How America's Top Colleges Avoid Real Diversity

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Back in March, as colleges began to herald their newly admitted classes for PR purposes, the Ivy League schools got to patting themselves on the back.

The Harvard Gazette bragged that Harvard’s newest batch of accepted students included record numbers of blacks and Latinos. Brown said its admitted class was “the most racially … diverse“ in the school’s centuries-long history. Dartmouth shared actual percentages, declaring that a full 44 percent of its newest class was composed of students of color. Coincidentally, that was the same percentage of minorities in Penn’s freshman class.

Numbers like these might lead someone to believe that diversity is no longer an issue at America’s most elite colleges. Like everyone else, students of color have long strived to make it to the Ivy League, where the education and connections can set a person up for life. Now, evidently, huge numbers of minorities are getting their chance. When nearly half of an Ivy League school’s accepted class is made up of people of color—America as a whole is only 47 percent non-white (PDF)—aren’t we nearing perfect equality? If only.

It turns out the Ivy League’s racial diversity stats are only half the story. People in search of egalitarianism at places like Harvard and Columbia shouldn’t just be asking what color students are, but where they’re from, too.

Call it the Ivy League’s dirty little secret: While America’s most elite colleges do in fact make it a point to promote ethnic diversity on their campuses, a lot of them do so by admitting hugely disproportionate numbers of wealthy immigrants and their children rather than black students with deep roots—and troubled histories—in the United States.

Data shows that African immigrants, Nigerians in particular, are far wealthier and more highly educated than many Americans of any race

The problem, of course, isn’t that black immigrants are going to Ivy League schools in large numbers; educational success should be applauded no matter where the student is from. But the large numbers of African immigrants on American college campuses, coupled with the remarkably small numbers of native blacks on those same campuses, calls into question the effectiveness of America’s affirmative action programs. While affirmative action started as a system to right the wrongs of slavery and institutional anti-black racism, helping wealthy immigrants who weren’t here for those struggles doesn’t serve any of the program's original intentions.

“Very few black students [at Harvard] were able to be categorized under the term ‘just black,’” says Joy Alison Cooper. Cooper graduated from Harvard in 2006 and is now a Fogarty Scholar doing clinical research in Nairobi, Kenya. “There was an overrepresentation of Africans,” she says, “and specifically Nigerians. Nigerians were so numerous that in my senior year, my best friend helped start the Nigerian Students Association.”

The statistics are striking: Though African immigrants, many of them from Nigeria and Ghana, make up less than 1 percent of America's total population, first- and second-generation black immigrants comprise 41 percent of all black students at Ivy League schools, according to 2007 research from teams at Princeton and Penn. Another study, this one published in Sociology of Education in 2009, found that immigrant blacks attended select colleges at almost four times the rate of native-born African Americans. Outside of the Ivy League, almost 44 percent of African immigrants graduated from a four-year college, compared to just 18 percent of native blacks.

None of this would matter if black Americans and their immigrant counterparts were gunning for the Ivies from a level playing field. But they’re not. Data shows that African immigrants, Nigerians in particular, are far wealthier and more highly educated than many Americans of any race. In 2000, when the median household income for African Americans was about $30,000, the median income for Nigerian immigrant families was more than $45,000 (PDF). Where education is concerned, in 2007, African immigrants were likelier to have obtained a college or graduate degree than any other immigrant population, and 20 percent likelier than the U.S. population as a whole.

In 2000, when the median household income for African Americans was about $30,000, the median income for Nigerian immigrant families was more than $45,000

It’s easy to chalk these numbers up to the myth that immigrants work harder than native blacks, but studies say that’s wrong. According to the aforementioned sociological research from 2009, immigrant students don’t value education more than native blacks or perform significantly better academically. Rather, they have the financial resources required to get a leg-up into the highest echelons of academia.

