Legit licensed massage therapists aren't advertising on IG wearing next to nothing in their ads.
Even if they claim don't do it, they're giving the illusion that they do.
Houston super lawyer Tony Buzbee sues Deshaun Watson
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Even if they claim don't do it, they're giving the illusion that they do.
No licensed massage therapist are going to do it on IG. Everything is advertised on IG. People who do hair, nails, sell clothes...
Why wouldn't you do it on IG?
People advertise their businesses on IG.
I hate these bitches
Plaintiffs suing Deshaun Watson add negligence claims to lawsuits over massages
Brent Schrotenboer
USA TODAY
Two of the women who are suing NFL quarterback Deshaun Watson amended their lawsuits this week to add claims of negligence and gross negligence, arguing that Watson knew of his own sexual proclivities in massage sessions but failed to take precautions to prevent a reoccurrence of them.
Plaintiffs suing Deshaun Watson add negligence claims to lawsuits over massages
Brent Schrotenboer
USA TODAY
Two of the women who are suing NFL quarterback Deshaun Watson amended their lawsuits this week to add claims of negligence and gross negligence, arguing that Watson knew of his own sexual proclivities in massage sessions but failed to take precautions to prevent a reoccurrence of them.
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The curious case of Deshaun Watson and the swanky hotel in Houston
Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson liked to spend time at a certain hotel in Houston, where his conduct has come under scrutiny in lawsuits
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Just finished watching...
Yeah that didn't do what they expected
In fact I think it did the opposite
I don't think those were the 2 women for the spotlight
But imma wait until more people see it.
Hmmmm
Seems bgol ain't even watch real sports?
Seems bgol ain't even watch real sports?
fuck them hoes...all em
One women chased multiple lawyers and was turned down. The second women kept in contact with him after being allegedly assaulted to "protect her brand". Where was the follow up question, as to whether or not they are still practicing and if they have ever performed sexual acts on clients?
Definitely not the best victims to sit with in an interview.
Watson did that shit, at least to some of them. They should have taken a $100K and kept it moving. What on the hell do they think they can win per person, after all the legal fees?
He already lost a year of his career, probably loses this year. Or at least 8 games since Bauer got 2 years for one women in baseball.
That's enough punishment at this point, it ain't like he raped th
Just watched it too. I thought they did a fair job b/c they at least presented both sides & exposed shiesty lawyer Tony Buzbee a little.
Deshaun got done dirty, and they could have investigated the attorney & his relationship to the Texans more, but DeShaun don't seem completely innocent and his creepy trickin' behavior got him caught up. I can't die in that Hill.
What did you think of Watson spokeswoman?
She brought out the point that Buzbee be investigated, which i agree with. But waiting until the last minute to suggest that to real sports is suspect.
She seems chosen for the spot. Saying DeShaun did nothing wrong, yet is having sex with different therapist on the regular would have come out different if it had been a male lawyer. She a good liar... I mean lawyer, but her facade cracked for a second when Soledad asked her the hard question. Solidad saw that and end the interview in disgust.
Shit is real messy. I hope DeShaun guard his reputation better and not live his life tricking, walking around led by his dick in his hand.
Deshaun Watson facing new civil lawsuit over alleged sexual misconduct, bringing total up to 23, per report
Another woman has accused Watson of misconduct during a massage
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Innocent, guilty or just weird.... dude better just get a stable of massage chicks on payroll, have both sides sign off on what he wants and what they'll do, and have both parties tape the massage sessions (severe financial penalties for making them public) for their own protection.
I'm pretty sure that it's a money grab for at least most of the chicks.....but I'm also pretty sure that Deshaun is a weirdo. Shit, ok, be weird, but don't be hiring random chicks to be weird with.
I'm pretty sure that it's a money grab for at least most of the chicks.....but I'm also pretty sure that Deshaun is a weirdo. Shit, ok, be weird, but don't be hiring random chicks to be weird with.
Bomani on CNN right now....
In bizarre radio interview, Deshaun Watson's lawyer voiced a callousness familiar to many women
Hardin saying "making someone uncomfortable is not a crime" is callous, untrue, and also not the discussion at this point.
In bizarre radio interview, Deshaun Watson's lawyer voiced a callousness familiar to many women
Shalise Manza Young
·Yahoo Sports Columnist
Fri, June 3, 2022, 8:40 PM·6 min read
In this article:
- Deshaun Watson
|QB|#4
Deshaun Watson's attorneys appeared on a Houston sports radio station on Friday to discuss the 23 civil lawsuits against the Cleveland Browns quarterback, all of them from women alleging varying levels of sexual impropriety they were subjected to during massage appointments with Watson.
Toward the end of the interview, attorney Rusty Hardin made a blithe comment that was equal parts ignorant and rage-inducing, and potentially of interest to NFL investigators.
