I Aint No Bush Supporter But....

[Spectrum]

Tha's funny, they said the same thing about you. Your talking points must have ran out. Hope you are around in 40 years

Your indictment of ignorance, entertaining. Thanks.

Exactly. That is why instead of continuing the subject with objective facts...you are trying to drag this into the subjective world of your friends opinions(whom I could careless what they think)..but being that you put so much weight on the subjective, one should not be surprised. You should be careful of being anchored to the subjective as you never know where the wind may blow you. If you come back with some facts, we can continue.

 

[Makeherhappy]

Exactly. That is why instead of continuing the subject with objective facts...you are trying to drag this into the subjective world of your friends opinions(whom I could careless what they think)..but being that you put so much weight on the subjective, one should not be surprised. You should be careful of being anchored to the subjective as you never know where the wind may blow you. If you come back with some facts, we can continue.

That's cute. Refer to the other thread. You'll get it in 40 years right.

 

[Makeherhappy]

Really missed this

Your reaching brother..reaching far indeed. I suggest you do a search for our other threads about "man made" natural disasters. Why do you think it would be so difficult for man to hide in one of the most cavernous parts of the world that is essentially the best place for a nomadic person like Bin Laden to hide...which has been one of the most hunted individuals in the world for decades...whom is also guarded by one of the most loyal groups on earth in an area where the tribes are symphatic and supportive of this cause.This is simply the needle in the hackstack example. They don't know where that muthafucka is. Bush would have held him up for the world to see a long time ago if he could as his grand trophy. 1. HARRP. 2. WOULD HE, DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE HE WOULD, EVEN WITH THE MUCH PUBLICIZED BUSH/BIN LADEN CONNECTION. IF HE WANTED TO FIND HIM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PULLED AS MANY RESOURCES AS HE DID TO FIGHT IN ANOTHER LAND.
Break down your statement of:

"And for the love hate relationship with china. We love them we their communist ways, but hate the for the media and public."
Their are to good books to help you with that The Naked Communist and The Naked Capitalist

Elaborate on that. It depends on who you mean by "we". Who is "we". Do you mean the illuminatists who want to see a one world government(new world order) ruled be a small group of elitist...who is "we"..because most sane people in freedom loving nations who have any inkling of what communism really stands for have no positive feelings for it whatsover.

I've read books similar to the one you posted. Actually it's on someones booklist on amazon and i've read many on the list, but not that one. I've added it to my wishlist. The only thing I don't like about books like this as that the often don't draw the line between plausibility of things that they can back with some evidence and then the things that they are "reaching" on and they just have an inclination..nothing to base it on. But I enjoy books like that..but one still has to be able to draw the line.

I love how you guys make HUGE SWEEPING claims about complicated world matters without providing one piece of supporing data, an assessment, etc. You guys must think that your claims are like Jesus turning water to wine or something..you say it so it is so! At least put together a short 6-8 sentence analysis with some logical assessment as apposed to just making some grand claims with nothing for it to lean one in the rest of your post.

I'm not even saying that you can't be right but do more than make statements like this:

We know where bin laden is
9/11 was a war exercise
those are man made hurricanes to give FEMA more power

Can to explain how you have come to the determination that "we" know where Bin Laden is? WELL TO HELP YOU OUT THIS ONE, I HAVE A NUMBER OF MILITARY CONTACTS THAT HAVE GOOD LEVEL OF SECURITY CLEARENCE, BEFORE THE WAR STARTED IN IRAQ, HE WAS IN THE MOUNTAIN REGION BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA. SORRY YOU COULD NOT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR THAT CONVERSATION. AT THE TIME HE WAS BEING "HELD" THERE. Do you can to explain how you know that 9/11 was simply a war exercise? DON'T UNDERSTAND DO YOU CAN, I DO HAVE A VERY NICE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT 9/11 AND THE EXERCISE. AND I SAY AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THEY DON'T LIKE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS, I HAVE SOME LAND FOR SALE IN ALABAMA FOR YOU. Care to explain how we managed to create and strategically manuever a category 4 hurricane to hit a city with precision? SINCE I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE FULL WORKINGS OF SUBMARINES AND HOW THEY WORK, NO CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT ONE FOR YOU. BUT I'LL PROPOSE TO YOU THAT SENATE BILL 517 MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE SUBJECT. OH, HARRP, YEAH I KNOW IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO BEFORE. Care to provide any substance to back your claims?