“When we compare immigrant blacks to African Americans from similar family socioeconomic backgrounds, we find no significant differences between them in their chances of attending college,” says Pamela Bennett, one of the study’s authors and an assistant professor at Johns Hopkins. “Our findings indicate that [African immigrants] have greater resources, in the form of family structure and private school attendance, that are universally helpful in providing opportunities to go to college.” (“Family structure” means that African immigrants are less likely to live in single-parent households than native blacks.)

Teresa Wiltz, senior editor of black politics and culture website The Root, graduated from Dartmouth in the 1980s. She says that a lot of her black peers did benefit from programs helping low-income minorities, but the African immigrants with whom she went to school were very affluent. “There was a group of Ethiopian students there, two of whom were the relatives of [Ethiopian Emperor] Haile Selassie,” she tells me. “Yes, they came from highly privileged backgrounds, but they were also exiles thanks to the revolution there. There was also a group of Ghanaian students—all men.”

Emails and phone calls to Brown, Yale, and Princeton requesting interviews about their admissions processes went unanswered. Emails to members and former members of Harvard's Nigerian Student's Association also went unanswered. Harvard senior communications officer Jeff Neal wrote in an email, “Harvard College seeks to admit the most interesting, able, and diverse class possible, regardless of individual background. … There are no quotas of any kind. We rely on teachers, counselors, headmasters, and alumni to share information with us about applicants' strength of character, their ability to overcome adversity, and other personal qualities—all of which play a part in admissions decisions.”

In his book The Trouble With Diversity: How We Learned to Love Identity and Ignore Inequality, University of Illinois at Chicago English professor Walter Benn Michaels laments that colleges have abandoned real affirmative action programs in order to promote a more general sense of diversity, which presumes that all black people are alike regardless of income or place of birth. “The trouble with diversity … is not just that it won’t solve the problem of economic inequality," he writes, "it’s that it makes it hard for us to even see the problem.”

For her part, Cooper, the Harvard graduate, says what she observed in black immigrant students wasn’t more smarts or a lot more money, but a will to succeed that hadn’t been quashed by decades of oppression. “Descendants of slaves came here on a ship as chattel, not on a plane or inner tube with hopes of an American dream,” she says. “Honestly, I believe it's difficult to strive for better when you already live in what people name the American dream, but what you have lived is a nightmare.”
 
It's not that the will has been quashed by decades of oppression but that the will is not there at all, for whatever reason. If we as a community put emphasis on bettering life and having some drive instead of looking for the easy way out, perhaps there would be a bigger representation of American born Black students in institutions like these.
 
this reflects american racism more than african achievement.
america will only accept africa's best, while any old mexican or
european can come over in droves.

africans also enjoy some privilege here in the states, that african-americans don't, for 2 main reasons.
1.)there isn't the same bitter history between africans and white americans; so whites feel less uncomfortable with them,
2.)they don't view any african culture as a degenerate bastardization of their own culture, like they view african-american culture.
 
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Good read, I'm interested in seeing what the BGOL response is to this
Is it? When you think of this forum and its wealthiest members, is there an underlining theme?

It's not that the will has been quashed by decades of oppression but that the will is not there at all, for whatever reason. If we as a community put emphasis on bettering life and having some drive instead of looking for the easy way out, perhaps there would be a bigger representation of American born Black students in institutions like these.
Black Americans are the luckiest motherfuckers ever, and they insist on being losers. Im going to be succinct here: If you can't succeed in America, you just suck at existing. This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down.
 
I didn't get that from the article. What I got was further proof that it's not about race, religion, or whatever divisive acts we can come up with; it's about money. Whoever has it, gets to keep it. Whoever lacks better pray to god for a revolution. And one thing god has taught us about revolutions are they normally solve squat.
this represents american racism more than african achievement.
america will only accept africa's best, while any old mexican or
european can come over in droves.

africans also enjoy some privilege here in the states than african-americans don't for 2 main reasons.
there isn't the same bitter history between africans and white americans so whites feel less uncomfortable with them,
and they don't view any african culture as a degenerate bastardization of their own culture like the view african-american culture.
 
Is it? When you think of this forum and its wealthiest members, is there an underlining theme?