"I don't know how many men out there now that have had a massage that perhaps occasionally there was a happy ending. Alright?" Hardin began. "Maybe there's nobody in your listening audience that ever happened to.
"I want to point out: if it has happened, it's not a crime. OK? Unless you are paying somebody extra or so to give you some type of sexual activity, it's not a crime. ... Doing something or saying something or being a way that makes you uncomfortable is not a crime."
Hardin has said there was consensual sexual activity between Watson and some of the women. Based on the fact that 23 women have filed lawsuits, not all of the massage therapists Watson had appointments with consented to what happened during their interactions with him.
Hardin is trying to win his client points in the court of public opinion, but at this point, whether or not what Watson did was criminal doesn't matter. Two grand juries declined to indict him on charges, which means he's free of criminal inquiry but his innocence is still up for scrutiny in civil court.
Hardin saying "making someone uncomfortable is not a crime" is callous, untrue, and also not the discussion at this point. What matters now is whether Watson engaged in behavior that he can be held liable for in civil court. There's a far different standard in civil court than criminal court. The NFL's personal conduct policy also has different standards.
What always matters is consent.
As Deshaun Watson faces civil lawsuits from 23 women, the NFL is investigating if the Browns quarterback violated the league's personal conduct policy. (AP Photo/David Richard)
Thinking you're funny by mentioning a "happy ending" during a radio interview and minimizing, yet again, the women who are making accusations is why rape culture persists.
It is why a culture like the one in the Washington Commanders' front offices festered for years.
It's why, despite Watson facing these numerous allegations, the Cleveland Browns acquired him from the Houston Texans, signed him to the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history, and gave flimsy and wholly unsatisfying answers when pressed on why they did so given Watson's considerable baggage.
It's why women in all walks of life, from all backgrounds, keep their stories of sexual harassment and assault quiet. Select family and friends might know them, but as women we've been shown again and again over decades that work supervisors or human resources officers or the police and the legal system that delivers "justice" for a very narrow population of citizens, will do nothing of consequence.
So mostly we keep them to ourselves.
Hours after the interview, Hardin scrambled to clarify his comments via a statement. It read in part, "On a Houston radio show interview today, I mentioned that a massage that has a 'happy ending' is not illegal, meaning it is not illegal for someone to have consensual sex with a therapist after a massage unless the sex is for pay. Deshaun did not pay anyone for sex. I was using the term hypothetically and not describing Deshaun's case.
"I have reiterated to others it's not ok to do anything that a woman does not agree to do. These women have alleged assault in their pleadings. I was speaking in a hypothetical situation. If there is a consensual sexual encounter after a massage, that is not a crime nor the basis for a civil lawsuit. I was not talking about what Deshaun did or did not do or expected or did not expect."
A yikes interview followed by a yikes statement. Watson may be a creep, but whatever he's paying Hardin in billable hours is too much.
Hardin has now done quite the about-face over the past year. Initially he implied all of the accusers were liars. Now he's saying there was sexual contact between Watson and at least some of the therapists, but it was consensual, even though nearly two dozen lawsuits indicate not all of them were, not in the women's eyes.
His statement and clarification are still smearing the women, implying all of them are sex workers and propagating a trope. What's become clear is that Watson was at minimum hoping for a sexual encounter with many if not all of the women he made appointments with and had little to no interest in therapeutic massage; if he wanted sex workers he surely could find them, and pay for the anonymity and discretion that would have kept him out of the situation he's in now.
Some of the women who have accused Watson of wrongdoing worked with him more than once; some accusers said his behavior escalated with each visit until it became unbearable. These women were by and large running their own micro-business, and having a client like Watson could have been a boon, so they tried to tolerate it until they couldn't anymore.
It's a familiar predicament for a lot of women.
It's understandable that a woman excited about potentially having an NFL quarterback as a regular client would give him a second chance even after an initial meeting left her feeling distressed. Maybe she'd misinterpreted his actions the first time and he'd be better the second time. Or maybe she could internalize a little bit of discomfort if it meant she got a deep-pocketed client with numerous teammates who might also need a massage therapist.
Deshaun Watson clearly doesn't care how he made some of those women feel. Rusty Hardin clearly doesn't care how Watson made some of those women feel. The Cleveland Browns clearly don't care.
Trying to wave off incidents like the ones Watson has been accused of are why they continue to happen. Ignoring the concept of consent and a person's right to say yes or no is why they continue to happen.
It's why women still are so often afraid of what else will happen to them if they speak their truth. People like Dan Snyder will be protected, lawyers like Rusty Hardin will smear accusers, quarterbacks like Deshaun Watson will get guaranteed contracts.
It's long past time for it to stop.