 

[Spectrum]

That's cute. Refer to the other thread. You'll get it in 40 years right.

Already covered your other thread and your inability to understand or adequately reference the links you are providing. You should be able to adequately explain the things you are citing. Again, you are trying to win as opposed to getting to the truth. I don't know who you think are you fooling..maybe only yourself. I don't understand what type of satifisfaction you could get out of being dilusional. Furthermore, reading a couple of links is not going to educate you on something as complex and controversial as the Federal Reserve System. Don't lie and say you have read some books because no one who has read a book about the Fed or understands "central" banking would ever call a central banking system explicitly "private"..it only has some characteristics of a private entity. Your proclamations are the equivalent of someone claiming to understand thermodynamics, but doesn't even remotely understand Kinetic theory or physics. You are bound to make all type of false claims or site faulty material because you don't understand the fundamental mechanics.

 

[Spectrum]

Really missed this

Right. You knew where Bid Laden was and all your friends with top level clearance have shared all this classified information with you.

And, I actually posted pics on the old board of my travels to Iraq during the war..and speak Arabic and studied near eastern politics in College..and also grew up in Detroit..which has the largest Arab population outside of the Middle East. I think I'm going to go with my own opinion on this one. Have you ever been to the Middle East and talked to an Arab? or a muslim from the midde east in the middle east? Don't start fucking lying man. I have..I can scan and post my passport stamps right now playa.

We've crosses all these bridges before..even Bill 517. Do a search.

You are trying too hard man.

 

[Makeherhappy]

Already covered your other thread and your inability to understand or adequately reference the links you are providing. You should be able to adequately explain the things you are citing. Again, you are trying to win as opposed to getting to the truth. I don't know who you think are you fooling..maybe only yourself. I don't understand what type of satifisfaction you could get out of being dilusional. Furthermore, reading a couple of links is not going to educate you on something as complex and controversial as the Federal Reserve System. Don't lie and say you have read some books because no one who has read a book about the Fed or understands "central" banking would ever call a central banking system explicitly "private"..it only has some characteristics of a private entity. Your proclamations are the equivalent of someone claiming to understand thermodynamics, but doesn't even remotely understand Kinetic theory or physics. You are bound to make all type of false claims or site faulty material because you don't understand the fundamental mechanics.

You just through that explicity private in there, now you are trying to add words. People add things when it's not going the favored way.

40 years right?
OK

 

[Makeherhappy]

Right. You knew where Bid Laden was and all your friends with top level clearance have shared all this classified information with you.

And, I actually posted pics on the old board of my travels to Iraq during the war..and speak Arabic and studied near eastern politics in College..and also grew up in Detroit..which has the largest Arab population outside of the Middle East. I think I'm going to go with my own opinion on this one. Have you ever been to the Middle East and talked to an Arab? or a muslim from the midde east in the middle east? Don't start fucking lying man. I have..I can scan and post my passport stamps right now playa.

We've crosses all these bridges before..even Bill 517. Do a search.

You are trying too hard man.

Middle East, I can say no. As far as speaking with the from the Mid East, yeah, pretty regular. AND THAT'S NO FUCKING LIE. Have several clients from the area.

I didn't study it, but I know my clients. We talk enough to know, that the reason for "them" not supposedly liking us, is not because of our freedom. That lie should have stopped a long time ago.

I hope that helps you out.

 

[Makeherhappy]

We've crosses all these bridges before..even Bill 517. Do a search.

You are trying too hard man.

Did that search, back to your start date didn't see much about it.

"crossed"

 

[Spectrum]

Middle East, I can say no. As far as speaking with the from the Mid East, yeah, pretty regular. AND THAT'S NO FUCKING LIE. Have several clients from the area.