It was a good read because it was an interesting topic not discussed everyday. I'm not co-signing what Ivy League Schools are doing or what BGOL's wealthiest members think. It's an excellent topic to debate. Especially the part of the article that addresses the perceived disparity (if any) in the value of education between Africans and African Americans
 
Is it? When you think of this forum and its wealthiest members, is there an underlining theme?

Black Americans are the luckiest motherfuckers ever, and they insist on being losers. Im going to be succinct here: If you can't succeed in America, you just suck at existing. This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down.

The infinite greatness of people who aren't Black. If you know how to get around certain things and work hard you can succeed in this country no matter what color your skin is. But the truth is that most Blacks here either don't see where they can succeed or don't want to try to succeed. Mediocrity has become the norm and people like it.
 
Is it? When you think of this forum and its wealthiest members, is there an underlining theme?

Black Americans are the luckiest motherfuckers ever, and they insist on being losers. Im going to be succinct here: If you can't succeed in America, you just suck at existing. This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down.


You're going to get killed for this, but its true.
 
I didn't get that from the article. What I got was further proof that it's not about race, religion, or whatever divisive acts we can come up with; it's about money. Whoever has it, gets to keep it. Whoever lacks better pray to god for a revolution. And one thing god has taught us about revolutions are they normally solve squat.

The money discussion didn't quite grab me though fam, because the difference between $45k and 30k isn't that wide, It's not like they are admitting multiple 7+ figure families if the income median is $5k. I didn't get that
 
I didn't get that from the article. What I got was further proof that it's not about race, religion, or whatever divisive acts we can come up with; it's about money. Whoever has it, gets to keep it. Whoever lacks better pray to god for a revolution. And one thing god has taught us about revolutions are they normally solve squat.

i was mostly addressing this. it shows why they would be preferred beyond the obvious cash cow...

Call it the Ivy League’s dirty little secret: While America’s most elite colleges do in fact make it a point to promote ethnic diversity on their campuses, a lot of them do so by admitting hugely disproportionate numbers of wealthy immigrants and their children rather than black students with deep roots—and troubled histories—in the United States.
 
The infinite greatness of people who aren't Black. If you know how to get around certain things and work hard you can succeed in this country no matter what color your skin is. But the truth is that most Blacks here either don't see where they can succeed or don't want to try to succeed. Mediocrity has become the norm and people like it.
These Ivy League Africans will return to their countries and either continue the fuckery or begin the resistance of colonization.

First, I'm an immigrant so my opinion is probably bias. White people aren't your friend, they will never be your friend and Black Americans will never grasp this concept. And because of this head start, in addition to their family fortune, they can come to the "land of opportunities" and thrive.
 
i was mostly addressing this...

There's nothing to address: the poor is stupid and they still don't understand their language. If you are black and this country for awhile, you're more than likely poor. Harvard, Yale, etc, aren't about enlightening the poor. It goes against the definition of being "elite".
 
There's nothing to address: the poor is stupid and they still don't understand their language. If you are black and this country for awhile, you're more than likely poor. Harvard, Yale, etc, aren't about enlightening the poor. It goes against the definition of being "elite".

last i checked the poverty rate among african americans was below 30%. how is this statement true?


in the article african american and poor isn't enough justification for their preference, which is why along with income levels between nigerians and african americans, they mention bitter histories [presumably between whites and black americans], and achievement levels; i.e. africa's best [which what i was addressing].
 
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This is well known and should be classified as fraud when they report diversity numbers. How many times have you filled out some paperwork that asked if you were a non-hispanic white? Now compare that to how many times you had to fill out paperwork asking whether you were a non-african black. They're quick to seperate white looking mexicans and cubans from themselves but they want to lump together africans and american black people.
 
These Ivy League Africans will return to their countries and either continue the fuckery or begin the resistance of colonization.

First, I'm an immigrant so my opinion is probably bias. White people aren't your friend, they will never be your friend and Black Americans will never grasp this concept. And because of this head start, in addition to their family fortune, they can come to the "land of opportunities" and thrive.

