thanks for clearing up centuries of debate about the properties of 'god' by fiat...i see (again) that you skip the part of the debate where a 'god' is shown to/agreed to 'exist' tho.
How was "Space" created before the Universe
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thanks for clearing up centuries of debate about the properties of 'god' by fiat...i see (again) that you skip the part of the debate where a 'god' is shown to/agreed to 'exist' tho.
@ least people are kicking around ideas!
I appreciate the food for thought!
This thread is 100X better than the rap shit
Or gossip bs that dominates the board, &
Even porn!
as far as you can observe... however i propose that all things are rotating in the same direction...
in time AND in space simultaneously. if you consider everything that we observe as matter falling or traveling forward in time. also if you consider time as a tumbling motion which would explain wavelengths of matter and matter acting as particles and vice versa. i've been drinking a lil.
Fuzzy_McNut
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thanks for clearing up centuries of debate about the properties of 'god' by fiat...i see (again) that you skip the part of the debate where a 'god' is shown to/agreed to 'exist' tho.
Yu don't need proof of what made god t know god exists. Our existance came from something.
Would you at least agree that something created the universe
and I admit, I got into a lot of areas I don't know much about, but I used these idiots as a sounding board for a bit, plus I wanted to know what kinda coocoo replies they would come with.
It's made me more sad than anything though
Fuzzy_McNut
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thanks for clearing up centuries of debate about the properties of 'god' by fiat...i see (again) that you skip the part of the debate where a 'god' is shown to/agreed to 'exist' tho.
Yu don't need proof of what made god t know god exists. Our existance came from something.
Would you at least agree that something created the universe
Fuzzy_McNut
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thanks for clearing up centuries of debate about the properties of 'god' by fiat...i see (again) that you skip the part of the debate where a 'god' is shown to/agreed to 'exist' tho.
Yu don't need proof of what made god t know god exists. Our existance came from something.
Would you at least agree that something created the universe
See there now your just hating! Don't you know with the internet you can now wiki/google "space", "universe", "evolution", "science" and be knowledgeable on par with PhD's? Get with the gotdamn program JG!
I'll be the FIRST to say that I'm NO SCIENTIST. I am a science ENTHUSIAST.
And the best 3-word combo regarding existence's most puzzling phenomenon is . . . I. DON'T. KNOW. . . . Then I work from there.
But shit, I got BGOL. Too clever-by-half mothafuckas be on here KNOWING science AND god without knowing science, or explaining/defining god. So I'mma just lurk and learn.
JG
And the best 3-word combo regarding existence's most puzzling phenomenon is . . . I. DON'T. KNOW. . . . Then I work from there.
But shit, I got BGOL. Too clever-by-half mothafuckas be on here KNOWING science AND god without knowing science, or explaining/defining god. So I'mma just lurk and learn.
JG
That sounds like blind faith!
There's no such thing as creation.
Everything that is, always has been.
I'll be the FIRST to say that I'm NO SCIENTIST. I am a science ENTHUSIAST.
And the best 3-word combo regarding existence's most puzzling phenomenon is . . . I. DON'T. KNOW. . . . Then I work from there.
But shit, I got BGOL. Too clever-by-half mothafuckas be on here KNOWING science AND god without knowing science, or explaining/defining god. So I'mma just lurk and learn.
JG
Maybe your too slow to get it. Hell i thought i was closer to being a scientist compared to most of these cats..little did i know we have published authors(what papers is not the point) on BGOL, breaking down in threads what it has taken some a lifetime to generate and validate as a single thesis....
Darwins "evolution" the most tested scientific theory over the past 100+ years! meh! BGOL proves it bullshit in a matter of mins...
Expanding Universe? bunk! We don't need no stinking Remote sensing, Hubble, Doppler Shift tools! BGOL has already proven its crap made up by stupid white scientist!
I say again JG you better read faster man, keep up! Get your shit together man.
What the hell I thinking!!! You sir are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. I am on it!!! Got me in here feeling like Halo without the books!!!
JG
Life as we know it is just a "thought" belonging to the universe. It's all apart of the universe's imagination, ain't none of this is real. I'm starting to believe that if you concentrate hard enough and focus your thoughts... you can change your reality. Since nothing can create something n' shit. 
Also... It's funny how we were nothing until our parents had sex and created us. Wouldn't that make our parents our "gods"?
And where the hell was our "Nothing" asses at and what was we doing before became something?