I didn't study it, but I know my clients. We talk enough to know, that the reason for "them" not supposedly liking us, is not because of our freedom. That lie should have stopped a long time ago.

I hope that helps you out.

Let's make a distinction here. You have to draw a distinction between a fundmentalist or a terrorist and then a regular muslim. If you are speaking of a fundamentalist..they very definately oppose our freedoms and would cut your throat in a hardbeat if you didn't submit to Allah, Claim Muhammed as his prophet, and lived under the Shar'ia. This is no secret..no lie, and no media spin. That is reality. If you think anything differently, I suggest you do to their country and ask their opinion personally. You won't live to get an answer. This is very real.

In regards to modern muslims..there are various reasons why some don't like the West.1. our support of Israel. 2. Our planned regime changes..like with the situation with Iran and the Ayotallah. 3. Our affiliations with Saudi Arabia. 4. Their though they were are only their for their oil(which is true). 5. One other thing that people don't understand unless you know Muslim History or been to the middle east is that once Muslim ruled the world..they had strong Dynasties..Moors, Ottoman,etc....now they are third world and the bottom of the geopolitical chain. That entire GDP of the entire Middle East is less than Spain. They have a MASSIVE inferiority complex. This is very obvious when you visit the Middle East and talk to people about their position in the world geopolitically and their is alot of resentmess of the U.S. position as the world superpower.

 

[Spectrum]

Did that search, back to your start date didn't see much about it.

"crossed"

Probably if you do a search for "hurricane". Furthermore, I think we should be bigger men and exchange ideas and cut out of the competition..that's the only way things are learned. Plus man..this going back and forth has effectively eaten up todays productivity and now i will have to pull an all nighter to get my work done...thanks

 

[Makeherhappy]

Let's make a distinction here. You have to draw a distinction between a fundmentalist or a terrorist and then a regular muslim. If you are speaking of a fundamentalist..they very definately oppose our freedoms and would cut your throat in a hardbeat if you didn't submit to Allah, Claim Muhammed as his prophet, and lived under the Shar'ia. This is no secret..no lie, and no media spin. That is reality. If you think anything differently, I suggest you do to their country and ask their opinion personally. You won't live to get an answer. This is very real.

In regards to modern muslims..there are various reasons why some don't like the West.1. our support of Israel. 2. Our planned regime changes..like with the situation with Iran and the Ayotallah. 3. Our affiliations with Saudi Arabia. 4. Their though they were are only their for their oil(which is true). 5. One other thing that people don't understand unless you know Muslim History or been to the middle east is that once Muslim ruled the world..they had strong Dynasties..Moors, Ottoman,etc....now they are third world and the bottom of the geopolitical chain. That entire GDP of the entire Middle East is less than Spain. They have a MASSIVE inferiority complex. This is very obvious when you visit the Middle East and talk to people about their position in the world geopolitically and their is alot of resentmess of the U.S. position as the world superpower.

K

Thanks for the refreshing of the history lesson, but I was able to get a lot accomplished today. The proof arguement you are looking for, is similar to proving aliens exist. Countless stories, but no proof. Well we know we are the only life form in this entire universe. And for anyone to say any different, your arrogance level surpases god. I agree with you on exchanging ideas, but when you attack, expect to get attacked back.

Still didn't see anything but reference to the Japanese Mafia.

Sorry, i didn't see what you and another poster proved. Invalid link.

 

[Spectrum]

K

Thanks for the refreshing of the history lesson, but I was able to get a lot accomplished today. The proof arguement you are looking for, is similar to proving aliens exist. Countless stories, but no proof. Well we know we are the only life form in this entire universe. And for anyone to say any different, your arrogance level surpases god. I agree with you on exchanging ideas, but when you attack, expect to get attacked back.