Report: Deshaun Watson met with at least 66 women for massages in 17 months; Texans may have 'enabled' behavior
Charles Robinson
·NFL columnist
Tue, June 7, 2022, 6:19 PM·5 min read
In this article:
HOUSTON — Former Houston Texans and current Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson met with at least 66 women for massages during a span of 17 months from late 2019 to early 2021, a detailed report from The New York Times on Tuesday alleges. The Times also reports that Texans team security provided a nondisclosure agreement to Watson that he later employed during massages, as well as a hotel room where at least seven women met the star quarterback for sessions.
The report follows two additional civil lawsuits being filed against Watson in the past seven days, raising his number of outstanding lawsuits to 24. All of those suits are alleging either sexual misconduct or sexual assault. The most recent litigation from the past seven days raised a handful of new allegations, including that Watson once entered into a settlement negotiation that would have paid 22 accusers $100,000 each to settle out of court, and that he solicited “more than a hundred” massages with “strangers” through social media.
Tuesday’s report from the Times draws more detail to how Watson was allegedly interacting with some of the women who provided massages, including claims that he “begged” for oral sex and repeatedly sexualized massage sessions with a wide swath of women who met with him. The content of the report appears to shed light on the most recent lawsuit filed by Houston attorney Tony Buzbee, who represents the 24 women currently suing Watson.
In the 24th suit filed Monday, Buzbee details a narrative in which Watson allegedly displayed a pattern of interacting with women under the guise of massage therapy before shifting his sessions toward sexual encounters. The Times' report details some of those alleged experiences through interviews with women who are either suing Watson or claim to have encountered him through massage solicitations.
Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin, didn’t immediately respond for comment Tuesday.
A New York Times report alleges that Deshaun Watson met with at least 66 women for massages during a span of 17 months, and that Texans team security provided an NDA to Watson that he later employed during massages, as well as a hotel room for some sessions. (AP Photo/Ron Schwane)
Texans now in deeper water with Deshaun Watson investigation
The report also draws the Texans deeper into the Watson investigation with allegations that director of team security Brent Naccara provided Watson with an NDA to use during the period in which Watson is accused of having sexualized massage sessions.
That NDA was allegedly provided after one of Watson’s accusers, Nia Smith, published a photo on Instagram showing Watson’s phone number and some CashApp receipts. Along with the photo, she added a message stating: “I could really expose you” along with an expletive. The Times reports that Watson began employing the NDA he was given by the Texans the same week.
The report further details a room that the Texans allegedly provided Watson at the The Houstonian Club & Spa during a period in which Watson was soliciting massages. The Times' report says at least seven women met Watson at that hotel. Watson said in a deposition that he was unaware of whether or not the Texans knew about the massages he was getting.
Reached for comment by Yahoo Sports, the Texans denied knowledge of allegations against Watson before March of 2021.
“As we’ve previously stated, our organization was first made aware of the allegations involving Deshaun Watson through a social media post in March 2021,” Texans director of communications Omar Majzoub said in a statement. “Since then, understanding the serious nature of the allegations, we have cooperated with every investigation regarding this matter and we will continue to do so moving forward.”
Reported portions of Watson's deposition also published
The Times' piece also reportedly contains portions of Watson’s depositions taken in his swath of civil lawsuits. In one published exchange, Watson is asked if he asked about the experience, skill level or training of one woman he had contacted. Watson alleged “that wasn’t a priority” and that he “just wanted a massage.”
In another alleged deposition exchange, Watson was asked about reaching out to a flight attendant on Instagram who began taking massage therapy lessons during the pandemic.
The deposition excerpt, according to the Times:
Buzbee: Can you explain why you — you reached out to her on Instagram rather than just using a therapist you had used before?
Watson: Because I needed a massage therapy.
Buzbee: Okay. You could have just used somebody you used before, right?
Watson: Yeah. I could have.
Buzbee: You could — yeah. You didn’t — but you didn’t, did you?
Watson: I did not.
Buzbee: You could have used the Texans, right?
Watson: Definitely possible.
Buzbee: But you didn’t, did you?
Watson: I did not.
Prior to the most recent lawsuits and Tuesday’s report, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell had stated that the league’s investigation into Watson was wrapping up. However, the league has never given a definitive timeline for a judgement on whether Watson violated the NFL’s personal conduct policy. Instead, the league has characterized the investigation as “ongoing” as other lawsuits or reports have developed.
Given that context, the most recent suits and the Times' report will likely be absorbed by NFL investigators before any final decision is reached on a potential Watson suspension.