It's funny how we have to have sex to create life.... Instead of niggas just popping up out of thin air. Sounds like that was a tactic that the "ultimate creator" used to cover up the truth of how things form from nothing.
When humans figure this puzzle out.... we're going to be time traveling, universe hopping and space bending like a motherfucker. That's some scary shit. Maybe when we die we're transferred to another dimension where we learn to adapt with a "reset memory" (also known as heaven or hell).
I don't know hell... fuck this thread. 
Also... It's funny how we were nothing until our parents had sex and created us. Wouldn't that make our parents our "gods"?
And where the hell was our "Nothing" asses at and what was we doing before became something?
It's funny how we have to have sex to create life.... Instead of niggas just popping up out of thin air. Sounds like that was a tactic that the "ultimate creator" used to cover up the truth of how things form from nothing.
When humans figure this puzzle out.... we're going to be time traveling, universe hopping and space bending like a motherfucker. That's some scary shit. Maybe when we die we're transferred to another dimension where we learn to adapt with a "reset memory" (also known as heaven or hell).
I don't know hell... fuck this thread.
My head hurts now after ya'll got me thinking how nothing created something. Then dude asked, "What created god?".
I don't see how dieing isn't of anyone concerns. Seeing as how when we die.. we are basically turned into nothing again. Just as it was before we were born for infinity.
Kind of feel as if "life" is just a thought that's thought of. We create thoughts and dreams from nothing.
What I said makes sense to me.
Just like when rumors spread. The more people it go through... the more false information gets added to it until it reaches the target.
Ancients probably knew more and had more of an accurate explanation because they were closest to "The beginning". Modern day humans added inaccurate information to the pie with their sciences and theories... got the world believing them and continuing to spread the rumor.
i wouldn't rule out the idea...however it is very easy to start slipping down a rabbit hole by attributing properties/morality to it.
Life as we know it is just a "thought" belonging to the universe. It's all apart of the universe's imagination, ain't none of this is real. I'm starting to believe that if you concentrate hard enough and focus your thoughts... you can change your reality. Since nothing can create something n' shit.
Also... It's funny how we were nothing until our parents had sex and created us. Wouldn't that make our parents our "gods"?
And where the hell was our "Nothing" asses at and what was we doing before became something?
It's funny how we have to have sex to create life.... Instead of niggas just popping up out of thin air. Sounds like that was a tactic that the "ultimate creator" used to cover up the truth of how things form from nothing.
When humans figure this puzzle out.... we're going to be time traveling, universe hopping and space bending like a motherfucker. That's some scary shit. Maybe when we die we're transferred to another dimension where we learn to adapt with a "reset memory" (also known as heaven or hell).
I don't know hell... fuck this thread.
Take away all the complex theories that get more complex and crazier just to make it fit, take away all the complex mathematics, that only a few can begin to make heads and tails from it.
Take away all the religious bs that is as accurate as a newsstand comic book, take away all that good stuff and let the dust settle and you are left with one simple riddle "Where did all this stuff come from". The big bang says its from the singularity, but fails to address where the singularity, came from, at best they put it off and said that there was a universe before,
but that is just passing the buck, the religious people say its god, but then they only use that to define who and what god is, and thats where the BS comes in.
I say what ever it is that created something from nothing has to be the greatest power in the universe, both thesis and science would agree.
Greater than gravity (which cant produce something from nothing), greater than Electromagnetic (which cant produce something form nothing), greater than the Strong Force (you know this cant produce something from nothing) nether can the Weak Force....
So what ever this super force is it is the greatest force of them all, now if I or some scientist were to name this force Phi or some other name, no scientist would have a problem with it.
But I choose to call this force God, or the God force, the greatest force of the universe and beyond.
Now what do you guys turn around and say? Show me the force of God and where did this force come from...... As if you guys can see any of the other lower forces and have a clue to where they came from...
Yet they have no problems believing in them.......
let's not forget, that only white people used religion to subjugate other people; everybody else used religion for peace and harmony (forget human sacrifice tho).
People that don't believe what they cannot explain lack faith. Many great discoveries were based on faith.
They question peoples belief in GOD but believe an explosion came from no where and created what is now the universe. But what ignited this explosion if nothing existed before it? Their idiots. Let there be light and there was light. Simple.
Take away all the complex theories that get more complex and crazier just to make it fit, take away all the complex mathematics, that only a few can begin to make heads and tails from it.