Still didn't see anything but reference to the Japanese Mafia. Sorry

No..the proof isn't similar to the example to the example of aliens. We can't prove that aliens exists because we have no linking data and the entire though is subjective at this point. However, the other concepts are objective in nature. So no, the arguments is certainly not the same. I'm not worried about you attacking..but see i attached your logic...you stooped to making it a personal attacks because your concepts were threatened as opposed to countering with hard evidence. That thread you are looking for was posted on the main board..it was titled something like " I knew it: the u.s. government created hurricane katrina..it was a really long thread..like five pages.)

Actually, with the billions of possibilities of solar systems..i think it is hardly the reality that of all those possibible combinations, this planet is the only place where SOME form of life exists..at least in a bacterial form. But that is an argument between science and religioun..similar to creationist and evolutionists arguments.

 

[Makeherhappy]

No..the proof isn't similar to the example to the example of aliens. We can't prove that aliens exists because we have no linking data and the entire though is subjective at this point. However, the other concepts are objective in nature. So no, the arguments is certainly not the same. I'm not worried about you attacking..but see i attached your logic...you stooped to making it a personal attacks because your concepts were threatened as opposed to countering with hard evidence. That thread you are looking for was posted on the main board..it was titled something like " I knew it: the u.s. government created hurricane katrina..it was a really long thread..like five pages.)

Actually, with the billions of possibilities of solar systems..i think it is hardly the reality that of all those possibible combinations, this planet is the only place where SOME form of life exists..at least in a bacterial form. But that is an argument between science and religioun..similar to creationist and evolutionists arguments.

Where does stealth technology come from? You should reread you fired the first "stoop to making it personal attacks."

Can you clear up something you said, when I made reference to the Grand Chessboard, you said you will have to put it on your wishlist, but then you said you put the book down. Could you clear that up? Because right now, your position looks flawed. Please clear it up.

 

[Spectrum]

Where does stealth technology come from? You should reread you fired the first "stoop to making it personal attacks."

Can you clear up something you said, when I made reference to the Grand Chessboard, you said you will have to put it on your wishlist, but then you said you put the book down. Could you clear that up? Because right now, your position looks flawed. Please clear it up.

I don't think I ever made any claims about stealth technology?


Guttenberg Project: free copies of books in the digital form. If you haven't heard it of, i would suggest you check it out or other similar projects. If its a non business book that I know i wont read twice..i always go there first or to other free ebook sites so i don't have to buy it on amazon...even one of the similar books I mentioned was gotten from there. Someone mentioned that book about "the destruction of african civilization" that i plan to find either on gutenberg or other free ebook pdf sites. I'm definately going to cop the communist books that were mentioned but I can't find them in free ebook form..but those might be worth the buy.I read probably 3-4 books a week brah.

I'm known for that...if you cite a book and give a good reason why it should be read I will find online same day or buy it immediately at Amazon. i don't watch Tv or waste time doing other shit..i'm either coding, surfing the net, reading , or traveling abroad.

Just and FYI for you or for anyone who cops alot of books:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ has 16,000 books..but there are some knockoffs to the gutenberg as well that i have saved somewhere... there are also some message boards that exclusivly trade ebooks if you don't necessarily need the hard version..the gutenberg is great for Classics.

 

[Makkonnen]

Able Danger is a fact but the poster said: "9/11 = Military exercise (need I say, Able Danger)". I still don't understand (I could be missing it, as usual) the connection between 9-11 and military exercise ... and the same somehow being associated with Able Danger.

QueEx

i dont either but it is also fact that norad/military was having excercises against the same type of threat on 9-11 - i posted cynthia mckinney in hearings questioning rumsfeld about slavery and dod budgeting and she mentioned that shit too
i dont see how able danger connects to the excercises unless someone is asserting that the military new precisely that 9-11 would be the day of attack via able danger and scheduled the excercises to coincide so shit didnt get out of hand - whole lotta reachin with no evidence with that - not impossible but .........................

 

[Makeherhappy]

I don't think I ever made any claims about stealth technology?