Charles Robinson
·NFL columnist
Tue, June 7, 2022, 6:19 PM·5 min read
In this article:
- Houston Texans
NFL|3rd AFC South|4-13-0
- Deshaun Watson
|QB|#4
HOUSTON — Former Houston Texans and current Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson met with at least 66 women for massages during a span of 17 months from late 2019 to early 2021, a detailed report from The New York Times on Tuesday alleges. The Times also reports that Texans team security provided a nondisclosure agreement to Watson that he later employed during massages, as well as a hotel room where at least seven women met the star quarterback for sessions.
The report follows two additional civil lawsuits being filed against Watson in the past seven days, raising his number of outstanding lawsuits to 24. All of those suits are alleging either sexual misconduct or sexual assault. The most recent litigation from the past seven days raised a handful of new allegations, including that Watson once entered into a settlement negotiation that would have paid 22 accusers $100,000 each to settle out of court, and that he solicited “more than a hundred” massages with “strangers” through social media.
Tuesday’s report from the Times draws more detail to how Watson was allegedly interacting with some of the women who provided massages, including claims that he “begged” for oral sex and repeatedly sexualized massage sessions with a wide swath of women who met with him. The content of the report appears to shed light on the most recent lawsuit filed by Houston attorney Tony Buzbee, who represents the 24 women currently suing Watson.
In the 24th suit filed Monday, Buzbee details a narrative in which Watson allegedly displayed a pattern of interacting with women under the guise of massage therapy before shifting his sessions toward sexual encounters. The Times' report details some of those alleged experiences through interviews with women who are either suing Watson or claim to have encountered him through massage solicitations.
Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin, didn’t immediately respond for comment Tuesday.
A New York Times report alleges that Deshaun Watson met with at least 66 women for massages during a span of 17 months, and that Texans team security provided an NDA to Watson that he later employed during massages, as well as a hotel room for some sessions. (AP Photo/Ron Schwane)
Texans now in deeper water with Deshaun Watson investigation
The report also draws the Texans deeper into the Watson investigation with allegations that director of team security Brent Naccara provided Watson with an NDA to use during the period in which Watson is accused of having sexualized massage sessions.
That NDA was allegedly provided after one of Watson’s accusers, Nia Smith, published a photo on Instagram showing Watson’s phone number and some CashApp receipts. Along with the photo, she added a message stating: “I could really expose you” along with an expletive. The Times reports that Watson began employing the NDA he was given by the Texans the same week.
The report further details a room that the Texans allegedly provided Watson at the The Houstonian Club & Spa during a period in which Watson was soliciting massages. The Times' report says at least seven women met Watson at that hotel. Watson said in a deposition that he was unaware of whether or not the Texans knew about the massages he was getting.
Reached for comment by Yahoo Sports, the Texans denied knowledge of allegations against Watson before March of 2021.
“As we’ve previously stated, our organization was first made aware of the allegations involving Deshaun Watson through a social media post in March 2021,” Texans director of communications Omar Majzoub said in a statement. “Since then, understanding the serious nature of the allegations, we have cooperated with every investigation regarding this matter and we will continue to do so moving forward.”
Reported portions of Watson's deposition also published
The Times' piece also reportedly contains portions of Watson’s depositions taken in his swath of civil lawsuits. In one published exchange, Watson is asked if he asked about the experience, skill level or training of one woman he had contacted. Watson alleged “that wasn’t a priority” and that he “just wanted a massage.”
In another alleged deposition exchange, Watson was asked about reaching out to a flight attendant on Instagram who began taking massage therapy lessons during the pandemic.
The deposition excerpt, according to the Times:
Buzbee: Can you explain why you — you reached out to her on Instagram rather than just using a therapist you had used before?
Watson: Because I needed a massage therapy.
Buzbee: Okay. You could have just used somebody you used before, right?
Watson: Yeah. I could have.
Buzbee: You could — yeah. You didn’t — but you didn’t, did you?
Watson: I did not.
Buzbee: You could have used the Texans, right?
Watson: Definitely possible.
Buzbee: But you didn’t, did you?
Watson: I did not.
Prior to the most recent lawsuits and Tuesday’s report, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell had stated that the league’s investigation into Watson was wrapping up. However, the league has never given a definitive timeline for a judgement on whether Watson violated the NFL’s personal conduct policy. Instead, the league has characterized the investigation as “ongoing” as other lawsuits or reports have developed.
Given that context, the most recent suits and the Times' report will likely be absorbed by NFL investigators before any final decision is reached on a potential Watson suspension.
The dude just likes sex, what’s the problem. IG is full with these bitches advertising sex through massages. He’s stupid for being a high profile athlete and doing that. I would chalk it up to being young and dumb.
The nfl will try to look good bc women have yappin about this suspension for months on the radio. It will be at least a 1 year suspension. Maybe 2
GOTDAMN!!!!!
This dude is Watson's lawyer?!!!!!! Damn......
Watson is about to be suspended until 2030!
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