Take away all the religious bs that is as accurate as a newsstand comic book, take away all that good stuff and let the dust settle and you are left with one simple riddle "Where did all this stuff come from". The big bang says its from the singularity, but fails to address where the singularity, came from, at best they put it off and said that there was a universe before,
but that is just passing the buck, the religious people say its god, but then they only use that to define who and what god is, and thats where the BS comes in.
I say what ever it is that created something from nothing has to be the greatest power in the universe, both thesis and science would agree.
Greater than gravity (which cant produce something from nothing), greater than Electromagnetic (which cant produce something form nothing), greater than the Strong Force (you know this cant produce something from nothing) nether can the Weak Force....
So what ever this super force is it is the greatest force of them all, now if I or some scientist were to name this force Phi or some other name, no scientist would have a problem with it.
But I choose to call this force God, or the God force, the greatest force of the universe and beyond.
Now what do you guys turn around and say? Show me the force of God and where did this force come from...... As if you guys can see any of the other lower forces and have a clue to where they came from...
Yet they have no problems believing in them.......
the problem really starts when people start attributing properties, and morality to this "force"
Take away all the complex theories that get more complex and crazier just to make it fit, take away all the complex mathematics, that only a few can begin to make heads and tails from it.
Take away all the religious bs that is as accurate as a newsstand comic book, take away all that good stuff and let the dust settle and you are left with one simple riddle "Where did all this stuff come from". The big bang says its from the singularity, but fails to address where the singularity, came from, at best they put it off and said that there was a universe before,
but that is just passing the buck, the religious people say its god, but then they only use that to define who and what god is, and thats where the BS comes in.
I say what ever it is that created something from nothing has to be the greatest power in the universe, both thesis and science would agree.
Greater than gravity (which cant produce something from nothing), greater than Electromagnetic (which cant produce something form nothing), greater than the Strong Force (you know this cant produce something from nothing) nether can the Weak Force....
So what ever this super force is it is the greatest force of them all, now if I or some scientist were to name this force Phi or some other name, no scientist would have a problem with it.
But I choose to call this force God, or the God force, the greatest force of the universe and beyond.
Now what do you guys turn around and say? Show me the force of God and where did this force come from...... As if you guys can see any of the other lower forces and have a clue to where they came from...
Yet they have no problems believing in them.......
If another force do exist its not in this dimension. It's not in our universe.
What if that singularity point in the entrance/exit to another dimension? Another dimension creating our universe because a dimension greater than ours eliminates any physical possibilities that we use to theorize the existence of our universe.
anything and everything can be examined to the point of mystification.
matter even gets allusive at the atomic level, so how do all you cocky brothers choose what to believe or not?
it's all essentially an exercise in faith, the only question is whether you only believe in matter; or will you expand into the spiritual
matter even gets allusive at the atomic level, so how do all you cocky brothers choose what to believe or not?
it's all essentially an exercise in faith, the only question is whether you only believe in matter; or will you expand into the spiritual
Thats why I mentioned greatest force and beyond. But to keep the subject lite, lets only focus on our dimension, but where we live at is complicated enough, shit we can only see and observe way less than 4% of the stuff here so I think it very presumptuous to assume we have a grasp of things in our own dimension let alone some other one.
You guys have to understand there is a physical side of god = the male principle, which is strait forward and easy to get (especially with the something from nothing), but there is also the female principle (the spiritual side) that is a bit more harder to grasp and cannot be understood unless the male principle is comprehended. This is why I choose not to discuss it as of yet. But like the male principle I can absolutely prove its existence using the physical world. Its just more complicated, (hint DNA)....
I only ask because I believe the answer is bigger than our dimension. Our universe are governed by basic physical laws. Humans have yet to become sophisticated enough to manipulate any of the physical laws (i.e. breaking Newton's law of motion).
How much do you think time play in the existence of this "greatest" force? Is this force existing in 0 time? In other words, do this force have speed?
Very true.......
But if you had to chose which would go with scientist opinions or religious opinions?
Depends on how I was feeling at that point in my life... right this second I don't really care how the universe was created and I hate listening to convincing lies... but at least the religious one is gonna be entertaining... but if you mean "go with" like "live by" I'm good... ignorance gonna be bliss for me
peace
To have speed or motions there have to be at least two bodies of reference. But to answer your question, does any of the lesser forces of the universe have speed or is effected by time? I suspect that God has more in common with the lesser forces of the universe than anything we can speculate on.
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