Guttenberg Project: free copies of books in the digital form. If you haven't heard it of, i would suggest you check it out or other similar projects. If its a non business book that I know i wont read twice..i always go there first or to other free ebook sites so i don't have to buy it on amazon...even one of the similar books I mentioned was gotten from there. Someone mentioned that book about "the destruction of african civilization" that i plan to find either on gutenberg or other free ebook pdf sites. I'm definately going to cop the communist books that were mentioned but I can't find them in free ebook form..but those might be worth the buy.I read probably 3-4 books a week brah.

I'm known for that...if you cite a book and give a good reason why it should be read I will find online same day or buy it immediately at Amazon. i don't watch Tv or waste time doing other shit..i'm either coding, surfing the net, reading , or traveling abroad.

No i didn't say you made any claims about stealth technology. My bad, wanted to clear that up. I said stealth technology, because of the claims that it came from somewhere other than this planet. I don't have to proof for that, that's what people, including our elected officials have said over time.

I'll look for the commy books for you.

But,
Can you clear up something you said, when I made reference to the Grand Chessboard, you said you will have to put it on your wishlist, but then you said you put the book down. Could you clear that up? Because right now, your position looks flawed. Please clear it up.

I don't have time to read that many books a week. So you know where I'm coming from, CNN, MSNBC, FOX all equal comedy to me. When I need a good laugh, I watch them. Most of my news comes from Cspan, or different internet sites.

Some books are just that books, sold for entertainment purposes only.

In seriousness, I applaud you for your 3 to 4 books a week, I don't have the time. I would make no money in the business I'm in.

In closing, You have read a lot of books and seem to be verse in some of these areas, but you also have to know that the books "they" put out are part of a controlled media. So you can't be to quick to jump to certain sources. IT GOES BACK TO THE CENTER OF MY POINT, WE WILL NEVER KNOW BECAUSE THE POWERS THAT BE WILL RESTRICT INFORMATION IT DEEMS TO BE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT

 

[Spectrum]

No i didn't say you made any claims about stealth technology. My bad, wanted to clear that up. I said stealth technology, because of the claims that it came from somewhere other than this planet. I don't have to proof for that, that's what people, including our elected officials have said over time.

I'll look for the commy books for you.

But,
Can you clear up something you said, when I made reference to the Grand Chessboard, you said you will have to put it on your wishlist, but then you said you put the book down. Could you clear that up? Because right now, your position looks flawed. Please clear it up.

I've got it online.an electronic version..i sent the link to the gutenberg project..iwould always suggest checking there before buying if you don't mind ebooks...or going to other ebooks resources.

I don't have time to read that many books a week. So you know where I'm coming from, CNN, MSNBC, FOX all equal comedy to me. When I need a good laugh, I watch them. Most of my news comes from Cspan, or different internet sites.

I really can't speak on the quality of the news networks as I rarely watch them. But I can imagine that it hasn't changed much from the water down media coverage and half ass attempts at "unbaised" media coverage i've always enjoyed BBC...otherwise I've always though the mass media..specifically TV was nothing more than a dumb tube in most cases and everything is really watered down. I would rather read a book, journal, magazine, website, or something because I need to verify the sources and you can't with televion so that shit doesn't appeal to me..it is too easy to spin..case in point..that bullshit spin that people actually called "coverage" during the early days of Katrina in New Orleans. With the consolidation of the media industry and with standalone like Rupert Murdoph very blaintantly stated that he spins stories or focuses attention for his own political and economic gain..it's hard to find "unbaised" media covered..


Some books are just that books, sold for entertainment purposes only.

I agree

In seriousness, I applaud you for your 3 to 4 books a week, I don't have the time. I would make no money in the business I'm in.

I can read a 300 page book in about 4 hours. I took speed reading classes for about a year so it doesnt really effect my ability to do anything else...though come next year after I launch my new company I'm sure it will go down to 1/2 per week. It's just about managing time and being a fast reader. The woman that runs Mckinsey's consulting practice reads 100 non business related books per year. I'm sure she is rather busy as well running such a large company

In closing, You have read a lot of books and seem to be verse in some of these areas, but you also have to know that the books "they" put out are part of a controlled media. So you can't be to quick to jump to certain sources. IT GOES BACK TO THE CENTER OF MY POINT, WE WILL NEVER KNOW BECAUSE THE POWERS THAT BE WILL RESTRICT INFORMATION IT DEEMS TO BE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT

When you read alot of stuff from multiple different sources like I do and also being that my minor was Philosophy with a concentratio in Logic..i really don't have a hard time determing what is impossible, possible , plausible, logical, illogical, irrational, and everything in between. In regards to the last statement...all you really can do is evaluate all available information to best of your reason. That is why I love the internet..because it's also to find information..even if you have to sort through all the garbage to find the gems.

