my CDs and can't find replacements out here. It would really help my stay sane in this desert. Peace

True dat... Been searching for the links to
DJ Green Lantern & Dead Prez "Pulse of The People" (Turn Off The Radio Vol.3) for a minute and going in circles cause links are dead from
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=394858

Peace
 
Why is it niggas always want to tell someone what music to like and listen to? You niggas kill me with that shit...........



*Puts on Teflon Don and jams the hell out of it knowing a nigga is somewhere upset*

no one told you what to listen to or what not to listen to. You choose to listen to whatever the fuck you want to. People of different tases and people have opinions...THAT is what you see on this board...no on has ever said you should NOT listen to Officer Ricky the Bawse


niggas just say he wack and a fucking fraud no matter how good the music is.

go on with that bullshit


*goes back to 'reviewing' this Teflon Don LP*
 



dude is a fraud CB4 muthafucka and cats are supporting this shit....this is why the genre is shit now....too many bullshit actors....


Thats bullshit.

Some of the most succesful artists create a character/image and run with it.

Do you think folks were saying that shit about David Bowie or Prince?

Ross makes music that people enjoy. Its that simple
 
Thats bullshit.

Some of the most succesful artists create a character/image and run with it.

Do you think folks were saying that shit about David Bowie or Prince?

Ross makes music that people enjoy. Its that simple

:lol::hmm:

Ross is not even all that on the mic...cats got this fool thinking he BIG....its a damn joke....

next if Ross stop rapping what significance has he made in Hip Hop other than being a CO at one point and lying?

Prince and Bowie are superstars....this latest album will probably do 200k 1st week and fall off after that.....

his albums are easily forgotten...and yes I do listen to dude unfortunately....
 
BUMP just because that track is fucking BRILLIANT! :yes:



I'm already back in the Rick Rawse thread as I type. :lol: And there's no delusion on my part. You said black folks right now in 2010 are as ignorate as they were during slavery and that shit there I disagreed with. And I can't see how someone with a resume such as yours could even say such shit. But let me go back to the Rick Ross thread and poison myself because i'm easily influenced and very impressionable by the music I listen to. There's a problem in our community and music is not the concern I have in mind. You eventually see a trend when you see teen pregnancy and impressionable boys who want to be a goon. And the trend isn't the music they listen to. Its the households they live in. Not the neighborhood but the actual households. Fatherless homes, mom works 20 hours a day, Grandma is only in her 30's so she's still hittin' the club up......there are bigger problems in our community than music but let me keep on blaiming Rick Rawse and Gucci Mane because that's our go to scapegoat. Rap music. Only if they had Dead Prez in their life we'd cure all this shit. :hmm:
Right there ... @ the highlighted ... is where your I have issues with your argument. How can you isolate the effect of the neighborhood? Kids stay in the house 24/7? This makes no sense. Those problems you mentioned; fatherless homes, absentee moms, irresponsible parents just didn't materialize out of no where. It's all part of a vicious cycle.
Then you turn around and say "...there are bigger problems in our community than music.." But I just thought you said it was exclusively the household?:confused:
Dude, it's a vicious closed feed-back cycle. A complex system that can't be simplified to just rap music ... or drugs ... or bad parents. But if you wana say that the coonery and buffoonery of Gucci Mane, Rick Ross, Wocka Flocka, Young Money and the like are benign then your delusional. With all due respect.




The reason conscious emcee's don't get the same coverage as commercial emcees is because they're not profitable.

These exec's man they don't give a fuck. They'll throw a homo out there to make money. They'll throw a blind man out there if it will make them money. They'll profit from ANYONE. Label exec's don't care. They just need to make sure they're not in the red by the time December hits.

But to answer your question....they don't get pushed because of US. We just don't purchase conscious rappers. A prime example is look at us in here right now. We love Dead Prez. We love Talib Kweli. And we sitting over here passing links around to download it. So if we love these niggas and ain't buying their albums who the hell will? The answer is.....no one. Nobody is going to buy these albums. Females will by a Drake album. They'll by a Trey Songz album. And females really are the ones who dominate music. What they want is what gets pushed.

You saw what happened when Kanye sold millions of records. You saw Lupe Fiasco get signed and actually get a release date. You saw Talib Kweli get signed by Atlantic. You saw Def Jam snag up the Roots. You started to see a shift in the emcee that was getting pushed. And what happened? Talib flopped. Little Brother flopped. Roots flopped.

We can blame the label exec's if we want but ultimately its our own fault that more conscious rappers don't get pushed. Females are showing record labels what they like by going out and purchasing it. We don't have that same voice for our conscious rappers. Ultimately, we have ourselves to blame for why a nigga like Wacka Flacka gets more media coverage and promotion from his label than Dead Prez.

Much respect.

Record execs don't just manufacture pop-culture out of the wind. The music industry ebbs and flows in fads and trends that emerge from how we react to the art. The industry adapts accordingly. It might take a Jay-z wearing button ups or Kanye West rocking pastel polos and a back pack or skinny jeans and so forth. Or some gay dance or hook. Or "lil John Crump" beat style. Or dreads. Or this stupid V-neck white T shit everyone is wearing. Or plaid military style shirts. One famous person does it and we all follow suit like zombies. Like it or not t's the truth.

Let me ask you this. And think about it carefully and be honest in your answer.

How many decisions/choices did you make today entirely on your own. I mean, based on your personal internal index of valuation?

We underestimate the power of media and, concomitantly, pop-culture in influencing our behavior. Embeded biases you have will immediately compel you to call bullshit and as a reflex reaction swear that you call your own shots. But trust me, more likely than not, 80-90% of the choices and decisions you and most (including me) made today were irrational. Whether you chose to accept it or not is another issue.

 
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