I agree with the bold.

However most american born Blacks think the same thing. Probably because you are an immigrant this is something that you can't grasp until you start to talk to all types of people and I don't mean these young, ignant folks either.

I can see how immigrants will come over and thrive, and part of their perception of america is part of the reason why maybe Black people don't see a point in trying, because we see what's behind the wool. My problem is that there would, (or should), be at many Black americans as there are Black immigrants if the drive was there. Immigrants have more of a drive and as a result they 'thrive'. For whatever the reason Black people don't have that hungry in their system, seems to be the same/part of the same reason why immigrants DO.
 
interesting. this lil secret is coming out now!!! this lady at work asked if i wore clothes in Africa? :D

I told her no and i prefer women who go "commando". she laughed it off. :lol::lol::lol:
 
It's playing with the English language for the NAACP.
This is well known and should be classified as fraud when they report diversity numbers. How many times have you filled out some paperwork that asked if you were a non-hispanic white? Now compare that to how many times you had to fill out paperwork asking whether you were a non-african black. They're quick to seperate white looking mexicans and cubans from themselves but they want to lump together africans and american black people.
 
Black Americans are the luckiest motherfuckers ever, and they insist on being losers. Im going to be succinct here: If you can't succeed in America, you just suck at existing. This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down.

And most of these bastards talk about moving to another country.:confused: 80% percent of them would be trying to come back within a month. During my last deployment, I had the chance to sit an talk with a few Ugandans (our hired Army in Iraq), and some of these guys were tutoring American soldiers with online college courses. They are teachers, and engineers in their home country, and are relegated to pulling guard duty on American bases for about a thousand dollars a month.:(
 
Interesting article. I think I always knew this about "diversity" at elite institutions.

I think Harvard is one of the schools where if you keep up your academic end, don't know the exact parameters, and your parents make under $60,000 can go for free.

In any regard, if anyone of color in America wants their kid to go to college and live the American dream, they need to focus on Ivy League and elite state schools only, for free. That is the only way it will be worth it.
 
Interesting article. I think I always knew this about "diversity" at elite institutions.

I think Harvard is one of the schools where if you keep up your academic end, don't know the exact parameters, and your parents make under $60,000 can go for free.

In any regard, if anyone of color in America wants their kid to go to college and live the American dream, they need to focus on Ivy League and elite state schools only, for free. That is the only way it will be worth it.

Did not know this.


Georgia Tech has something like this too, which surprised me.
 
If you "pay" for a higher education in this country, you're doing something wrong.

That's another thread in and of itself. We shouldn't be paying for higher education, (or education period), at all. If you're a citizen of Cuba you can even get a Master's degree on the states dime.
 
It's ironic that Black-Africans think that Black-Americans have it made and America is the land of opportunity, when it was the the enslavement of Africans brought America that caused it to be such a rich country of opportunity in the first place.
 
Is it? When you think of this forum and its wealthiest members, is there an underlining theme?

Black Americans are the luckiest motherfuckers ever, and they insist on being losers. Im going to be succinct here: If you can't succeed in America, you just suck at existing. This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down.

Yeah you really need to go sit yo ass down and STFU.....

Everything that blacks obtained in this country has been gained by bloodshed.....

Repeat....STFU....

and Africans wouldn t even be here if it wasn t for that same bloodshed of African Americans.....

This country was built on the premise of infinite greatness, don't let the forefathers down

Muthafucka this country was built by black people......period....

go read something before you call the Richest Africans in the world (ie African Americans) loser....
 
Yeah you really need to go sit yo ass down and STFU.....

Everything that blacks obtained in this country has been gained by bloodshed.....

Repeat....STFU....

and Africans wouldn t even be here if it wasn t for that same bloodshed of African Americans.....



Muthafucka this country was built by black people......period....

go read something before you call the Richest Africans in the world (ie African Americans) loser....

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and Africans wouldn t even be here if it wasn t for that same bloodshed of African Americans.....