Peace

 

[QueEx]

Bumped from the archives.

 

[thoughtone]

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[Makeherhappy]

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LOL

This thread was a good funny one.

 

[VegasGuy]

...I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESRTING

1. There were 39 combat related killings in
Iraq during the month of January.....

In the fair city of Detroit there were 35
murders during the month of January.

That's just one American city, about as
deadly as the entire war torn country
of Iraq.


2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the
following .

FDR...led us into World War II. Germany
never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman...finished that war and started one
in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.

From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,
an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam
conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an
average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or
French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.

He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple
occasions.

3. In the two years since terrorists attacked
us:

President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without
firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his
own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch
Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less
time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing
records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy
the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police
after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.

Interesting post. Even good.

-VG

 

[actinanass]

if he wanted to invade iraq....he should have been honest...i dont like these motherfuckers and that motherfucker tried to kill my father...i would have questioned the shit but i would have respected the fact that he was honest..that's the only prob. they sent powell at the u.n. and basically made him and the u.s. look like idiots...and then he fails us in the hurricanes, i mean this dude here does not need to be a president..i respect the facts but i feel out of all those leaders he is the weakest out of all of em...

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so I guess Gore was lying too?

 

[QueEx]

interesting enough to push it back to the top.

 

[actinanass]

KFQ,

Its too easy to get the point of the article, but its a useless use of useless statistics. Turn them on their head, and they could support any proposition one wants them to support. I know, I've been redundant; redundantly using useless and support. But, LOL, thats what I think of the article: useless support.

QueEx

for all this time, I thought you were the smart one....

 

[Upgrade Dave]

...I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESRTING

1. There were 39 combat related killings in
Iraq during the month of January.....

In the fair city of Detroit there were 35
murders during the month of January.

That's just one American city, about as
deadly as the entire war torn country
of Iraq.


2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the
following .

FDR...led us into World War II. Germany
never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman...finished that war and started one
in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.

From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,
an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam
conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an
average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or
French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.

He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple
occasions.

3. In the two years since terrorists attacked
us:

President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without
firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his
own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch
Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less
time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing
records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy
the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police
after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.

Filled with lies and inaccuracies.

I don't have time to chop them all up right now.

 

[14damoney]

Woooowww... I know I'm fairly new here but I had never seen this thread before until today.

I know this thread is approaching 3 yrs old, and I'm hoping that some change of heart or greater insight has been gained by some of its participants.

With all due respect, the original OP's comments sadden the hell out of me.

2. "When some claim President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the
following ".... [Blah Blah Blah] ..."Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or
French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.

He [Clinton} was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple
occasions."



Wooowww. First of all OSAMA is DEAD (since at least December 2001.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

Watch how Benazir Bhutto mentioned Osama's death as if it was common knowledge (But apparently not common enough in the U.S).

http://www.casinoaffiliateportal.co...stan_bhutto_said_osama_bin_laden_was_dead.htm


Osama had been on the CIA payroll for YEARS.

...In 1986, bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques (he has a degree in civil engineering), he built “training camps”, some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them.

These camps, now dubbed “terrorist universities” by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers...

http://www.greenleft.org.au/2001/465/25199



Eventually, dude's health got to the point wherein he needed dialysis (you know... like renal issues/KIDNEY FAILURE. Can't do too much ducking and diving in caves with THAT conditon can you?).

It's well documented that the Bush family have been in bed with the Bin-Laden family for some time even though Osama was supposed to be the black sheep. After all, prior to being the VP and finally President of the U.S., what was Daddy Bush's job title? None other than the director of the CIA. Top-Dog status.

Where was Osama on 9/11?

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060909&articleId=3194

It seems some are convinced that this war wasn't created for the personal goals of certain individuals in positions of power as opposed to our "security". Ask someone living in New Orleans circa 2005 how secure they felt. Do you really think the moves that were being made for the last decade or so were for your best interests? SMMH .

Ever hear of Mein Kampf (Where Hitler basically laid out his plan before following it almost to a tee)? What? Didn't think that could happen again? Allow me to introduce PNAC:

http://www.oilempire.us/pnac.html

Written in the late 90's - 2000 it clearly stated that they needed a "Pearl Harbour type of event" to get Americans to back a war. Then Abracadabera! The WTC towers 1&2 fell soon after (also WTC 7 later that day without being hit by a plane. Never mind that though, I guess it's too insignificant).

In addition, it's authors and "cosigners" are basically a "who's who" of Bush Jr.'s first administration. Coincidence? Not likely.


I see why only a select few posters involved themselves with this thread...it's to much work to root out the BS. I want to go further, but fkit there's other stuff to do.

...By the way Original OP. At one point you spoke as if traveling to the Middle East and "collabing" with some of the locals there makes you the supreme authority on those matters as opposed to all of us lesser beings. I personally can assure you that it does not. Peace.

 

[nyyyyce]

Woooowww... I know I'm fairly new here but I had never seen this thread before until today.

I know this thread is approaching 3 yrs old, and I'm hoping that some change of heart or greater insight has been gained by some of its participants.

With all due respect, the original OP's comments sadden the hell out of me.

2. "When some claim President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the
following ".... [Blah Blah Blah] ..."Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or
French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.

He [Clinton} was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple
occasions."



Wooowww. First of all OSAMA is DEAD (since at least December 2001.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

Watch how Benazir Bhutto mentioned Osama's death as if it was common knowledge (But apparently not common enough in the U.S).

http://www.casinoaffiliateportal.co...stan_bhutto_said_osama_bin_laden_was_dead.htm


Osama had been on the CIA payroll for YEARS.

...In 1986, bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques (he has a degree in civil engineering), he built “training camps”, some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them.

These camps, now dubbed “terrorist universities” by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers...

http://www.greenleft.org.au/2001/465/25199



Eventually, dude's health got to the point wherein he needed dialysis (you know... like renal issues/KIDNEY FAILURE. Can't do too much ducking and diving in caves with THAT conditon can you?).

It's well documented that the Bush family have been in bed with the Bin-Laden family for some time even though Osama was supposed to be the black sheep. After all, prior to being the VP and finally President of the U.S., what was Daddy Bush's job title? None other than the director of the CIA. Top-Dog status.

Where was Osama on 9/11?

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060909&articleId=3194

It seems some are convinced that this war wasn't created for the personal goals of certain individuals in positions of power as opposed to our "security". Ask someone living in New Orleans circa 2005 how secure they felt. Do you really think the moves that were being made for the last decade or so were for your best interests? SMMH .

Ever hear of Mein Kampf (Where Hitler basically laid out his plan before following it almost to a tee)? What? Didn't think that could happen again? Allow me to introduce PNAC:

http://www.oilempire.us/pnac.html

Written in the late 90's - 2000 it clearly stated that they needed a "Pearl Harbour type of event" to get Americans to back a war. Then Abracadabera! The WTC towers 1&2 fell soon after (also WTC 7 later that day without being hit by a plane. Never mind that though, I guess it's too insignificant).

In addition, it's authors and "cosigners" are basically a "who's who" of Bush Jr.'s first administration. Coincidence? Not likely.


I see why only a select few posters involved themselves with this thread...it's to much work to root out the BS. I want to go further, but fkit there's other stuff to do.

...By the way Original OP. At one point you spoke as if traveling to the Middle East and "collabing" with some of the locals there makes you the supreme authority on those matters as opposed to all of us lesser beings. I personally can assure you that it does not. Peace.

Gat damn. Good post slim!