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"In 1909, Kwame Nkrumah was born to Madam Nyaniba[2][3] in Nkroful, Gold Coast.[4][5] Nkrumah graduated from the Achimota School in Accra in 1930,[1] studied at a Roman Catholic seminary, and taught at a Catholic school in Axim. In 1935 he left Ghana for the United States, receiving a BA from Lincoln University, Pennsylvania in 1939, where he pledged the Mu Chapter of Phi Beta Sigma fraternity, and received a Bachelor of Sacred Theology in 1942. Nkrumah earned a Master of Science in education from the University of Pennsylvania in 1942, and a Master of Arts in philosophy the following year. While lecturing in political science at Lincoln he was elected president of the African Students Organization of America and Canada. As an undergraduate at Lincoln he participated in at least one student theater production and published an essay on European government in Africa in the student newspaper, The Lincolnian.[6]
During his time in the United States, Nkrumah preached at black Presbyterian Churches in Philadelphia and New York City.[citation needed] He read books about politics and divinity, and tutored students in philosophy. Nkrumah encountered the ideas of Marcus Garvey and in 1943 met and began a lengthy correspondence with Trinidadian Marxist C.L.R. James, Russian expatriate Raya Dunayevskaya, and Chinese-American Grace Lee Boggs, all of whom were members of a US based Trotskyist intellectual cohort.
Nkrumah later credited James with teaching him 'how an underground movement worked'.
He arrived in London in May 1945 intending to study at the LSE.[citation needed] After meeting with George Padmore, he helped organize the Fifth Pan-African Congress in Manchester, England. Then he founded the West African National Secretariat to work for the decolonization of Africa. Nkrumah served as Vice-President of the West African Students' Union (WASU).
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We were always coming and going to come.
 
^^^^^^^^^The America he came to in 1935 was build on the bloodshed of African-Americans. Show me an African who came to America in the 17 or 1800's and did all that.
 
^^^^^^^^^The America he came to in 1935 was build on the bloodshed of African-Americans. Show me an African who came to America in the 17 or 1800's and did all that.

If it was as simple as that then why did not any other of the American countries, who were built on the bloodshed of African slaves, turn into USA?
 
i can see now that if africans get both of their feet in the door here in the united states they will treat black americans like shit, in spite of the fact that here, they will owe us everything. they are no better than the rest of the other ethnic minorities who ignorantly dismiss us as do-nothings as though we rode for free off the white man instead of the other way around.

fact is you would have come against your will or as a second caste [or worse] without us idiot.


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We were always coming and going to come.
 
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Interesting article. And very true if you have ever attended one of these institutions. But I chalk it up to a lot Africans simply understanding how to play the game better. A big problem with Americans is that we tend to see things solely in terms of race; other people see social class, ethnicity, and other common factors, and act accordingly.

However, I do think that a lot of those Africans who go back do so only to shit on or exploit their own people.
 
I read up to this part and didn't need to read further because I agree with this part... reason is not only Nigerians but blacks from the west indies are highly educated as well and far more than their American counter parts.

The fact of the matter is the deliberate dumbing down of the education system in the U.S coupled with T.V programming thats detrimental to black Americans along with single parent black households and these teenage girls having babies continuing a generation of incompetence.

Nigerians ain't got shit to do with this study.. they obvious are educated in their native country and travel abroad to attend Ivy league schools. That says something about their education system in itself..

in a nut shell American blacks don't take advantage of the opportunities thats presented before them, Forigen blacks do.. so now the question arises why is there affirmative action...



Data shows that African immigrants, Nigerians in particular, are far wealthier and more highly educated than many Americans of any race

The problem, of course, isn’t that black immigrants are going to Ivy League schools in large numbers; educational success should be applauded no matter where the student is from. But the large numbers of African immigrants on American college campuses, coupled with the remarkably small numbers of native blacks on those same campuses, calls into question the effectiveness of America’s affirmative action programs. While affirmative action started as a system to right the wrongs of slavery and institutional anti-black racism, helping wealthy immigrants who weren’t here for those struggles doesn’t serve any of the program's original intentions.
 
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